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New Liara Art Teases Her Redacted Role: An Analysis of Liara T'Soni 

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Liara's outfit from the teaser trailer for the next Mass Effect might reveal the new role that Director Gamble hinted at for her on Twitter. Doctor, Shadow Broker, and [REDACTED]. I analyze Liara's journey so far to discover what Gamble and the Mass Effect team might have in store for her next.
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📖 Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:12 Sullivan's Art
01:00 Symbolism of Outfits
02:12 Liara's Redacted Role
02:35 Liara's Journey
04:27 Liara's Design
05:00 Liara's Voice
07:33 More Mature Arc
08:28 Liara's Age
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@N7.Tenebris
@N7.Tenebris 7 месяцев назад
I'm all for a darker, more mature Liara. Maybe she'll use her Krogan side more too - make Aethyta proud (who I hope is still alive and has more of a role to play, which would be really cool tbh). I love your theories. :)
@mimusmortuis1633
@mimusmortuis1633 7 месяцев назад
If this is true and in the game Liara says something like, "Shepard wouldn't like what I've turned into," I'm just going to fucking die. It would tear my heart out.
@jooke12
@jooke12 4 месяца назад
​@@mimusmortuis1633 I know how you feel. And perhaps that is why that will become a potential story arch for her among others if we receive a branching ME5. But I doubt she'll turn evil - but doubtful or conflicted as a consequence of her actions? Absolutely... "She'll raise a hell of a storm with those little wings."
@Civil_Protection_Unit_DK-2496
@Civil_Protection_Unit_DK-2496 7 месяцев назад
I can always rely on you to provide me my copium that this game wont kill all my beloved characters in some massive time jump...i just want to play as shep again haha
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Very happy to be the copium supplier hahah 😁
@MrHorsepro
@MrHorsepro 7 месяцев назад
The extensive effort you put into preparing content and your dedication to my favorite game series is precisely why I love and support this channel. And I will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Please keep up the great work young lady.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate it so much, thanks!
@lumina1104
@lumina1104 7 месяцев назад
Might it be that she is wearing a hood because it is cold AF? I went to uni with Ali Hillis at ECU. It's cool to see her still having a part in the next game.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Maybe the hood is just a hood..........but I love reading into literally everything. 😁 YO that's so cool you went to school with Ali Hillis!! So freakin' awesome!
@spaceghostohio7989
@spaceghostohio7989 7 месяцев назад
Enjoy your vacation...don't be gone too long..you writers need to get back at it so we can wrap this up before I'm gone..
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
🥲
@Jswin-fi2pn
@Jswin-fi2pn 7 месяцев назад
What fun, decorations all up ☃️ sitting with my cocoa and watching this 😊 you can't beat a Paragon7 theory. Liara has had to mature quickly from her quiet dig days, so much has happened since she first met Shep. I think she is quite amazing with what she has been through and the challenging roles she has taken on. Clothing is practical but also symbolic! I do hope you are right and it is only a short time after ME3 ending so we can continue the story with Shepard and team. It would be nice to have Liaras other mother involved too, she was a good character and it would be sweet if they had a nice relationship. It was so funny listening to their interactions. I like to think Liara won't be bad though, just doing what needs to be done for a good reason, as her mother, Benezia, tried to do. I hope you have a lovely vacation Paragon7, thanks for all your well thought out and presented videos. Looking forward to seeing what you have for us in 2024.
@bernienoma
@bernienoma 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your videos and passion for this amazing series. I'm in the middle of my own M.E. project which I'm hoping to start releasing sometime next year, and it's because you inspired me and made me fall in love with Mass Effect all over again after 14 years of playing it. Have a wonderful holiday! Can't wait for you to come back. Cherry Mistmas!!!
@romanaghost
@romanaghost 7 месяцев назад
It's fascinating listening to you taking these little clues and creating a cogent, plausible theory. This makes complete sense. You would have made a fine Asari scientist! Again, I love your mind! 🧠 Happy holidays!
