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If you have Frontier and decide to use your own router, their tech support isn't too helpful. I also couldn't find on line how to do it. This is a quick guide to replace the router and have your fiber optic converter start using the new router. You can't just remove and hook up the new one, as their customer support told me. It's easy though, so don't worry.

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@timproko3440 Год назад

Good to know. I'm on our 2nd EERO wireless router in three weeks. I want to swap it out for a more robust wireless router. Good to know it can be done.😀

@joshhardin666 10 месяцев назад

I'm sorry I didn't mention previously WHY I'm not using the EERO. I'm sure it's a fine router, I just have some privacy concerns. EERO is configured via a web service run by amazon NOT running on the device itself. it sends information about your network to amazon (ip's, host names, mac addresses) in order to store them in the router's configuration... when you turn on an eero, it connects to a web service and pulls down it's configuration every time. I just don't like the way that works, I like to have more control over my network metadata. they are probably just fine mesh routers, in fact I see that they get decent reviews and from what i've read tend to be reasonably reliable. I've been looking at wifi7 access points (without routing functionality that i'm going to just disable anyway), but I'm not going to pull the trigger until I start getting wifi 7 clients. the netgear RAX80 is a heck of a router, but it can only handle 1g traffic or dual 1g via LACP if you have an upstream WAN device that allows link aggregation (but no 1 client can ever see more than 1g). it's not a bad compromise though for a router that came out in late 2018.

@steveharrison7082 4 месяца назад

Thanks for this. I tried to swap out the frontier router provided at the inside end of the feed coax but it didn't recognize the new one. I didn't know about rebooting the fiber to coax converter. I had my much faster 3rd party routers hooked up via network cable from the frontier router device's ports, and that works but there is no reason to keep the Frontier device if your solution works. A big thumbs up! By the way, I speed tested my Reyee AX6000 wifi 6 router in that setup and it is delivering the full 500Mbps up and down wirelessly on my 500 plan.

@SchubertTech 4 месяца назад

Awesome. Yes, if you're running the newer Wifi protocol (WIFI 6 or higher) you can hit the 500M up and down. The drawback might be your home devices might still be older (e.g. I have an Apple TV that ironically will hit it Wifi, but when I switch it over to ethernet/wired it's a 100M cap, because it's a 100M network card) for wifi or the network wired interface.

@kevo2utube Год назад

Appointment went well. Turns out my house was already setup with fiber. The technician did some things in the box outside came in the house with two eero routers which I declined because I already had Asus aimesh routers. Plugged the cable into my existing router. We did an immediate wireless speed test, 510 up, 250 down. Wired test 514 up, 502 down. So far I'm very happy with my decision to go fiber with Frontier.

@SchubertTech Год назад

Yes, I've had Frontier 500M internet for 13 months now and been very very happy. Even my gaming wifi or their wifi still get high numbers. 380M up and 390 down often. My delay is always super low (around 13ms). I game 4-6 hours a day and never lag or get dropped.

@misterlexx2721 Год назад

With those speeds , Xbox game pass would be wonderful for online gaming.

@Bewefau 7 месяцев назад

I would wan t 1gig down lol

@CSAcitizen 6 месяцев назад

NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE ! A LOT OF TALK BUT NO INSTRUCTIONS TO CONNECT ANYTHING.

@SchubertTech 6 месяцев назад

Sorry, just assumed most people knew how to connect, since you're just replacing what's already connected. What problems are you experiencing?

@JViello 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for posting this. I've got the exact same set up you do, my service was installed here about 10 months ago. I'm in the same boat with the router issue. What stopped me is on the Arris NVG468MQ I noticed the WAN port says ONT. It made me stop because in my knowledge and experience the ONT is the box the fiber terminates to so, uh oh, what kind of wizardry are they up to here. Turns out nothing, just put ONT on the WAN port for whatever reason...maybe to tell you to hook that into the output of the ONT? Who knows. I just figured I'd do a quick search and see if anyone else ditched the Arris and if they had any issues. Nope,. Same lady, different dress. I was a network engineer on the telco side for about 15 years. After moving through...good Lord, 5 companies the last 3 years I was in, thanks to mergers acquisitions etc and 3 interstate moves I said "Yeah, that's enough for now..." LOL

@SchubertTech 10 месяцев назад

Right, makes sense. To us telecom or network engineers, you understand on a gateway what LAN versus WAN means. However, the guys who install these networks are not always "engineering level." I was explaining turn radiuses and why you don't want to staple cat-5e (or CAT6) to the installer, which he was open to but didn't know. He was happy when I was helping him fish the fiber from the curb service point into my house, but as a former switch tech I couldn't watch him struggle. Glad the video helped.

@JViello 10 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech I didn't want to believe the installers were that bad until I saw what mind did once I opened things up after the fact. He ran fresh cat-5e from a dedicated female RJ-45 on the baseboard upstairs down to the ONT. So imagine my surprise when I open the panel and see this: A coiled 6' network cable plugged into the 10GE port on the ONT. The other end, he cut the RJ off and spliced into a ethernet junction box into the new cat-5e run. I'm like "LOL WTF!?!" You can't crimp a new RJ on to the nice fresh cat-5 you just ran? Cutting the connector off an existing cable and using a junction box? Holy WTF? LOL 😅 My installer was doing the same thing running cable - Staples. Oy! Where I live we have basements in 99%+ of homes. I took the time to predrill holes for a dedicated run through the floor joists. I specifically showed him the predrilled run, yet he stapled. I mean WTF over? 🤔 Thanks again my man, keep being awesome.

@Bewefau 7 месяцев назад

Hmm, I would put a water proof cover over that power box. I know you have in a case but that thing might leak so having that exposed like that is very bad idea.

@SchubertTech 7 месяцев назад

Hmm, interesting point. You're right I'm pretty sure that low voltage box isn't considered by NEC "wet location," rated, but I'm not sure. I would usually say, "The builder put it in and it should be code," but I've caught a number of things the inspector didn't catch, so that doesn't cover it. I do have extra exterior wet rated boxes in the garage, so maybe that's something I do.. Good catch. I'll look into changing that possibly. I'm going to first see what the rating is on that box.

@Rzn8B58 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the run down. I'm over here in Lake Elsinore and just got frontier 1gb service today. I'm actually a little disappointed with the wifi capabilities of the eero pro 6 provided coming from spectrum with the arris modem I got 546+ down and 25 up consistently. Im right next to the eero and I'm getting inconsistent and slow wifi dl/ul speeds using ookla speed test of 97 down and 400 up and sometimes 10 down and 300 up. On the eero app it's showing 896 down 964 up after the firmaware updated, but ookla is telling a different story depending on which server it's pinging. I'm hoping a different router will solve the problem for me and at least give me 500 dl/ul wifi and 900 wired. Would I have to go directly from the ONT in my garage into the new router or from the coax cat6 inside coming out the wall and just replace the eero?

