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Mercedes has unleashed a new version of its SL, and this time it's aimed squarely at the Porsche 911. But can this soft top AMG compete with the benchmark in the sector? Alex Legouix hops aboard to find out.
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Комментарии : 690   
@del1000005
@del1000005 Год назад
Beautiful, high-performing vehicle, but the 911 is in a league of its own in my opinion.
@sixtrejody
@sixtrejody Год назад
You are correct!👍🏾
@gottliebdee263
@gottliebdee263 Год назад
You driven either? The fact that a well known and respected, (by quite a few), journo should tell you something.I'll take the SL.Why? Well, (disclaimer I prefer Mercs), but.............. 99% of the time you are on a public road and can't get to really stretch a car and check it's limits, therefore you're going to spend FAR more time experiencing it's luxuries. I'll go to a track if I want thrills.
@sosakapian8428
@sosakapian8428 Год назад
@@gottliebdee263 therefor u confirm what he says: in a league of its own
@lfa1908
@lfa1908 Год назад
Absolutely right. Take a 911 Carrera 4S to the track and It's gonna have the SL 55 for breakfast.
@BenzinioB
@BenzinioB Год назад
Correct! But it really depends on what you look for. If you are on the market for a sports car - then you should be idiot to buy the SL over the 911... however, if you look for brilliant open top GT flavoured nice driving machine - there is pretty much only one choice and it is the SL. Most journalists are judging the fish for its ability to climb trees ...
@sapnupuas7271
@sapnupuas7271 Год назад
I wouldn't even compare them. The 911 is more focused on being sporty while the sl combines performance and luxury
@Tkcb2799
@Tkcb2799 Год назад
The normal 911 has always been luxurious. Don't compare it to a gt3
@sapnupuas7271
@sapnupuas7271 Год назад
@@Tkcb2799 ?
@Tkcb2799
@Tkcb2799 Год назад
@@sapnupuas7271 Read again.
@gold-6680
@gold-6680 Год назад
@@sapnupuas7271 you don’t compare them because 911 is a sportscar and the sl is a grand tourer car
@lampard9512
@lampard9512 Год назад
@@gold-6680 regular 911 is a gt car, they even have +seater for children
@19NJS71
@19NJS71 Год назад
Sincerely I see no similarities at all with the 911.. don’t see them competing
@UTVH21
@UTVH21 Год назад
Yeah.. its so much better.
@mntbayandaimran
@mntbayandaimran Год назад
Yeah honestly I see the SL competing with the 911 Targa's or GT Cabriolets and the Ferrari California's
@Tkcb2799
@Tkcb2799 Год назад
You don't think there's any similiarity between this and a Porsche 911 Targa 4s?
@MAG-Crew
@MAG-Crew Год назад
@@Tkcb2799 Only rear part they copy it Max they can yo look like Porsche.
@19NJS71
@19NJS71 Год назад
@@Tkcb2799 this weights over 2000 kg.. zero similarities
@andrewstevenson6540
@andrewstevenson6540 Год назад
As a child in the 80's I dreamt of having a 500SL and a Carrera. Unfortunately I'm still dreaming🙃
@ytwizzle
@ytwizzle Год назад
Start planning
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte Год назад
0:54 Ferdinand Porsche wasn't "sacked". He left of his own accord because he didn't like what Mercedes were doing.
@JO_Artificial
@JO_Artificial Год назад
He probably knew he was going to be sacked a decided to be ahead of the his employers.
@arapaimagold8088
@arapaimagold8088 Год назад
And then Merc asked Porsche to build E500 for them. And Ferdinand family also ended up as the richest family in automobile industry. Greatness always starts from leaving.
@Bmontepeque11
@Bmontepeque11 Год назад
If I had the money I wouldn't even doubt going for the 911 GTS because I value fun more than luxury, but this looks so good! ❤️ Also, great review as always fron AutoTrader ❤️
@labibahmed9710
@labibahmed9710 Год назад
Buy 86,miata,boxter,cayman old
@bella_testastretta
@bella_testastretta Год назад
this wont age well. 911s are timeless.
