The complete session recorded by New Order on 26 January 1981 for the John Peel show on BBC Radio 1 and broadcast on 16 February 1981. Tracklist: 1. Truth (0:07) 2. Senses (4:27) 3. I.C.B. (8:52) 4. Dreams Never End (14:12)
This period is the best either band ever was. Sure Joy Division were great and New Order were also great, but at this point it was truly a melding of both bands. We get two for one. There is equal amounts of Joy Division in this and New Order in this. Two phenomenal bands in one.
I thought I read once that the foundations for ICB & Dreams Never End were done as Joy Division. I hate to agree with your statement because I am a true JD devotee, but it is the truth.
Well summed, PrincePurple. This does sound very transitional (which to me is a good thing). I’ve always been a much bigger Joy Division fan than a New Order fan (though I have heaps of respect for N.O.), and these recordings tap very satisfyingly into that particular nerve.
Personally, I really appreciate New Order when they broke free from the long shadow cast by Joy Division. Most of the early stuff (which I also appreciate), it seems like they still thought of themselves as a mere extension of JD. Also a bit of denial as the first step in the grieving process is evident in the early stuff. When they were fully immersed in the grief, regret and exorcising the ghost of Ian Curtis, they were at their most powerful and moving. In that process, they found their own unique sound imo.
I play Joy Division all the time. Their music's been a vital oart of my life since the late 70s. I never liked New Order with the same intensity but the album "Movement" is still an emotional joy that their other albums never were for me. Music can be so individual and personal as well as being popular, all encompassing and àppealing to many at the same time ✌️
made me laugh, did the same, doing the same. not just nostalgia, something else as well, music had a lot of feeling then that somehow seems diferent from the feeling in music now. maybe captivating? and it hasn't let go yet?
loopy Ruane - There’s still some great and very honest music being made today. It’s just harder to find. You have to really search and unfortunately sift through a lot of horrible dreck to find it. The big difference between then and now, is that back then there was a cohesive movement taking place, full of new and interesting bands. You’d discover one, and it would open the door for 20 more. Today, the bands are more isolated, and fewer and further between... but they are out there. It doesn’t all have to be nostalgia.
@@Brewzerr can you mention one band name please?? last band that i found that really showed me a new way of music was arcade fire ,, before that i can mention at least 30 band that was a delight to listen!!
This was SO far ahead of its time. As I'm a Kiwi (New Zealander) I have never forgotten entering a bit of a gathering of sorts with a few friends at a hockey/football club after match function around when Blue Monday was released in '83. It (Blue Monday) was playing over the stereo and virtually no one was dancing to it as it just totally seemed to blow people's minds. So (again) I danced by myself to it...think I may have been a wee bit high and the experience was unique - as I say I have never forgotten it.
@@MrBrindleStyle Oh wow that's interesting to learn. Where was the gig? Hope you don't mind me browsing your YT & web page and wow awesome art! Will browse your webpage in more detail later. Did you follow Joy Division at all? I love them! They tended to blow a few minds down here in Invercargill during those late 70s & early 80s. A few friends described their music as 'depressing'...so I had to learn them and said 'sorry it's not depressing, rather it's real'...
Gig was at the student union hall up at Vic uni... a good night. The following year (?) The fall played their hex induction tour... two drummers, one of my favorite albums of theirs, that was a party ...
@@tenakura The Fall...what a loose-as crew. Vocalist/leader Mark E. Smith could sure blow people's minds. Intelligent dude. As I type this I am listening to a song Deer Park [Live, Mainstreet, Auckland, New Zealand, 20 August 1982] part of The Fall's Hex Enduction Hour Tour of NZ. Next song has come up it's called The Classical [Live, Mainstreet, Auckland, New Zealand, 20 August 1982]. I've just imagined combining The Pogues vocalist Shane McGowan, Sex Pistols' Johnny Rotten, Tom Waits, and The Fall's Mark E. Smith singing together a few favorite songs of theirs....could make for some interesting vocals.
I thought I'd heard all JD and NO Peel sessions, buy this one had slipped by me. Great versions of the Movement tracks. Love that album, a brooding, atmospheric masterpiece.
A lovely surprise that they moved on into a new line up and began to record again. That 40 year old photo of Stephen and Gillian looking fresh faced and happy looking at the camera and even Peter Hook seemed well.
I’ve not researched it, but is there a fair bit of influence from Krautrock, Kraftwerk, Neu! in their overall sound? Wouldn’t have been well-known in U.K. at the time. I certainly wasn’t aware of how influential German industrial music was to the U.K. scene for some emerging artists in the 70s. (Now, in my 60s, I see how loved Kraftwerk is. I was so sad to hear of Florian Schneider’s death in, I think, 2021? I recall I had a long drive scheduled & just set the iPod to play everything I had by Kraftwerk. Memorable. So many brilliant bands, JD & NO included).
This is priceless.....what joy divisions next step would've been,that said..i currently regard N.O's sesh. over J.D's peel-sesh....and i will kill for jd,most inflentual music evaaaaaaaaa....!
I didn't really care for New Order in the mid 80's until I heard their earlier Peel Sessions. I still think this is far superior to their later electro pop.
This is first time I had ever heard NO. A friends older brother had a Bootleg 7” EP of this peel session. I heard some of the vinyl bootlegs of New Order from the first few years was actually done on the sly by Rob as way of getting cash for the band. I don’t know how true that is. Anyway I got to see them at Deeside Futurama in September 1982. Blew my mind... they had a few songs from PCL by then.
+David Morgan I remember buying the cassette which only contained four tracks and being blown away by it. Now, over 30 years later I find there was actually more! Great surprise and yes, agreed, better than album versions.
Agreed. I have a ton of respect for their decision to move forward and find their own sound that would distinguish them from Ian’s influence, but the fact is that the darker, moodier atmosphere lends a depth to the music that was sorely missed in later years. In other words, this is simply better. Much better.
@@timneave3240 JD sounds large and was massively influential cult band. Dozens of bands listened them and took the same vein. Early NO was very experimental but awkward group with JD fame and found its own path some years later.
I bought Movement after hearing "Everything's Gone Green" and it was disappointing..slow..moody..downbeat..gloomy..still a good listen! New Order released their best songs on E.P.
Ian Curtis is very missed at this point of time. The band is just foundering around. Although Dreams Never End is a sure hit. Later they will move on to a new sound.
Back in the early '80s, when I was a young teenager, I thought Hooky looked "old" and "parental"(probably because of the beard). But, now that I'm in my late forties.......I look at images of Hooky back then and think, "Wow!! He was so good looking!!"
