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Pico has announced their brand new VR headset: the Pico 4 Ultra! Can the Pico 4 successor beat the Quest 3 and take the VR standalone crown? In this video we are checking out the specs and whatever we learned from the China launch event!
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@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
What do you think about the Pico 4 Ultra? Do you consider this over the Quest 3? If yes why? If no, why not?
@PuppetMasterdaath144
@PuppetMasterdaath144 Месяц назад
I might be getting this, I just need to know more about it in a definitive way
@smsheard
@smsheard Месяц назад
Would depend on quality of screens and lenses and also the field of view.
@mitcherny6965
@mitcherny6965 Месяц назад
I hate the fact there is no 3.5 headphone jack. ALL PROPER VR HEASETS HAVE A 3.5mm HEADPHONE JACK!!! HELLO??? CHINA??? STOP BEING STUPID!!!
@sosolam793
@sosolam793 Месяц назад
I think that on the meta quest 3 there is much more games and experiences in vr than on the pico ultra. The pico is great for those who want de work or do fitness . But for gaming i think the meta quest 3 is way better .
@superbueno1769
@superbueno1769 Месяц назад
I would like it because are new
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb Месяц назад
Great news !! Pico is back again !! Competition is definitively the best thing that can happen to VR !!!
@kcchiefsproductions8687
@kcchiefsproductions8687 Месяц назад
Any sort of momentum to get the big ball rollin
@richieb1990
@richieb1990 12 дней назад
Yet it's crap
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb 12 дней назад
@@richieb1990 The the Quest3 is even more crap, but still less crapid than your stupid comment!
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb Месяц назад
Better in Pico4 Ultra compared to Quest3: - 12 GB RAM (+ 4GB)!! - higher resolution of the MR cameras!! - slightly higher display resolution! 20.8 vs 20.08 PPD (2160:104 vs 2208:110) - higher rendering resolution!! - lighter than Quest3 - much better binocular overlap!! - motorized IPD adjustment - better comfort, much better balanced headset (not a very cheap strap as in Quest3) - WiFi 7 - higher battery capacity - fast charging - very affordable motion trackers - not a closed ecosystem What is worse: - worse lenses (more glare) - less games in the Pico Store (but still more than enough for any gamer!!!!) What I hoped for: - Resolution 2.5x2.5k - Eye tracking - new improved lenses (less glare) - DP
@unotoli
@unotoli Месяц назад
Thanks for a good summary. It's all good, at least for a competition and as an engineering practice, but one year late.. don't you think?
@jmlibre4468
@jmlibre4468 Месяц назад
@@unotoli rumors stated that meta had a year of exclusiveness over the chip. Don't know if that's true but is curious that some manufactures have started launching after a year.
@jmlibre4468
@jmlibre4468 Месяц назад
Yeah, i agree is a better headset hardware wise.
@ToffaneloChauffard
@ToffaneloChauffard Месяц назад
These + don't add: you have a set for PCVR only and a set for embedded only. For embedded, you have much less games overall and it won't change (Pico loses exclusive games). For PCVR, everything useful to embedded is useless. Wifi 7 may be a good addition but it does not change a lot from what Q3 has: it's the very same chipset.Useful video bandwidth is usually much less than 500Mb/s and you have diminushing games over 200 due to latency. Problem is: lenses are much better on the Q3, and it really makes all the visual experience. Real pro: a decent strap but Q3 users know they have to buy aftermarket. The Pico is on US embargo and conversely: most users won't know about it anyways, and some will simply not manage to buy it: that's why embedded games dont take off.
@zloidooraque0
@zloidooraque0 24 дня назад
isn't Q3 120hz? 90 vs 120hz is big difference. and they havn't said is it IPS or OLED.
@technikchegger7228
@technikchegger7228 Месяц назад
I hope MRTV can show something like this exclusively and without embargo next time. With this expertise, this should be mandatory for manufacturers.
@unotoli
@unotoli Месяц назад
No DP, no eye tracking, no oled? Pass
@zerocool6452
@zerocool6452 Месяц назад
No DP is a given, we can give up on that on these kind of headsets. Eye and face tracking would have been nice tho not even the enterprise model seem to have it which I find weird.
@Eskoxo
@Eskoxo Месяц назад
@@zerocool6452 DP trough usb -c is even included on most cheap laptops their doing it to save a dollar at most it's dumb
@mitcherny6965
@mitcherny6965 Месяц назад
No 3.5 headphone jack.