@funkyhomosapien1
@funkyhomosapien1 Год назад
Rory have a word! She didn't do a standing rev test once on this. We are interested in the noise the car makes as well 🙂
@legouix
@legouix Год назад
Haha... understood ;-)
@Kmh0277
@Kmh0277 Год назад
@@legouix Don't hold back. We all expect standing rev tests and 0-60 times with launch control. It's all we know.
@antonroux6737
@antonroux6737 Год назад
actually no, the narrative style of this was primo
@Kmh0277
@Kmh0277 Год назад
@@antonroux6737 no one is denying that, we just want to hear the car’s engine before everything is electric and boring. Throw a zoom H6 in the seat next to you and run lavaliers to the engine bay and exhaust while you can.
@patrickaguidissou666
@patrickaguidissou666 Год назад
Nice military jacket.
@donndee3587
@donndee3587 Год назад
Porsche all day every day !
@madferit84
@madferit84 Год назад
Let’s be honest: this is clickbait. Don’t swear please. 911 is in Olympus. It’s ridiculous to even make a comparison. And this fancy big tv screen in the cockpit explains well the direction of the market. 😢😢😢😢😢
@somerandomfella
@somerandomfella Год назад
The current 911 is timeless. This however will outdate in a few years..
@easezgin
@easezgin Год назад
This will outdate much faster than the 2002 SL, which is elegant. This has too much boy-racer look at me youtuber vibe. I was shocked when I heard the exorbitant price. Rival to the 911? Peh.
@martinogold
@martinogold Месяц назад
I wouldnt say any of the water cooled 911s are timeless. Now an air cooled one, definitely.
@MA-xo8cf
@MA-xo8cf Год назад
Sincerely the new 911 is unmatched , it is just in a category of its own
@zerexxx2
@zerexxx2 Год назад
The 911 is more comparable ti the gt black series no ?
@nhlakaniphoshandu8654
@nhlakaniphoshandu8654 Год назад
Not really. Just a face lift but performance wise, all 911 are just talk. If you know your cars you wouldn't be saying this.
@youngprankster94
@youngprankster94 Год назад
Needed Rory to review this 🙈
@bigpants6121
@bigpants6121 Год назад
agreed.
@tatendalesliejambwa7081
@tatendalesliejambwa7081 Год назад
Come on guys be nice, imagine if she reads this, this how the TraderGang treats people now ?
@bigpants6121
@bigpants6121 Год назад
@@tatendalesliejambwa7081 so you want people to be quiet?
@dimuthu8888
@dimuthu8888 Год назад
@@tatendalesliejambwa7081 she better read this and give it back to Rory. I'm unsubscribing
@davidbacon1899
@davidbacon1899 Год назад
Rory presents best, don't want any other input. Otherwise it's just 5th Gear
@brendoncollins5887
@brendoncollins5887 Год назад
Rory!!!!!! where are You???
@yes8032
@yes8032 Год назад
@@yvrytry5rc they’re both amazing but I’m just used to hearing Rory’s voice more indeed
@mattguerra82
@mattguerra82 Год назад
What an excellent review! Alex has been a great addition to the team, well done 👏👏
@creativerayn
@creativerayn Год назад
I wish I could afford one, I find it beautiful especially the interior - I love Mercedes tech.
@chris-vn6sw
@chris-vn6sw Год назад
I’d still go with a 911 ❤
@rebel4792
@rebel4792 Год назад
The reason I subbed to this channel was Rory, what’s going on? Where is he we need him back. She is okay but we need Rory back.
@user-hb6ms3mb4t
@user-hb6ms3mb4t Год назад
Next level commentating. The car, the lady, pure class. Thank you ❤☺️
@-DC-
@-DC- Год назад
Enjoying the calm well paced presentation, Good Review.
@yes8032
@yes8032 Год назад
Underrated opinion: I would choose this
@tatendalesliejambwa7081
@tatendalesliejambwa7081 Год назад
For real you would?
@mtadc1545
@mtadc1545 Год назад
@@tatendalesliejambwa7081 I’m a 100% 911 guy, but I can see why someone would prefer this. First thing is the comfort. This would be definitely more comfortable than a 992.
@TD1237
@TD1237 Год назад
Same
@yes8032
@yes8032 Год назад
@@tatendalesliejambwa7081 yessir
@makaw2006
@makaw2006 Год назад
Not fan of cars attached to a tablet, exterior looks nice though. I'd either go for used AMG GT or Porsche.
