NEW isn't always BETTER - 2025 Porsche 911 refresh 

Exactly😭

Not with the sport design (like the gts). But without it, I still don’t like it, although still better than this

but the whole idea of a new generation is to change the way it looks, so they had to do just that

@@josephius It's not a new generation tho.

@geminithekid not sure the relevance of your comment, manufacturers don’t make new models because there is something wrong with the old ones

And cheap plastic start button, not even aluminium... Same my old bmw has... in 2013...

I think they are intentionally making the car undesirable in a few aspects so people will think the later models are better. Maybe the turbo model will have a nicer interior so people aren’t even meant to buy this car, it exists to sell more 99 911 turbos.

Whooooooo cares

It’s more useful 🤷‍♂️

Reverse hatfishing

A little bit bald

thank you

Didn't notice, until I read your comment down here.

Lmao

Exactly

It's actually quite narrow. Once you're behind the wheel you literally can only see the middle portion of the screen

I prefer practicality. I want to a huge map on there, not a gauge cluster. Nobody is racing all the time to put a tachometer there permanently.

@@samon_kurowassan A shame they don't option it so people can choose. I like the classic analogue, but see your point

​@@samon_kurowassani almost never use GPS, but if i do....my phone is good enough, i dont need a screen in my car. I am 29 and my car is 27, low tech and that is how i like it

Sales will tell if it's a flop or not. But im following some real buyers and their opinion is favorable right now.

A 911 flop ? Can’t happen. The only one that wasn’t well received was the 996 gen and it wasn’t a flop.

it's called inflation.

Not really sure that's how it works 🤣

Boomers with money dgaf. As long as it's decent looking (which the '25 911 is) they will more than likely always opt for the brand new 911 over the used, contrary to an enthusiast like you or me. And who cares, it's their money.

You don't think the 3.6L engine is an upgrade?

It's insane

If it ain’t broke…

It’s crazy … every time with every new cars, always the same comment. And then a few months later after seeing the car in real life, the opinion will change There is only 2 downgrade things. The start button and no analog rev counter anymore. Everything else is better. (Better front and rear bumper) (I put that in () because it’s subjective), new headlight design and technology with independant LED (one of the best headlight technology on the market today), better chassis and suspension tuning, BIGGER ENGINE (that’s what everyone want when all brands are doing downsizing) + monoturbo instead of biturbo so a better sound because less muffled. crazy race car derived hybrid system which weigh only 50kg which is better than everyone else and don’t interfere with the driving experience, it’s even add sensation because it’s like a F1 KERS system and not a plug-in hybrid for emissions, New e-turbo technology with new innovation that even F1 don’t have at the moment, no turbolag anymore, performance increased by a lot ( less than 3s 0-62 and 9 seconds quicker around the nurb, it’s faster than an M4 CSL which is a 992 GT3 rival normally) And even with all that evidence, you are capable of saying you don’t’ understand how the car can be more expensive, it’s pretty crazy honestly

@@CLSTRN911 Another downgrade besides the design is the apparent lack of a manual transmission (which will hopefully come with the Carrera S and T models)

Which lights switch button are you talking about bro??

Cost cutting on a car this expensive is crazy especially with how small the things they cut were 💀

@@BlasterJunos you could be right no doubts. Do you agree that at least the changes look cheaper? :)

@@BlasterJunos porsche does a lot of cost cutting with plastic for example

@srfrover But last gen you could at least pay to option leather or other trim instead of plastic and it still kept the same design. Full screen dash and push to start button especially with no other options is crazy and makes the car look cheaper unlike what the price suggests. 992.1 is still my favorite interior since it blends digital and analogue almost perfectly

@@BlasterJunos992.1 has the most boring looking interior of all time

Damn those muscular robots

Facts

It feels more dumber and more agressive, the old one was elegant and intelligent while at the same time having a sort of hidden force.