@beanos2287
@beanos2287 Месяц назад
​@zerocool6452 no DP is not a given. The Pico Neo 3 Link proved that point. DP is extremely important for PCVR players.
@mitcherny6965
@mitcherny6965 Месяц назад
@@beanos2287 Just buy a PSVR2 then and be happy...
@user.asleep
@user.asleep Месяц назад
I wish they'd just release their next gen headset with higher res screens like 2880x2880 or something
@raeldor
@raeldor Месяц назад
This is definitely a buy for me. I hoped the lenses would have less aberration towards the edge on the new model though :(. I love the Quest 3, but it's too front heavy. Meta really dropped the ball not shifting some weight to the back.
@OrgathmTech
@OrgathmTech Месяц назад
12 megabytes? Thats 20 years ago 😂
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
haha, right. I mis-spoke. :) MEEEEEGA BYTE!!! :)
@TheRedImposter
@TheRedImposter Месяц назад
THERE THEY ARE MEGABYTEEE 😅
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Месяц назад
So is the 2.3 PPD 😆 We can all make mistakes!
@OrgathmTech
@OrgathmTech Месяц назад
Just by the way, "3 gigabyte per second" or 3 gigabits wifi router? 6:40 😀 just another one
@fredericfamso9572
@fredericfamso9572 Месяц назад
We all want micro oled and are ready to pay more for it. Why do these companies still put out lcd panels ?
@sephiroth4543
@sephiroth4543 Месяц назад
I couldn't have put it any better
@kawafahra
@kawafahra Месяц назад
Because they want revenue, and high quality lcds are cheap. Expensive oleds in mass production > way less revenue. You gotta save for a Pimax, or wait some more years.
@alanwilkinson7605
@alanwilkinson7605 Месяц назад
Get a psvr2
@fredericfamso9572
@fredericfamso9572 Месяц назад
@@alanwilkinson7605 I did and it's too blurry. No way back after tasting varjo aero/crystal resolution. Even with this fantastic oled contrast. Waiting now for a high resolution micro oled like the Crystal Super. No doubt that high resolution + micro oled will be amazing
@Taha-Aamamou
@Taha-Aamamou 23 дня назад
Lcd with a brightness adaptation like the new feature in quest 3 is a banger its like something inbetween lcd and oled
@Zeeflyboy
@Zeeflyboy Месяц назад
Loved my pico 4 but the software catalog just didn't carry the same punch as the quest 3. I think the biggest issue with these standalone headsets in general is how you end up tied into their ecosystem and potentially have to rebuy games you already own - that's where PCVR and steam etc have a huge advantage, I know that whatever I buy on steam will work with whatever future PCVR headset I buy.
@piggehdeluxe
@piggehdeluxe Месяц назад
I want more oled vr headsets, ba k in the htc vive days i have never gone back to lcds, my pc monitors my tvs all oled just my q3 is lcd, come on industry give ous more high res oleds vr headsets
@aarongarcia2911
@aarongarcia2911 Месяц назад
Isn't the PSVR2 OLED?
@ivana6141
@ivana6141 Месяц назад
​@aarongarcia2911 yes it is but the screen persistence is messed up and smears. On pc the smearing is less for some odd reason.
@aarongarcia2911
@aarongarcia2911 Месяц назад
@@ivana6141 PSVR2 is PCVR too
@ivana6141
@ivana6141 Месяц назад
@@aarongarcia2911 i know I use mine on pc
@YoungMoneyFuture
@YoungMoneyFuture Месяц назад
We need eye tracking as a standard by now
@ThinCrustPizzzza
@ThinCrustPizzzza Месяц назад
No we don’t.
@HeyNitroNova
@HeyNitroNova Месяц назад
​@@ThinCrustPizzzza it's a cool feature but if the quest 3 had it, it'd be starting at $800 probably
@ThinCrustPizzzza
@ThinCrustPizzzza Месяц назад
@@HeyNitroNova I disagree
@HeyNitroNova
@HeyNitroNova Месяц назад
@@ThinCrustPizzzza there's definitely a reason it's not mainstream in VR headsets, but it has some use cases.
@ThinCrustPizzzza
@ThinCrustPizzzza 29 дней назад
@@HeyNitroNova I disagree again
@ubarwolfie1689
@ubarwolfie1689 Месяц назад
Nice but it's a small improvement over OQ3. Still far from Apple's Resolution. I'm disappointed on Quest and Valve they haven't improved anything this year. Cheap Quest coming soon.... not a better one.