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
This is one of the best comments I've gotten, thank you! :)
@romanaghost
@romanaghost 7 месяцев назад
@@paragonseven I am happy to oblige 🙂
@gamingdude96
@gamingdude96 7 месяцев назад
Great theory as always! However, I feel like the role of Liara means she has become a Spectre. Two reasons why: 1) Spectres in general work undercover, not revealing their spectre status unless absolutely necessary. This is why her new role could be "redacted" 2) "How did we miss this? The council will be furious..." from the relay teaser could mean the Council has sent her as a Spectre to investigate shady actvity, or even the "anomalies across space", hence her being surprised as to how they could have missed a potential lead/clue. Great video as always, happy holidays 😊
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Spectre'd be fun, but when I tried thinking it through, it doesn't make sense to me. The asari Matriarchs don't trust Liara in ME3, enough to want to order a hit on her because of her information broker fame, and I believe (IIRC) that the asari Councilor is a Matriarch. Because of this, I don't think she'll trust Liara enough to give her a Spectre status. Also, as the Shadow Broker, she has a lot to micromanage in an administrative role. As a Spectre, she'd have to go undercover on multiple occasions, which I personally don't see as practical while also being in a powerful position as the Shadow Broker.
@gamingdude96
@gamingdude96 7 месяцев назад
@@paragonseven You're also very right, I just don't know what to think at this point anymore 😅 The next game really can go a multitude of ways in terms of plot it's crazy
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
@@gamingdude96 The huge range of directions it could go is one of the reasons I'm SO freakin' excited for it. 😤
@Truman5555
@Truman5555 7 месяцев назад
One think I also noticed in the new design is the gold on the inside of her hood. It looked reptilian and reminded me of a Krogan neck. And she also happens to be 1/4 Krogan.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
That's be awesome nod to her 1/4 krogan lineage. Now she has to head butt someone. 😁
@Suralin0
@Suralin0 7 месяцев назад
The gold/yellow also reminds me of her mother's favorite color, pre-indoctrination. Maybe she still holds some fondness for that.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
@@Suralin0 Such a great point, I loved hearing that story from Liara in the Presidium.
@brandonrudicell4064
@brandonrudicell4064 7 месяцев назад
I think she is going to be a type of cerberius, what she thinks needs to be done, even against the council, etc. Makes sense with the intercepted message and what she says in it.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Dark arc Liara is best Liara 😇
@Chunthoor
@Chunthoor 7 месяцев назад
I wish you happy holidays and look forward to new theories in the new year! Best wishes from Germany.
@exemplar7205
@exemplar7205 7 месяцев назад
i swear if we have our little blue babies or the chance to depending on if Shepard could be in the next game, ill die happy. Incredible work btw, you've put a lot of work and passion into this and it makes a lot of sense for this to be true :)
@Veyron722skyhook
@Veyron722skyhook 7 месяцев назад
Same. That's all I want from this new game. Beyond that, doesn't matter to me as long as it gives Shepard and romanced Liara a proper happy ending that we should've gotten 11 years ago.
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo 7 месяцев назад
@@Veyron722skyhook and all the other romance as well
@Veyron722skyhook
@Veyron722skyhook 7 месяцев назад
@@CommanderShepard-wq3woYep. Fully agree on that.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Thinking about the possibility of little blue babies makes me giddy every single time. 💙
@Veyron722skyhook
@Veyron722skyhook 7 месяцев назад
@@paragonseven Glad I'm not the only one. :) Hell, being denied that 11 years ago gave me depression for 8 years until mods for ME3 helped me come of it fully. (part of a condition I have is that I have higher empathy than many other people, so fictitious stuff like this can unfortunately hurt as well if I grow to care)
@LightShadowOnyx
@LightShadowOnyx 7 месяцев назад
I think liara will a lot like leliana in DAI and she will become more like the shadow broker where she will not be afraid to send out agents to take care of business
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Can't wait to play DAI to understand this comparison. 👀
@jooke12
@jooke12 4 месяца назад
And Origin, if you haven't already. It's important to understand this comment completely. The short version is this: The character are highly idealistic and naive in the first game. In Inquisition she has grown to become a spymaster and is far more hardened and cynical about things. Through your choices you can either cement her new outlook on things, or you can convince her to become more like her previous self. This character arc are very similar to Liaras and what she goes through, and I remembered that I hoped back in Inquisition that the next ME game would present such an opportunity for Liara. There are potential for her to channel a...darker mask. Especially if you don't romance her or help her towards her Shadow Broker position initially. Reminding her about Shepard's words "Don't turn into the thing you are hunting." - because there are definitely some ounces of probability in that narrative, I would say; Liara is very pragmatic in how she does things, but being both as intellectual and empathetic as she is means that the sacrifices she will be required to make in her new role as the Shadow Broker will draw heavy on her - much like Leliana and her own spy ring. Lelianas decisions affects a nation... Liaras...a galaxy. I am sure "human defiance" is an "endearing" trait she has adopted herself - I'd argue she did so through 1-3, and something she'll feel the weight of in the next game. But Dragon Age Origin & Inquisition -- Highly recommended! And keep up with your well thought out videos. They are speculation sure, but you are definitely the one who puts most time to puzzle things together and synthesize from both literal and metaphorical sources. It's fantastic to have somebody who give voice to many of our own speculative thoughts, although in such a passionate and eloquent manner.