Bullsh..t "opinion" dude! Keep it for yourself.

To each their own. I think the 992.1 was the worst designed 911 in a while (still looks decent). The 992.1 std had a huge rectangle that always looked awkward. It wasn't until the 992 turbo and gt3 that the front end looked correct. The 992.1 gts sport design bumper was ripped straight off the 991.1 carrera. I love the 992.2 look front and back. The new wheel designs are amazing. They should bring back the analog tach however.

Well they are a business

@@dauntless137 yes, however, porsche`s business is passion: in that sense, the 992.2 is not a good move.

@@donkeyshot8472 It sounds like I am the only person that thinks that the 2025 911 GTS is better than 991.1 version. This is such awesome news for me!

You don’t know what your talking about

@@anthonywunderlich3681 yep, yours for a song, then. ;-)

the 992.2 is the first step to the all-electric 911: just my two cents here.

Unfortunately for only one round and the thenbattery is empty, ridiculous

its honnestly cheaper to make then to handcraft it, and then if it breaks $$$

when it breaks**

@@michelhickey5765 indeed, it’s cheaper, but we are talking about a 911 here. I am petty sure that buyers wouldn’t bother paying few extra bucks on top of the 150.000 they already spent.

Like saying an iphone is worse than a nokia, it's purely subjective.

Which of the two brands can you afford their cars?

Awful take bro

Idk bruh. Without turbo lag I would have crashed a couple weeks ago. I gassed it and right before it spooled completely the car in front of me changed lanes. If I had an EV I would of crashed. Just another angle of seeing things.

lol. What car has the tach actually connected to the engine? Rather than a simulated movement, Whatever that means.

Well, get a manual and no turbo leg *Guess what, now manual with the new one 🤔

@@G82Watts an ev could have detected the the crash and stopped automatically. And you could have been going any speed and a car still pulls out on you causing a crash. There would also be more moments where you need to avoid a crash and the lag wouldn’t put down the power in time.

@@JayCrash450 I think I was thinking of speedos that are connected directly from the engine to the the dash. In any case if your running info through a computer to move a needle that’s a simulation. It’s not a direct electronic or mechanical connection that moves a dial. If you want something analog, there’s plenty of old cars to do that.

Bro whats with u weirdos. Talk about the car

Voting warranty

Carrera T is a pointless stupid car. The gearbox is lacking, it’s just a base carrera with manual as an option. Should not be 10k more

@@SparklingWalrus and it has the LSD too. But it’s more of a Porsche gimmick to unlock premium options for the base 911

@@SparklingWalrus In fact, the T is the hotspot of the 911 series. It is not a basic Carrera, but has a mechanical limited slip differential on the rear axle, for example.

@@1q2w3e4r5t6zism it’s still a pointless car. Just include that in the base carrera configuration and boom problem solved. No need to make the same fucking car and make it 10k more. Fuck the T, and fuck Porsche’s sales tactics. A limited slip differential should be standard lmfao or at no extra cost

same for me

Me as well, at some point I saw someone say it looks like Mercedes set a trend with those vents after the new cullinan and 911 were revealed to have them

I'm trying to understand why someone would want a digital tachometer. It is like buying a smartwatch, just to know the time.

100%.

Car enthusiasts don't like change. There i said it.

Yeah but there's a reason high end cars still have analog gauges, they just feel cooler and more premium.

@@DodgerFloof Even rolls Royce is slowly getting rid of them

@@DodgerFloof and u know what else has analog gages a base chevy trax, so no it doesnt feel more premium to me

@@Carfan678 okay and it also has a steering wheel lmao, doesn't mean steering wheels can't feel more premium in different cars... btw a Hyundai Elantra also has a digital dash, it looks cheap because it is cheap. it's an excuse for automakers to spend less money actually designing gauges. Also no, rolls Royce is not getting rid of their analog gauges anytime soon for the same reason they're not getting rid of the analog clock...