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New Speed Kinsects (and how to use them properly) | MHRise: Sunbreak 

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I've noticed a lot of people discrediting these bugs as cumbersome when compared to the new powder ones, but they actually have a few very interesting interactions with a lot of the base game switch skills and typical combos in an IG player's arsenal! Most notably, kinsect: recall inflicts damage as it passes through the monster, making "kinsect canceling" and grounded combat a more rewarding strategy now. Also, haha fleetflammer go brrrrrr

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@nokenel
@nokenel Год назад
I picked fleethammer for the aesthetic initially but didnt kniw it could do this
@ronk.1528
@ronk.1528 2 года назад
Awesome vid! I had no idea, how strong speed kinsects could be.
@bunchiyu7761
@bunchiyu7761 2 года назад
Lot more micromanagement if speed is to match the other two kinsect but I like this better than vortex
@FakeHeroFang
@FakeHeroFang 2 года назад
Vortex needs a lot to go right in order to get big damage. You need the powders in close range to each other, the kinsect and the monster, you have to not hit them and hope that the monster also does not destroy them. I don't dislike it, but it requires a lot of positional awareness and monster knowledge to use properly. Assist feels the most consistent to me, and the others have a higher skill ceiling but more potential damage.
@ceebie77
@ceebie77 2 года назад
This was extremely helpful, thanks!
@QwertyRulz2
@QwertyRulz2 Год назад
Hmm...y'know, on more mobile enemies where I find that even with the refill powder from Boosted Powder Extract that I drop the triple charge, these now seem pretty decent! -- TOTALLY related to this completely and not only tangentially: I think that the Kinsect: Harvest and Kinsect: Recall abilities having the same sound effect is very much a bad choice. Because sometimes I accidentally hit the wrong button in the heat of the moment and go, "Wait, which one did I do?" because the instinctual sound association is gone besides, "I did **a** thing, at least."
@saiter6010
@saiter6010 2 года назад
hey nice video, can you tell me what kinsect have more stun potential between fleetflammer and gleambeetle
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
It really depends how you use them! Fleetflammer when charged has a slight advantage over other non-chargeable blunt kinsects, both from a sheathed position and when using kinsect slash. The absolute fastest way to apply stun to a monster though is by kinsect slashing with bullshroud and connecting with the entire charged attack, but the charged combo stays in one place and can often miss if the monster decides to move. So the main benefit of using fleetflammer is that the unsheathed chasing attack can pierce the monster and hit multiple times from a surprisingly far distance away. The easiest way to focus on stunning with your kinsect is to leave fleetflammer out, mark the monster’s face, and then perform piercing charged attacks from a distance. Otherwise, if you find yourself sticking to aerial combat exclusively, the difference between fleetflammer and gleambeetle are nearly indistinguishable. Your best option for using gleambeetle is with a grounded playstyle, fleetflammer offers a hybrid option with easy remote stuns, and bullshroud is ideal for an aerial focused build with accurate gameplay. I hope this helps!
@saiter6010
@saiter6010 2 года назад
@@gamesdontlikeme Interesting point of view, thanks for the reply :)
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
Of course, happy to help!