@short72hp1
@short72hp1 7 месяцев назад
Enjoy your vacation 🎉🎉
@Josh_Hammond
@Josh_Hammond 7 месяцев назад
Also the gloves on liara look like Andromeda designs though could be common in mass effect universe. I also assume there's not gonna be a huge time jump maybe 2 or 5 years or so not 600 years.
@xenowriter82
@xenowriter82 7 месяцев назад
Maybe the hood is to cover her face to not be detected. Could be in the beginning of the game, there is a reason why she has to remain hidden.
@grayghost-xk6xv
@grayghost-xk6xv 7 месяцев назад
I personally think that we are a kidnapped shepherd at the end of ME3 No matter who you romance, she has a gift for you. And she mind the melts with you.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
I don't understand this take, and I've seen it from quite a few fans too. With a small time jump, there's no need to make a Liara romance canon to play as Shepard's kid (and this is coming from a Liaramancer). I've said it before, there's plenty of ways to bring Shep back, so that's what I think they're planning to do. No need to involve their kid. I think plenty of fans would prefer to play as Shepard over their kid anyway (based on a previous poll on the channel).
@grayghost-xk6xv
@grayghost-xk6xv 7 месяцев назад
When she did her thing with shepherd, maybe she knocked out her or him. Took them away from Earth so that way they could rebuild after the crucible was fired. Before the final battle, everything else after that point was a dream in shepherd's mind. Shepherd United the whole Galaxy. They are counting on him or her to do it again after after the crucible fired. So not shepherd's son or daughter, but shepherd themselves.
@MidratsSnack
@MidratsSnack 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant analysis! I hope someone saw this at bioware (I hope they do!)
@hollerncraft
@hollerncraft 7 месяцев назад
That hood could also be related to that Cerberus color scheme we see on all the new tech. Could be a part of the uniform for whatever agency that is now, that she might be a part of, if not leading herself.
@Hannah-fm3jo
@Hannah-fm3jo 7 месяцев назад
so what i’m hearing is that this means shepard n liaras hoard of little blue children is incoming 👀 but also, it never made sense to me that the time jump could be 600 years plus in the future, like the amount they would have to gloss over to get there. so to have a small time jump would make more sense to me. we get to experience how the galaxy is coping/ dealing with the aftermath of the reaper war and now there’s these new issues coming for them. so now they have to figure out what they need to do (and who to bring back to help 👀 because who else is gonna save the the galaxy from high level threats)
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
It better mean that the little blue children are incoming otherwise I'd have multiple mental breakdowns. 🥲
@cygnus1129
@cygnus1129 7 месяцев назад
The bit about children is a good point id like to Segway into something else with. *There's gonna be 17 year old's playing Mass Effect 5 in 2029; kids born in 2012 during the end era of last of the original trilogy will be playing Mass Effect for the first time* 😳🫣🥲🥹
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 6 месяцев назад
@@cygnus1129 Whelp if I didn't feel old before, I sure do now! 🥲
@ChaviChoffChop
@ChaviChoffChop 7 месяцев назад
Interesting theory and it could be true. However, knowing how chaotic game development process is on the inside, i always tend to be more careful about assuming that the creators planned things forward so much. I have my doubts that Matron would be that Redacted word. Seems weird to include it in a description. Too personal. But if they actually remember about asari stages, that would be cool. Agreed that Liara may has already been a Matron in ME3.