@habsom1406
@habsom1406 Год назад
Excellent review! But I'd still take a 911 all day long...in any variant!
@olofdaisler9121
@olofdaisler9121 Год назад
4s cabrio manual for me, no other vehicle offer awd+manual+convertible+4 seats.
@habsom1406
@habsom1406 Год назад
@@olofdaisler9121 Nice choice! Roof down and that flat six whaling in your ears, pure joy!
@ankitshelke8637
@ankitshelke8637 Год назад
Post the SL with amoeba shaped headlamps, this looks like an absolute beaut. The discontinued GT came quite close to the 911 in terms of performance. With this SL and the upcoming GT, I hope Mercedes will be as formidable as the 911.
@SM-1010
@SM-1010 Год назад
New SLs are sick! They aren’t destroying all of their designs like BMW… thank god
@pobinr
@pobinr 2 месяца назад
No need for irritating distracting music. I just sold my Z3M roadster & replaced it with a low mileage R231 SL500 in hyacinth red with cream leather. It corners really well. Nice & flat hardly any body roll. No scuttle shake. I think Chris Harris knows his cars well & he loved the AMG63. Mine's not the AMG SL63 admittedly. But not much less power or performance. It's more than enough. In fact I'm in awe of it. The fact it takes an extra 200 or 300 milliseconds to reach the legal speed limit compared to the AMG is immaterial. 0-60 in 4.5s effortlessly is fine with me. It doesn't even feel like it's trying, there's so much torque. Sounds like I have 4 V twin superbike engines under the bonnet :-) I'm loving it to bits. I considered an SLK55. But they're almost as expensive. A great little V8 roadster, but less car for the money. Plus I'm 6 foot tall so it felt a a little cramped
@RavenValkyrie
@RavenValkyrie Год назад
The scenery is Gorgeous!
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 Год назад
No one will cross shop this and a 911. They are similar in price, and that's it. The AMG GT is more of the 911 challenger. The SL has out lived it's usefulness and really has no place in MB's lineup. Want a luxurious GT coupe? Get the S class coupe. Want a performance GT capable coupe? Get the AMG GT. What purpose does the SL really serve?
@Schervin
@Schervin Год назад
The S class coupe should've been called SL actually
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 Год назад
@Shervin I don't think the SL should exist anymore since you now have the S coupe and the AMG GT. The AMG GT is closer to the original SL than the current SL. Plus the AMG GT comes in so many different flavors and states of tune and trim the SL doesn't have a place in the market.
@MaxNeal-tl9bd
@MaxNeal-tl9bd Год назад
It’s going to be a great car but it’s never going to unseat the GOAT 911. 🙄
@shazfazal3535
@shazfazal3535 Год назад
Comparing this just to 911 is like comparing the sun with the moon. Porsche is automotive geniuses. They are the Chef's Kiss.
@Wafflelover344
@Wafflelover344 Год назад
5:40 man, she makes that car look huge from this angle
@jamescoleman4059
@jamescoleman4059 Год назад
I miss Rory 😢
@TD1237
@TD1237 Год назад
He's here in nearly every video lol
@TeaVR
@TeaVR 7 месяцев назад
Give all the reviews to this woman! Breath of fresh air!
@gerardfitzpatrick60
@gerardfitzpatrick60 Год назад
She’s right it’s like Liverpool v everton there is no comparison 👌
@softroseforyou7457
@softroseforyou7457 Год назад
Beautiful car inside and out. It is luxury and performance and that is what I love about it. I think this would be good competition for the Porsche.
@Xayuap
@Xayuap Год назад
you are not reviewing. you are selling.
@septopus3516
@septopus3516 Год назад
Where's Ro...?
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Год назад
Being an AMG owner, I waited and waited for the new SL in the hopes of trading in. But now that it's here, available only as SL63 in Canada at an eye watering price of $212k CAD starting price, I bought a V8 C8 Corvette convertible instead at half the price and given the performance, handling and attention I've been getting, I have not regretted it since. You guys NEED to test drive the right hand drive C8, especially the Z06 and especially given Rory's propensity for American muscle. Even at UK prices, I'm willing to bet it's a worldwide bargain!