@triplezeroxz5875
@triplezeroxz5875 2 года назад
I play aerial glaive but I use kinsect slash. This looks more optimized for jump slash and idk if I want to make that switch yet
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
The charged attack damage actually affects the follow up attack that the bug does after kinsect slash, so you can also get a lot of use by just poking the monster to death with it. JAS is cool because you can do the piercing recall / released charged attack, but a Kinsect Slash only playstyle with these is 100% valid, especially with fleetflammer for added stun damage. Although I will say you might prefer bullshroud and grancathar for the chain attack, I tend to interchange them
@spence6195
@spence6195 2 года назад
This Kinsect requires too much focus, I'll stick with Powder
@CjJello
@CjJello 2 года назад
I was interested in these bugs but I never hunted with one because I just didn’t quite get it. After watching this video, I realized something important: unlike the training dummy, actual monsters move around a bunch, and that’s where these little dudes rack up damage I’d been using the charged chain attack bugs almost exclusively, but I might have to try this out now
@bunchiyu7761
@bunchiyu7761 2 года назад
I did a few test run on magnamalo. It’s a stun machine like you said. String sweep into tornado then into kinsect is a great combo since sweep plus tornado is almost the internal of kinsect charge. I see a lot of potential. I jus wish there is a mod or effect/sound setting for charge to be more obvious instead of looking every time
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
I love fleetflammer. For the kinsect charge, the back of your glaive will flash blue when the charge refreshes as well as the kinsect itself and the icon under your health, I think there’s a slight sound effect too but it’s fairly quiet. From my testing though thankfully the charge time seems perfectly lined up to refresh as you finish a tornado slash
@aaroncheshire3876
@aaroncheshire3876 2 года назад
Have you figured out how these kinsects work with Awakened Kinsect Attack? I get inconsistent behavior - sometimes it does a chain attack at the end, sometimes it doesn't - and I haven't been able to figure out what determines its behavior.
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
It has to do with the amount of extracts you have before you throw it. 0-2 extracts before the throw will give you the chain attack, but with full extracts the kinsect will recall itself while you're in the air, allowing for a potential buffed aerial follow up. Alternatively, because these bugs deal damage on recall, you can throw it with low extracts to anchor it and then pull it through the monster after the chain attack. I hope that helps! :)
@serotonin.scavenger
@serotonin.scavenger 4 месяца назад
Kinsect only builds with these kinsects are super viable.
@TgfkaTrichter
@TgfkaTrichter 2 года назад
Informative video, but I still think, that the utility and or damage of the other two bugs beat the speedy one. Powder heals you, is fun to use and can hit for really serious numbers and assist works great with the new air moves and allows you to maintain your buffs all the time. If the blut speedy boy would also do elemental damage, it might be worth considering, but so, I think not.
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
I think the main benefit of using fleetflammer is the ability to refresh the charge while it’s in the air, and that the piercing attack can travel a surprisingly long distance and hits multiple times. For anyone who likes to apply stun by marking the face and spamming kinsect attacks from a distance, fleetflammer is ideal. It’s also great for anyone who incorporates kinsect canceling into grounded combos for some extra stun and potential damage. Foliacath also does elemental damage as a severing type, and you can get some pretty impressive damage with the right weapon. It’s all personal preference though, I think they all have their benefits in the right context. Whatever feels right and is fun to use!
@TgfkaTrichter
@TgfkaTrichter 2 года назад
@@gamesdontlikeme I stick with powder, that ist im more fun and also quite strong. Assist seems to be the damage meta, but I Like the extra Helling you geht from powder too much. Assist kinsects get the biggest benefit from the new air options though and are IMO the best choice against smaller monsters like Rajang. But the most imporant thing about the new kinsects is, that you are no longer restricted to dual color powder like in base Rise, in which dual color powder has beaten everything else by a Long shot.
@sweatygamergainz870
@sweatygamergainz870 2 года назад
Nice find. This is how I play glaive. Might have to do this and let go of my dual defense
@capellozapellini6074
@capellozapellini6074 2 года назад
Eh, powder vortex go brrrrrrrrr
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
A fellow big number enthusiast I see
@raphael2012
@raphael2012 2 года назад
Nice video
@yushihotanto7502
@yushihotanto7502 2 года назад
Can i just spam extract kinsect after charging it? Is it the right way?
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
You only need to press it once per charge for these!
@joshrodriguez1025
@joshrodriguez1025 2 года назад
These are my favorite
@gamesdontlikeme
@gamesdontlikeme 2 года назад
They’re very underrated. The fact that recalling them deals damage means you’re being directly rewarded for learning to kinsect cancel, it’s great
@joshrodriguez1025
@joshrodriguez1025 2 года назад
@@gamesdontlikeme it's something I've always wanted
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