@sephiroth4543
@sephiroth4543 Месяц назад
Apple spoiled the game for me. I can't go back to lower res and lcd. What these guys Meta and Pico don't realise is they need to release 2 headsets. Basic cheaper lcd version for people that don't really want high end stuff and high end one for the hard-core guys. In the top of the range headset the resolution needs to be very high minimum Pimax Crystal like resolution and Oled panel has to be used.
@ubarwolfie1689
@ubarwolfie1689 Месяц назад
@@sephiroth4543 Agreed. And today Meta ditched Quest Pro 2... so we're all sticking to crappy headsets - can't believe they're launching a lower specs Quest 3
@charlesbevitt6727
@charlesbevitt6727 Месяц назад
Please check whether prescription lens inserts for the pico four will fit this too. Much thanks.
@MyNames-l9t
@MyNames-l9t Месяц назад
They do!
@toututu2993
@toututu2993 Месяц назад
No display port is such a big disappointment
@gerarderloper
@gerarderloper Месяц назад
I believe the thinking is if you don't allow people to use USB-DP then they will be more inclined to buy your apps instead. This kind of thinking however is very flawed on many levels because the people who want DP, will never be buying anymore apps then they would have bought even if forced to use WiFI for PCVR. They crippling the product for bad reasons.
@toututu2993
@toututu2993 Месяц назад
@@gerarderloper Cross buy like what Meta does that give both the standalone and pcvr version. That would absolutely give me a good reason to buy through that instead of the steam store. Having a both world playing from displayport cord through powerful machine and freedom without wired through standablone is always a win for consumers.
@rodiape
@rodiape Месяц назад
no more lcd please
@SjaakSchulteis
@SjaakSchulteis Месяц назад
As someone who likes the Pico4 and the Quest3 I have the feeling that the Pico4 Ultra is a bit like a Quest3 in a Pico4 jacket. Of course, both have a different system, but on the whole I think that I can make good use of some of the Pico4 Ultra features, like spatial video and photos. To use it as a 3D camera sounds good to me. Better pass through then the Quest3? That's awesome. I love watching movies in passthrough mode.... so in short: it will be my companion headset to the Quest3 not a replacement. It will only replace my Pico4.
@jackr.749
@jackr.749 Месяц назад
I guess it all depends on the use case, for people into stand alone and AR / MR use, this might be a great HMD, for those who would use it for PCVR only, maybe not so much especially at it's price point. Same resolution, looks like the same pancake lenses as the OG Pico 4, the lenses are good, but nowhere as good as those in the Quest 3. By having a XR2 Gen2 chip, the visible compression should be much better, Gen2 is faster at decoding (like comparing Quest 2 and 3, 3 is so much better). Lack of a display port like the Neo 3 Link is a missed opportunity, they would have sold a crap load of HMD for this feature alone. Being a Gen2 chip with those specs, don't expect a decent battery life also, that XR2 Gen2 chip is power hungry. As for the controllers, I really like the OG Pico 4 controllers, I love their balance so don't know what the ringless ones will feel like balance wise. For $600 USA (probably around $750 Canadian), it's a hard pass for me.
@Taha-Aamamou
@Taha-Aamamou 23 дня назад
I had quest 2 for 3 years got a quest 3 for almost a year now i have wifi 6e and i never noticed any difference in airlink or virtual desktop even with all the correct settings its always the same compression and latency
@julianmazzola
@julianmazzola Месяц назад
Pico4 was my favorite PCVR headset for a while. Best comfort, best optics. But, the panels had lackluster colors/contrast/brightness. If the Pico4 Ultra had a DisplayPort tether it'd be an instant-buy, but for now I'll stick with PSVR2 + Quest3
@KiLDELTA
@KiLDELTA Месяц назад
I love my Pico 4 over my Quest and I am excited for this. I live in Asia and pricing for Pico is significantly competitive vs the Quest so this may be an alternative for me especially being mainly a PCVR player. What I love also is unlike how the Quest redesigned the design which forces us to buy new accessories, this new Pico can basically reuse most of our existing accessories.
@jamiesalmonsculpture8599
@jamiesalmonsculpture8599 Месяц назад
It's all a bit redundant though, as least in North America. Pico will not be available in USA or Canada still. Bytedance/Tictoc/Pico future very shaky in US. Good for Chinese and Europe I guess. Still a massive chunk of the market is missing
@droxoel
@droxoel Месяц назад
Might it be bad strategy to release a headset, slightly better than Quest3, short before the big Meta conference, where new flagships will be presented? Pico is too late IMO.