@SchubertTech 8 месяцев назад

The simplest explanation is you'll just take the WAN connection going into your EERO Pro 6, and swing it to your new wifi routers WAN port. Your local hardwire will then go into the LAN ports. I have a high speed gaming router, with beam forming and external antennas. It's really hard to get past 450Mbps with Wifi6. I get usually the same up and down, but I also go to the Frontier server in LA for my testing. Despite living here for 2 years now, I still haven't gotten around to hardwire. I have the 500 down and up plan from Frontier. If I'm getting almost 500 via wifi I haven't had a pressing desire to run cabling. That said, I have ran the channels, so really, I'm being lazy, as all I need to do is terminate RJ45 plugs, put the cables in the channels and put the covers on.

@windmasterfluke Год назад

Thanks for the video. I will have fiver in a week or two when they come out to install

@Doboi85 6 месяцев назад

I have the 500/500 plan and with my Orbi mesh wifi routers I get around 350 downl. and 250 upl. all around the house. I had to gigabit plan for a short time and that was around 750 dowl. And 600 upl. I would only get very near advertised speeds when I had a hardwire connection

@SchubertTech 6 месяцев назад

That sounds similar. When on Wifi6 with beam forming, I can get 350-380M down and up (same). I've converted most of the house to ethernet, and now I get 480 on hardwire (down and up). Previously no one could push me content that fast until about 3-4 weeks ago Microsoft can push me XBOX games up to about 430M. I also noticed as I moved more devices off Wifi, the systems still on Wifi got faster. The only unexpected this was realizing my AppleTV only had a 100M NIC. So my older Apple TV on wifi will get 300M, but when I switch it to ethernet, it never goes over 100M. The switch is a gigabit, and the XBOX (on the same switch) gets 300-400 on Wifi (speed tests) and full line rate (480-490M) on ethernet (download speed testing), so I know it's the AppleTV, nothing downstream. I googled the specs, and sure enough it's 100M.

@kevo2utube Год назад

Appointment with Frontier tomorrow for Fiber 500. Getting rid of my T-Mobile Home Internet service. I have an existing Asus Aimesh network. I'm hoping I don't have any issues setting up everything.

@SchubertTech Год назад

You should be fine. When they connect the new fiber interface, they'll connect your Asus. Just power cycle the Asus after the fiber converter is up. It will send out an address request via it's WAN port to the fiber interface, which will give it the IP address to use (WAN side). Your local LAN will remain the same and not even know the ISP changed.

@kevo2utube Год назад

@@SchubertTech Cool! Thank you. I'll post after the installation and testing.

@truth5740 Год назад

Get the 1 gig don’t go with the 500 ask who ever has the 1000 and they never have problems

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@truth5740 I never have problems with 1/2 gig either. Fiber is going to perform either way just fine.

@PatricksDIY 11 месяцев назад

All I had to do was plug in my new one, and it worked, I didn't have to mess with anything, not sure why yours didn't work, at the worst doing a release and renew on the router, but you shouldn't have to turn anything off.

@SchubertTech 11 месяцев назад

Glad it worked for you. Since this video gets about 100 views a day, obviously many people are having this problem. I almost didn't make it because I thought it might be "too geeky". For me, it didn't renew, even when power cycling the router and fiber converter. It would be a release on the fiber converter, not the router, in this specific case. The Frontier fiber converter assigns the LAN IP to your wifi router (which shows up as the WAN IP on your wifi router). The router is the gateway to your internal LAN, but the fiber converter is the gateway to your router (WAN versus LAN). The way a server knows a device needs an IP is through an ARP request (Address Resolution Protocol) where the new device says, "This is my MAC, what's my IP?" broadcast to the entire "network." A server will respond directly (not broadcast), "MAC -whatever-, your IP is x.x.x.x". It's possible they changed the fiber converter to abandon previous ARP assignments. There can only be one gateway, so the LAN side of the converter typically only assigns a single IP address. Soooo, they're either allowing a 2nd gateway (for the fiber converter), or the previous ARP resolution is abandoned.

@JKobylarz Год назад

Great video! Thank you

@SchubertTech Год назад

Glad it helped. Funny thing is I thought, "Nobody will probably watch this video," and it's helping a lot of people.

@ImperialSovereign Год назад

Good to know its can be swapped out, really wish all the ISPs would offer a "use my own router" option from the beginning since I love my mesh network setup.

@SchubertTech Год назад

It's a mixed thing for them. On the one hand you want customers to be happy, which means they can use their own mesh routers, gaming router, etc. On the other hand, the #1 reason customers are NOT happy is because of their routers. Meaning, in their mind one of the #1 reasons they get tech support phone calls is that customers are having issues with their wifi. Wifi is their issue, not the ISP. So, I get it. 1,000s of tech support calls costs them $$, and customer satisfaction... Then you have the customers who are tech savvy who are smart enough to know when something is local (wifi) versus WAN side (ISP).

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

I just got Frontier fiber internet yesterday. I told the installer I wanted to use my own router, and he took the EERO back to his truck without ever connecting it. Also, the ONT is inside my house where it would be easy to get to if needed. As to resetting it, there seem to be two reset buttons. One on the ONT and one n the power supply. I'll see how well this works for a week or so, then may want to transfer my phone. I forgot to ask the installer, maybe it'll be as simple as plugging a cable into the jack marked POTS1 on the ONT.

@JamesGoodin-USMC-5963 Год назад

Frontier does offer a use your own router option, but be warned, if you do use your own router, any trouble that is the router or beyond is at your cost. You will be charged for a trip charge. I highly recommend using frontiers router and let them worry about it.

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

@@JamesGoodin-USMC-5963 I understand that, and wouldn't expect Frontier to support my device. What's more important to me is that no one else should have control of MY network.

@FATL0L0 Месяц назад

That’s crazy how they mounted the Modem on the outside of the house; it wouldn’t survive the Ariz Heat like that !!!

@SchubertTech Месяц назад

Yeah good point. It does get hot here. It was 107 F yesterday.

@FATL0L0 8 дней назад

For how Days ? We deal with 119+ 5 months out of the year!!!

@michaelthompson7351 Год назад

I’m in Menifee and the frontier guy connected a wi-fi extender after I complained of poor service and it’s still moves like crap I bought a to-link decco 6 system I was wondering is there any help in installing it because frontier won’t help?

@SchubertTech Год назад

So there's a few directions things can go. When you say, "Poor Service," it's meaning can be one, some or many things. Are you all wifi or partially hardwired (ethernet cables)? Are all bad, or slow, or what is "poor?" If it's just the WIFI and you're talking signal strength, then yes, a wifi extender can help. In any other case, an extender makes everything worse. So once you can give me a better picture of what's actually "poor" about the service, I can probably help.

@davidlambert7599 Год назад

Can you add an ethernet port/hub? I have ethernet running through the walls of my house but they are not active at the different ports in the house.

@SchubertTech Год назад

No one uses hubs now so you're probably meaning a switch. Yes, you can take one good ethernet, run into a switch, and then have more ethernet ports. You do not want to use additional router(s) to add more ports, if you already have a single router. If you have multiple routers, it causes problems. You can have as many switches as you want, and multiple switches are ok.

@davidlambert7599 Год назад

And use any open ethernet port that is existing on the frontier, in wall, equipment?

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@davidlambert7599 Yes, you can plug a switch into any one, few or all 4 ports of the router's LAN. When you say, "In wall," I'm assuming you mean the router Frontier leaves you. If you mean the Frontier fiber box, then no, there's a very specific port to be used, and the router needs to be plugged in. You need a router first, because this is what assigns the IP addresses in your LAN. This is the same reason you only want 1 router, because with 2 routers you can/will have IP address conflicts.

