Stephen Morris may well be the most underrated drummer in the known universe. His performance on this on for example is just epic... and as much as he's consistently on point, Bernard and Gilian fuck this one up big time. 😂
@@stupidlogic2987i used to play drums a lot. I wouldn't want to play on coke. I like being sober and focused so i can play my best. With coke you're feeling too great to care about making mistakes. But everyone's playing style is different
Been listening to JD/NO since the 80s. They are awesome even when they sound shite. No band could ever pull this off so well... they look like they were hijacked on their way to the beach and forced to play this. Their legend continues to grow in 2024...
Apparently they had come up from south west England (a proper trek in those days) to central London that morning and arrived stressed out with moments to spare before they went live on national radio (Radio 1). By all accounts Bernard was a little, er, tense - as evidenced here. I wouldn't want to have been that orange foam mic cover that day.
It comes out in his playing and signing. This is the version that I heard first. So now when I hear the album version I feel like it's missing something.
Ok, it’s me, and I gotta set things straight here. Some of ya sayin’ the drummer’s got some weird technique? Bloody hell! The drummer’s a proper genius, bangin’ away faster than a woodpecker on a redwine rush. Fcking awesome, I’m tellin’ ya. And that lad in the white boxers, smashing the mic cover. fcking brilliant, that guy ! Voice smooth as butter, warm as a cuppa, and on the synth? Mate’s a bloody wizard. He’s squeezin’ 16 polyphonic outta a monophonic toy piano, makin’ the maddest strings and leads. Show a bit more respect for these geniuses, yeah? Right, that’s me done.
In his book Fast Forward, Stephen described the session as both fantastic and hideous, and gloriously chaotic. Bernard was incandescent. The planned session had to abandoned due to technical problems, so Hooky and Stephen hastily put a set list together none of which Bernard felt like playing.
He was/is actually a great guitarist - check out his playing in Joy Division. Very different sound and technique. Like Stephen the drummer, they totally changed their playing style after Ian's death.
This actually isn’t true. Those who say that Bernard Sumner couldn’t play are just retarded. Look at almost any JD/NO song, and he very clearly understands musical concepts.
I remember listening to this live. Barney was so pissed off with the neverending problems they had with the sound. You can see how angry he was on this.
I remember seeing another upload of this where there were more obvious shots of Gillian raising her eyebrow/staring as Bernard messes things up or (as here around 3:30) deliberately slurs the lyrics. This session was done under a great deal of stress, hardware flaws and at very short notice etc.
In Brazilian Portuguese we have an expression: "Na força do ódio" (meaning something like "with anger as a driving force"), and I think it describes perfectly this performance
exatamente KKKKKKKKKKKKKK mas ainda assim, amo new order, o bernard sumner nunca foi dos melhores em quesito de técnica, mas mesmo assim fazia ótimas canções
In English we often ask people who seem annoyed “who pissed in your cornflakes?” I really want to know who pissed in Bernard’s breakfast cereal before this performance😆
@@bigbowlowrong4694 I read in Hook's memoirs that they were late cos of traffic or something because they had been enjoying a great holiday or something. Hookie was pro-active and was there before the rest of the band. That's why Sumner is wearing shorts. Something like that.
Read in Steve Morris"s autobiography that they were going to do Blue Monday and perfect kiss together, but the technology let them down. They travelled from Devon on a bank holiday and got stuck in traffic most of the day. Arrived a few minutes before the session, and Bernard was not a happy man.
Gillian looks like she's going to iron their clothes Bernard looks like he played tennis Stephen and Peter are the unstoppable and consistent ones here
@@gklansky31 It's not that she's a woman. It's the way she looks up from her iron when she realizes Bernard is slurring and rushing the lyrics on purpose. 3:31
The Gillian joke killed me! She really does look like she's gonna iron their clothes! 😭 As chaotic as this performance was, it still came out brilliant and beautiful. That's what makes music, emotion, drive, incoordination. New order even at the heat of the moment always pulls it off!