@diegoperez3278
@diegoperez3278 Месяц назад
No DisplayPort no party
@miketoulon8561
@miketoulon8561 Месяц назад
Excited hope the devs deliver games for it plus update the existing library
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
That would be great.
@DelDredd
@DelDredd 17 дней назад
It will have better cooling and be faster than Q3 just like the Pico 4 ran faster than the Q2 due to its better cooling as more room without battery up front.
@Simlife101
@Simlife101 Месяц назад
I don’t think AV1 is their codec??? This new spatial videos will be so good for people who’s grandparents or mom or dad or anyone really who may pass away before them and having the ability to see them again like you we see them in real life will be absolutely amazing. I just wish they existed when my grandparents were alive. 😢
@CognosSquare
@CognosSquare Месяц назад
P4U advantage over Q3 is nice but not not so essential as P4 over Q2 was. But what can win me over is: -if Spatial Video turns out to be good. 2x32MB Cameras could be awesome for photos. Video res at 50Mbit is also interesting. -If RGB passthrough is noticeably better than Quest3 -If Pico open access to RGB cameras for devs -if Guy Godin says that P4U with Wifi7 PCVR is better in any way -If you can use TikTok with real time filters in MR (I have children) -If they open their promised 2D Android store also in Europe and it has good 2D apps
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
You know what you want. I like that.
@chainsov
@chainsov Месяц назад
AV1 is not their codec, its open source. youtube uses it for some high res vids, also I believe twitch is testing AV1 streaming it allows much better quality for same bitrate, and it degrades much nicer, if you bandwidth drops, no microblocking like x264/x265 in theory a 1000mbit AV1 stream would look like 1500mbit HEVC stream but it's slower to encode without hw acceleration, so it might mean more delay depending on your PC
@huxleyhawke1532
@huxleyhawke1532 Месяц назад
Not enough for an upgrade. I need: - 2800p or higher resolution - Eye tracking - Oled or Local dimming - Lenses with less glare We will hopefully get an affordable headset with all those things soon
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
What is affordable for you?
@emilianomontanari283
@emilianomontanari283 Месяц назад
you prefer to change battery than charge the controllers ??
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 Месяц назад
Why wouldnt you?! If you run out of power... but still want to keep playing, you can swap batteries, and keep going. If you dont have swappable batteries.. you are DONE.. as you will have to WAIT for them to re-charge. You can easily get a set of rechargeable AA Batteries, and can have sets charging, while you are playing. Furthermore... Proprietary Batteries, are a Nightmare. As once they lose their ability to hold a long charge... and you need to replace them... you often have trouble finding a proper replacement. And if you DO find a replacement online.. it might actually be very expensive. On the other hand, Rechargeable AA batteries can be purchased anywhere.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
Well said!
@emilianomontanari283
@emilianomontanari283 Месяц назад
@@johndough8115 cause it is more simple to connect the charger than change a battery …. the controllers should last much more than quest 3 ones…. this is the point
@steffendetrick
@steffendetrick Месяц назад
@@emilianomontanari283 it literally takes less than a minute to swap batteries
@eleongo
@eleongo Месяц назад
@@emilianomontanari283 So you would rather pay extra fortune to skip a couple steps by juz plugging controllers and wait to charge, in contrast of swapping AA batteries. Your money your call I guess but common sense wise the latter is much better.
@johnmann7o2
@johnmann7o2 Месяц назад
They dropped the ball re-using the old panels. There was nothing wrong with the original controller design.
@conchobar
@conchobar Месяц назад
I hope Pico does a better job of flocking the lens assembly. Pico 4 suffers greatly from internal glare, and it would be so easy to fix in manufacturing.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
What could they do about the glare?
@jmlibre4468
@jmlibre4468 Месяц назад
Pico 4+ native rendering resolution: 1920x1920. Quest 3: 1680x1760. Sadly no DP.
@johnmann7o2
@johnmann7o2 Месяц назад
Not sure what this means. Is it rendering for the mobile games? Because it’s still 20 PPD compared to 25ppd for q3 via PCVR.