@margaretcollier7349 Год назад

I am new to Frontier. You mentioned you need to renew all your electronics to sync with the internet. I am tech challenged. Is it a simple process? How do you renew each tv, etc.?

@SchubertTech Год назад

It will be the same as when you first brought it home and configured your local Wifi name and password. It's usually pretty easy. With Echo devices, you do it in the app. With Ring, you go into the app for each camera and configure. For TV's it's normally just hit "Menu", "Configure," "Network," and then "Wifi". My home is new and came with an Ecobee thermostat, and that was easy on the front panel. The only thing difficult was my solar system's data collection "device." I made a video about that. I put off upgrading for almost a year because I really wasn't looking forward to dealing with it. However, it wasn't that bad once I found the manuals online for it. Frontier's tech support was literally useless.

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

You need to do this only if you're replacing your router. I didn't, and so only had to renew the router's WAN address. If you can't find of don't want to use any other way, reboot the device.

@martinadaugherty8041 Год назад

We are moving to the community soon all the houses are set up with frontier ?

@SchubertTech Год назад

Frontier has pulled fiber into a lot of the neighborhoods. The entire KB Homes communities around me have their (Frontier) fiber optics to the curb. When/if you decide to go with them, they'll pull fiber from your house to the common service enclosure (the box by the street). However, you can always go Dish or AT&T DSL if you don't want Frontier for some reason.

@martinadaugherty8041 Год назад

@@SchubertTech thank you so much we’ve been tryna find providers but when we type the address we’ve gotten a few not available so we started getting worried

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@martinadaugherty8041 Yes, in a brand new community which doesn't even show up in Google satellite imagery yet, you may have some problems getting people to recognize the new address. Frontier wasn't too bad, and I ended up just calling them. Be careful and make sure you're actually calling Frontier. There are "front companies," which will appear to be them. The service gets turned on, but it adds a layer which can cause confusion (calling Frontier won't "see" the appointment when it's set up by a 3rd party). Also, my install guy took a few minutes to figure things out but the neighbors Frontier guy took awhile longer (20-30 minutes). Every house has that conduit from the garage access panels to the Frontier service box. They'll have to figure out while one is yours, but if they've been installing awhile it should be easy. If not, you'll see them calling a shift supervisor to get some help. Since he's fishing brand new fiber, keep in mind this will take him some time. He could do it in 10 minutes, or it could be 45 minutes. The easy part is everything AFTER running the fiber line. He will run ethernet into the house to your routers location. Since it's the WIFI and network router, I put it in the hallway right inside the garage door. It's perfectly centered in my house, so I have good coverage in my 1500 sq foot home.

@twennywonn 6 месяцев назад

It took you 7 minutes to say you rebooted the ONT.

@SchubertTech 6 месяцев назад

well, to be precise, I rebooted the fiber converter AND the router. I guess I could start every video with a BLUF: Bottom Line Up Front. However, if you scroll through comments on this video you'll notice people are still confused, or having problems despite the 7 minute explanation on WHY it only takes that...

@twennywonn 6 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech the thing is this is what you typically have to do before switching a router on any ISP.

@SchubertTech 6 месяцев назад

@@twennywonn True, but it is also contrary to what Frontier's tech support told me, as well as others. So this video was made to help others who are/were confused by their Tech Support. Their tech support told me, "No reboot is needed. Just plug it in and it will start working." And, to their credit, some users have replied within this video that it DID work for them.

@joshhardin666 Год назад

I found your video because I have a frontier installer coming to my house this weekend and I was curious what others were seeing real-world as far as equipment installs and configurations so I can appropriately set my expectations and see what issues to expect as far as interfacing my current internal network infrastructure. You mentioned that if you're going with wifi 6 you're only seeing 360mb/s - this strikes me as really strange. I have a netgear rax80 wifi6 router and within about 200' my link speeds with wifi6 equipment like my newer lenovo thinkpad x1 gen9 I get link speeds up to 2400Mb and can easily saturate a gigabit ethernet port that runs back to my desktop (unfortunately the rax80 only has gigabit interfaces, but it CAN do lagg if you have a managed switch if you have multiple clients and multiple points that you're trying to access. I think perhaps you weren't using a wifi6 client or you didn't have your router configured correctly for wide channels or something. Great call on the no-staples rule (smh), I can certainly believe that they'd want to because it's quick and easy, but yeah, I'll be happy to provide adhesive stick-up and screw down ethernet cable clips (I have a bunch for my own internal organization already), but that's ABSOLUTELY a good tip... do NOT allow installers to staple communications cables... and if I see them bring a stapler within a foot of the fiber line I'll certainly be having some words lol. that's crazy... Your video did inform me as to how a relative stock ONT install could look on the side of my house, and what ONT equipment they appear to be using (or used last year) so thank you, that is very helpful. Did they do the electrical installation of the power outlet for free? I'm curious how that'll go because there isn't any convenient external power in the location near where my utilities come into my house. I'm thinking that I might even request that they just bring fiber into the house and plug the ONT into one of my standard internal outlets (or more likely my network stack's UPS for enhanced reliability). Did they equip you with a UPS on your ONT or give you the option of one? I *DO NOT* want my network dropping if I lose power (and I'm really hoping they use battery back-ups on their neighborhood backhaul stacks as well). dropping network connections just because there's a neighborhood power outage for an hour or so is NOT acceptable. Further, it sounds like the ONT is doing NAT, is that correct? is there any way to allow it to bridge instead, so the external (world routable) address gets assigned to my internal router instead? I already have a proper pfsense internal router configuration (which I understand they won't support me on and that's totally fine by me). I just don't want to be stuck behind a NAT that I don't directly control. Thanks!

@SchubertTech 10 месяцев назад

My sincere apologies, for some reason I didn't see a RU-vid notification of your post. I try to reply to all within a day. I don't know if you still have these questions, but to answer: The outlet was installed there by the builder, KB Homes. The installers are not licensed electricians, so they're not going to put an outlet in for you. My wifi router is the NAT, and I can't think of any reason the optical converter would have a NAT, as there's only one WAN and one LAN connection. No battery back up provided by the ISP, and I have considered it. Honestly, in a power outage situation we are more likely using the cell phone, which these days often has a hot spot which can be your ISP/Wifi. Also newer cars have LTE/5G hotspots. I really doubt an installer would pull fiber beyond the access point of entry for the house for quite a few reasons. You could potentially relocate it yourself later using a fiber extender. Fiber has gotten way easier to terminate, but TBH it just doesn't seem practical. Cat5E can do up to 10Gig on short runs (

@joshhardin666 10 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech Thank you for your reply. Since I posted my previous comment, I got my frontier install and it's been a few months. They gave me an indoor ONT (nokia xs-010x-q) which is great and has "just worked" and an amazon eero 6 pro router that I promptly placed in a drawer to return to them unopened if I ever choose to cancel my service, lol. I plugged the ONT into the UPS I use for my network switch, router, and access point, plugged the 10g base-t ethernet port into the 10g card on my pfsense router pc, ran a speed test on my workstation (also with 10g ethernet) and as soon as I temporarily disabled my router's QOS setup, I was getting 2300/2300 when deployed with a 2g symmetrical plan. I was extremely happy. I get about 8ms pings, I did re-enable my QOS (this time with appropriate bandwidth settings for the new connection (2200mb/s limit) so that I never have to worry about buffer bloat (i'm using codelq), and everything went great. The installer ran fiber from the pole at the street to the top of my house, down it, and drilled a small hole next to the existing cable inlet and followed a parallel path right to where it needed to go. the installer was prompt, courtious, and was excellent at explaining all the various physical configuration possibilities and answered a few technical questions about how the backhaul network works and he was incredibly knowledgeable. a network tech, not just an installation tech. I've had a couple of very minor stints of downtime (maybe a couple mins here or there in the middle of the night), but without looking at the data I think it's either about the same or a little less than my previous cable service, which was pretty reliable. I'm pretty happy.

