New Sonic Prime Reveal Has Fans MAD! 

It was great

W

Lowkey it's hella boring

My Favorite Season Was S1, Idk About The Other Ones. Overall I Liked It. Edit: Watch The Stream If You Can, It Was A Banger Lol

It is awesome

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Lol him and what tools, his poor writing "skills"?

Ian Flynn when he says something he has no idea about because he is a COMIC BOOK WRITER.

@@TheSultan1470 yeah i agree

@@biohazardbin He wrote Sonic Frontiers and episodes of Sonic Boom.

A lot of people do

​@@playerback7722 and sence ghost hill and the grim got decayed I think the yellow shard and purple shard can create new worlds

I mean why be surprised? It's been like that since 2010. You mean to tell me Lost World Sonic is the same as Unleashed Sonic?

@@hwanniggles187 yea facts

The same Sonic who gave a big speech on how everything must come to an end in life from Black Knight is also the same Sonic who wanted to make Baldy Mcnosehair a regular name for Eggman in Colors.

A Shadow so good, writers had to keep him out of the story or else he would’ve solved everything on his own.

Yeah, really the only problem with Shadow in Prime(and here me out on this) is that he didn't consider any of the other characters _his_ friends as well(continually telling Sonic "your friends" instead of saying "our friends", plus not having any emotional reaction towards even _Rouge_ ), and the fact that to get a great Shadow, we were forced to have a dumb Sonic

​@@Railman1225I think It's because in the recent change of canon they said that the Team Dark doesn't actually get along and they don't actually like each other or something

Shadow is Awesome

@@jorgeparrales7108 wait really?? That's sad

Valid. All valid. Send it to Sega and try to see if they'll agree with it.

@@Sydanny. Thank you, but I'm pretty sure that'd stop any of them being possible, for legal reasons...

Ah

3's the one that I'm going with. it makes sense with the name Sonic "Prime" (like Earth-Prime, from DC), and it doesn't contridict any of the games.

Solid and makes sense, I could see it even being post Generations leading into Origins, going full circle and again yeah multiverse parallel timelines shenanigans. Especially when you consider that 3&K initially was not canon, the canon was 2 seperate adventures not the combined one. Renditions since its release have depicted this or also include the combined one like Mega Collection Plus did... Origins however only provides the combined version. So that's a new timeline. Also why, despite disliking Forces too, Tails' quote of Classic Sonic being a Sonic from another universe makes sense, because he is. He is both past and now because of event changes an alternate Sonic. Parallel Timelines and multiverse doesn't mean Classic Sonic won't grow up, just means he experienced things differently from the "Modern Sonic" (Why I prefer to call them Sonic A and Sonic B lol, rather than Modern and Classic, so we'll go with that rest of the comment, B is classic, A is modern). Sonic A experienced the events of 1, CD, 2, 3, S&K, 4 Adventure 1, 2 etc until Generations. However he didn't experience Forces, Mania, or Generations in his youth, only Generations and Forces when he was older so they're not on the A timeline. Meanwhile B Sonic experienced Generations in his youth, Mania, then Forces in his youth, then Mania encore mode. He has experienced events differently from Sonic A, however this doesn't mean he still won't experience other timeline events, he still can run into Chaos, Shadow, Metal Overlord, get killed by Mephiles, kiss a human girl, werehog out, then rexperience Generations when he's older. This also explains Silver still existing, that is an alternate timeline. It's not like back in the 80s when we thought messing with time ctrl alt deleted stuff, time is ever flowing, unchangeable, that's how we THINK time travel could work. Why multiverse and parallel timelines have been on the rise in media, Avengers, Sonic, other game franchises have been doing it for decades like Zelda and Pokemon. So I don't see why people are up in arms, it's Sega themselves that said everything is canon... and this is how lol.

Well, to be fair, he still had the same reactions to them back then as well, example, when he faces off against Lancelot, a Shadow variant, he still sees him as Shadow, even though in that instance he's not. Same thing with Eggman in Secret Rings, that wasn't our Eggman, but a variant of him. This Sonic from Prime might have had his first experience with alternate variations of his friends. At least to what Ian Flynn is saying the placement is, sometime after Advance 3, but still considered moot since it kinda just wiped itself, similar to 06.

