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New report says lead poisoning could be the culprit of Beethoven's deafness 

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Medical experts reveal Beethoven's profound deafness may have been caused by extreme levels of lead found in his hair, shedding new light on the composer's health struggles. The New York Times' medical reporter, Gina Kolata, joins Morning Joe to discuss the new report.
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Комментарии : 81   
@joycestricklen1780
@joycestricklen1780 15 дней назад
I have a hearing loss so it is almost unbelievable to understand how anyone could create anything that beautiful without being able to hear it. And so sad that he wasn't able to hear the audience applauding.
@TamaraLeaMusic
@TamaraLeaMusic 15 дней назад
He had the understanding of music theory and harmonization pre-hearing loss. So it isn’t inconceivable that he could create beautiful works. Musicians hear things in their mind first before hearing it on an instrument.
@winstonsmith6607
@winstonsmith6607 15 дней назад
Or hear his own music.
@ccsullivan9164
@ccsullivan9164 15 дней назад
The Ode to Joy scene that Gina describes is beautifully depicted in “Copying Beethoven” (Ed Harris, Diane Kruger) . Worth seeking out.
@kateuhler7803
@kateuhler7803 15 дней назад
I prefer "Immortal Beloved". ❤
@kateuhler7803
@kateuhler7803 15 дней назад
I always thought it might be due to his father boxing his ears too much and too hard. This is such a huge discovery in the world of music. Thank you for reporting on this!! 💞 He was, to me, the most amazing and best composer of all time. And he was completely deaf for much of his life. A-MAZ-ING. I ❤ Beethoven
@carolynsilvers9999
@carolynsilvers9999 15 дней назад
It a wonder any of our ancestors surrvived long enough to pass DNA forward.
@karenhousley610
@karenhousley610 15 дней назад
Positive. For heavy metal, lol
@ronnyskaar3737
@ronnyskaar3737 15 дней назад
Wow. This is just incredible.
@msmuffet1
@msmuffet1 12 дней назад
Things like pewter drinking mugs and lead crystal glasses (since the 1700s) certainly didn't help.
@MariaMartinez-researcher
@MariaMartinez-researcher 13 дней назад
03:14. The Ninth's premiere was not conducted by Beethoven. He was unable to do it. "Although the performance was officially directed by Michael Umlauf, the theatre's Kapellmeister, Beethoven shared the stage with him. However, two years earlier, Umlauf had watched as the composer's attempt to conduct a dress rehearsal for a revision of his opera Fidelio ended in disaster. So this time, he instructed the singers and musicians to ignore the almost completely deaf Beethoven. At the beginning of every part, Beethoven, who sat by the stage, gave the tempos. He was turning the pages of his score and beating time for an orchestra he could not hear." (Wikipedia, supported by multiple contemporary and academic sources.) Also, the alto singer Caroline Unger is credited as the one who made Beethoven to turn around to watch the ovations.
@kateuhler7803
@kateuhler7803 11 дней назад
That scene is depicted in "Immortal Beloved" (my fave movie of all time), though it slightly changes a couple details.
@bobbyg7719
@bobbyg7719 15 дней назад
They say Beethoven could hear out of his left ear a little, leading up to his death. 🤷
@petertodd5896
@petertodd5896 15 дней назад
There is a really great and moving movie named "Copying Beethoven " in which he is struggling whilst composing the "Ninth Symphony ". He is joined by a young aspiring composer named Anna to help him finish this masterpiece which is performed towards the end of the movie. Anna is the one who grabbed his arm to turn around and see a rapturous audience applause. For anyone interested, this is a very moving and beautiful movie.
@lindaluckett7790
@lindaluckett7790 13 дней назад
Sad 😢
@nonuser1532
@nonuser1532 14 дней назад
I can't believe that people care this much about some dead guy. We have more important things we should be worried about.
@winewoman224
@winewoman224 12 дней назад
In that day lead was widely used in everyday dining ware and also plumbing. The Homeopathic remedy from lead describes these exact symptoms.
@chriskakavetsis1960
@chriskakavetsis1960 15 дней назад
Wow, MSNBC is really on top of the news 300 years later.
@Haywood118
@Haywood118 15 дней назад
2 more minutes until a Trump update
@Ron-Ayres
@Ron-Ayres 15 дней назад
Yes, terrible that they didn't conduct this DNA testing when he died in 1827.
@Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq
@Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq 14 дней назад
I strongly suspect that much of the madness of the past few centuries can be attributed to heavy metal toxicity. May we all learn to be less toxic, both literally and figuratively. Respectfully submitted.
@beeinthebodytorahclass2002
@beeinthebodytorahclass2002 14 дней назад
How very sad!!
@maurachapman4179
@maurachapman4179 15 дней назад
Fascinating
@AlfCalson
@AlfCalson 14 дней назад
👍
@Bruno-ns7gm
@Bruno-ns7gm 15 дней назад
Lead is such a heavy cross to bear when you are a rock and roll hipster with chicks a plenty looking for a place to sneak off and imbibe of all those most passionate fruits, sweet to the taste and refined to eternally fascinate he who would never release thy bosom might he have one foot in his grave, and one hand for the teet of freedom firmly attached to the very soul itself. 🎻🎹🎸🎺🎷📯🎹🎻🎺🎷📯
@bobbyg7719
@bobbyg7719 15 дней назад
When looking back at the most prestigious Artists/Painters/Sculptors/composers Etc. You'll findout that most of them suffered from some form of disability/pain. And by creating their masterpiece, was their way of releasing that pain, even if it was for a short second. 🤷
@TheAmericanDreamed
@TheAmericanDreamed 15 дней назад
I’ve got one question Is student loan forgiveness given before or after death to America?
