New METAHUMANS are TOO REALISTIC in UNREAL ENGINE 5.2 

I have goosebumps

Running on a ps5 doesn't mean a lot imo . Those animations wouldn't work when a full blown 3d open world is built around you

I just sat thru the enitre Epic Games presentation at GDC and didnt see this deformation demo...did they cut it out?

I don’t even need to imagine. I can just computers to do it for me 😅

In PS5? The motion live capture is about a future XSX game, not PS5. Thanks to the power of dreams :)

Exactly. The progress is beyond amazing

Add to those 40 years exponential improvement of AI and everything else and the next 40 years will be nothing like the last 40 years.

Mario will be serving you your happy meal

40 years... That stings.

People talk about Mario like was the most important thing to came out in gaming history, Cant stand these Nintendo Fanboys, They know ZERO about gaming history

But most probably it'll be used in news and politics. This level of tech and billions are not invested so that people can wander around in video games.

ok when ya gonna do AI pron now using pron star faces?

@@LittleUrbanPrepper anything that makes an income is worth pursuing in a capitalistic environment, video games are an entire industry, don't underestimate them

@@dieauferstehung isn't that done already?

@@OP-lk4tw yes, but actually no. Don't overestimate them either.

It's amazing, but also scary. I don't like the idea that you can create a fantastic representation of the real world but without the real world problems that real life brings. People would spend all days in that digital world and that can't be good..

there's always been an issue with addiction in entertainment products. With good self control that issue is avoided, (not as a whole but at least for that person) Just think of all the good things stuff like this will bring! :)

@@TikoYTOfficial ​what’s up tiko, didn’t expect you to be here

@@TikoYTOfficial like what

I am waiting when ai will be integrated into this. Imagine when NPc behaviour will not be scripted, but managed by AI intelligence instead, maybe even by some kind of general AI

Definitely agree. I mean a lot of tools now are easier and faster than any time before, but things are also orders of magnitude more complex and so take longer. With AI/ML and increased hw performance we might start seeing more of the really cool (and risky) ideas be realized with good graphics, fleshed out gameplay and support. I’m pretty much only playing indies as AAA polish nowadays strips all but the most basic oomph from games.

Not 1 indie developer has released a game using metahumans. And if they did, there would only be 5 or less rendering at any given time. They are far too performance heavy. Even when you remove facial animation, hair and set the LOD to 4, they still tank projects. Cool tech, but not for indies.

I can't wait for games to be 500GB a pop

they're taking longer because of publishers trying to squeeze out more money, more middle men and bad salaries / contracts for designers which is why they have to resort to entry level designers. game development doesn't take years in any efficient company

@@xaby996 I thought with nanite they don't use LOD's anymore, am I wrong?

Just think. Future generations of children will completely lack any amazement, because the graphical singularity will have already been reached and there isn't much more improvements we can do.

@@Ben-rz9cf I guess they can always wow them with incredible writing

​@@mrcheese5383or just show them the history of how far things have come so they can gain perspective.....🤷

we used to turn off the lights and huddle around our pentium pc with DOS to watch the Mortal Kombat intro... took 5 floppy disks to install which was a huge deal back then

I'm hopeful that someone Musk-like works out how to make San Junipero a reality so I can go on enjoying new gaming experiences for the next few centuries. I, also, am a child of the Pong generation and every new year of gaming comes closer and closer to true magic in my eyes, I can't wait to see what comes next!!

Hey, you could apply for a bed at cryogenic facilities!

or porn

I think we will see what games look like in 5 years or earlier. Its amazing.

@@justinleybourne2712 What do you see replacing it?

They have done work on that too in another video. Even have accounts for clothes too.

This, and destruction, character body animation (how they interact and blend with the environment) and particle simulation.

@@grey_north9016 Volumetric particle simulation and procedural destruction are far more important for gameplay mechanics than the cloth-blending, but by golly the cloth-blending is the most impressive looking feature because it removes that uncanny immersion-breaking element to 3D clothes that we always see. I hope that unlike a lot of the cool tech features introduced in UE3 and UE4 that these more advanced design libraries don't get left behind or only used in short films during UE5's market run. I would love to see actual interactive games put these features to use finally.