​@fireokamifeng how did it wipe itself like I keep hearing this but all the alternate timeliness still exist like they even show the other tails at the end of the show still alive and shadow takes the reality gem thingy that's started the whole mess how is that wiping itself?

Yea and I was really hoping for the comics to do its own thing and make up their own adaptation of Frontiers, though i guess that's being skipped. And i wanted the games to have their own adaptative introduction to the game character cuz as you said, not everyone reads the comics and would be less stressful when handling the game's story

i feel like even though everything is canon, they wont merge anything together. Just like in Frontiers and how Amy mentions Sticks and having a picnic, they implemented the presence of them but not everything behind those characters and where they’re from. They do need to let us know the Timeline of everything but i feel like Sega can handle it in a great way.

It's literally Disney with Marvel and (maybe)Star Wars now. _I hate it_

I refuse to read the comics simply cause they just don’t interest me and I just concidered them filler. I really really don’t wanna go tackle hundreds of issues in the comics just to understand more of the lore.

Yeah, we are still waiting on Sonic having siblings - Sonic Underground is still SEGA's possession.

a bit upset they say this yet archie isn't canon now anymore

@@SpectacleSpark When they said "Everything is canon" what they really meant was "Stop crying about the damn canon, we really don't care about consistency". Archie was never canon anyway, nothing with Sally in it has ever been canon not that it matters. Archie and DiC are both dead and people need to move on.

@@1234_Flux Say that to SATAM Season 3 and Archie Sonic Online.

That was supposed to be a joke that got way to serious.

@@SpectacleSpark Archie never was canon

The good thing with 06 is that it dind't wipe ou the characters , but instead "rewrote" the timespace for the new characters involved , so Blaze was reset to being from an alternate dimesion (rush) , and Silver taking a different route to stop Sonic (in Rivals) , while keeping the major character's untouched (Shadow having his memory restored) .

The lore team probably wasn’t ready during sonic prime production

It's called "Retconned" by the way.

i love the doctor who reference 😭 and yeah the paradox prism shattering is my reasoning for Sonic forgetting a few things, its clear that Sonic also seems quite stressed n tired too (only sleeping once in the show i believe since everything happened pretty much back to back) so its easy to say hes gonna forget stuff

@@burgezdoestuff8578 Hmm, that’s actually the most plausible answer.

😭😭

Ik it makes no sense because kids play sonic games with rouge in her "revealing" outfit but for some reason theu wanted censor her slightly more here?

I like her ‘new’ outfit tho, hasn’t she worn it before?

@@TotallyAllois no

​@@Gispoe netflix show that is why

They confirmed it was supposed to be end on a cliffhanger

​@@playerback7722where the chaos counsel use the prism and shadows chaos emerald to get there

I’m fine with the cliffhanger ending and it’s because of that one line Sonic said to Shadow before they fought the second time in adventure 2 “What you see is what you get, just a guy who loves adventure. I’m Sonic the Hedgehog!”

I'm pretty sure it was just another ordinary enemy

@@Mateo-qw9px boss cage maze no place varint of eggman the thing who created the paradox prism

I'm going to experience a brain aneurysm some time after reading this comment. I don't know how. I don't know when. It could be years from now. But "some time after" is a broader term than people think. At the very least, it implies "no earlier than." Not "right after."

Honestly, i didn't even realise that Sonic Prime had continuity within the sonic game universe. However, i tend not to question what they do with Sonic all that much.

He said SOMEWHERE afterz not directly after

I just remembered two things that help with placement of these events: Orbot and Cubot. Those two narrow things down to after Sonic colors at least.

Hopefully netflix makes a movie special of sonic traveling to new shatterspaces with new worlds to adventure in the chaos emeralds and the master emerald into the real story finale

That's pretty much how I feel.

The show is fine the ending is was just a drag.

exactly

Facts

We want the chaos counsel to get a bigger role in the show with the paradox prism itself

Boom fire and ice is honestly solid

Nobody cares about Lyric

I know that

So, the IDW being canon to the Games stuff? Where Sega of Japan could just turn around and contradict the comics completely at any time.

​@@rayvenkman2087not to mention not many people read comics due to comics being overpriced due to activist writers who don't belong in the industry due to their poor skills and toxic personalities.

You don’t. Everything is Canon is a forwards direction, and the games are the only things retroactively canon.

