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New Stumpjumper 15 vs Stumpy Evo | Head to Head Testing 

Charles Murray
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Brand New Specialized Stumpjumper | Bike Testing
We took the new Stumperjumper 15 out for some test runs in Le Carroz to get it dialled in for race week.
Had a good session on the bike and came out with some surprising results.
Thanks Specialized for developing an epic new ride and thanks TP for getting it in tune.

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@rookieboy9203
@rookieboy9203 23 дня назад
The video we all been waiting for 🍿 🎥
@monster900i
@monster900i 21 день назад
Thanks for that real open and interesting insight
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Glad you liked it
@TheBikeBuddha
@TheBikeBuddha 23 дня назад
What I’ve been waiting for 🔥
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Glad to help
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 3 дня назад
Congrats on getting into the Specialized EWS team bro. Smash it! Got my Stumpy 15 Expert arriving in a couple of days. Hopefully before the weekend coz it's forecast for sun!
@maelbarbarin2147
@maelbarbarin2147 22 дня назад
Heyyy, I'm so happy to be in your video !!
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Nice to meet you bro!
@justsayin3600
@justsayin3600 21 день назад
I got to give a shout out to the mechanic! If it wasn't for great mechanics, and trail builders we wouldn't get the most fun out of our rides 🤙
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 20 дней назад
Very true!
@conman1395
@conman1395 23 дня назад
I would think a Vivid with HBO would be better than the Genie. Two separately tuned circuits. I think the Genie is sick, but frankly it just seems like a cheaper, simpler way to get bottom out protection with less weight and complexity than HBO. This will appeal to more Stumpjumper fans than Evo fans. New Enduro will be out soon after enduro season ends and prospective Evo buyers will be enticed by the bigger bike while the Stumpjumper (non-Evo) fans will be glad the bike is this capable with the lighter weight of the Genie. And people who like to use the bike for everything, still can.
@ApexArchery
@ApexArchery 21 день назад
Any information on the new Enduro? They released the prior generation in September - perhaps the same this year?
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Great insight, I prefer the SDLX than the Vivid but that could be a good option for most people. I just really like the supportive mid stroke I get with the SDLX
@justsayin3600
@justsayin3600 21 день назад
I think the new Enduro will be enticing for EVO owners that have maxed their EVO out. I'm running mixed wheel, WRP yoke, Cascade link, Medium + shim tune w/ 1.0 spacer, Fox 38 w/ E-Tuned, and 5DEV 155mm cranks. It's definitely capable. I'm hoping Specialized amps up the Enduro with the adjustability and modification/ aftermarket that the EVO has. To me the EVO is Trail/Enduro. Hopefully they make the Enduro to be Enduro/Downhill adjustable.
@alexandremorais3687
@alexandremorais3687 23 дня назад
Awesome to watch the process of a pro testing. Have you tried ochain on stumpy evo or the new one ?
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Haven't ever tried the O-Chain but we've got one in the box we need to test
@kentao4
@kentao4 23 дня назад
Thank you! Haven’t even watched yet but this is what I want to see!!
@s.sviatoslav
@s.sviatoslav 23 дня назад
Thanks for this comparison! I would be stoked to hear your thoughts about the new Genie shock for this bike. How would you describe the difference between it and the one you are currently riding? Also, I saw some builds with the Vivid shock, which also looks pretty interesting. What do you think about that?
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 23 дня назад
he won't test a fox shock when he is sponsored by rockshox.
@cwalt74
@cwalt74 9 дней назад
All the more reason to test the Fox shock if youre sponsored by Rockshox. If the Fox is better just cover it up like they do with tyres
@gianlucadisisto93
@gianlucadisisto93 23 дня назад
This is the bike we all are waiting for 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@glencompton2949
@glencompton2949 22 дня назад
That was a cool overview. Between very competitive race results and the cool ambassador and general scene content you provide as a fan I’m stoked! I hope Specialized appreciate all the effort too!!! I may have missed it but I assume you are running 160mm fork in the Stumpjumper 15? I’ve always thought a short travel and long travel bike are a good quiver (if not needed) but more and more short travel bikes are getting increasingly capable and long travel bikes more efficient.