@SchubertTech 10 месяцев назад

@@joshhardin666 Awesome! Yes, I have had 3-4 outages in the 2+ years of Frontier ISP but they were short. Not really a big deal and better than Cox or Spectrum service I have had.

@sctrojans8812 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for this video. I have a tech coming over this Saturday. I already bought my router but it’s a modem/router. Should that be fine or should i strictly buy a router???

@SchubertTech 9 месяцев назад

you really should have a router only. If your modem/router has WAN and LAN ports then you could still use it. If there is no WAN port, then can NOT use it.

@javiervega7395 Год назад

Hi, do you recommend frontier. I live in hemet ca

@SchubertTech Год назад

Yes, I do. My install was professional, the service has been rock solid. Im not a big fan of the router they gave me but I think new customers get a newer, brand name router. So, yes. I recommend them

@truth5740 Год назад

The 1000 will come with a upgraded router and the range is the best 500 routers suck go for the GIg

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

@@truth5740 Are you talking about the router you got with the service, and there's nothing wrong with the 500 service itself? I'm using 500 with my own router and it seems to be working fine. BTW, my ONT looks like the one in the video except its black.

@l31007 Год назад

Has anyone experienced being throttled by Frontier. I have Spectrum. I get 300mbs on the speed test sites but anywhere else ive never went past 25mbs.

@PatricksDIY 11 месяцев назад

no, they do not throttle

@SoSaysYou 3 месяца назад

Can I run my fiber straight from the ont to ethernet adapter straight to my tp link network switch?

@SchubertTech 3 месяца назад

No, you will need a router. A switch only transports traffic from one port to another port. If you are connecting multiple hosts (computers, game console, camera, smart phones, etc), you need something that assigns an IP address to each of those hosts. This is what a router (via the DHCP protocol) will do for you. This is also why only use ONE router connected to your fiber converter, but if you need more ports than your router has, THEN use a switch. For example, my entertainment center in my living room and bedroom each have 3 hosts (Xbox, Smart TV and AppleTV), so that's 6 ports right there. I have only 4 on my router. So I run a single run from each port, to four rooms (for me 3 bedrooms, 1 living room), and then put a switch in each of those 4 locations. So I have 28 ports (4 X 8 port gigabit switches: 1 port goes to router/ 7 ports available for network devices). Without a router, every device assigns itself an IP. Now, if you're really motivated you could go to every device and hard-configure them to an IP address within a single network (e.g. 192.168.1.x) but this is a really bad idea for network security reasons. Your router also acts as a firewall between your internal network and the outside internet using NAT and other things.

@robertobaez1686 Год назад

can you add more ethernet cables to the interface for a TV in a Basement ?

@SchubertTech Год назад

If you need more ports than your router has, just go buy a switch (not a router) and plug it into one router port. You only want ONE router, but you can use one or more switches to add more ports.

@thinkstrong280 Год назад

i have frontier gig out here in riverside county and technician told me same thing, just plug it in. I tried the power cycling method and i still coax to ethernet box still just flashed the Ethernet light. No service.

@SchubertTech Год назад

Did you email me earlier today? I had someone email the exact same scenario. Generally speaking, turn everything off. Then turn everything on sequentially, starting from the farthest point out (where the fiber or coax comes into your house), and then work inwards. The router inside your home that your laptop/desktop connect to should be the LAST device powered on.

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

It sounds like your setup uses MoCA, which I don't have. However, the ONT does take a few minutes to initialize.

@Dave-th2pd Год назад

Thanks for the video. I have a Frontier as my internet provider Do you recommend a modem/Router combo, if so which is compatible with Frontier? Thank you so much. Dave

@SchubertTech Год назад

I guess it depends. If you're fiber, then you can't combine them (fiber modem). If you want simplicity for coax provided internet, it's recommended. Me, myself, I prefer to break them apart because the technologies change. WIFI6 came out after the cable companies upgraded the DOCSIS (the protocol between the cable provider and your modem). And, if one fails, I can swap out just the part that failed. Another problem with combo's is the antenna are always interior (or at least all that I've seen). WiFi routers with external antenna will outperform, so that's another reason to have a cable modem separate from the router. Back to a combo, just get one from a reputable brand (Netgear is who I prefer) that's on a recent DOCSIS. Even if you have the slowest internet speeds, it does have an impact on your service quality.

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

I want to keep them separate. For that reason, and that the router is a part of MY network. I don't want to give up control of that. One thing about the EEEO is there is no web interface. All control is through a smartphone app. That means that EVERY bit of those commands and responses is going through some corporate server. My router (Asus) is providing enough WiFi coverage, and if it ever doesn't I should be the one to do something about it.

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@marklloyd1480 Totally agree. I understand they want to reduce their tech support load by allowing access into a provided router, but I don't want that. Then there's the additional efforts lately to use paid for services (ISP for example) to give FREE services to others. Amazon tries to do this with "Sidewalk," where your network forwards traffic from other people through your ISP. I turn that off on all devices

@B-ex4tl 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video. Question on the wiring from the fiber converter to the router: I have both network wire (Cat6) and coax from the converter to the router - are both wires needed? Is it simply redundancy? I disconnected the coax and it seemed to work fine. BTW, you at 1:18 in your video you pointed to you network wire and called it coax...

@SchubertTech 5 месяцев назад

You are right. Sometimes I switch the word and usually in my editing I catch it. The wire is NOT coax, but is Cat5E 4-pair twisted wire. So if I'm following, the installed came in fiber into your home, it goes into the fiber converter, and then comes out RJ45 and RG6 (Cat5e and coax), which both go to your wifi/router? Does your router have a coax OUT (marked TV, or something similar)? TBH, I can't think of a reason you'd need coax when having a fiber into your home, and a network cable (RJ45) except for legacy TV (e.g. pay per view shows, satellite TV, etc).

@jachmontilla 3 месяца назад

Hola me gustaria saber como puedo abir el puerto wan ya que conecto un cable de red y no me funciona el internet

@SchubertTech 3 месяца назад

@@jachmontilla El puerto WAN debe conectarse a un enrutador. No puede conectar directamente una computadora.

@wpiofm 11 месяцев назад

I'm not clear if Frontier's router got put in bridge mode.

@SchubertTech 11 месяцев назад

is there a problem with it?

