New Model Army - Vengeance (1984) (Full Album) 

I was first introduced to NMA the same year I started playing bass- so yeah, Stuart Mortow is definitely an idol of mine!!

All of us here I think.

Please do check out Morgan Nicholls, as I vividly remember being stood with NMAs manager at a festival, and him being so blown away that he was way better than Morrow. x

Seriously. Learning other people's basslines has its challenges. Some of these songs I wouldn't even try.

Agree its great, but unmatched??? Not sure.

may be you havent, may be you was just to stoned to remember it...like most of us in the gooood old times 😎🤣🤣

Ha ha. I don't think i was drawn to the name. What a dope. First album I've heard in a long time that had me glued to every note.

+zombiella25 try guerra de cerdos

If you haven't already, check out Killing Joke. Stylistically similar and with a similarly honest perspective on the world

The entire underground punk/post-punk/deathrock movement is blooming with material like this.

@@HobosCrafting Killing Joke stylistically similar? I don't think so. If somebody wants to listen to similar NMA music they should look for Midnight Oil. And maybe U2, but only the years 1980 - 1987. Because Killing Joke never made long, narrative lyrics and their music sounded rather dark/goth. The songs of Midnight Oil and New Model Army can be played in everyday radio programme, Killing Joke songs not. [By the way, if you've never heard them and click trough their music on youtube: Midnight Oil changed their style very often: from 1978 - 1981 it was punk-rock (Album Head injuries, Midnight Oil, Place without a postcard), from 1982 - 1984 it was pop-rock with 80ies synthsounds (albums 10,9,8 and Red sails in the sunset), from 1987 - 1996 it was clean pop-rock without synthsounds (Diesel & Dust, Blue Sky Mining, Breathe, Earth& Sun), in 1998 with typical 90ies synthsounds (Redneck Wonderland) and in 2002 back to typical Midnight Oil tunes with Capricornia ]

@@flotteluft There are KJ songs that are radio friendly, Love Like Blood for example, though that is the only one you're likely to hear, unless you listen to BBC Radio 6 Music, which is actually the only place I've heard NMA on the radio, whereas I've heard KJ on a coupla different stations. And KJ is another band that changed their sound down the years, compare Brighter Than a Thousand Suns to Extremities, Dirt and Various Repressed Emotions(they like long album names btw), they barely sound like the same band. I do agree with you though that they're not really that similar, except the somewhat cynical lyrics.

cool dude, i was there in leeds that day, loved this album since 84. seen them a few times since, king georges hall, Blackburn, there from Bradford anyway

Your comment reminded me that my introduction to NMA was also through Sepultura. In 1992 MTV Brasil had a program where artists would choose and show their favorite videos, and one of videos Max and Igor chose was 51st State of America.

It is and that's so sad

on Running its amazing well this entire album in effect

notice me

Ditto!

Always

Still is Nov 2020...

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@@michaelbarrett3416 Quality people and diversity in culture is devolving and unraveling at too fast of a pace.

still is :(

He is a genius.

Are they English?

@@begonaalbaladejosaez4563 yes

@@begonaalbaladejosaez4563 Very

His dad was from canada. And sullivan/soulihan is irish

not punk, post-punk. I love that often in post-punk the bass guitar plays almost the most important role.

@@TheArrow1987 Oh so only 'half' punk then? Man, the media make the labels not the bands or the following. I'm not having a go I promise, and yes of course NMA came after the initial punk thing had moved on but really its all one and the same thing. Just different angles.

grr :) indeed an impressive lineup!

It reminds me of Bruce Foxton from The Jam. The Guitar is quite sparse. One of the most Bass Driven Albums i`ve heard. Top 20,maybe. Ha ha. I have got about 100 Albums that i would love to squeeze in to that group. Saw them at Glastonbury when this was Their only Album,so They played it all. Fucking Amazing

That bass tone was my bass player's for a few years when we were in our first couple bands. Fucking awesome.

J Battles that may well be worth something you know.

si killing joke

Paddy Campbell do tell mate..id love to hear the tale!!

In 1649 Oliver Cromwell came to Ireland with his New Model Army to hunt down Royalist sympathisers and, infamously, massacred many in my hometown of Drogheda and elsewhere.

...ahh i remember tat mate..first thing the radio interviewer shoved in justins face!!..lol

LOL!

I can't believe In all my years of loving slightly gothy post-punk, i slept on these guys. Consollation prize; this album is brand new to me.

* on every track

It's been 7 years. Since that summer time at least. People from the future are here to suggest adding it to your summer playlist again

Totally agree. Fantastic, unique playing.

Stu was great, but I watched Nelson many times and he was the better player. He had a better rapport with Rob aswell

No shame in that.

D Boucher I would love it, that is.

Still going strong

Probably exhausted from playing so fast

neil phillips And there ye are.. 😉 Still listen to this often, and you're right there too in my 80s brain Mr P. No Rest for the Wicked too..Kicked arse live this lot. ❤

I think the clog thing has faded into memory now. Except for the die-hards of a certain age perhaps.

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