@cygnus1129
@cygnus1129 7 месяцев назад
I'm glad to see people talking about Mass Effect again. As far as I know im the only person wearing an N7 hoodie where I live. It's kinda _lonely_ sometimes. I get compliments for it but they dont know what Mass Effect is. I hope that changes! I need some kind of escapism that is completely devoid of reality. Mass Effect is one of the few things in my life that brought me that.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 6 месяцев назад
Can always chat Mass Effect in this space! :) Nothing beats the comfiness of the N7 hoodie.
@lexomoniyi
@lexomoniyi 7 месяцев назад
New subscriber, amazing content analysis. Also, I want your theory regarding the Rogue AI to be true so badly! (Also joined your Patreon. Excited for 2024 content 🙏🏾)
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Welcome, and thank you for becoming a Patreon, truly appreciate a lot! 😁 It'd be very fun to have the rogue AI thing be legit. Only time will tell. :)
@Dyslexicminipainter
@Dyslexicminipainter 7 месяцев назад
Happy holidays 🎊 🎉
@hopspusher3052
@hopspusher3052 7 месяцев назад
I have been thinking that based on what has been released so far, that there will be a new trilogy released. The first one will be only a few years after ME3, the second will jump ahead, and the 3rd will also jump ahead. I don't necessarily think Shepard will be the main protagonist, but he will be an integral part of the story at the beginning. Question...how do you incorporate Shepard without just bringing him/her back (as that has already been done). There has to be a reason to search for relics beyond nostalgia
@HarleyHerbert
@HarleyHerbert 5 месяцев назад
She could also have become more influenced by her parents now that she's had time to think about things without the war going on. She did say she'll remember her mother as the woman she was, has had discussions with her other parent about what her mother, and she was raised solely by her, so it'd make sense that she'd take on some of the positive traits of her mother to honour her memory. And with her having learned about her "father" we might see more of her in Liara too. She started off as a young scientist who hides away in ancient ruins, but now she's grown and understands herself better, and has been able to figure out who she wants to be and how she'll live her life, taking what lessons she can from the lives of her parents. She's like a person in the mid 20s or so establishing themselves in life having finally figured out what they're gonna do with their life
@mattstansbeary3068
@mattstansbeary3068 7 месяцев назад
Thank you
@darkstar772006
@darkstar772006 7 месяцев назад
Solid!
@LightSoundGate
@LightSoundGate 7 месяцев назад
Without a doubt Liara is the most dangerous mothermelter around.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
I prefer the term motherflayer but to each their own :p
@japkap
@japkap 7 месяцев назад
Think she is a matriarch of the Asari, and she is the newest Counsel member for the Asari.
@mamboonthetube7652
@mamboonthetube7652 7 месяцев назад
This is a good shout. There is a codex entry or some lore tidbit somewhere in ME1 I swear it says maiden Asari tend to wear white/lighter clothes and move to black/darker clothes as they mature to matriarchs but oh my god i can't find where it is I swear i'm not crazy. Personally, I would take it to mean we're 600 years later and she's a matriarch, as the original trilogy put a lot more emphasis on the matriarch stage than any other and it would just feel weird to me for Gamble to be like coy about Liara being a matron with the [redacted] bit whereas matriarch is a role that comes built in with its own sense of respect or even power and makes sense to list alongside doctor and shadow broker, but I can see either interpretation.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
I'll double check, but I don't remember seeing a colour thing in the codex on asari. I see your point about the emphasis on Matriarchs. I'd be fun to see Liara as one, but I guess I love her character arc so much I wouldn't want to skip any part of it.