@benkrapf
@benkrapf Год назад
VALUE PROPOSITION
@GOINFINITI
@GOINFINITI Год назад
That Z06 is a work of engineering art and performance - but good luck finding one available, let alone at sticker price :)
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Год назад
@@GOINFINITI If you place a customer order, you'll get one at MSRP, but you'll have to wait. C8's that are over sticker are cars dealers buy for showroom stock and therefore they can charge whatever they want. They cannot do that for customer orders. That's how I got my C8 for MSRP, but I got lucky and only waited for 10 months because a tons of people jumped off the Stingray waiting list and onto the Z06 waiting list ... and are still waiting.
@tommyolsen8224
@tommyolsen8224 Год назад
LOVE the new SL ❤️‍🔥🔥😍
@klausnielsen7102
@klausnielsen7102 Год назад
All I can take away from this is the the 911 is the bench mark!
@richardlabeja
@richardlabeja Год назад
Technically it's very difficult for a front engine car to compete with a 911 in terms of performance.
@ld9387
@ld9387 Год назад
I disagree. An M4/M8 or SL55/SL63 will all give a 911 Carrera a run for its money.
@richardlabeja
@richardlabeja Год назад
A base 911 maybe. But a Turbo or GT3, they would struggle, especially on a track. The 911 is so much lighter and has more traction and braking ability with the engine at the back. They are all fantastic cars though. The 911 just has the most efficient dynamics for sports driving.
@olofdaisler9121
@olofdaisler9121 Год назад
@@ld9387 a 510 hp M4 comp can barely keep up with a 450hp carrera 4s...
@victorhansen839
@victorhansen839 Год назад
@@olofdaisler9121 Porsche horsepower is just different. No car with around the same horsepower can compete with Porsche
@olofdaisler9121
@olofdaisler9121 Год назад
@@victorhansen839 maybe only corvette C8, because of the rear engine
@vexqty
@vexqty Год назад
Shouldnt be compared to a 911, two different cars.
@christo123
@christo123 Год назад
I haven't driven the 55 but I have driven the 63 and the new 911 Carrera 4 and I must say I would take the SL63 any day of the week, unless I was tracking the car then I would take the Porsche. As a weekender or an everyday drive the SL is so so much better
@menaseven9093
@menaseven9093 Год назад
Beautiful Mercedes SL55.
@johnruppert5630
@johnruppert5630 Год назад
I had a 2005 SL55 .. doesn’t really compete with the 911. It’s a heavy grand touring car not really a pure sports car 🤷‍♂️😢
@seph95
@seph95 Год назад
Usually, when a title ends with a question (like this), the answer is: no. Never fails.
@gold-6680
@gold-6680 Год назад
I believe their “response” to the 911 is the amg gt coupe, not the sl, the sl is more of a gt car, aimed at m8c
@ld9387
@ld9387 Год назад
But this targets the same buyer as the 911 Carrera Cabriolet. Not every Porsche buyer cares about the brand's heritage. Some just want an expensive luxury convertible.
@JP-vg6te
@JP-vg6te 8 месяцев назад
I pick mine up at Mercedes Benz of Ontario on Wednesday… I’m so excited since test driving it… had to have it wrapped to protect the paint… but, I’m so over the top with this brand and especially this new SL 55!!!
@MDAce150
@MDAce150 Год назад
This was a fantastic review. She has a wonderful conversational quality along with a fun, yet professional demeanor. I’m genuinely impressed by this new version of the SL and glad the 55 moniker is back. Not sure I’d take it over a GTS, but she makes it a much tougher decision.
@michaellee401
@michaellee401 Год назад
I don't think I will get any car with A/C controls on a screen😔
@ld9387
@ld9387 Год назад
I think people in the comments are forgetting that this car and the 911 Carrera Cabriolet target the same buyer. Not every Porsche buyer cares about driving dynamics and the heritage of the brand. Some just want a luxury convertible.
@CrankyAsF
@CrankyAsF Год назад
Not to sound sexist, so please go easy on the hate, but she is really good at reviews. I wish I could say that for many of the others.