@jmlibre4468
@jmlibre4468 Месяц назад
@@johnmann7o2 Exactly. One thing is the resolution of the screen and another thing is the resolution the chip can render in standalone mode (the native resolution). So yes. Besides pico has more vertical FOV but less horizontal FOV so also that to consider.
@stephenbard1590
@stephenbard1590 24 дня назад
How does the resolution and 3D depth of the 3D videos compare with standalone 3D cameras like the QooCam Ego?
@Eskoxo
@Eskoxo Месяц назад
still baffles me why not include DisplayPort passthrough in usb c just to save a dollar... even super cheap laptops have it nowadays.
@shApYT
@shApYT Месяц назад
Eye tracking is a must for high resolution VR
@jerryheritage
@jerryheritage Месяц назад
The only thing stopping me from considering Pico for so long is the game library... Pico needs to understand that it's not just about the hardware but also the software and the updates and new patches for the games. Look at Meta and their exclusive games, that's way more attractive. We are not looking at just one specific point, it's hardware, apps, and games.
@ThinCrustPizzzza
@ThinCrustPizzzza Месяц назад
Who plays games on their VR? Only children do.
@steffendetrick
@steffendetrick Месяц назад
The biggest selling point for the Quest is the ecosystem with its games and OS. The pico is pretty much a very slightly improved copy of the Quest so for me it’s a pass though I probably wouldn’t be able to get one here in the states regardless.
@funkydmunky1
@funkydmunky1 Месяц назад
hey thanks for the early info. looking forward to your very trusted info going forward as always. keep up the great content 😃
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
Thanks so much!
@ericchang3531
@ericchang3531 Месяц назад
will this be available in US ?
@KevinJardine
@KevinJardine Месяц назад
Given how hostile US politicians are to Chinese companies I would say no.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
Don't think so.
@TriangelProduction
@TriangelProduction Месяц назад
It's as clear as day that the Pico 4 Ultra is better than the Q3 and please tell me games from the meta store that you absolutely have to have and that are not for the Pico 3 or 4 ? The Pico design is also much better designed and modern, whereas the Q3 looks old-fashioned and requires an extra head mount which causes additional costs. Also shorter playing time and longer loading times. The Meta Store doesn't look particularly good either. China copies a lot but also improves a lot ⭐ And i believe USA will also get the new Ultra ...
@gerarderloper
@gerarderloper Месяц назад
If its $600usd then that is pretty amazing. HOWEVER I do need more information about the display, I'm not a huge fan of conventional LCD technology because of its inability to correctly balance or even do blacks. I tried playing some DARK VR games with my PICO-4 when I had it and it was very disappointing with HUGE backlight bleed and all blacks being merged into a shade of grey, it was aweful. Only decent local area dimming (with HDR) can resolve this for such screens even if OLED isn't being used. So far it seems only Sony with PSVR2 have attempted to resolve this problem, but that headset its not great on PC.
@alucardyork
@alucardyork Месяц назад
pico 4 is the best headset hands down
@wanga10000
@wanga10000 Месяц назад
Already booked one from Taiwan here, hopefully it would not blocked by Customs due to some bul****t reasons.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
I really hate that customs stuff here in Taiwan! They give me so many problems with products all the time. This time when I received those controllers, ask was good though.
@gufo2020
@gufo2020 Месяц назад
no DP = same market as Q3, so no possible victory
@lexmanbrother1239
@lexmanbrother1239 Месяц назад
That's what meta was supposed to do, come out with a quest better than the quest 3 not lower, now Meta took a body shot from Pico, this Pico ultra going to make that quest 3 s look like trash, that was not supposed to happen,meta you were not supposed to go down that is the law of life.
@mrnigam4486
@mrnigam4486 Месяц назад
Still no oled displays yet !
@guvnormclean
@guvnormclean Месяц назад
There was a sheet of the pico 5 and the pico ultra having DP . what happened to this info this is just a pico 4 + , hardlies ultra means absolutley amazing , it is not .
@Simlife101
@Simlife101 Месяц назад
Give me OLED 120hz pancake lenses like the Q3 display port or wireless and super light and I’m in 😅
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
How much are you willing to pay for that though?
@Simlife101
@Simlife101 Месяц назад
@@mixedrealityTV what ever it cost lol obviously I would be happy around £1500 to £2000 with current options to compare.
@damyjuk
@damyjuk Месяц назад
As a pico 4 owner i dont think this will be my upgrade as its not £600 better.i am probably going to go for a pimax crystal light.