39 years later and that just blew me away - I always felt this was the very best New Order song after Blue Monday which was sadly so overplayed back in the day, but probably because it was so groundbreaking and amazing at the time?
I got to see New Order headline a show that had the Sugarcubes open and Public Image Ltd. in between. It was 1989, I was in early high school. A friend got us EXCELLENT seats. Dinar Örn wore a latex bathing cap. John Lydon opened his set with “Warrior.”
Hard to believe that this New Order BBC session went out live on both TV and radio as part of a BBC 2 music Marathon circa summer 1984 I remember watching and video taping parts of it .... Full promo video clips were shown including full length Meat loaf vids people must remember MTV was in its infancy and sattalite tv was not yet available so this Marathon was something to behold ... NO "Age of consent" classic 😎👍.
Satellite TV had already arrived, I remember watching both MTV, Sky Channnel and CNN from Sweden in 1983-84 (my home quarter was among the earliest test districts in the country for cable and regular satellite TV). We were also able to see West German TV, even a Soviet satellite channel! 🙂 Also, satellite marathon live broadcasts had been around since the 1970s - Rockpalast's all-night gigs from Germany for example. Or the Olympics. I really doubt that this half messed-up performance was broadcast live on TV. I think it's a BBC radio performance that was filmed just for documentation purposes.
Yes, it was a hot summer day (hence the clothing) and I gather they'd had to drive to London from about Cornwall, got stuck in traffic and were late and pissed off. But if you want cold professionalism. then New Order are not your band. Their aggression makes this.
Oh, I'd thought this was a BBC Radio One performance (like, John Peel sessions) and had only been filmed for documentation purposes. Looks odd to be broadcasting something like this on tv.
@@louise_rose I think you are right. Usually when people claim in the RU-vid comments to have "been there," they are bs-ing in a weird, sociopathic attempt to get likes.
New Order session went out from Broadcasting house BBC London as part of BBC 2 Rock around the clock ...25th August 1984 ... New Order session "Sooner than you think" "Age of consent" "Blue Monday" "In a lonely place" "Temptation" went out as a simulcast between BBC radio 1 and BBC 2 TV etc 😎👍 ....
I've seen hundreds of live bands, maybe in the thousands. I've seen them play bars, theatres, and drive ins. I've seen it all. But, this video with this band, during that time, is a MASTERPIECE of music. I would rank it in the top 3 all time best video's or musical moments in the history of music. It's not just the sounds, the voice, nor nothing specific. It's everything. Every piece, every note, everything was so perfect, that even Perfect is not a good word to describe it. That moment will live in infamy. By the way, I saw New Order in Dallas, Texas, and they sucked so bad, they got Booo'd off the stage and left within 3 songs. Think about that for a moment.
Saw them at the Hollywood Bowl and honestly enjoyed Pet shop boys performance more. New Order needs to stop altering their songs, and need to turn the fucking bass up!
They had some kind of trouble with the wiring at the Beeb's studio, or something missing around their equipment here - the session was set up very fast. practically from one day to the next, and the logistics were kinda haphazard - that's the reason for the element of stress in this one. I don't recall all the specific details but there was some element of f''k-up around the hardware at this session. And they knew they wouldn't get to do any overdubs, these radio performances are meant to be "authentic live in the studio".
I wouldn't want the concert to sound like the record. saw them in 1983 and it was a disaster. but id rather see that then listen to Coldplay prestine boredom.
Read Stephen morris book volune 2 fast forward. Apparently they had spent hours programming all the drum machines and sequencers. Had a ridiculous drive up from st.Austell. and the floppy discs failed. Everything thry programmed didn’t work. You can dee their frustrations and Barney yelling faster to stephen. All the little looks of insecurity and panic
Here is the re-born changing New Order which escapes from the Joy Division era and gently slides towards the dancefloors... It's something unachieved, the drums are just a metronome, hypnotic... The bass is a wall... The voice is dramatic, and the guitar uncertain... The keyboards, well, I prefer without. A totally imperfect song, full of errors, but which has its own charm.
