NEW SKILL ALERT 🚨 Meet 'the unofficial Andrade' 

As an American, I’m also supporting her!!🇺🇸❤️🇧🇷

México too

Argentina too

Italy too!

Canada too!

My worry is the pressure of doing it for the first time on the biggest stage in the world. She’s a great gymnast and I would feel more optimistic if she had already done it at another lesser competition. It would be cool if she did.

@@tanithschneider3051 I believe this is the type of skill she would do once and never again! So maybe I'll only do it in Paris

Hate to say it but quite a few gymnasts have trained this vault. Maroney, Biles, Un-jong, Skinner... Aside from Un-jong (I believe in Rio?) who failed to make all 3 rotations noone has ever tried to compete it. Ofcourse I'd love Rebecca to nail this but I hate these like "unofficial named skill" videos that act like cause it's thrown about in training into a pit it's suddenly realistic. Clickbait af

Rebeca só o fará se sentir que está preparada, se ela se sentir confiante e confortável, ela sabe do se potencial, ela já se provou e escrever se nome na ginástica do Brasil, ela não tem a prentençao de se melhor que a Biles, acho que para ela tudo bem a Biles ficar com o ouro, para nós Brasileiros está tudo bem O USA ficar com todos os ouros de Paris( e provavelmente serão campeao por conta da Biles, pois se não fosse ela nós teríamos uma competição equilibrada entre USA e China). Só queremos que a Rebeca, a Flávia, Jade e Júlia passem bem e Saudável, só quero uma final segura para elas. Medalha sera apenas 3, todas treinaram, todas lutaram para está lá, todas merecem serem respeitadas, ainda mais em uma competição que subjetiva e depende da interpretação do outro, que pode ou não ser imparcial.

FIG undervalues vaults, not just twisting skills.

This vault is very difficult 😑 trying to get 3 twists around with no margin for error or simply being just short because there is not alot of time to get it around all the way. It appears in training that she is very close but in reality if you land short a significant injury may result as you don't know where you are while twisting. I truly hope she does attempt and make it. Make it her own. As a former gymnast a triple on floor was extremely difficult to get all the way around but on vault 😲 oh my goodness. Good luck Rebecca I'm very anxious to see how it turns out

Andrade is Brazilian, her propeller is Daiane dos Santos

​@@strngmgc No it's simone as she is the best in the world and the one everyone is catching up to

​@@motives88if you're not familiar with gymnastics just say it. The world is not United States.

Yall-- no shade but are yall familiar with gymnastics at all?? Rebecca's propeller is Daiane dos Santos.

É pq Rebecca é um nome comum nós EUA, principalmente nas comunidades judaicas

@@danielzugueibcoutinho5554 mas não com a nossa pronúncia

Just the Andrade was a bit off but the effort is appreciated anyway :)

Well, I find that the recent video from CBG showing her training it (likely over a very soft mat or possibly over a foam pit) is actually very promising. She seems to be finishing the 2.5 twists around 30-40 cm (~1 ft) above where the ground likely is, which means she has enough time to finish the last 0.5 twist and land comfortably. The Korean gymnast was definitely not prepared/powerful enough for it and kept landing with 1/4 twist missing, which is absolutely terrible and I'm amazed she didn't obliterate her ACL like that. But I believe Rebeca is very attuned to her body and capabilities nowadays and she won't go for it if she doesn't feel springy enough to get the necessary height to safely complete all 3 twists during vault finals. Or if she messes up her block or whatever. She's aware that another Olympic vault gold medal and a named skill is not worth ending her career for. She could get it named next year if she's not fully confident in it for Paris. But from the most recent videos it seems like she is currently able to land it safely, given a very good run and block of course. She's a fast twister, as seen by her amazing Chengs.

@sleepy5017 -- I am worried about Rebecca as well. She is an amazing gymnast and phenomenal vaulter, but that kind of twisting is really hard on the knees and ankles. I just worry about Rebecca's health. She has already had so many injuries that I would absolutely hate it if she has another career-threatening injury. I want to see her around for many years to come!

@sleepy5017 they keep saying unofficial Andrade skill triple twisting yurechenko but someone could easily do it before her then it won't be hers

Do you think she will do it at another competition ahead of Olympics 2028 to get it in the codebook

And gold

And gold

And gold!

Gold 🥇

In that video her coach was on the vault pushing her up.