@mamboonthetube7652
@mamboonthetube7652 7 месяцев назад
@@paragonseven I double checked the codex entries on the wiki and couldn’t find it either but I swear there’s some lore tidbit somewhere that says it, maybe even something Liara has hidden away in her ME1 dialogue. The only reason it’s even in my head as a fact I remember is because I heard offhand it in a RU-vidr’s first time playthrough I put on recently and it stood out to me as a “huh I don’t remember anything about clothes but whatever cool I guess” but now I’m second guessing myself that it’s a thing
@RoySR3-ln6ve
@RoySR3-ln6ve 7 месяцев назад
Have you already noticed that in the teaser poster with the Cerberus-colored portal, there are two invisible ships at the bottom left in addition to the one visible approaching the portal? They appear during the first few seconds, noticeable by the faint lights of the 4 engines. They are practically invisible but they are there if you look carefully. They appear in the second 0.3, at the bottom left just beyond the description writing, they also head towards the portal. Don't find it strange if the English is a bit clumsy, the comment was written with Google Translator, I hope it's understandable XD congratulations for the channel anyway, it's a nice channel.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Wow OK, I've made a note on this, appreciate you sharing it! I'll cover this in my updated relay analysis if I manage to find it. No worries about the English, I understood everything. 👍
@RoySR3-ln6ve
@RoySR3-ln6ve 7 месяцев назад
@@paragonseven ✌🙂 Thank you. As a fan of the saga I am pleased to share the theories on the new chapter with other mass effect fans. It's the beautiful part of this wait.
@romanaghost
@romanaghost 7 месяцев назад
Thanks
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate this, thank you so much!
@darkbeach72
@darkbeach72 7 месяцев назад
In Andromeda she sounds like an AI/VI. It sounds assembled, not quite as obvious, but reminiscent of the South Park episode where they cobbled together a voice performance for Chef after Isaac Hayes left the show. Now...why would it have been performed by Allie to sound like a composite rather than a contiguous recording? Anyone's guess.
@Veyron722skyhook
@Veyron722skyhook 7 месяцев назад
Technically for Asari the Matron stage can also happen mentally, not just biologically. And its often been thought Liara was already a matron mentally by the time of ME3 as in the case of a romance with Shepard, she felt ready to start a family and have kids after the war ended. So for her to be a Matron only 4 years after 3 makes sense.
@PuppetierMaster
@PuppetierMaster 7 месяцев назад
Yo that's my girl, even though I cheated on her with Garrus, then Taynor, then smashed my fist on the desk and said never again. Otherwise despite some wrinkles - Yo that's my girl right there.
@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968
@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968 7 месяцев назад
Why would Matron be redacted though? That's my main question.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
For sure it seems strange, but then again, we're getting very little information from the ME team anyway, so it could just be to increase speculation by the fanbase in general.
@cagednephilim3967
@cagednephilim3967 7 месяцев назад
I like the idea of everything Liara going through throughout the trilogy maturing her faster. Unfortunately, in Andromeda I just found her voice to be robotic and choppy. Don't know where the voice director was going with that.
@short72hp1
@short72hp1 7 месяцев назад
😮
@gamesadergaming1321
@gamesadergaming1321 7 месяцев назад
I just watched the end of ME3 because I had another crazy idea. When the Normandy is in mid-flight through the Mass Relay and the Crucible energy is closing in on them did you notice how the Crucible energy turns into a - or what appears to be a black hole and the Normandy's engine exhaust is being sucked into it, what if that actually slowed time down for them while 600years passed on the other side. I'll need to read the lore entries in ME again about the Mass relays and the Crucible to confirm this theory. I thought I'd run it by you Paragon7 get your thoughts on this theory.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
I've seen this theory mentioned before, and it is plausible, but I personally think the Crucible energy was intended to look menacing enough to be able to destroy the Normandy and also visually impressive. The ME team could easily retcon that moment as being a time altering thing though, and I'd accept it, but I don't think that was their original intent.
@gamesadergaming1321
@gamesadergaming1321 7 месяцев назад
I've done some more thinking about this theory, how would Liara still be the Shadow Broker, 600yrs, someone else would have taken over for sure. However, it does play into Liara picking the piece of N7 helmet up from the snow and smiling, possibly reminiscing about old times.@@paragonseven
@derrickcarter443
@derrickcarter443 7 месяцев назад
I got a theory for you what liara find sherpard but to stop the new treat we would two sherpard male and female sherpard work together kinda like brother and sister ryder just a thought so what do you think
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 6 месяцев назад
Considered it, but it'd be too complicated. If anything I think there might be a brief Bro and FemShep meeting but nothing universe-breaking like them both working together (even though I'd love it if it actually happened).