@2fat2die
@2fat2die 21 день назад
Yes in a recent video he told us that hes running it with an 160mm fork.
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Thanks, glad you liked it! Yep 160mm Fork! Short travel bikes go good
@jonathanangieri153
@jonathanangieri153 23 дня назад
Loved this format of bike analysis and setup Chuck! Obviously youre going to be a bit biased but i'm sure the new stumpy shreds. Can you notice an obvious difference in the way the new XL (linear) air can rides compared to the standard can? Where do you feel its benefits the most? Last question, might be more for you mechanic, but how intuitive and effective is that new Motion Instruments DAQ system?? Would you recommend it to a weekend warrior who loves to always be searching for optimal setups in their suspension?? Thanks for the sick content and stoked on the season your having! Finish strong my dude!! CHEERS!
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
The new Motion IQ system seems pretty good, easy to set up and pretty accurate.
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
I could definetley notice a difference between the XL and the Linear or Progressive Can. XL can felt good but was a bit less supportive on repetitive hits at race pace
@LERIZON
@LERIZON 16 дней назад
Hey there, I'm curious about your bike setup. How much PSI do you run in your front and rear tires? Also, what's your air pressure in the shock and fork? Lastly, what rebound settings do you use? Thanks!
@hangnrashr
@hangnrashr 22 дня назад
What pedals are you running?
@pbls43
@pbls43 19 дней назад
What your opinion between the linear and progressive air can ? ( not the XL) ,thanks
@btom42
@btom42 22 дня назад
Out of curiosity, do you remove a volume spacer(s) from the progressive air can compared to what you have in the linear air can? I found after getting the same sag with higher pressure on the megneg, I had to balance the feel of the larger negative chamber with a larger positive chamber (less positive volume spacers). Might be something to try if you haven't yet
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Yep we did sometimes remove a spacer or two from the progressive can but I prefer the linear can anyway as I need the extra mid stroke support that it gives me
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 18 дней назад
I’m running 3 tokens in both progressive and linear cans btw
@kevinmanzo862
@kevinmanzo862 14 дней назад
Im buliding this bike, they sell that frame. Way cooler than the bronze lol.
@TFritz82
@TFritz82 21 день назад
It's good to see this kind of feedback from you on such a "moderate" bike! Trail bikes have really gotten so good! Also, lowkey awaiting the public release of the Lyrik Ultimate in Electric Red now that the Zeb is out!!
@gordo3871
@gordo3871 20 дней назад
I think it’s abt a year
@dmweyland
@dmweyland 21 день назад
suprised not testing the vivid? i heard they are great ? not great at 150?
@McSchwabl
@McSchwabl 23 дня назад
Do you also try the vivid air?
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Yep! Tried another time and prefer the feeling of the SDLX
@rodrilede3795
@rodrilede3795 19 дней назад
chaz-man how are you!? thanks as always to share yours opinions and feelings on the bike!!! Mate what chainrings do you usually use to train or race? 32t 34t? what about the offset? 6 mm, 3mm...0mm maybe? Do you have problems with chainstay? thank you so much!! CHEERS!
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 18 дней назад
Always run a 34t chainring with 3mm offset!
@rodrilede3795
@rodrilede3795 16 дней назад
@@Chazmaztv thanks bro!! You are the best!
@LoamMTBSlide
@LoamMTBSlide 23 дня назад
I mean, understand sponsors but without the Fox Custom tuned shock. The test isn't really relatable to the version i would buy. All the hype is around the shock.