@TK_DEMORCY Год назад

Where would I plug in my ethernet cable and I have a another box that says eero

@SchubertTech Год назад

If you look at the 3:46 time (pause it), then you'll see I have 3 cables on the fiber interface. Starting from the right, there's the fiber coming in from the curb, the power cable (which goes to the power brick above it in my case) and then the next cable is an ethernet cable (Cat5e or Cat6, RJ45 plug). That cable runs into the home and will connect to whatever router/WIFi device you use to distribute network connectivity in the home. On your router/Wifi device there are usually 5 (or more) ethernet plugs. All but one are usually grouped logically or physically together on the router/Wifi. One will be by itself and typically say "WAN". This is the port that will connect to the fiber converter port I mentioned in the last paragraph (far left connector in my video example, @03:46 time). The other ports might say "LAN" and be numbered numerically (1 - 4, or sometimes 1-8). Let me know if that answers your question.

@bobcooper6967 8 месяцев назад

I like the idea that you can use your own router instead of the one issued by the fiber provider. However, Just how did you connect your wifi router inside you house to the ONT outside. You mentioned a coax cable but you need an ethernet cable going to the router. you said nothing about which ports that you used on the ONT or your router. It would really be helpful with a little bit more details.

@SchubertTech 8 месяцев назад

Frontier has both cable and fiber, so that's why I'm mentioning both. It just depends on what was buried at the time of your being built. __Step 1 is ISP conversion__ Step 1A) If you have coax ISP, then COAX (RG-6) coming into your home, and hitting a cable modem. This scenario: Coax in, ethernet RJ45 out. Step 1B) If you have fiber optic ISP, then it's coming in fiber, and hitting a fiber to ethernet converter (the _first_ gateway). This scenario: Fiber in, ethernet RJ45 out. __Step 2 is distribution through your house__ Step 2) You'll run Cat5E, or Cat6 from the LAN side of the initial converter, into your router (WIFI or wired) on the WAN side. __Step 3 connecting local network devices__ Step 3) Assigning wifi credentials (SSID, password) or hardwire (cat5E/6). If your router has hardwire ports, your local devices will connect on the LAN side (not WAN). Wifi devices are assumed by your router to be LAN. Geek trivia: Some wifi routers will allow you to do session security where WIFI devices can't talk to other devices on LAN. Logic being, if you have a "guest"with Wifi access, you don't want them to be a security threat within your LAN. When you look at your IPv4 settings for any of the network devices in your house (not the router though), you'll see an IP, subnet, and default gateway. The default gateway is your router's IP address. If you look at the router's WAN network settings, the "default gateway" will be the IP of the converter from cable/fiber (LAN side). I might make another video just to explain the topology from a high level. Did this explain it better than the video?

@cam5816 6 месяцев назад

I have the same questions. I am very confused about how this works. I have a way better router than what the ISP gave my parents but they know nothing so they paid to rent a unit and the guy unplugged the one I had gotten them and now I can’t figure out how to set it back up without a modem. I don’t fully really understand how anything is connected besides the wall Ethernet port maybe replacing the modem to connect to the ONT outside but the ONT is locked in a box outside and I have no idea if I disconnect the router and put in the new one whether or not either will actually be able to work.

@cam5816 6 месяцев назад

Did you ever do this and get it figured out? I’m really worried about screwing up my parents internet by unplugging the router from the wall Ethernet jack but the Wi-fi sucks in their house, they are paying top dollar for service, and no other Ethernet port in the house even connects to the internet for some reason so something’s got to give and the high end 6E Netgear router I already had setup (before the ISP took it off) is the best option.

@SchubertTech 6 месяцев назад

@@cam5816 Are you asking me? Yes, I followed step by step what's in the video and it worked for me. I replaced the not-very-advanced WIFI router that the ISP gave me, with my own WIFI6E with external antennas and it's working great. I can actually go across the street to my neighbors house, and still get videos streaming through my wifi on a MacBook Pro laptop. Routers typically have one WAN port, and then 4 or more LAN ports. I think I'm going to record another video on this topic and maybe explain in detail what each device is doing, why, and what to do when replacing one, some, or all.

@brap17x 7 месяцев назад

Frontier fiber in NYS here, I cannot get it work. My orbi doesn’t receive internet. I followed your directions too

@SchubertTech 7 месяцев назад

OK, so let's start at the beginning. Did it work when the technician installed it? What's changed since the initial installation?

@brap17x 7 месяцев назад

Yes, it’s been working since day one. But I wanted to stop using the frontier router, rather use the orbi WiFi 6 mesh system that I have. From what I have read it sounds like, frontier is making the router a permanent fixture for internet. The ONT will not give my Orbi an IP address. It just sucks because I will get a double NAT, then to fix that I have to port forward two routers with the same ports, was just hoping to bypass it. I think frontier wins. And if I want 2gig it’s the same modem, just with a moca adapter connected that has 2 gig ports. Lol

@SchubertTech 7 месяцев назад

@@brap17x It's exceptionally unlikely they are blocking your Orbi. In the old days cable ISPs used to bind to the MAC address of your cable modem/router, but then they just created the ability to clone your MAC. Worst case scenario you could do something similar but I don't think it's necessary. We can look at this two directions, your router inward, and then your router outward (towards the ISP). First, you mention you can't get internet, but can you connect to your Orbi management web page? If you don't know how to find this, turn on your computer's Wifi, connect to the Orbi, and then look at your connection properties (usually under IPv4 adapter settings). Look for "default gateway." This is the address for your Orbi router (or any router). Go to a browser and type in that IP address, what do you see? If you are able to get into the portal, we know your router is up. I'd suggest next turning off the router and the fiber converter (where your Frontier comes into the home). Wait about 2 minutes, and turn ONLY the fiber on. You should see it take about 4-5 minutes to sync everything back up. Now, go turn on your Orbi.don't do a double NAT. It's a tremendously bad idea. Having two routers is not practical and only going to make your network devices very unstable. You only have one ONT port in use now, right? If there's two, then it tiny bit complicates things. You could put a switch (NOT ROUTER) to combine two 1 Gig ports, to ONE 2.5 Gig port on your router, but you'd need to make sure the switch and your Orbi are 2.5G capable.

@glfnrtrvr Год назад

I am thinking about switching from Cox to Frontier. I thought that fiber will still run during a power outage. Phone service, internet? But I see on your video that it does connect to electrical power. In the event of a power outage, is Frontier down too? Thanks Does an old house that previously had Verizon telephone (landline) service, need to be completely rewired for fiber optic service?

@SchubertTech Год назад

They may try to sell you a re-wire, but there's no technical reason (unless your old wiring isn't working) for you to need it. Many people think they need "the very best," but Cat5E will do up to 10 gig on shorter runs, like a home would have. Most home service never uses over a 1/2 gig (500Mbps) and most home networking gear is gigabit. Cat5E handles 1 GbE (gigabit ethernet) just fine. Cat6 is just a tiny bit better and will have zero real increase in performance for most (99.999%) homes. They should be able to put the Frontier box at/near the old ISP/Phone service entry point, and then swing everything over to their device(s). Yes, no matter the physical medium (coax, fiber, wireless) you'll need power for a demodulation device (like you see in the video). The exception is a traditional telephone line (POTS coming via copper wire) which carries a voltage on the line, which powers your telephone. This assumes it's a landline, a wireless phone will need it's own power. If you are needing reliable phone during a power outage, then you could buy a small UPS normally used for a small computer and use it to power the Frontier device(s). Also keep in mind during a power outage scenario, your cell phone should still work as cell sites usually have a power back up if commercial power fails. It's a common complaint in residential areas that they dont want the noise, but it's still something part of the build out for new cell sites.