​@@billywashere6965 The thing is, we have goo looking particle simulation and procedural destruction with the Unreal Engine 5, but we didn't had anything to make cloth-blending really realistic, and now we finally have. Take Red Dead2 and TLOU2 as example, both games are incredible realistic, but if we look at they cloths while doing any kind of animation, we see that there's something very off, because cloth are static, or just things like capes and skirt which moves, but still, no bending at all. Now we will finally have it with UE5. Well, of course, I know that this is something that we will only see, maybe at the end of this current generation, but still, impressive af

Wrinkles in clothing particularly still look very static. That is, any wrinkles are built into the mesh and just stretch as the character deforms, instead of dynamically wrinkling in different places. I'm really looking forward to real time dynamic cloth wrinkling that doesn't nuke CPUs haha.

100%. clothing deformation is the next big thing I want to see. I don't care how photoreal models look, but I do like real world physics, especially with cloth. Hogwarts legacy did more cloth physics than I've seen in a game I think

I remember the Syphon Filter intro running through the jungle around 14years old and thinking we'll never have gameplay like that ever... im 37 now and its crazy to see how far gaming has come.

@Cristiano dos Santos Gomes my wildest dreams don't look this real lol

We are dream about just cinematic video quality whlie playing psx

ps1 buddy

So you were a pathetic nerd since the childhood? I never cared about graphics, only gameplay

fear is a form of excitement after all!

just some good looking pixels

japanese men with VR goggles and rumble packs questionably close to the groin area are getting excited, it's time to ditch the robot doll!

I understand the fear, but also I am aware that all knew leaps in technology scare us. Trains, cars, electricity, planes, etc. When RU-vid and camera phones came out, my boss thought all our video producer jobs were doomed, and now I am busier than ever and using a lot of this new technology to automate more tedious processes. Sociopathic capitalism, surveillance, and resource conservation are always the big fears. I read way to into your comment, and got on my own tirade. Yes. Creepy, but amazing, lol.

@@jmfs3497 well if this just isn't an EXCELLENT comment! It's great that you mentioned your own situation as an example because this couldn't be any more true!

This summer

Much less than two years. It's possible to do right now and I'm sure there are several companies already developing it.

What if we could get a game where you literally talk through a mic with NPCs that can understand and respond in any language and also result in different outcomes depending on your questions with the only pre-programmed thing will be the core motive of a character?

@@illironiks I'm actually working on an app with this exact functionality as part of it =D It is 100% achievable with current tech.

And people will fall in love with it (literally)

In one of the newest Tomb Raiders (don't remember which one) they also did that for Lara. Of course she is no powerhouse muscled up of a human (she's skinny), so it is very subtle, but yeah, it's in there

Muscles don't flex. Joints flex.

@@mattseaton5832 Don't expect too much from a non-native english speaker

@@John315 Most native English speakers get this wrong also. Almost all of them.

@@mattseaton5832 Ok Mr. Perfect Biologist, Surgeon, Human Body Master

BUT...It's DEFINITELY getting there!

true

There will always be one, the human brain is too good at noticing when something is a little off. It's the same reason why we can imagine shapes of a face in random places in the world, our brain recognizes a pattern and imagines it as a face, but always knows that it's not right

@@JonatanE nah, give it 5 years. It's already almost there.

Yea the movements are too smooth. Also the wrinkles formed when speaking aren't uniform like in a real person whose muscles are all connected.

much easier to fix that for an animator with the base though!

I also think it looks like the people are wearing braces, or a mouthpiece. Something about the lips seems off. The shade on the teeth and a lack of glance, it looks weird. But otherwise it's awesome.

/\ this

@@rlolalleskapot ^ This

The ultimate version comes with the tech so you can scan in your mates and beat the snot out of them.....

Like the matrix?