@@sleepy5017 i saw that yeah, but even with a spot from the coach her landing was probably the best and most rotated out of everyone in this list

​@@TwistedApple ..because she had extra height and stabilization from the coach. The issue is getting all that height to be able to complete the twists safely. And we know Hong wasn't he cleanest by far, her Cheng always stressed me out cause she was clearly whipping it around and hoping for the best. She wasn't tight enough in her twisting to land the Amanar comfortably with extra time, so I think it was pretty crazy of her to go for the TTY, but it's North Korea, so the wellbeing of the athletes is usually not their main priority.

She already is one of the best imo. Currently has the world's best cheng after all

In my opinion, Rebecca is one of the top 3 vaulters in women’s history. Simone (because of difficulty, ingenuity, and tenure), McKayla M (the highest and most iconic Amanar we’ve ever seen) and Rebecca for having the best Cheng in the world.

And all three of them are so wonderful and deserving. ❤

See the video !! They showed omg

Thing is her Amanar is good anyway

@@sollte1239, it depends. She tends to finish that last half twist on her amanar pretty late.

That sounds a bit strange, considering she always gets her Amanar very comfortably around, but struggles to land it precisely, in terms of ideal finishing position. Over the last cycle we've seen her land it almost always with a big bounce forward, because she's probably over-powering it out of safety. She might also just prefer backwards landings and want to train the triple because she has the height and twisting speed for it. It's possible the Amanar feels weird to her because she's been doing the DTY for so long, alongside the Cheng, so now adding only a half twist to land forward may be hard to calibrate. But idk, I'm not in her head and I'm not even a gymnast, I just love watching this sport. From the most recent video it seems like she can land the TTY safely, based on the height she's at before the last 0.5 twist, and I'm sure she won't take unnecessary risks to her knees just for another gold medal, given how well her career is going. I hope Simone goes after her, so that she's not swayed by anything that happens and only makes the decision based on her gut in the moment.

​@@calihapamamavideo of the triple out

@@robertoomena3801 I saw. It’s close. Still slightly underrotated, but very close.

I noticed that. I guess the Brazilian Olympic committee wants to keep the final result to themselves and I don’t blame them

Based on her hair color in the clip (she dyes it often) this was filmed months ago so it's likely she's improved since then.

@@kitenne4944 agreed. This is just the footage they wanted the public to see. Just to rile everyone up. I don’t think anybody thinking strategically would show their hand

@@bleeka325strategically how? Like if they revealed a real triple twisting yurchenko all the girlies are just gonna suddenly bust theirs out too to compete? Idk man this isn't a particularly strategic sport but i guess if it's a truly legit vault we'll all have to speculate the reasoning for sharing this weirdly specific and underperfomed video clip...

@@_padfoot not necessarily avoid enticing others to switch up their routines but to play with their heads

She didn't even mean for this video to be released, the Brazilian Olympic Committee leaked it without her knowledge, so either she meant to keep it a secret for Paris or they're hyping it up when it's not even ready.

and thats exactly what happened! she got silver!

​@@mariacado1104 She could be holding it back until the vault finals

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Nah its half a more twist that an amanar and it's not a blind landing

@@ot12stan61 Then why hasn't anyone done it since 2000?

@@ansonpangSimone was literally training the skill and dropped it due the difficulty rating not being worth it. And that’s when she moved onto the Yurchenko double pike.

@adarshminj2543 remember everyone she hasn't completed the the vault yet to be named after her so if gets named after it would be almost perfect and she probably get gold because everyone else is doing almost the same vaults where as simones is the only different one that no one else can do. So Rebecca in my mind is the only one who can unsent her at the moment. Going to be very interesting exciting but curious who win the gold ✨️ on vault most likely obviously a stuck landing

@@ot12stan61 getting three twists around is far more difficult than amanar with blind landing. In 2012 Amanar was worth 7 tenths over dty so yeah tbh 5.8 will be crazy low for such a difficult vault

I miss seeing Tsuk type vaults

​@@chariezwane3981same! I think the only gymnasts who really do them now are European gymnasts, but it's still rare since many opt for front handsprings instead. Alexa does them too and she's great!

@@chariezwane3981 Amanar has become rare nowadays compared to a decade ago when almost all top girls could do amanar. Now it's mostly DTY

​@adarshminj2543 It's been so frustrating watching so many American gymnastics only have one vault prepared too. I would tell them to at least work on a 2nd w/a lower D score that's impeccably executed. Unless they have a physical excuse, they should all be doing two vaults.

@@KaiOpaka Tbh 'very difficult' vaults are just not worth it anymore due to their low start values now. Remember the time when amanar vault was a bench mark for winning the all around when it was worth 6.5/6.3 however it's not anymore. A solid dty is fine nowadays. But you are right though. Part of the problem is also the harsh deductions in the new code of points that just limits gymnast from trying new stuff and we can see that the execution standard have gone low over the last decade. I still miss Nastia, Carly, Khorkina, Shawn, Kexin, Mustafina, Komova era.

