NEW Odrysian Kingdom! - Faction Overview - Divide Et Impera (1.3) - Total War Rome 2 

Today we check out the Odrysian Kingdom again due to their recent major changes in the 1.3 DeI Update! I will be covering ALL other barbarian factions with this update and I'll redo any other overviews that warrant a redo :) What faction do you want to see next??

Great overview, as always. Another hidden strength of the odrysians in early game is the fact that the javelinmen have 9 ammo, as opposed to the standard 6. All in all one of the most fun factions imo, tons of solid units

I feel more attention should be given to unit speed. Ideally, the long spear units with their high speed should be used as cavalry support to help bog down any enemy cavalry trying to engage yours.

I'll add in a few corrections/comments: As I mentioned the other day in a different video (Carthage overview), non-greek factions that have greek thureos/thorax reforms do not have imperium requirements but turn number (60 for thureos 140 for thorax) The Rhomphaia warriors (early ones) are a pre-reform unit, for some reason it appears they were erroneusly slated as thureos reform unit on the unit DB, but they are available as soon as you get the right barracks level. On the noble rhomphaia warriors, they are general exclusive as of 1.3 since all rhomphaia warrior units have been brought up to class 1 (elites) wheras originally it was just the noble units that had that classification. So I believe it was the best way to keep them while not having them be totally redundant. The reason why alot of Thracian melee infantry have high weapon damage, ap damage and elephant bonuses is due to their weapon being the Sica (a curved sword/dagger like weapon) basically like the dacian falx but smaller. That weapon tends to allow for units to have high damage and a broad range of bonuses especially against elephants. On the matter of Thracian melee troops, the footmen are not great sure but they're really the best you have in the early game other than the Dii (pronounced more like Dee-ee) but those are available a little later into the game and are somewhat pricier also coming from a higher tier group (class 2 - warriors). The footmen are class 3 infantry (freemen) and when reforms hit they do upgrade into thureos swords. Prior to 1.3 they were from your warriors class amd you'd basically phase them out for thureos swords once reforms hit so they are kinda better now than they were in the past. The thorax swords are I believe an upgrade on the thureos although they do go up a pop tier (so they go from freemen to warriors). Regarding peltasts, yes they're named for their shields which in singular would be in Greek πέλτη (péltē) and Pelta in Latin, for plurals it would be in Greek πέλται (Péltai) in Latin Peltae (similar pronunciation to Greek). I'll add that I think the main role for the long spear peltats (and their upgraded equivelent thureophoroi) is that they're meant to better fight agaisnt cavalry hence their high speed of 4 and lack of major formations (as well as I can't say for sure if the Thracians were known for putting their troops into dence wall formations like the Greeks). I think the best way to look at the the long spear troops is to take their names (peltasts and thureophoroi) as more literal meanings of the names and not see them much as being a part of the whole peltats/thureos troops. That is to say that I don't believe the long-spear thureophoroi are meant to be exactly a unit of thureos spears, but rather long-speared infantry bearing thureoi shields (the oval shield they're equipped with). The same goes for the Peltasts which are long-speared infantry with Péltai shields hence the Peltast label. I don't think the colonist pikemen/hoplites are reform locked, my playthrough has nothing be recalled on them being as such plus unit db has them be pre-reformed, the hoplites do turn into Thorax spears when thorax reforms hit, that I'm aware of.

The long spear peltasts were crucial for me early game. I got into a lot of wars, so most of my money was spent on armies and I bought alot of them. They are fast enough to use on the flanks to catch enemy cav and they are strong enough for Frontline at the beginning.

I like being able to see the reforms in the groups! The only word of advice I'd give for choosing your general is that you're lacking in good long range skirmisher options and I found early on when I don't have really good cavalry yet it's nice to get the mounted general to counter archers and slingers. But later on in the campaign it's an amazing unit to have!

A lot of work for you again to create the reviews on all updated factions but a lot of fun for us again to watch them too.😆 I must admit that I was already waiting for your updates. Thanks again! 😊

Great to see factions overview return!

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Great bro all the best cam you video a campaigns with Odryssian !

Nice to see my favorite faction getting reworked hehehe. Really nice content man

Good job dude.

Awesome! Now please make a top 10 unit tier list of units that are recruited from neither the settlements nor the Barracks building chains!

Loving the new look.

Great vid I would like to see Dacia , and maybe a campaign with your new style dei or 1212ad hahahaha thank you

The romphaia generals are a must early especially for wall battles. They will rack up the kills fast.

Sweet vid bro!

Nice video. Love Dei!

Hello 👋 m8 how about all of them again ? Alot has changed since you started make those vids and your own style of presentation did changed so I guess people will love the make them again 😊personally i want Gaete properly covered 🤪 since is kinda unique faction playstile

Hey man, I see that in your main menu-faction selection-screen you have two more culture-groups than I have in my game. Do you have any submods that unlock additional factions or something?

perfect timing

I know I'm super late to the party and this might be common knowledge by now, but regarding "Reform the line" supposedly not making a difference: For it to work, you don't just need to have the Phalanx formation active, but also the regular battle formation (such as line/column etc). When I assign all my pikes to a separate group with a simple locked line formation, they effectively reform the line upon using the ability.

could you do a different battle map for the unit displays in the future? maybe a flatter one or something prettier like with grass?

I just had time to watch the verdict but in my campaign, I had a very rough time with my first two population classes because you need the warrior class for basically every single unit that is not trash tier. Especially when you make Thrace your money province which I will never be able to resist when it is your home province, the population will dwindle very quickly. Using elite units right from the get go is very bad for the mid to late game, when there is not really any place you can get your population from except Dacia which is not necessarily fun to subdue when your focus is elsewhere. Getting a food province in Anatolia also doesn't guarantee supply lines since that crossing prevents any supply chain and it only goes through the harbors. I really love to play the Triballi because they have a much better starting position. Much easier diplomacy because you haven't met many of the factions yet and you can get Thrace quicker and thus even be able to snatch Appollonia before the Romans take it. The Odrysians or any other Thracian faction will not be able to achieve that. The only disadvantage is the -10% melee defense for all units which is quite annoying imo.

People playing WH3....while I haven't stopped playing Rome 2. DEI and Rome 2 are still is the best of the series

High-key absolutely addicted to the Odrysian Kingdom....i use the all diplomacy options mod to make client statez/satrapies... (cough cough Make Macedon a satrap ASAP) from a barbarian tribe to imperial real quick.

Never played this faction. I usually only play greek or roman factions. I really should give these guys a try

1.3 is already out of beta fam been for almost a week. and as i typed this i realized this is video made at an older date and i'm only 0:54 secs into the video hahaha

14:36 you holding up ok my guy?

I personally miss melee cav units that Odrysians had before update. 52 moral, 41 armor, yes only 9 attack, 15 defense and rest of stats were stadart, but they had 120 men in unit. In prolong fights they could have stood against some cataphracts and most shock cavs.. As I see it, Odrysians got weaker in this last patch..

Has their lovely cavalry gone, the solid starting ones with javelins and can fight in combat really well, wearing awesome helmets... :(

I'm just going to go out and say it. Thracians are the best barbarians. 😎 Also, am I the only one who thinks it's crazy that a barbarian faction has access to hoplites and..... PIKEMEN. (!!!!) Are they even considered barbarians at this point (in the context of their military and the game I mean)? They are apparently capable of waging war like a Greek city state LOL.

Whats the name of the mod for building incons looks great

ROME FACTION, plz!

i feel my odrysian kingdom was butchered.