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The boys are back with an emergency podcast to breakdown the first new models shown since 2022! Yes we said we'd be the first video up and yes Noobs beat us to it :'((
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@seanwhite5750
@seanwhite5750 5 месяцев назад
To answer your lore related points. The actual lore of the angmar wars actually barely involves arnor. Arnor essentially becomes the geographic place where the witch king and an alliance of riv loth and minas tirith duke it out. The arnor bit of it actually gets pretty much wiped out immediately. So to speculate on legions, the defenders of fornost could be the arnor one, but id expect the 'big' good one to be the host of the west with earnur, glorfindel minas tirith and riv, maybe with something for arathorn thrown in appendices style
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
God all these combinations is 🤤
@ClaymoreLinx
@ClaymoreLinx 5 месяцев назад
The Arnor bit holds out for years. The reason Gondor can't come help is because of the Great Plague. Still your legion analyses are probably accurate.
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 5 месяцев назад
Whaaaat? Wiped out Immediately??? The war between Arnor and Angmar goes on for ≈ 800 years 😂. Only Rhudaur gets taken over very fast.
@ryanhenderson225
@ryanhenderson225 5 месяцев назад
I know I said this for the Last Alliance of Newbs and Men video, but the speed and gusto with which you guys put out this video is impressive and shows your dedication to the community and the hobby!
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Haha yes I'm not sure this comment will get 20 likes like the one on their video did 😁 but appreciate you! We were 1 hour behind them 🥲🥲
@games-or7ig
@games-or7ig 5 месяцев назад
Im actually fluent in Elvish, the text says "Goblintown Archers"
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Emergency pod 3 incoming!!
@RicovaUK
@RicovaUK 5 месяцев назад
If you use a Royal Rohan Guard as a basis (F4 D6, Tspear, Fearless) that is 17pts, so I would expect 16 or 17pts and not as low as 14 (+5 for horse, +1 for war spear). maybe it could be 15pts but I think 16 sounds right to me, given the low courage. As for lore at this time and interesting stuff that could be involved, Arvedui was in possession of 2 Palantir and the ring of barahir so the LL could focus on empowering him to give Arnor an actual hero. Cirdan and Glorfindel were indeed about at this time. There was also at the same-ish time a war between Gondor and Khand/Harad that prevented Gondor aiding Arnor, leading to the fall, this could be an area to make an LL using King of Men Gondor and Khand/Harad combo. Also Glorfindel teamed up with Gondor after the fall of Arnor to destroy the WK, so that is another LL that could be explored (Riv+Gondor). Honestly a good place to start with and where I bet GW is getting at least some of their ideas is the BFME2 expansion, as it covers this entire era.
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Yep 16 seems like a good shout! Really hoping elves are included in the LL's - and it's quite likely Gondor will be involved in some respect as well by the sound of it!
@RicovaUK
@RicovaUK 5 месяцев назад
@@GollumGamers Yeah I would expect (hope) maybe a 2-pack of Eärnur (the last king of Gondor before it passed to the Stewards) and Mardil (the first Steward who ruled afterwards) as they were both at the Battle of Fornost. akin to the hero packs they have done before. and that be enough for Gondor.
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
@@RicovaUK Yep like how they got a whole new LL purely by releasing Razgush in Defence of the North
@1998hazard
@1998hazard 5 месяцев назад
One legendary legion I'd like to see is the Sacking of Angmar where Earnur (King of Gondor) and Glorfindel defeated the Witch King
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
I'm praying for the elves to be included in this supplement!
@princev8283
@princev8283 5 месяцев назад
@@GollumGamers same praying, they were so left out last time
@masterballuk6780
@masterballuk6780 5 месяцев назад
Maybe you should go find a certain ranger who grew up in rivendell
@timelwess7787
@timelwess7787 5 месяцев назад
Female Arnor hero. Potentially arvenduis wife. Or something like that. That's what I've been suggesting for a fair while.
@alexfoster5876
@alexfoster5876 5 месяцев назад
I think it will be similar to Dale or erebor reclaimed. New heroes that change the timeline of when you play Arnor. I think the cav will be 14 or 15 points as well. MT knights are very similar starting at 13 points with one less fight, one more courage and no shield after all.
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Yeah fair points all round - but the natural F4 is also a big difference!
@alexfoster5876
@alexfoster5876 5 месяцев назад
@GollumGamers it is usually a single point for the extra fight value though, and one for the courage. So with standard construction they do cancel out. Unless GW give them a special rule like "treat X hero as a banner" or even "+1F within X range of X hero" that would increase their points. The dwarf cav is 20 for +1S +2C and an armoured (if slower) mount. I think the black dragon Kataphracts are just a tad overpriced to use as a comparison.