I agree! It’s something the sport def needs.

I wish Simone would bring back the Biles I!

​@@1itslaurahere1it's an extremely difficult and technical vault and she only landed it twice in comp before so idk if she'd bring it back. It would be amazing if she did both her vaults in Paris though. I love the biles I and I hope someone else trains it one day. Rebecca could definitely do it

@@murasakino101 agreed

@@murasakino101 if Rebeca could do the biles I, she would

The video literally addresses the last half twist not being completed.

I noticed this too. The video says that she has had struggles with her knee so the last half twist could be an issue. They don’t say that she did or didn’t do it In training. I think the Brazilian Olympic committee wants to keep the final seconds under wraps and I don’t blame them.

This might not even be the final video they have. This is just the one they released

@@bleeka325 Thanks! It would be so nice to see a triple, done with a great block off the table , and with super tight form , to a safe landing. I'm all in for the excitement of the games.

Simone was all over the internet practicing the YDP prior to debuting it. It may not have been "leaked," but it didn't stop her. If Rebecca and her coaches are confident in it, then she wouldn't let it stop her either.

Nem vale a pena se valer apenas 5.8 , eh muito arriscado

@@yurioliveira1436 e vai ser esse valor de 5,8 mesmo

@@yurioliveira1436 a última vez que ela se machucou foi fazendo tripla pirueta no solo. Teve que fazer a terceira cirurgia na época

@@nicoleoliveira2611 Mas era com ligação né? Tava na cara que não ia dar certo, ela sempre chegava com falta... Eles foram irresponsáveis de não tirar aquela passada.

murakami is retired. i liked her

you almost got it right. sunisa lee got bronze

​@@mariacado1104 That was all around. This is abt vault finals

The first time she did the cheng was also at the Olympics in Japan. She has already said in an interview, which took place a few weeks ago, that she will only do the new elements if she is confident.

@@materiassanfran6055 She debuted her Cheng months before on her instagram, where she was actually landing it; so no one was surprised at Tokyo when she debuted it. The TTY not so much; as we can see from the video released she is clearly under-rotated and most likely fell as they cut the landing.

even if simone falls and her coach was not standing there she would still win, and I believe you are right cause even if Andrade upgrades to TTY she still can fall short, simone is so consistent

@@materiassanfran6055 many people had already done a cheng. it was not considered to be elusive/impossible. no woman has done the TTY successfully and for good reason

It’s a little frustrating how unreliable beam scoring is especially. A perfectly hit routine even 6-8 years ago would’ve still almost have a full point of seemingly arbitrary deductions. Now, even the Chinese gymnasts with textbook accuracy still get at least 1.5 off. It’s madness

@KelsKingdom-h1qthats very true. I believe Kaitlyn ohashi? Was the last person to actually give Simone competition and win an AA against her

She’s always gonna be a close second, but Simone rarely misses. So unless it’s something tragic like in Tokyo, our queen is gonna stay on top

The lowering of all those vault scores was part of a revamp of the cop to make vault scoring more in line with the other events so 5.8-6 for a tty makes sense to me. An amanar is only worth 5.4 you can’t have a tty be a 6.4. If this were 2008 it would be a joke but with the way vaults are graded in the cop now 5.8 isn’t wild

@@samanthabutterfield5172 I disagree because we have top bar workers with D scores at 7.2. Top vaulters should be on a similar playing field

And just to clarify I think they should all be raised back up I think a 5.4 for an Amanar is insultingly low. A 5.4 beam or bars routine is nothing special.

@@adamtravis9380 Some of the most difficult release skills values are probably going to be downgraded at some point, as well as highly valued beam skills. The amount of bar workers working with that kind of difficulty is also very few, and the execution deductions are far more extensive than vault. The best vaulters are getting 4-5 tenths off and the best bar workers are getting an over a point deducted usually. Kaylia neymours and qiu qiyuan (the only ones with 7.2 start values) highest scores this year were 15.4-15.5 which, like biles 15.975 are huge anomalies. Most other gymnasts are around 6, simone biles is a 6.1 for example. With the twisting vaults it’s always been the step ups with twists are very uniform so you can’t have a bigger jump just because it’s new or hasn’t been done before

If having a move named after her was the goal, she should have competed it other events first for the experience outside the gym. Suni Lee debuted her upgrade at a couple of national events, and didn't have much success with it in competition in spite of practicing it successfully in the gym. Hopefully, she can bring it back for the Olympics, but there's also the matter of her kidneys being healthy.