Elon tried that with neural link, hurting alot of monkeys in the process. I don't see it happening for another 50 years, having a brain implant that's safe and valuable enough to risk.

most people have no game

@@PCgamer923 I don't think Sean meant mind controlling a game character with something like Neuralink. I think he meant taking a video of ourselfs at home, upload it into the game, and have a visual representation of your character that you can e.g. classically control with keyboard/mouse/gamepad, all non invasive.

Maybe an elden ring character that actually looks like me. Honestly though a game that made good use of this, where the hero legitimately looks like you, would be a game changer.

Are you sure we aren't already there?

Play the Deus Ex game series. Everything happens as in this series of games. This is sad.

People have been saying this for decades.

@@LordLentils yeah and it's becoming more and more apparent

This was done intentionally to demonstrate the technology, it wouldn't be as amazing if the actor wasn't as expressive.

They touch it up afterwards, but for the tech do do all of this work all on its own for you saves so much time in game development.

I agree. Part of this is the actual acting. Specifically videogames. The acting can be a bit too far from the center.

Bay Raitt : I textured the version he used to develop the facial expressions based on the "Facial Action Coding System" (FACS) developed by Dr Paul Ekman.

Yeah I would love to see this with a top tier actor that’s more subtle, less Shakespearean or fanmade energy. No offense to the actress, as that works for other media, just not the style I’d prefer in games I’d play.

Agreed

Impossible Mission is still more fun to play than any game of today.

@@WinrichNaujoks Yeah, no. I grew up with Pong, Atari, C64...and Mass Effect was 100x more fun than Impossible Mission, and No Man's Sky even better than that.

@@rikk319 🤣🤣🤣 Ass Effect? NMS? What have you smoked?

"Life imitates art far more than art imitates life” -Oscar Wilde She’s just a product of art

I thought the same! Wonder what it would look like if she toned it down for a more natural effect

Bad acting.

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Not bad, Just over zealous.

That's not bad acting, everyone who played hellblade know she's great. That's overacting to better show the potential of Unreal

This is the most accurate description

I think they set up her meta human before and it’s just applying the animation they got from the iPhone to the rigged character

@@liamjones203 You're right.

But the animation and expressions were still poor and not convincing

you don't know that Have you looked at the actor and its model side by side ? Also, they captured her from very close Look at 3:38 how deformed she is. I assume they have what it takes to compensate for this, like camera intrinsics, a robust model of normal looking people, and so on. Just don't take pictures of people from this close.

Even better use would be making VR versions of real people - imagine your children being to have a conversation with the you of today!

@@smoothbanana It would only be a memory. Otherwise, it would be a real consciousness trapped. I wouldn't want to talk to an empty version of my father, it would be quite sad.

​@@Kira-vq5cd thats always been a big question in transhumanism... but i think that once possible, there could be a bridge between the world of the living and a virtual world... one where we exist in both places at once for a time, and then the living world just... drops away at some point, just like when you turn off the virtual one and it stops interacting with your consciousness, the real world would turn off, and stop interacting with your consciousness, but because it lives in both places at once, it would remain your consciousness. an interesting question is, once you have transfered over to that state, what if you made a perfect copy? that copy, assuming the first part is accepted as the real you, would also be the real you in the moment of the copy. after that, it would have new and different experiences... would that other be you still? just a different version of you.... and what if later you re-combine? pretty wild.

They do that with adult webcamming. Honestly, I didn't notice until I spent more time on there. They do movements as you request, but if you keep on requesting, eventually, there is some sort of a pattern.

The girl's mouth was kinda wide and had too much visible gums, maybe that's why it reflected in all the "Metahumans".

@@flashpunk7333 I mean more in general in other demos and when I’ve played around with it. I couldn’t get the mouth to feel more neutral. But your totally right, she definitely had more exaggerated mouth moments in this one!

Yeah I noticed that as well, just still something missing.. but I didn't wanna say it because I can't believe we're lucky enough to live in a time when this is what video games look like lol.

@@k.c.simonsen2 Looks like the tracking is just a little bit off, when the mouth is closed it looks great. The resting position when it's open seems to lean a little too far into a grimace which throws everything off. Should be easy enough to fix with the tools they showed, and probably looks much better with a more careful performance capture rather than thrown together on stage quickly for demonstration.