@Haywood118
@Haywood118 15 дней назад
I just watched a team of dudes and a Shetland pony plow out Stormy's backdoor. She's such an inspiring actor/actress/act-person. Definitely a class act.
@AmericanWarrior882
@AmericanWarrior882 15 дней назад
Democrats have no moral compass
@firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100
@firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100 15 дней назад
i like when trump jr was telling about taking a shower with trump then he dropped the soap and picked it up, and he said daddy called him a good boy.
@joep5815
@joep5815 15 дней назад
Beethoven would have wanted trump in prison but today they all are scared of trump.
@IDontBuyIt50
@IDontBuyIt50 15 дней назад
who's been spending their time wondering about this besides nobody, ever?
@Ron-Ayres
@Ron-Ayres 15 дней назад
And yet here you are, watching and commenting.
@hitwalkin1152
@hitwalkin1152 15 дней назад
Yes just what we needed reporting on
@Ron-Ayres
@Ron-Ayres 15 дней назад
Why _shouldn't_ it be reported on? Beethoven is one of the world's greatest composers - it's newsworthy.
@muttonchopsgayever
@muttonchopsgayever 15 дней назад
Stormy Daniels had a Zoom call with Beethoven last month.
@jaytaylor2312
@jaytaylor2312 15 дней назад
I’ve had time to get over it
@AmericanWarrior882
@AmericanWarrior882 15 дней назад
News!😂😂😂😂
@Ron-Ayres
@Ron-Ayres 15 дней назад
Yes!
@alanbuzby613
@alanbuzby613 15 дней назад
Isn't Mika the one who called people anti vaxers while back
@Don-md6wn
@Don-md6wn 14 дней назад
Why are you offended by an accurate term?
@alanbuzby613
@alanbuzby613 14 дней назад
@@Don-md6wn why you offended y anti vaxers ?
@alanbuzby613
@alanbuzby613 14 дней назад
@@Don-md6wn Anti vaxers are the ones they know they can't control. That gets their panties twisted
@Jerry-tv4bg
@Jerry-tv4bg 15 дней назад
No evidence of any crime yet 😂😂
@Americasinertia
@Americasinertia 15 дней назад
Sounds like 45s trials. No evidence. Just making up things as they go
@Elongated_Muskrat
@Elongated_Muskrat 15 дней назад
Breaking news
@TheAmericanDreamed
@TheAmericanDreamed 15 дней назад
Donald trump will be In court next month for this
@Americasinertia
@Americasinertia 15 дней назад
Probably. Briben the cheat
@TheAmericanDreamed
@TheAmericanDreamed 15 дней назад
The Msnbc viewership has been whittled down to people who just come on the laugh at their nonsense and people who have TDS
@winstonsmith6607
@winstonsmith6607 15 дней назад
I'm shocked they didn't blame it on Trump. Or Putin
@scottharrison8701
@scottharrison8701 15 дней назад
I thought it was climate change
@Americasinertia
@Americasinertia 15 дней назад
No. According to demokkkrats climate change caused the eclipse
@muttonchopsgayever
@muttonchopsgayever 15 дней назад
No, climate change is the thing started by evil rich Republicans driving gas guzzling SUVs around 5000 BC
@gibbygoddamngibsonofficial
@gibbygoddamngibsonofficial 15 дней назад
I'm sorry, could you repeat that?
@bobbyg7719
@bobbyg7719 15 дней назад
All this music stuff is too uplifting. Is there anyway we can get back to the 24/7 x 9 year long MSNBC Trump advent calendar. I have a little time to modify it again. 🤷
@psychoticbob
@psychoticbob 13 дней назад
Not just wrong but outright lies. The story of Beethoven conducting while being completely deaf and needing to be "tugged" to turn around is completely false. That's the fictional scene that was in the movie "Immortal Beloved." It NEVER happened in real life. By the time his 9th was written it was a well known fact by everyone that he was stone deaf. He had been using conversation books for years at that point. And NO ONE other than 2-3 close friends EVER got a lock of Beethoven's hair while he was alive. But at his funeral his coffin was mobbed by fans that literally shaved his corpse's head bald STEALING any of hair that they could get their hands on. One detail MSNBC sort of got right was the use of lead. Lead was used widely for drinking goblets, plates that people ate off of, utensils for eating, containers for food and drink. Lead was cheap and VERY easy to get and work to make items people used every day. It something made of lead broke it was easy to fix. And most people did not wash all that often. And those that did wash their hands before eating simply poured cold water over their hands then used either their clothes or whatever cloth was available to dry them. IF they bothered to dry them at all. Read your Solomon if you really care to know about Beethoven.
@do-beebrothers2550
@do-beebrothers2550 15 дней назад
What ? Huh?
@PureAmericanUgly
@PureAmericanUgly 15 дней назад
Someone needs to study Trumps hair. He might be the last Neanderthal.
@Americasinertia
@Americasinertia 15 дней назад
Says a corrupt cannibal supporter
@firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100
@firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100 15 дней назад
well he doesn't have a brain to study.
@PureAmericanUgly
@PureAmericanUgly 15 дней назад
Donald puts the lotion on its skin
@Americasinertia
@Americasinertia 15 дней назад
Jealous?
@PureAmericanUgly
@PureAmericanUgly 15 дней назад
@@Americasinertia Your mom puts the lotion on mine! 😊
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