@Sparky_007
@Sparky_007 Месяц назад
Direct Display Port connection to PC and no Compressed USB-C port BS, then it's a sale.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
I am with you.
@zenobikraweznick
@zenobikraweznick Месяц назад
Telemetry data sent to a Chinese server ? Thanks but no, thanks 😮
@BROzMiK
@BROzMiK Месяц назад
I think It's safer than information sent to your government. China is far far away and can't hurt you
@zloidooraque0
@zloidooraque0 24 дня назад
it costs $1k in russia wtf
@moonmemes3806
@moonmemes3806 Месяц назад
when does the embargo drop?
@JsemPO12
@JsemPO12 29 дней назад
You said quest 3 has 8Mb of ram ;)
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV 29 дней назад
@@JsemPO12 I know...haha!
@chapanation856
@chapanation856 Месяц назад
I'll have. To pass on that one
@ZZYDDD
@ZZYDDD Месяц назад
I'm a pico supporter, but no. it's not better.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
Which part is not better in your opinion?
@grindathotte
@grindathotte Месяц назад
With the Pico 4, I can't get my eyes anywhere near the lenses, so have a small FOV. If the Ultra is the same shape, then it's still a loser for me.
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
Try a better face gasket like the AMVR one. You will be shocked how close you will get to the lenses!
@grindathotte
@grindathotte Месяц назад
@@mixedrealityTV Even with no face gasket I still can't get close enough.
@gordontechreviews
@gordontechreviews Месяц назад
It's not really the answer to the quest 3 though. It's Only releasing in China so can't really get your hands on it plus , you can only say it's the answer to the quest 3 if you release it in the US. pico 4 never did so NOT the answer to the quest 3 .....
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
I know it's hard to believe but: there is life outside of the US! :) It will launch in many countries soon. Of course none of those is a shining beacon on a hill but there are living humans as well.
@gordontechreviews
@gordontechreviews Месяц назад
@@mixedrealityTV not my point though, Meta is a US based company, the Quest 3 is a US devise, IF someone wants to claim "answer to the quest 3" that item HAS to release in the country that the other is in. right now we have the quest 3 then over there some other people are making a thing but it's not an answer to the quest 3. An "answer" is a "competitor". A competitor is ONLY a competitor if the two are sold side by side, they aren't so it's not. simple really
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
@@gordontechreviews The Quest 3 is not just being sold in the US. For those other countries this might be the Quest 3 competitor. I understand that from the US standpoint it is not.
@papidelamontagne
@papidelamontagne Месяц назад
Pico 4 for me is still not better than a quest 3 due to the 5 ppd less and the lens glare effect 😁
@sephiroth4543
@sephiroth4543 Месяц назад
Exactly, I hate low res and poor contrast in 2024
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb Месяц назад
The specs of the Pico4 Ultra are obviously better (not much better, but still clearly better) than those of the Quest3. There is 100% no doubt about it !!! Did you guys actually watch Sebastians video or are you just Meta fanboys??!!
@Aitch26
@Aitch26 Месяц назад
i think i'd personally take a higher vertical fov over ppd tbh. It'll have to be cheaper than the quest 3 though
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb Месяц назад
Better in Pico4 Ultra compared to Quest3: - 12 GB RAM (+ 4GB)!! - higher resolution of the MR cameras!! - higher display resolution! - higher rendering resolution!! - lighter than Quest3 - much better binocular overlap! - motorized IPD adjustment - better comfort, much better balanced headset (not a very cheap strap as in Quest3) - WiFi 7 - higher battery capacity - very affordable motion trackers - not a closed ecosystem What is worse: - worse lenses (more glare) - less games in the Pico Store (but still more than enough)
@johnmann7o2
@johnmann7o2 Месяц назад
@@Anakin-dl6ebtell me how the 20ppd of the pico 4 is better than 25ppd for q3
@inceptional
@inceptional Месяц назад
At this point I just don't care about new VR headsets anymore until the FOV is simply far bigger than the current roughly 100 degrees horizontally on average--and I mean much bigger. I don't think I will buy another VR headset without that being addressed. It's the single greatest immersion breaker in the likes of the Quest 3 for me.
@kevinslatten9573
@kevinslatten9573 Месяц назад
I totally agree. Hope the new htc headset comes with bigger fov
@Bstky73
@Bstky73 Месяц назад
No one can compete with Meta Horizon Software right now.
@greenleaf1635
@greenleaf1635 Месяц назад
Noooooooooooooooooo... I just got my Q3
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
@@greenleaf1635it's allright, no worries.