@ponanikhoza1934
@ponanikhoza1934 Год назад
I remember about a decade ago with the new Aston Martin Vantage, it was dubbed a 911 beater and so was the first generation Audi R8. It saw all of them through. I suspect it won't be any different either with this new SL. I think if any one or any vehicle for that matter would want to "kill" the 911, start off by simply tainting its amazing storyline from the hearts of many a folk out there. Nevertheless, this has its own story too which is nothing short of stellar indeed. Smooth review Alex.
@mogulme6190
@mogulme6190 Год назад
The corvette is is now a legit contender
@commandertopgun
@commandertopgun Год назад
Beautiful car review on the new SL, how awesome is that well done
@adymatt334
@adymatt334 Год назад
This was beautifully filmed
@pmkmedia
@pmkmedia Год назад
“When I was a young man my father took me into the city to see a matching band….” came to mind with the jacket choice, great review!
@jz4780
@jz4780 Год назад
and you comapre it to 911 carrera 4 gts cabrio but that on all makes over 500+hp porsche really understates their hp and porsche easily does 0 100 in 3.1 sec and merc their basic 3.9 not faster times like porsche states 3.5 but 3.1 is normal on these you compare 2 different worlds that are not the competitors becase porsche right now has no competition from any1
@lovelehstuff
@lovelehstuff Год назад
This review is so Fancy it makes me feel rich lol great work Alex
@Kmh0277
@Kmh0277 Год назад
Looks like a Z4 taking on the boxster spyder. It does have tiny useless seats in the back though like the 911. I like the way it looks but I bet it feels heavy AF.
@tim0r1
@tim0r1 Год назад
Alex out breaking hearts again :3
@halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057
Since she opened up a football derby topic, I'm going to say. Mercedes Benz: Real Madrid, Manchester United, Liverpool and FC Barcelona Porsche: Atletico Madrid, Manchester City, Everton and RCD Espanyol
@jfisher0615
@jfisher0615 Год назад
Thrilled with my new 55
@edkwon
@edkwon Год назад
Probably packs some of the best design elements of modern MBs, front end from an AMG GT and rear end of CLS
@md.moinulislam9467
@md.moinulislam9467 Год назад
So elite by style and looks..... Just gorgius!
@nikolauswolff5791
@nikolauswolff5791 Год назад
It's really naiv to compere the two cars with each other. As you can see by my avatar photo i am from Stuttgart. I know both brands very good. The SL is a luxury roadster with a good drivability. The 911 is a complete different beast. It's like a 100m runner vs a shot putter. When you steer the SL into a curve you can hear the Porsche flat 6 Boxer screaming because he disapears with a big gap.
@jasminderbharij5861
@jasminderbharij5861 Год назад
Against the cabriolet Carrera 4, fair enough, since like you've mentioned they're both of a similar price. But that's where the comparison ends re the other focused Porsche models. I would buy the Merc in such a case anyway, have it tuned to 600 bhp.
@antoniovargas3028
@antoniovargas3028 Год назад
Bhp? British horse power?
@jasminderbharij5861
@jasminderbharij5861 Год назад
@@antoniovargas3028 I don't know if thats a genuine question or if you're looking for a slap through your computer.
@jamiep61
@jamiep61 Год назад
No other Car Review Channel has Filmed a Video but thank you for doing this 😊
@KuahVideo
@KuahVideo Год назад
No colourful canvas top, with matching colourful seats and seatbelts? The Germans are still not matching machinery wizardry with artistic wonders. If those mentioned parts are in brilliant colours, then the AMG SL55 will truly be THE car!
@alain-danieltankwa8007
@alain-danieltankwa8007 Год назад
I'd like to know how it drives compared to the 911. Rory?
@nigelpayne4641
@nigelpayne4641 Год назад
Bring back Rory full time
@harrygoaz1874
@harrygoaz1874 Год назад
This is one of the best car videos ever!
@therealkinghimself
@therealkinghimself Год назад
It looks sweet
@CGCTV
@CGCTV Год назад
This is a daft comparison, a better rival for the SL55 would be the M8 convertible
@Schervin
@Schervin Год назад
So where is the s class coupe?
@AristotelisMitsiou
@AristotelisMitsiou Год назад
@@Schervin That's be against the regular 8 Series Coupe
@BillyBoy444
@BillyBoy444 Год назад
£15, 000 will buy you an original half decent used SL 55 AMG... Why anyone would pay nearly 150k for this is beyond me 🤷‍♂️
@DS-vx3wf
@DS-vx3wf Год назад
Merc is not bad, but can't beat 911. .. heck even Cayman GTS/ GT4 are really really good!