@marklloyd1480 Год назад

We had a power outage a few days after I got Frontier internet installed. It worked for an hour and a half (which is as long as my UPS lasted). It was fine after the outage (the local cable was out for more than 12 hours). I have not yet switched the Phone, but am considering it.

@ddandkk1264 Год назад

If the power goes out so does the power feeding the main fiber vhub.

@sonicmoj1 Год назад

@@ddandkk1264 Good to know. I have a whole backup standby generator. We lost power yesterday due to heavy winds and xfinity comcast internet went out which is why I'm considering Fiber but it sounds like even though my generator is powering my whole home, if power is out on my road that means the main fiber vbhub is out as well regardless of my generator powering my house correct? If so, then fiber doesn't offer any advantages with regards to power outages moreso than my cable internet from Xfinity is my reasoning is correct.

@thomasfreeman7770 Год назад

@@sonicmoj1Frontier uses a PON( passive optical network). Power is only needed at the frontier central office where they have backup power and at your location that can have backup if you install a UPS. No power is needed at neighborhood hubs. As long as power is available at both ends it will work.

@WOE_STIIZY 9 месяцев назад

Hi quick question… so I have fiber 1 gig with the eero and too it is a cat6 cable… can I buy a gaming router (wifi6) and still use it as long as I jut restart my router from the actual box out side?

@WOE_STIIZY 9 месяцев назад

Although with the eero I get 800 up 700down but when playing games I notice my ping went up used to be 10 now getting 20 and I don’t know if it’s because of the eero like not being fast enough??

@SchubertTech 9 месяцев назад

The easiest way is to power cycle the box outside, and add the new router (like I did in this video). And yes, it will bind with the new router. Keep in mind when you play games, you're connecting to 3rd party servers. I would use the built in network tester in your console, versus in game stats, as your benchmark. I use WIFI6 and I get about 14-19ms latency unless I connect to European servers, then it's 140ms. Another reason is the game changes with time. MW2 game servers is reported by a lot of people as dropping in performance when Call of Duty MW3 came out (about 2 weeks ago).

@irvinwilson3245 Год назад

Reddit seems to be having issues at the moment so I thought I'd try a question here. Just got Frontier fiber today in an older home. I expected that the installer would run cat5 to my main interior location but instead he used existing coax and hooked me up from the outside unit to a Sagemcom FWR226e fiber wireless router via a MoCa cable connection on the back of it. My question is can I use a MoCa adapter like a GoCoax and then hook straight up to a OpnSense box via ethernet instead? I'm kind of confused on what that Sagemcom box is even doing other than providing wifi. Thank you!!

@SchubertTech Год назад

I apologize. I did see your reply and forgot to get back to it. So you have fiber coming in, converted to coax, and then finally ethernet/Cat5e? If I'm following, then yes, you could run ethernet from the fiber point into your home. The installers are private contractors that get paid a set amount typically and so they're going to do the least or bare minimum in most cases. So if they can use existing coax to save running new cat5, that MIGHT be the reason. I'm making a few assumptions at this point.

@irvinwilson3245 Год назад

@@SchubertTech Thanks for the reply. I tried one of those GoCoax MoCa adapters and that did not work. Ended up just using their modem/router/whatever as is. Oddly, or at least to me, the public IPs I got just route right on thru to the local devices. I doubt that's proper but basically I'm in "get it working" mode at the present.

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@irvinwilson3245 When you say the public IP goes to inside devices, what's the leading three octets? It would be extremely odd they're using a publicly routable IP for your LAN.

@irvinwilson3245 Год назад

@@SchubertTech youtube seems to be deleting my reply. Not sure why. Or I'm blind. Anyway it's 50 dot 122 dot 4. I'll try it that way

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@irvinwilson3245 Yes, I'm showing that's a CIDR assigned to Frontier. And you're getting IPs assigned in that /24? That's odd. Public IPs are usually something you have to pay extra for.

@4000marcdman 7 месяцев назад

Is 250 up and down the best 5g service can do on wifi with the same black box you have? I have 1gb up and down while using an ethernet connection.

@SchubertTech 7 месяцев назад

Are you meaning Wifi6 perhaps? I was getting close to 400M up and down with Wifi6 (and beam forming). I only purchased the 500M up/down service, so over ethernet I get 580M dn/ ~480M up. With the Frontier provided Wifi I was only getting about 380M up and 300M down.

@4000marcdman 7 месяцев назад

@SchubertTech no its 5g at times its up to 400 up and 300 down. I live in California. If that matters.

@SchubertTech 7 месяцев назад

@@4000marcdman I'm in California too. When you say 5G, I'm assuming you mean 5G wireless (cell phones). If you mean 5Gig, then I don't have that level. TBH I didn't realize they had gone past 2Gig speeds to homes. Yes, it looks like 5Gig is available to my house. The problem is your ISP pipe can be huge, but that doesn't mean it can be filled. I can download a 150Gig game from Microsoft, but it never goes about 160Mbps download. So if I bought a 5Gig pipe, Im going to likely always be only using 5-15% of that bandwidth. If you're multicasting to a lot of people, then maybe you could use that level on the uplink side, but I have a feeling they're going to start looking into why a home user has such a strong uplink network demand and might look to flip you to a business account.

@4000marcdman 7 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech yeah I mean 5G like aobe 2.4 and below wifi6. I think lol. So upgrading my gateway to a router is pointless? I have computers that can receive wifi6e.

@SchubertTech 7 месяцев назад

@@4000marcdman No, I think Wifi6 and 6E is worth it. Well, I'd say it's worth it if you have external antenna's. One of the advantages of the newer Wifi tech is beam forming. So the receiver closest to your network devices are preferred to Tx/Rx the data, and those farther away won't clutter up the RF or be listening. I did notice the 5G Frontier service comes with a crazy good wifi router, but again, just never think you're going to use it. For what it's worth a router for a home, is typically the same as a gateway. It's the interface between your WAN (the ISP) and LAN (all your devices at home). Upgrade the router if it has newer features or there's a performance increase you'll actually use. If your downlink (downloads, streaming video, etc) speed is matching your ISP speed, then bump it up. If you're paying for 1Gig but never going over 500M down or up, then upgrading is a waste of money. Some routers will show you stats of your bandwidth usage, so it will take some digging on your part to figure it out.

@cuttheloop 2 месяца назад

@1:15 bro... That's cat6 not coax

@SchubertTech 2 месяца назад

You are absolutely correct. Well, technically it's Cat5E, but you're right. That's a tick I have and sometimes I catch it in post-editing. I have a tendency to be thinking one thing but actually say something different.

@ChunkyMonkaayyy 5 месяцев назад

Seeing 700meg wirelessly from iPhone to Eero 6pro.