@greenleaf1635
@greenleaf1635 Месяц назад
@@mixedrealityTV Nah just kidding man, I'm really happy with my Q3
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
@@greenleaf1635 it is a great device
@boomerjames924
@boomerjames924 Месяц назад
Never will be better than the quest 3
@dingdongchingchong8659
@dingdongchingchong8659 28 дней назад
If you have Pico 4. Don't bother upgrading to Pico 4 Ultra. If Pico 4 ultra had display port, then it would be a game changer. Unfortunately overall, Quest 3 is still the general recommendation from the VR community. So if you have Quest 3. Definitely do not upgrade to Pico 4 ultra.
@Bernhard495
@Bernhard495 Месяц назад
Why do people care so much about DP? I thought everyone was just using the pico wirelessly. I hate wires
@zerocool6452
@zerocool6452 Месяц назад
No latency and compressionn that's why we wan't it. No matter how good your specs are and how good your stuff maybe there will always be compression and latency and that bothers many people including me. DP headsets has the advantage of looking better on lower specced PC:s. You need more brawn to get a similar thing on Aio headsets.
@SETHalpine
@SETHalpine Месяц назад
​@@zerocool6452there is compression on DP1.4.... DP2.1 are only available on AMD graphic card ...and DP2.1 vidéo controller are expensive ( isn't it Pimax!?) USB-C has display Virtual mode...and has a good bandwidth in 3.2 version...( Forget USB 3.0) Added to this, they want to sell apps...and autonomous game ( with the bad decoding capacity of XR2...) and DP Always means SteamVr....so no money for them
@brokensword2621
@brokensword2621 Месяц назад
Meta ecosystem is the best. Why i must waste my money on the Chinese product that lack the software and quest ecosystem. Maybe for pcvr games? But the lack of displayport is also disappointing
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb Месяц назад
But it's a rather close ecosystem that many people hate a lot.... The Quest3 is also produced completely in China.....
@brokensword2621
@brokensword2621 Месяц назад
@Anakin-dl6eb First of all, it's not closed ecosystem. You can use it with a lot of third-party apps, and you can join a meta to create apps and games. The metas librery and supports are way better than pico. Also, producing something in china does not mean that that thing is invented or designed in china. Apple products are also produced in china, so does that mean china invented apple products and engineering design for them? No , so educate yourself before commenting. 🙄
@jmlibre4468
@jmlibre4468 Месяц назад
@@brokensword2621 And the US is better than china at what exactly? because the spying of the whole world is been going by the US for decades. Not to mention the bombing and the killing for decades too.
@Anakin-dl6eb
@Anakin-dl6eb Месяц назад
@@brokensword2621 The installation of APKs is much easier with the Pico4 !!!!! Please comment why companies produce in China and not in their homecountries !!! The reasons are very obvious......, even you should know them..... Thinking before writing would be helpful !!!
@DrInsane76
@DrInsane76 25 дней назад
I love my pico 4 and if there is an ultra version i definetly need it! 😄 The onl thing is the light leakage that is annoying and i hope that they improved that.
@Aitch26
@Aitch26 Месяц назад
San andreas was the only game i was lookin forward to. Now that it's delayed/scrapped, This will be a very interesting proposition since i never play standalone anyways. Sadly there's nothing in vr that i'm interested in at the moment and a quest 2 is more than enough for fitness games. I'll probably still wait it out until there's a reason to get excited about vr again
@emilianomontanari283
@emilianomontanari283 Месяц назад
i hope for better lenses frankly
@MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p
@MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p 25 дней назад
How's tracking with the controllers? I love playing action VR games like Blade and Sorcery, and precise, broad-angle controller tracking is everything for VR swordfighting.
@Alekouzos
@Alekouzos Месяц назад
well Pico 4 is better than quest 2. And so Pico ultra will be better that Quest 3. The only problem here is the allready paid game collection. I you own even a Quest 2 is not worth it go for a Pico ultra if you have to buy again all the games!
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
That makes sense. That's the walled garden approach. It does work.
@G.Yam74
@G.Yam74 Месяц назад
Without a Display Port its just too late. Next.....
@mixedrealityTV
@mixedrealityTV Месяц назад
Unfortunately it seems those companies don't care about Displayport..
@G.Yam74
@G.Yam74 Месяц назад
@@mixedrealityTV i dont care about to upgrade without a DP....
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