@BitcoinKal
@BitcoinKal Год назад
Come back Rory all is forgiven 😆
@sidthiru1509
@sidthiru1509 Год назад
You can’t compare them. A 911 will always be a 911
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 Год назад
WOW, Alex - you have a really classy, engaging presentation style... such measured phrasing and intonation... Brilliant work. 😎
@habsom1406
@habsom1406 Год назад
Totally agree Jonathan Taylor. Rory and Alex are both top notch presenters. Consistently well filmed and edited videos by the AutoTrader team.
@bardia8225
@bardia8225 Год назад
stop simping
@Rinanathar
@Rinanathar Год назад
@@bardia8225 don’t blame him
@dimuthu8888
@dimuthu8888 Год назад
Simping hard 🤦‍♂️
@GemmyDonCars
@GemmyDonCars Год назад
I've driven both and no, the 911 is still the king. Feels lighter, nicer steering and more linear power delivery. Looks better, too. The SL is great, but I'd take the 911 easily.
@BanglawalaNeesarg
@BanglawalaNeesarg Год назад
That was a good episode!
@velko2433
@velko2433 Год назад
Sports Light - over 2 tons. That answer the question from header text
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 Год назад
Kind of agree with most of the comments so far. The 911 was and is an icon, existing in that weird stratosphere where icons are more than the sum of its parts. Nothing can compete unless it is an icon in its own right. Many cheaper cars can out-perform a new basic 911…… but they are simply trying too hard. I have one but I would rather a basic Porsche…
@rizwinkp9641
@rizwinkp9641 Год назад
Where's Rory?
@Dhananjuly
@Dhananjuly Год назад
Wow. What a beautiful car.
@mosesmanaka8109
@mosesmanaka8109 Год назад
Love your jacket.
@iamtheexaggerator2760
@iamtheexaggerator2760 Год назад
Oooof. Chelsea didn't even get a shoutout to be considered rivals. Nice
@blacksc400
@blacksc400 11 месяцев назад
I have both, a Turbo S and SL 63. SL is way more tech and consort, but won’t even touch 911 driving experience.
@MrMESSI
@MrMESSI Год назад
Americans are confused about the football metaphor 💀
@peterbratu
@peterbratu Год назад
I own an R231 SL63, fully loaded. I would pick the 911 vs the new SL any day.
@wilhelmtrager7875
@wilhelmtrager7875 5 месяцев назад
I don't care about what car is better. If I had the money, I would need both!
@ioblings
@ioblings Год назад
Nice review but I choose the 911 without even a doubt
@andrewnosworthy2202
@andrewnosworthy2202 Год назад
You aaallmost convinced me🇯🇲...shows how great a presenter you are. Seems you watched Top Gear and thought "nah!..I could do better!"😆 Great review...but I think I'd have the GTS instead.
@rabbitinnh
@rabbitinnh Год назад
2023 911 Turbo, same price ($180K+options), 0-60 mph in 2.1 sec vs 3.0, 1/4 mile in 9.9 sec vs 11.4. No contest.
@ryankeegan1542
@ryankeegan1542 Год назад
Niceeee plus its got 4 seats 👌 bit pricey though....
@sandman79sg
@sandman79sg Год назад
8:26 what’re you on about? Audi has been taking on the Porsche 911 with its R8 for over a decade now.
@grizley123
@grizley123 Год назад
What a load of BS? SL and 911 competing? Kind of like Man United and LA Lakers… Nonsense
@quattrorsq8558
@quattrorsq8558 Год назад
There is no comparison! 911 All day!
@davidmartin2957
@davidmartin2957 Год назад
Absolutely not a chance in hell, it’s a proverbial hairdresser’s car.
@aneebaba06
@aneebaba06 Год назад
This was funny!! Thanks for this. Lol Rory, powerful, good looking Benteyga
@SeanyMacks
@SeanyMacks Год назад
She didn't do anything wrong... but I miss Rory.
@enricocurcio1610
@enricocurcio1610 Год назад
To me the SL55 is more about to compete to the BMW Z4 than an 911
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