New Study: Affirmative Action, Legacy & the Economic Power of Elite Colleges | Amanpour and Company 

Your guest seemed more objective and believable than other researchers/academicians. Thanx for letting him speak his thoughts with little interruptions. I like his bringing up sports scholarships too🎉

What we really should do is stop caring about these schools. We're essentially letting their admissions departments pick our nation's leaders based on what they were doing from age 14 to 17.

Don't forget in the US underprivileged areas have the worst schools and the unfair amount of bad teachers.

Stanford grad here. It was painfully obvious who the legacy and affirmative action people were. Total waste of space. It'll be good riddance to erase both options and get closer to a meritocracy.

Should not be based on race but based on whether you’re the first generation to go to college, have the grades, come from a socio-economic disadvantaged demographic

I think race should be factored because the government said it was a factor when they invented race...... and all the negative outcomes associated with it. Secondly, does it matter how they achieved their SAT scores? Third, we need to stop employment discrimination with companies who hire from these schools.

From a large, blue collar family, I was the first to attend college. I financially struggled while most of my classmates had parents who paid for their state college education. While in college, I wondered how I might get to the Ivy League. It soon became clear that I was born into the wrong class. My parents never went to college, they couldn't afford to send me to prep school or an expensive college. So, America does, in fact, have a class system. I also realized that, given all the benefits of the wealthy, most students I knew eventually could have the same comfortable lives of the rich. If they could afford it. But, lets not get crazy and let that happen.

The legacies don’t need comparable credentials and will get in ahead of someone with better grades and test scores.

Even if you offer more spots to the economically disadvantaged who, despite all the barriers managed to catch the eye of the elite colleges with a high GPA and job experience (out of necessity/to support family), how will they afford the gargantuan cost? I advised my kids to not bother applying to ivies cuz even if they managed to get accepted we couldn't afford it and we didn't want them to face a lifetime of debt upon graduation. As it happened, scholarships in very good colleges (but not ivies) determined where they ended up studying. I also discouraged them from pursuing athletic scholarships. It gives the illusion of an easy/free way in especially for families who can't afford to pay for college. The college years are an important time in a young persons life and I believe it shouldn't be wasted hitting a ball over a net or doing whatever monotonous repetitive physical exertion. Following the dictates of a coach usually leads to an injury, an elitist, narcissistic mentality and, a less challenging academic path so that more time can be spent training. Students should be encouraged to get involved in community work, volunteering in places that offers a peek at problems that need solutions. They can do a semester abroad to see more of the world and they can spend more time meeting and collaborating with different people from all walks of life. We as a society need to train the next generation of leaders to be more empathic and collaborative and we can start by finding young people with these skills and funding them. I see it as a crucial way to invest in our most important resources - humans and our environment.

You can have a great life by picking an affordable school and a major that gives you the chance to earn a decent living without going into serious debt. A. great. life. You may not be a C-suite person. You can still have a wonderful, happy, productive and financially comfortable life. I live and work with the 1%. They aren't as happy as you'd think. I smile every day that I watch them try to understand why they are so unhappy...

Thanks @Amanpour and Company for posting this video about affirmative action / supreme court. Here are the viewpoints expressed by Supreme Court justices regarding affirmative action. 1) This case is about a group called Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) who sued Harvard College and the University of North Carolina (UNC). They said that these schools were not fair in their admissions process because they were using race as a factor, which they believed was against the law. The law they referred to is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment*. 2) The Equal Protection Clause is a part of the Fourteenth Amendment that says that every person should be treated equally by the law, no matter their race, color, or nationality. The SFFA believed that by considering race in admissions, Harvard and UNC were not treating all applicants equally. 3) The Court looked at the history of the Fourteenth Amendment and how it has been used in the past. They also looked at how other cases involving race and college admissions were handled. They found that while diversity in a student body can be a good thing, it must be handled in a way that treats all applicants fairly and equally. 4) The Court also looked at the idea of "strict scrutiny*". This is a way for the courts to look at laws to see if they are fair and necessary. If a law or policy is found to be unfair or unnecessary, it may not pass strict scrutiny and could be considered unconstitutional. 5) The Court found that the admissions systems at Harvard and UNC did not pass strict scrutiny. They said that the schools' use of race in admissions was not clear or specific enough, and it resulted in fewer admissions for certain racial groups. They also said that the schools' use of race in admissions seemed to stereotype certain racial groups, which is not allowed. 6) The Court also said that the schools' admissions systems did not have a clear end point. This means that there was no clear plan for when the schools would stop using race as a factor in admissions. This was another reason why the Court said the schools' admissions systems were not fair. 7) The Court decided that the admissions systems at Harvard and UNC were not fair and did not follow the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. They said that the schools' use of race in admissions was not clear, specific, or fair enough to be allowed. 8) However, the Court also said that schools can consider how race has affected an applicant's life. They can look at how an applicant's experiences with their race have shaped them and what they can bring to the school because of those experiences. 9) In the end, the Court decided that the admissions systems at Harvard and UNC were not fair and did not follow the law. They said that the schools' use of race in admissions was not allowed because it was not clear, specific, or fair enough. 10) So, the Court decided that the SFFA was right. They said that Harvard and UNC were not treating all applicants equally in their admissions process, which is against the law. They said that the schools needed to change their admissions systems to be fair to all applicants, no matter their race. *The Equal Protection Clause is a part of the Fourteenth Amendment that says that every person should be treated equally by the law, no matter their race, color, or nationality. *Strict scrutiny is a way for the courts to look at laws to see if they are fair and necessary. If a law or policy is found to be unfair or unnecessary, it may not pass strict scrutiny and could be considered unconstitutional.

Gender, gender identity, disability, country of national origin, religion and creed in addition to legacy admissions can still be considered for unmerited admissions.

TLDR: wealth can buy a lot of "holistic" bells and whistles even without legacy.

Why didn't Ed Blum tackle gender??

What are the 12 schools? Ivy League is 8?

I find it funny how people only focus on race and not nationality. Are we okay with Harvard having a whole class of Chinese Nationals for a freshman class or whole group of foreigners for a freshman class??

And yet all of this has been blamed on black people!

One solution is lottery admissions.

Wild idea, your kid cannot attend the same school you did.

Gravity eventually happens to everyone most of the time.