@shonFEEZY
@shonFEEZY 23 дня назад
Well he likes the linear air can version of his shock, and the speci shock is even more linear than that. He says in the video he can accept the bottom out on the linear because it’s overall smoother. The genie will give the feel he likes without the bottom out! I know this is deduction and not hard data but the concepts are there and I haven’t talked to anyone who has tried the genie and not LOVED it
@hectorhernandez1664
@hectorhernandez1664 23 дня назад
Hold up. Isnt it just him testing for his future race bike and how it compares to his current race bike. This isn’t a product review for the general public. I mean this is a racers channel not pinkbike
@shonFEEZY
@shonFEEZY 23 дня назад
I might be wrong about that so someone please feel free to correct me
@benoc9966
@benoc9966 23 дня назад
@@hectorhernandez1664 Exactly.
@shonFEEZY
@shonFEEZY 23 дня назад
@@LoamMTBSlide haters said that the new stumpy 15 is too linear. That Charlie likes it better means that the frame is still rad with or without genie tech
@Big.Drip.ink.
@Big.Drip.ink. 23 дня назад
I would love to know what your settings were while on the progressive air can? Your base settings were very close for me, so also I would like to hear more information on why the linear air can? Also can you put a UHD on the Stumpy 15?
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Whats a UHD? Settings are 175psi, middle HSC, -1 LSC and 5 rebound from closed
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 20 дней назад
@@ChazmaztvI think he meant UDH, universal derailler hanger.
@ashrides8918
@ashrides8918 19 дней назад
tried it pre launch - the genie is sick but the color schemes available are so meh
@rokbukejlovic
@rokbukejlovic 21 день назад
how much noticable difference is in charger 3.1 compared to 3
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 20 дней назад
the 3.1 just gives more range for light and heavy riders.
@ApexArchery
@ApexArchery 21 день назад
From a racer's perspective, I'm surprised you'd find a preference for the Stumpy 15 vs. the current EVO model, especially if you are not able (because of sponsorship) to use the Genie shock. You're basically "giving away" a little bit of travel, while also running significantly less leverage rate with similar ending rate (2.49) between the two. If you aren't going to use a larger volume shock, you're presumably giving up quite a bit of small/midsize bump sensitivity and traction as the Stumpy 15 has way lower leverage throughout all of travel. The 15 was basically built specifically for that Fox Genie shock, or a large volume shock with HBO.
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 21 день назад
Very interesting perspective, I thought similar to you when looking at the curves but when I started riding it I was super impressed with the performance under a normal shock and actually preferred the linear air can on the SDLX over both the Vivid and the new XL SDLX can. Don't ask me why just preferred the feeling. Also worth noting my riding style is quite unique so that could be why I'm enjoying the normal SDLX
@ApexArchery
@ApexArchery 21 день назад
@@Chazmaztv That's great insight. Do you mind sharing more details about your riding style? I also count my own style as a bit unique, and it helps if I am considering the Stumpy vs. the upcoming new Enduro!
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 20 дней назад
I don't think the Genie is as important as they try and make it. They also sell a version with 160 Ohlins fork and coil shock which I think I might prefer.
@ApexArchery
@ApexArchery 19 дней назад
@@brian6speed Perhaps, but the new stumpy has a very different leverage ratio curve than what Specialized and lots of other bike companies will engineer into their frames. This was said to be done specifically because the Genie shock was well suited to a much lower leverage ratio for the first 60-70% of travel than most bikes...
@martyurwin
@martyurwin 23 дня назад
You have the Stumpy 15 set up mullet or 29er?
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 22 дня назад
Full 29er
@bucky_2k
@bucky_2k 17 дней назад
The EVO is full 29 as well?
@jokermtb
@jokermtb 20 дней назад
my first mountain bike was a 1987 Stumpjumper.....
@McSchwabl
@McSchwabl 23 дня назад
Why don’t you ride the enduro?
@Gnougatt
@Gnougatt 23 дня назад
Guessing probably for the same reason he's not using the Genie shock: sponsored by SRAM/RS and they'd want their riders on Transmission.