And rouge big getting there own shatterspaces

A movie would kinda be overdoing it, but another season would've been a more realistic take

@@tailsfan10 for episode 24 dah

@jaquariusrodgers7299 They still update that shotty game???

​​@@SpectacleSparkyeah a lot unless you talkin abt sonic forces they don't update it only sonic forces speed battle and add charcters like bosscage sonic rusty rose nine and holiday charcters like vampire shadow and even werehog

It'd make sense if it was a different universe. I mean, it'd be confusing but I'd take it over sonic being an impulsive ADHD child instead of it taking place in the same universe that sonic UNLEASHED had. Like how fiona and cake is canon to the adventure time lore but like it's in a different universe

Yeah, I always saw this a fanfic made into an official series. You know how fanfics always have different interpretations of all the characters? I saw Prime as no exception.

@@gameoholic1994 yeah

@@gameoholic1994 also it'd make more sense if they made some of the games into different universes, that way they can root out what needs to be the main canon story or not lol

I actually was thinking that same thing right now

I liked classic being the past of modern. For a better way, I want to think of boom, lost world, 06, forces + idw comics (including characters) and that one frontier character (due to them feeling like a certain wannabe of another franchise character) as their own canon and NON of those characters from that game/comic exist in main line games.

I liked classic being the past of modern. For a better way, I want to think of boom, lost world, 06, forces + idw comics (including characters) and that one frontier character (due to them feeling like a certain wannabe of another franchise character) as their own canon and NON of those characters from that game/comic exist in main line games.

Sonic 06

@@JakeThehedgehog-m1x yep!

TRUE or at least more of the normal characters

yes it’s true

I dont know pirate knukles was funny to me

Nah the show is great the ending is just a drag.

Cause he was annoying and really unlike his game version ​@@bridgetthonnold1289

Me

i actually watched season 2 and 3 right when they came out

me

⁠@@SonicHubYTe

me lol i wasted ton of hours

yeah of course

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@@ChaosShadowSoda😑

@@FazeMario2476 shut up

*LOL* Tailstube

because where we're the rest of the chaos emeralds and master emerald

Honestly, it feels like that time gap and the one between Generations and Lost World are missing key adventures of some kind. Like, Eggman got stuck in white-space at the end of Generations, and then he just randomly shows back up again in Lost World with ZERO explanation. And then we go from the silly lighted hearted ending of Lost World just straight to Sonic living in Green Hill during Forces and COINCIDENTALLY, Knuckles is also just chilling their instead of Angel Island, and everyone acts like Green Hill is the whole world for some reason. Like, what? What happened in between those two games for them to just suddenly start hanging around in that area specifically. I mean, it does make sense though given that Green Hill is like Tailor Made for Sonic so.....😅😅

@@RClipsGaming101 Yeah I think something else could go between Generations and Lost World because Prime definitely wouldn't explain anything better. But I can explain Green Hill a tad bit. Green Hill is on South Island. Sonic 2 is on WestSide Island and Sonic 3&K are on Angel Island. However, SA2 is on South Island again as Green Hill is a near by location. I considered that Green Hill was representing all of South Island in that game cuz some games do portray all of South Island as Green Hill, but sometimes it's also just the outer part of the island. The other thing is that SA2's main city is Central City which is also in Sonic Battle and Shadow The Hedgehog. Central City is connected to Station Square, from SA1 which, in turn, is connected to the Mystic Ruins loosely (Sonic territories are weird). Mystic Ruins is a place humans hadn't explored before clearly, and turns out to house the ruins of the Echidnas where Angel Island originally came from. South Island is said to move around so it makes sense that Angel Island, which has fallen in two games, did not fall in the same place. However, they are nearby. Because in Sonic 3 &K, the Death Egg was in the area near Angel Island and fell into the ocean. In Sonic Battle, which has Central City (as well as Green Hill, so confirming it's South Island) also had a location called Holy Summit where Eggman resurfaced the original Death Egg. Same area. This is convoluted but the point is that it shows that the Death Egg and Angel Island landing spots are near similar areas showing that SA1 is the same island as Battle which is the same as SA2 and Shadow The Hedgehog, 2 of which have Green Hill which is on South Island. In later games we see Green Hill more and more often. So it's likely a place they live close to as seen in Sonic Battle. And why Knuckles is able to visit, as he's actually not far. And maybe they refer to Green Hill as the whole world because the show writers didn't know any better but you could also chalk that up to them just referring to the area the gateways lead to. After all, No Place, Boscage Maze and New Yolk are also specific locations rather than the entire world.