I too would love for Rebeca to get her name in the COP on ANY apparatus but definitely not at the risk of injury. Having said that, I think she will only perform it if she is 100% sure that she can land it and I want her to.

@@sebastianbiscoito3132 Then you haven’t seen many Amanar, much less gymnastics.

@@geraldsonofgod It’s not worth it. Simone went from training the TTY to the YDP because it wasn’t worth it.

Not many can pull off amanar, so TTY is for the gods of the sport

@@adarshminj2543 Lol. No.

Apart from just difficulty there's very little margin for error between landing it really well and a landing that potentially results in crippling injury. If you landing facing the vault and you're under-rotated that's really hard on the ankles for a start. Then there's a risk of torsional fracture if you land while still twisting and don't get both feet planted at the same time.

Indeed. WAG Committee tended to undervalue twisting elements while overvalue double saltos for almost a decade. In comparison, the MAG Committee is more fair in evaluating element difficulties.

Mag and wag have different skill sets though. Certain vaults are more/less difficult for women than they are for men

@@hazelnutspred3348 Yes. Women largely favour Yurchnko vaults whereas guys largely favour Tsukahara and to lesser extent forward handspring vaults. But these are both Yurchenkos. WAG vault values are just nonsense. An Amanar is obviously more difficult than a Cheng. The half on is not 0.2 more difficult than the full twist difference. They should be the other way round like are in MAG. Yurchenko double twist is 4.8, Yurchenko half on 1.5 off (Cheng) is 5.0 and Yurchenko 2.5 (Amanar) is 5.2

@@benbailey159bb the block for a cheng is much harder than generating the power to do an amanar. So many gymnasts can throw an extra half onto a dty but most would struggle blocking a half on entry. It would be more popular to do that type of entry if it were easier, but it’s not

It is ridiculous that this vault is worth higher!

This!

@KelsKingdom-h1q I mean... What's a phenomenon in YOUR book? Rebeca's the 2020 olympic, 2021 and 2023 world champion on the vault and 2022 world all-around champion. She is one of the only three gymnasts to have medalled on every event in the history of World Championships in this century. She executed the BEST cheng vault EVER. Let's not forget that AG values both difficulty and execution, and often even when her peers do best in the first Andrade constantly beats them in the last. All this with a waaaay bigger background of injuries. So yep, she's an icon, a warrior and a phenomenon. Both Andrade and Biles are IN THEIR OWN WAY.

​​​@KelsKingdom-h1qshe's torn her acl 3 times and won an olympic gold and silver as well as 3 world championships after the third tear. her trajectory is remarkable and significantly differs from other gymnasts seeing as her biggest wins came years after three reconstructive surgeries and she keeps on improving. shes certainly worthy of being called a phenomenon

​@KelsKingdom-h1qamigo, mas essa é a questão! Se com tantos problemas físicos ela atingiu níveis tão altos, imagine se não houvesse ocorrido tantas lesões. O que diferencia a Andrade da Biles é isso:enquanto a biles estava no alto nível, a Andrade estava se recuperando. Ou seja, não havendo condições de fazer algo extraordinário. Então sim, a Andrade é uma fenômeno. Algo único, que com tantos problemas - inclusive falo em relação do Brasil não ser um país culturalmente da ginástica(diferente do país da Biles) - é a única que pode superar, em algumas provas, a maior ginasta de todos os tempos - Simone Biles. Ambas são fenômenos, mas Andrade tem um admirável histórico, e não falo em relação à medalhas, e sim de lesões e outros problemas.

@@plmarins Also her Bars and Beam were underscored in the Olympic games and handed gold medal to simple layout dismounting beam queen Sunisa.

right! my thoughts too... I am praying for her knees

se vc usar um pouco do seu cérebro vc vai perceber que não é na cova

Sadly this is what FIG wants.

Let's say it gets 6.0. with a fall, it'll start from 5.0 (just as her dty), so my guess is she could get high 13s / low 14s if performed with a fall, which (imagining she score's smt like a 14) she'd get around 14'5+ average, which is, definitely, medal material

@@MostHated33 Well you have Jade and Yeo who can definitely score high on a good day.

No. If she doesn't complete the rotations around fully it gets downgraded to a Amanar like what happened to Hong Un Jong and then deducted from there. So the most she would get would be about a 14 for it. There's a strong chance that won't be enough with Carey, Yeo and possible Moreno competing in vault finals.

@@br0wnsug3h Exaclty

not how that works...