@vickonstark7365
@vickonstark7365 7 месяцев назад
👍🏼
@dungmaestr0912
@dungmaestr0912 6 месяцев назад
@Paragon7 where are youuuu? We need new content lol
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 6 месяцев назад
Helloo I'm finally feeling better so expect new content by next week! :)
@dungmaestr0912
@dungmaestr0912 6 месяцев назад
@paragon7ME I'm sorry you have been sick 😞 I'm glad you are feeling better and will look forward to your next theory. Prioritize your health, your community on here (as well as myself lol) will understand and still be here 🫶☺️
@poxy1000
@poxy1000 7 месяцев назад
What if liara is the villain in the next game?
@Seneka976
@Seneka976 7 месяцев назад
It's not true in ME Universe that "each stage can be started whenever an asari feels that she has reached the correct level of maturity". This fragment DOES NOT come from the Codex and was probably written by one of the wiki's authors, who seemingly incorrectly interpreted this Codex fragment - there's no basis for that interpretation. This is the original Codex entry from Mass Effect 2 (Secondary, Council Races, Asari:Biology): "While each stage of life is marked by strong biological tendencies, individuals do make unexpected life choices. For example, there are Maidens who stay close to home rather than explore, Matrons who would rather work than build a family, and Matriarchs who have no interest in community affairs." Based on that fragment one would need to conclude that the stages of Asari life are indeed biologically determined, yet they don't have to dictate any concrete way of life to an individual Asari. Can an Asari at the age of 100 become a Matron? No. Can she start a family? Yes, since their life choices aren't biologically determined. They are merely influenced by biology and individuals choose their way of life based on other factors as well - psychological, sociological, economic, etc. Liara is one such case. She doesn't need to enter the Matron stage to be a reponsible adult. She already was one way back in the Trilogy - at the very least in Mass Effect 3, though many would argue she grew up as a person even earlier. Like in case of other Asari, biology doesn't dictate who she is as a person - even if it affects her personality. She is after all, a freewilled individual shaping her own character
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
Interesting that the Wiki's entry wasn't in the codex. I wonder if the author found it in the games via an overheard conversation, or with talking with Samara? I'll keep an eye out for this upon replays.
@JynxedKoma
@JynxedKoma 7 месяцев назад
YESSSS! More Rule34 Liara T'Soni art coming with the next Mass Effect.
@warp00009
@warp00009 7 месяцев назад
Given where they seem to be with the next game so far (practically nowhere?), everything we've been seeing in all the N7-day reveals for the past few years seems to be just fluff - with probably nothing much to do with what we'll actually see in the game (if they can even produce and get it out the door, with the studio they've got left). Historically it looks pretty clear that N7-day drops have always been over analyzed hype that has been grossly over interpreted - and may not ultimately have much to do with the next game coming up at all. BioWare made a huge, critical blunder with Anthem and because of Andromeda's somewhat unjustified, poor reception - haven't really recovered either the ME or DA franchises at all. The huge question for the past few years remains, can they? How will promising IP's like Exodus impact BioWare's audience's expectations in the future - and will whatever they deliver be worth the tremendously long wait? I hope so, but the odds seem very much against it... Happy holidays and keep up the good, optimistic work! Stay safe and well everyone!