@@Axxidous True, very true. Though I didn't know about the geographical info from Sonic Battle. (I don't own that game sadly.) It's interesting because currently I'm in the process of making a video, where I defend Green Hill's appearances in recent Sonic games on my second channel @IAmSpeed10161. I think that all of this would have been really cool to know about prior to me making the script cause this only serves to strengthen the idea that Sonic lives in or around Green Hill. So having it reappear from time to time makes sense. Would you be interested in checking out that video when it comes out, and maybe giving your thoughts in the comments? It would definitely serve to strengthen many of the arguments I've decided to bring up in and maybe there are some things you can add to the discussion that I might not have known about. (Like the Sonic Battle info.) So, what do you think? You interested?

@@RClipsGaming101 Sure. Let me know when it’s posted. :)

@@Axxidous Will do. 👍

*toddler show

That's another thing that bothered me about the show. Not the MLP thing, but having the ENTIRE cast of Sonic characters in a new show with completely different voice actors from the games. I get the live action movie did something similar (although still featured Tails' VA for...reasons) but it's really shocking to hear Sonic and his friends sound so dramatically different. Especially since Prime is now somehow tied to the games. I know alternative media forms of Sonic get different VAs at times but why not just keep it consistent? I'm guessing either there is some complicated contract with most of the game Sonic VAs or they just don't wanna be in anything but the games (which would be strange since Roger Craig Smith has definitely done TV shows before).

@@mikeanthony3300 honestly I think the voice actors did a really nice job voicing the characters, like I can definitely see the voice actor of rainbow dash voicing tails, voice actor of pinkie pie from my knowledge voices Amy, and for rouge it’s rarity who also voiced one of the sirens in equestria girls

Wait what?! No wonder i liked voices! Now i like this show even more!

They should replace the Video-game cast

But Omega was in Forces...

​@@vittosphonecollection57289but sadly no new yoke version of himself

Hopefully the chaos counsel will build different robots besides eggforcers

@@tk32502 Imagine Grim Omega tho 🔥🔥 Would've loved to see him in the last season

Yeah and imagine if dr don’t dr done it have counsel mechs of there own what could there mechs look like if they fight sonic in person

fr

Yeah like sonic boom

Yeah like Sonic X

All the above

That’s what I’ve been saying about IDW Sonic. Tying yourself to the Games can present a host of problems for writers what happens in the newest games has to be acknowledged and that includes the retcons. Whatever character progression is made will be undone by the latest mainline. If you made it a separate entity based on the Games, you have room to craft the world and develop the characters freely. Though Sega Mandates might need to scram because it’s ridiculous how limiting they are.

More Sonic fans need to learn to be less anal about having inconsistencies in a long-running media franchise with several iterations being handled by different people. Sometimes it's necessary to handwave details that don't connect and recognize that you're talking about different forms of media that will make certain changes to fit the audience they're targeting. That doesn't mean everything has to be separate timelines just because a character said something that doesn't make sense when considering the totality of every single Sonic game put together. If anything, that just makes all of this a thousand times more complicated than it needs to be.

@@PaintraSeaPea Exactly my friend:)

and new shatterspaces with new worlds like western a kingdom and superheroes worlds

Realistically yeah

Hmmm multiverse… Guess it was only a matter of time. Time travel has already been introduced

It’s not coming

That aint happening

Dont think its gonna happen

BAD HORRIBLE IDEA,sonic prime is garbage thanks to season 2 and 3 and making the show canon

why lol? sonic already saved the world

Allegedly the writers only watched or played few of the games.

So the usual level of Sonic media

@@shangothunder1055 Sorry, That was a typo. I meant ti say few.

HOW YOU

Sonichub can you friend me on roblox

sonic twitter fans be like...

Fr cant do anything

Sonic Prime wasn’t terrible, it was more tolerable and focused slot on the main character we love unlike Knuckles ever did.

​@@rmgilyard What does it matter who the show is centered on when the other one is for 3 year olds

@@rmgilyard then why does everyone seemingly think positively about Shadow in Prime but not Sonic? 🤨