@Eiweing
@Eiweing 5 месяцев назад
Due to the very marked WHO in the text, I predict that we are seeing an Anorian Knight hero. I speculate that it will be a new character :) I do not believe that the Arnor captain will be mounted, because Arnor as an army and thematic choice, is not exactly a force know for its cavalry. It would also change the classical Arnor playstyle, and I don't think this is about changing it, but adding to it :)
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
A new named hero with say three might would be great! I'd personally prefer if it were mounted - something like Hurin
@Eiweing
@Eiweing 4 месяца назад
@@GollumGamers My prediction came true ;)
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 4 месяца назад
@@Eiweing Not all of it ;) as the captain is indeed mounted! :D
@Eiweing
@Eiweing 4 месяца назад
@@GollumGamers I did say a knight hero. To me that imply that he is mounted, as the troops are :)
@ClaymoreLinx
@ClaymoreLinx 5 месяцев назад
Noobs was first!
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
I did acknowledge our failure in the description and in all the Facebook posts 🥲 Worst bit is that I actually had it all ready to go but I was messing around with the thumbnail 😂
@Njarl92
@Njarl92 5 месяцев назад
I rekon it'll be a New Arnor character. Possibly Aranarth (Averduii's son) or a G.W created character (somthing along the lines of Hurin like character)
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Also hoping for a new named hero of some description!
@princev8283
@princev8283 5 месяцев назад
Ofcourse plastics of other arnor will come back, because peeps needs to collect armies
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Definitely won't be plastic which is a big shame - but they'll defo release the old metal models in a MTO!
@intothewestpodcast
@intothewestpodcast 5 месяцев назад
@Eliott you said seeing us rant about the Feb FAQ for 40 mins was unbelieveable but seeing you guys go on 25 mins about a 500 word article is truly inspiring! Can't wait to see a monthly emergency pod up until Dec ;)
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
We follow where you lead!! 😂😁 Oh yes the emergency pods will flow that's for sure 😎
@EntmootVideos
@EntmootVideos 5 месяцев назад
I reckon they’ll be 15/16pts personally they have the hatred, the king and malbeth buffs make them a good deal at either of those points levels and they bring so much to the army I’d be amazed at 14pts
@EntmootVideos
@EntmootVideos 5 месяцев назад
On LLs, I reckon we’re going to get new arnor heroes, and we could potentially be looking at a Dale style makeover of a different era? Angmar will surely have a Burhdur centric legion? The current spooky Angmar has been done
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
@@EntmootVideos Personally I'd love more spooky Angmar stuff! Hound/Bat/other new monster profiles etc would be so cool!
@EntmootVideos
@EntmootVideos 5 месяцев назад
I reckon the banner will be a captain/hero of arnor. It’s quite clearly Arnor. Anarion is intriguing but he and Isildur ruled Gondor while Elendil ruled Arnor so I think Anarion linked to Arnor wouldn’t make as much sense. because Elendil has no banner/lance, I reckon we’re looking at Arnorian heroes
@tedarnoldmoore
@tedarnoldmoore 5 месяцев назад
you give the arnor legendary legion glorfindel and maybe some rivendell, also where is my defenders of lothlorien legion if they get released in pairs
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
A Loth, Arnor and Angmar LL in the same book would be 🤤
@HPugwash
@HPugwash 5 месяцев назад
Teaser is the royal palanquin of Arnor
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
This gen made me laugh 😂
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 5 месяцев назад
You have to remember that the Easterling cataphract has an Armored Horse. And for some reason +1d on a horse makes the model 2-3 points more expensiv 😂
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Yes having the natural D5 is definitely really good!
@doubleoblit
@doubleoblit 4 месяца назад
Or, the models are costed based on how good they are rather than some sort of strict but defective formula.
@joshcoles1255
@joshcoles1255 5 месяцев назад
With the teaser - I’d rather we got a warrior pack like we got with the Easterling black dragons (which included a banner option) then just a re release of the old metal arbor infantry. I hope we see some mix of high elves and arnor for LL’s. Glorfindel Cirdan and Elrond all fight in the wars with Angmar so would be cool to see what they do with that.
@GollumGamers
@GollumGamers 5 месяцев назад
Yep that would have been cool! And right yes I did think so - I imagine the elves will definitely be playing a role in the supplement one way or another then!
@TimothyHawn
@TimothyHawn 5 месяцев назад
Anárion was the high king of Arnor, so it is definitely possible that it could be him. Maybe he can be used in both lists, and be a hero of legend in Arnor.
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