@r0cketm00se3
@r0cketm00se3 7 месяцев назад
In my opinion the reasoning for Liara being a matriarch instead of a matron is more hinged on their likelihood of bridging the two galaxies in the narrative. Since any involvement in Andromeda would put her as an early Matriarch (earlier if she didn't have kids frequently, according to the lore) based on when it happens in the timeline. I know it's not popular, but I could see the merits of Bioware going that route for the next series when considering all of the information we have about it. 1. Liara is the only OG squadmate that could live to the 2700's. Grunt obviously could but he's always been a smaller overall character and doesn't have what other critical positioning/info Liara does. People argue that Wrex could still be around but Drack shows us that even Krogan get old and creaky, it just takes to the 1500's before parts start failing. Wrex is already 1200-ish so Andromeda would have him at 1800 which would be an insane number for any Krogan. Personally I feel like Grunt will be the new leader of Urdnot if they stick with political tradition, and most likely just the top general of the Krogan military if they transition to more of a Democracy under the reign of Wrex. Either way, I don't think Wrex will still be alive. 2. Liara is the Shadow Broker, and has more resources at her disposal than any other non-governmental entity in the galaxy. Now amplify that over the course of 600 years and she could actually do quite a bit with her power. 3. She is the only one that canonically knows about the existence of the Andromeda Initiative that would still be alive when they arrive and Andromeda takes place. All of this adds up to her potentially deciding to send out a QEC linked to the Shadow Broker HQ in an FTL probe that takes the same path as the AI did. Maybe a century or so post-war after discovering the Geth relay/scope that the AI used to see the Heleus cluster, she modifies it to accelerate the probe and "catch up" with the Initiative. Either way they could pull a Halo 2 style dual-narrative and have a seasoned and veteran Ryder discover the probe, allowing access to instantaneous trans-galactic communication with Liara. This would kickstart the ramifications from the decision to hide the Reaper war from the AI/Angara, and potentially set the stage for a political upheaval as tensions mount amid a continued (and failing) resistance against the full forces of the Kett empire. Then we have the main story take place with what Liara was doing in the meantime, focused on world-building the new post-war galaxy and the different forces and motivations. IF they don't mess it up and we get a sequel you can have them beginning a dialogue and the centuries of tech development as the Shadow Broker allows the AI to convert the Nexus into their side of a trans-galactic relay to be linked with one that Liara is building. Then you have enough potential for political upheaval from both the Angara and the Milky Way species fighting over whether they want open access between galaxies to fill that game, and the third could be the link finally gets set up and the risks of evacuating the Initiative/allowing a Kett invasion become the focus. IDK, I'm just spitballing here, but Liara being the principle character alongside their original point about the two galaxies in the 2021 trailer meaning something tells a lot. I think it's setting the stage for an interaction and the shockwaves from bringing these groups back together.
@r0cketm00se3
@r0cketm00se3 7 месяцев назад
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Yeah late 2020, oh well. I could have sworn he talked about being a young Krogan not long after the genophage, maybe I'm thinking of Drack or someone else.
@Brinic1
@Brinic1 7 месяцев назад
Black is the color of mourning. If she is having or had Shepard child it would make sense to incorporate some human culture in her life. So maybe the redacted title is Mother. Just speculation
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate this take because the colour symbolism makes sense, however, if a player didn't romance Shepard, I don't think the ME team would go as far as to have Liara having Shep's kid for some type of continuation.
@Brinic1
@Brinic1 7 месяцев назад
@paragon7ME I can see your point. However, Bioware did write Liara to be obsessive, I actually kinda selfish. I get that she is popular, and most fans look past how she gave Shepard to Cerberus and never faced any consequences for her actions. She was also extremely rude and used Shepard to get Feron back. Also, think about the "gift" she shares with Shepard before the battle on earth. The scene is the same regardless of whether she is a is the romantic interest or not. No memories are shared. She locks arms with Shepard and places her head on Shepard shoulder. An intimate jester. Then they moved into a white light together. Could that have been the mating bond? Before, you just dismissed it. Remember, it didn't matter in ME2 if Liara was Shepard romance or not. She still keeps Shepard dogtags and Armor, plus she keys her security to Shepard DNA so only Shepard can find the information.
@Brinic1
@Brinic1 7 месяцев назад
@@paragonseven I wouldn't put it past bioware to down anything to give Liara an edge over other characters in storylines.
@thirdcoastfirebird
@thirdcoastfirebird 6 месяцев назад
Her new role is God.... Okay that was my bad joke of the day I'm sorry. Actually I think you are right. It would be interesting to see the time jump being small. That would mean the connection to Andromeda is going to be an interesting one.
@paragonseven
@paragonseven 6 месяцев назад
By all indications some weird timey-wimey stuff is happening from all the hints so far. 👀
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