Probably a mix of capture quality with the tracking of the mouth, but give it a few years and even that will probably be 100% spot on. Maybe even the micro-expressions capture and tiniest of facial wrinkles. Still comparing it to game graphics from even just a few years back it is worlds apart.

@@GGCannon years lol more like months

That's where the tweaking comes in. Even before, the initial work of capturing the animation was never perfect. Animators still needed to go in and do fine adjustments, but this gets close enough in mere minutes.

I think you mean 2024 ;) This is quite possible to do right now in real-time with current hardware. This evolution is moving much faster than most people expect.

oh my 😂

Exactly!

They are going to be eating good today.

a man of culture

@@GloryOfBarbelo coomer 🙄🙄

How come you're speechless ?

sus xD

Nah, you are seeyimg something wrong, I played both vídeos in slowmo and the difference is basically none, few differences in the eye movement, but that could be easily because of the capture cam didnt captured the eye motion 1:1 correctly. But the movement of players head, eyerbrown, and the mounth were 1:1

@@hicarodestrui excuse me not

@@aktchungrabanio6467 Excuse-me, yes

I definitely noticed that too! I was like “that doesn’t seem right.” Then I replayed it. I don’t know if the cameras not picking it up or if they pre-recorded this.

well Unreal Engine 5 is not really made with low poly in mind given the big focus of nanite

Not just in gaming. Recent TV series and movies are using Unreal Engine to create virtual scenery extensively.

Why are you acting like this is not the fifth iteration of an engine that has been out for a long time?

@@LordLentils What difference does that make?

​@@LordLentils Why are you acting like creating an engine from scratch is necessarily the only way to make new technical advancements in real time rendering? Do you not see the changes with your eyes?

Tbh we've seen these tech demos around 8 years ago, same with these physics tech demos. Still never implemented in games

mouth is hardest. It always looks off when they're talking. If they're just standing there it's alright

I agree

Finally a girl booty movement can be realistic 😂

U HAD ME AT JIGGLE PHYSICS, MMM MOMMY MILKERS 😍😍😍

I've unironically been waiting for proper _body physics_ for a long time; "jiggle" isn't what we need. Like, if you lay on your side or back, gravity is going to affect your body, etc. Couple that with muscle deformation and next-gen cloth sims/approximations, and characters will look absolutely amazing-regardless of whether they're NSFW or just regular characters.

@@ryo-kai8587 i was joking if it wasn't clear enough, of course this is huge for clothing simulation, tho muscle deformation won't solve the issue with characters lying on the ground on the side or back, clipping will still occur, maybe it'll look more realistic depending on the type of game, but collision calculations still have to be consider and that's already demanding, anyways, this is huge

@@NicolasSilvaVasault I wasn't joking, and I was more talking about the body interacting with itself, which should be perfected before we worry about the body interacting with the environment. Getting breasts to lay properly in various positions via "gravity" instead of only being affected by changes in motion, etc.

I'd prefer a Netflix where every show isn't a dumpster fire of awfulness

@@steveleadbeater8662 as a 3d artist, i can't agree more lol. yeah, let's just not displace actual actors with 3d models.

The last demo has already left The Valley on the other side … the anger and hate felt just real and believable.

@@hcl8836 The uncanny valley needs to be resolved at some point. It looks amazing, but that's not the same as it looking "right."

too much abstract word salad to really establish the framing of your sentence structuring regarding the fetus membrane

Give thanks to AI. That's all they are using to take Unreal Engine to the next level and beyond.

​@The Troll of Us we did reach it by witnessing it

What? They abandoned that engine a decade ago.

@@kpo1233 you must've misread. I said the series itself as in Unreal 3. It would be nice to see epic bring that series back using the tech shown

@@kpo1233 He is talking about the game, not the engine.

@@ErikLiberty That won't happen because they only care about their money making machine - fortnite.

@@ErikLiberty thank you. Someone that knows how to read

Ok f u And ya this is impressive

Would love to, where you at?