@SchubertTech 5 месяцев назад

Which version of iPhone is hitting 700meg wifi?

@user-wd4ih7xe2v 3 месяца назад

7:32 I see him building it

@teeduck 11 месяцев назад

Can you hard wire to computers or tv without a router. ?

@SchubertTech 11 месяцев назад

If you only connect ONE network device, yes. You can run JUST a TV to the LAN port. Or JUST a single computer. As soon as you have a 2nd network device, you need a router. The router has a single IP on the WAN side to your ISP device (cable modem, fiber to ethernet, etc), and then assigns different IPs from it's own,internally created pool (192.168.x.x is most common, such as 192.168.1.2, etc). All your network devices will send a "discovery" message to your router saying, "I'm *THIS* MAC address, what's my IP?" To which the router assigns the next available in the pool I mentioned above as a broadcast saying, "MAC *this* your IP address is x.x.x.x". Without a router, there's nothing to "reply" to the initial discovery query. You'll have to manually configure the IP, and hence you can see why this is not ideal or easy for a beginner in most cases. The pool and IP assignment process above is called DHCP, or Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. It's the easiest way to have muliple devices managed on a LAN, and hence, it's built into most consumer routers. You can turn it off, but not recommended. A "switch" doesn't have DHCP, and wouldn't pay attention anyway, because it's not worried about Layer 3 (where IPs reside). A switch just keeps track of paths between network devices, and then stores it so the 2nd, 3rd and times after it already knows where to send a data packet from the 1st time it resolved the path. (E.g. all your network devices are asking for responses from 192.168.1.1 and port 1 is always responding... So now any .1 query it just automatically sends to port 1 (skipping the path resolution process).

@teeduck 11 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech ok. Will Frontier let me use my own modem/ router , then I can have hardwire connections to multiple devices? My current cable isp runs to my modem/ router allowing this. Also , does the Frontier service box require a battery backup when the power goes out?

@SchubertTech 11 месяцев назад

@@teeduck Is the Frontier ISP going to be cable internet, or fiber?

@teeduck 11 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech fiber

@SchubertTech 11 месяцев назад

@@teeduck So they will put a box in which converts from optical to electrical (ethernet). You can use your own router for this part. It can be wifi obviously. I created this video for when you decide, after the installer has left, to replace the Frontier provided wifi router with your own. If you have your own at time of installation, there's no reason the installer wouldn't just use yours (over theirs). The installers are 3rd party contractors so they're getting paid either way and not really too invested in Frontier's equipment versus yours.

@BennysHumom 8 месяцев назад

OMG! Why are things so much more complicated. I need to upgrade on a Frontier system and it has been an absolute nightmare!! My elderly father lives in the house and only uses cable to watch tv. His grown children and grandchildren who visit need it only for cell phones and seldomly for laptop use, no gaming is used. What is the least expensive, lest complicated system to use. I'm not happy with Frontier. HELP!!

@SchubertTech 8 месяцев назад

Are you just trying to replace the Wifi?

@BennysHumom 8 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech We keep getting notifications from Frontier that we NEED to upgrade due to the fact that Frontier is no longer supporting copper wire, but is using fiber optics. The increased monthly cost is not worth it for my elderly father's purpose of just watching tv. I'm thinking I should just move to another cable company and not deal with the necessary upgrades of Frontier. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.

@SchubertTech 8 месяцев назад

@@BennysHumom I guess a couple questions: When you say "costs" what are they saying the fiber will cost? They have 3 different plans, 500M, 1Gig, and 2 Gig. I think they do have faster than 2 Gig in some areas. 500M is $49 a month. I understand elderly are on fixed income and so, have you asked about income assisted plans? They have discounts for people on fixed incomes. Secondly, what are they saying needs to be done? If they want to go from copper to fiber, that's really all work outside your house with the only exception being the point of entry (your garage typically). They can actually use the same conduit in some cases. If your dad is watching TV on copper, it suggests he's on DSL. Is he on DSL? If so they're going to be swapping the DSL modem for a fiber converter. Yes, there might be a bit more depending on how you're getting TV, DSL and distributing it. How is he physically getting signal to the TVs? Is there a converter box on every TV? How are those converters getting signal (coax, twisted pairs, etc)?

@arao888 4 месяца назад

Is there any downside to converting the fiber to coax and using a MoCa adapter?

@SchubertTech 4 месяца назад

Capacity is the main downside. Fiber is going to have nearly zero interference, low loss and higher speeds. Is there a specific reason for coax?

@arao888 4 месяца назад

@@SchubertTech I think majority of residential fiber installs convert to coax since homes already have coax. I guess its easier and more convenient for the installers too.

@SchubertTech 4 месяца назад

@@arao888 I guess you could, but I've been in structured wiring since 1988, and we've been advocating for pre-wire to include CAT5E/6 for decades now. Older construction, yes, will be coax but most installers will have a spool of Cat5E on their truck and run it for you. In my case the home developer ran fiber into the home, the ISP installer installed fiber to ethernet converter, and finally ran Cat5E into my house. I had him run it across the garage into my central hallway. There is my WIFI router and then I ran my own cat5E throughout the house.

@TechDoneRight1 Год назад

what area are you in?

@SchubertTech Год назад

East of the 215, between Ethanac and McCall. If you know where the mortuary is, behind it (east).

@TechDoneRight1 Год назад

@@SchubertTech ahhh the KB homes ya? Im not too far from ya. I also have frontier and was using their 2gig service for a while but I would get constant drops. they have a 5 gig now and kind of worried about the same issue. What service do you have and do you get drops?

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@TechDoneRight1 Yes, you are right about the neighborhood. I had two crazy people come to my door from my YT channel, so I'm a little more vague about where I live. I have no drops at all. I work all day, and my wife is up all night. So our ISP gets streamed nearly 24/7/365. Since upgrading my router to a WIFI6E high-end gaming router, I never even have to reboot it. I have Frontier fiber, but I only pay for 500Mbps. My day job is "test and measurement," sales of equipment that creates up to 800Gbps of traffic, and have gear at home that can create a steady stream of 10Gbps. I can safely say with 5 smart TVs, about 7-8 Echo's, 2 XBOXs, 12 Ring cameras, and a litany of other network devices I never push my ISP past 500 Mbps of constant traffic. So, buying gigabit would be a waste.

@TechDoneRight1 Год назад

@@SchubertTech are you serious!!! Yikes!!! Lol. I mean no offense but you have such a small channel. People are just weird. It’s no wonder people who have a huge following are so awkward in public…..they just never know who they’re dealing with. Anyway…..good to hear you’re happy with the performance! I just found it weird that the service only dropped during the 2gig install. I changed router and switch to handle 2.5gig and still just a nightmare of experience. Would just go blank during a game or movie.

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@TechDoneRight1 True it is small, but it only takes one or two to make it negative in ways. I also publish on NextDoor links to these videos, and probably 95% who view are not subscribed. So most who view are nearby, in most cases. It's also like I jinx'ed things by talking about it. This morning at 8AM my Wifi from the router stopped working. ISP was always up and once I rebooted the router I could join the wifi channels again (2.5MHz and 5 MHz). Weirdly my guest Wifi stayed up. Might be time to start looking at a new Wifi router.

@EternalFOE 9 месяцев назад

y the fucc is the internet COMPANY HAVE SO MUCH FUCCN OUTAGES EVERY OTHER FUCCN WEEK😂 dam man and then it takes a 4-7 days to get a technician out here wtf💀

@SchubertTech 9 месяцев назад

Are you on coax or fiber? I have had 2 outages in two years, and neither are recent.

@EternalFOE 9 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech fiber, i have had more than 5 outages in a month

@EternalFOE 9 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech only reason i stay is because its probably the cheapest internet for 500 upload and download speeds i pay 40/month

@SchubertTech 9 месяцев назад

@@EternalFOE What neighborhood are you in? I'm in Talavera which is behind the mortuary. There's been nothing but rock solid ISP here.

@EternalFOE 9 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech in long beach

@truth5740 Год назад

If you get frontier never get the 500 pay a little extra and get the 1000 you will never have no problems 500 is ok 500 is like having regular internet but try the 1000 and now they go all the way to 5000mbps and the upload is the same they match it’s the best and the 2 gig come with a upgraded routers 🔥🔥

@SchubertTech Год назад

I have to disagree. If your devices are all 380Mbps up and down, then you'll not be using that extra 1/2 gig. Then, most network servers you hit can't reach it anyway. I download software and games often. The Microsoft servers will peak at 180Mbps. Just cause your line speed can hit a gig, doesn't mean the servers at the other end will send it. OK, so you can go to a speed check website and hit it, but that's about it. Most people don't realize their streaming only uses a 1K bandwidth. So even if I have 3-4 rooms streaming, and an XBOX downloading the newest game, I'm still not getting close to 500Mbps. Finally, even if you're a content streamer (twitch, RU-vid, etc), you'll never need more than a few meg upstream. Then again, people spend 100k on a new Corvette and then sit in traffic on the 15 everyday.... so... it's a person's choice, but I still think the smart play is 1/2 gig. Keep in mind my day job is "test and measurement" of networks. I'm used to real world numbers, not marketing hype.

@truth5740 Год назад

@@SchubertTech why is there a 80% chance that people who got the 500mbps will cancel there service then people who have the full. Gig ? You may not use more or may not need it but people who get the half gig will cancel there service because they don’t see much difference on speed but full gif will out beat any other service offering a gif compare a gig from frontier and a gig from Espectrum and you will see what I’m talking about

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@truth5740 Where are you getting this 80%? There are millions of people who tolerate 50Mbps from traditional broadband (cable or "coax"). I have 20+ years in telecom (wireless and wireline) and follow industry periodicals. In all of that, I've never seen/heard a scenario where someone cancels 500Mb service for the simple fact that a 1G or 2G exists. Again, fiber is fiber. Your service doesn't get more reliable because you bought a bigger pipe. Yes, you get a better router, but anyone who's finding this page is replacing their router. Hence, the "Freebie" from Frontier is not being used for various reasons. In my case I have Wifi6 router with beam-forming and external antennas. I have 11 security cameras, 2 XBOXes (ONE and Series S), 5 Apple TVs, smartphones, and I stream Twitch when I game. With all of that, I'm still never hitting even close to the max of 500Mbps, which again is moot if Wifi is only capable of getting up to 385Mbps. Eventually I will run hardwire (Cat6 twisted pair), but it's really not going to improve my performance since I'm in a neighborhood with few competing WiFI networks. Apartments would see more improvement going from Wifi to Wired.

@JamesGoodin-USMC-5963 Год назад

I disagree because with 500Mb you can stream like 75 devices. Besides, do you think that most of the web pages you visit will be giving you a 1Gb connection? Even streaming services limit your data rate based on your resolution. 1Gb is a waste for most home users. But if you want to throw money at an idle connection then go ahead. 500Mb is the sweet spot IMHO.

@SchubertTech Год назад

@@JamesGoodin-USMC-5963 What would you stream 75 of all at the same time? You can't log into Netflix 75 times. You can't listen to 75 audio streams at the same time. I have streaming devices in every room, both bathrooms, garage and backyard (I run two Amazon Echo's for stereo in the garage and backyard) and I still don't come close. I have 2 XBOXs, 4 smart TVs, Ring Alarm and Cameras, etc. You can't get a home more heavily streamed than mine, and you have 3 adults using them. I'm never waiting for content to load, and I Twitch stream lag free at 1080.

@erniechiasson Год назад

Cable is your friend WI_FI to dangerous , I

@SchubertTech Год назад

Funny you comment that now. I'm in the process of running Cat5E all around the house. When I'm done, only mobile devices (cell phone, and laptop) will be WiFi, and everything else (Smart TV, Xboxes, computers, etc) will be wired.

@gilbertramirez5584 10 месяцев назад

So your telling me you cant change the local ip address on your new router??? Hummm sounds fishy

@SchubertTech 10 месяцев назад

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I set my local IP LAN to 192.168.1.0/28 network. Are you meaning the LAN side of the optic converter?

@gilbertramirez5584 10 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech you said you didn’t like the ip and subnet, right?

@SchubertTech 10 месяцев назад

@@gilbertramirez5584 True, changing it is trivial. It was just a weird annoyance. I've had probably at least 5+ routers over the years, and they always use a /24 on a normal LAN network of 192.168.x.x with 255.255.255.0 subnet. Since a LAN is local to just your home, it was an annoyance they deviated from what Netgear, TP-Link, LinkSys, Asus, and literally EVERY other router used. To put it another way, if 99% of the routers do it differently, why go with a non-standard CIDR/IP range?? The only reason I care is I have a home LAN lab. I have a smaller IP pool (200 hosts)I allow DHCP to assign traffic, and then non-DHCP range I have configured for test servers. So if I kept their router, it creates, for me, more work. This doesn't apply to 99.999% of the people out there, but was the primary driver in my annoyance in their non-standard IP/CIDR. If they had just gone from 192.168.0.0/24 to 192.168.1.0/24, ok that's easy to go reconfigure on my servers. Trivial.. I know... The real reason I wanted to replace is I didn't want a router that Frontier has back-door entry, and my router had beam forming. I've been getting lately 400MBps up and down with Wifi6/beamforming router, and that's with legacy wifi devices that don't fully take advantage of the newer Wifi6 capabilities.

@gilbertramirez5584 10 месяцев назад

@@SchubertTech I’ve installed, programmed and trained over 1000 systems: PTZ trackers, NVRs with built in POE! So whats the ip and sub net on those? Trust me a sub net range is what you want it to be for minimum security measures! I did over 25 I502 in Colorado during the green rush when all grow-dispensaries needed 100 cameras recording for 45 days

@SchubertTech 10 месяцев назад

@@gilbertramirez5584 So, I would assume if you've installed 1000 systems, and 995 of those had a standardized IP/CIDR, and then you had 5 that decided to do something different... you'd have no problems changing it but still wonder, "OK why did you have to make it different?" I've been Solaris 9, 10, CCNA, Sec+, etc certed for decades, and anything that reduced my need to re-work, is favorable. Anything that makes me re-do work, is an annoyance. When it's unnecessary, it's trivial, but still... an annoyance.