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 23 дня назад
He did testing last year back to back with sj evo and enduro. There are videos of it.
@brian6speed
@brian6speed 23 дня назад
@@Gnougattenduro is still specialized bike so sponsorship isn't reason.
@Gnougatt
@Gnougatt 23 дня назад
@@brian6speed Enduro doesn't have a UDH, can't run T-type
@pgfyfe25
@pgfyfe25 22 дня назад
Enduro really is more of big mountain or Whistler park bike, too long in 29” setup although somewhat better with mullet link. Much more suitable for flat out straight tracks. SJ evo and I guess new SJ15 are much better bikes in tighter tracks and steep tight dropping corners as they are much more agile, also I am assuming the 29er is generally better rolling and pedaling for most of the enduro circuit so the stumpy is much better suited to this type of racing. Charlie also mentioned he liked the flex characteristics of the small fork in a previous video
@f1hotrod527
@f1hotrod527 19 дней назад
Everyone knows the Evo was the bad boy. The brawler. The mountain crusher. Destroyer of worlds. Now we get “meh”. Sorry Fuel EX is cooler now.
@moosicman101
@moosicman101 7 дней назад
Camera should show the bike and how it moves during the ride, not the top of the helmet
@jasonpatrickdeleon4701
@jasonpatrickdeleon4701 23 дня назад
Can you review dartmoor rocbird enduro frame thanks Greetings from Philippines
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol 22 дня назад
My friend, this isnt a review channel. He is a professional enduro world cup racer who rides for Specialized. 😅
@DandyHippo
@DandyHippo 20 дней назад
Could he still..? I mean..? XDd
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 23 дня назад
Like you were going to tell the us the new bike sucks. I'll ride last year's Stumpy. Spesh would not like.
@killgates9890
@killgates9890 23 дня назад
Why not the new roval traverse hd
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 20 дней назад
I train on the HD, such a good wheel. Racing on a new alloy version of the Traverse at the moment!
@patrickhopkins5626
@patrickhopkins5626 22 дня назад
Sweet carbon Meta V5 you've got there 😉
@stevenlandis3347
@stevenlandis3347 23 дня назад
I'll boycott that frame just due to no rear derailleur cable routing.
@Tancam17
@Tancam17 22 дня назад
Why would you put a worse rear derailleur on it? It comes with axs. Don't be stupid
@padraicbateman
@padraicbateman 22 дня назад
@@Tancam17 First of it's not better and Sram sucks
@Tancam17
@Tancam17 22 дня назад
@padraicbateman you have very clearly not used the new sram transmission, so I will forgive your ignorance 😂
@stevenlandis3347
@stevenlandis3347 22 дня назад
@@Tancam17you realize you can buy it frame only right? And mountain bikers rarely leave bikes as built, and have preferences. I’ve owned axs setups and ridden transmission and they’re not all they’re cracked up to be. Heavy, you have to charge them, and shift more slowly than a cable setup. I’ll keep my shimano setup and enjoy thank you very much.
@stevenlandis3347
@stevenlandis3347 22 дня назад
@@padraicbatemanyep. Garbage.
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 20 дней назад
No
@johnnnewmex
@johnnnewmex 19 дней назад
The Evo would have to win downhill. People race Enduro on it. But for trail riding the new one is probably a little more reasonable.
@paulb5390
@paulb5390 13 дней назад
Chaz is in 3rd place in the UCI Enduro World Cup on the Stumpy 15. Seems like people "race enduro" on the Stumpy 15 too
@koolkeith8908
@koolkeith8908 23 дня назад
The differences here are poorly communicated.
@roddas26
@roddas26 23 дня назад
He is a racer not a PR guy
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol 22 дня назад
And this isnt a review. He shares his test session between the old and the new frame. Listen to what he says and look at the numbers.
@Chazmaztv
@Chazmaztv 20 дней назад
Thank you @roddas26 !! Glad you understand, was a pleasure to share an insight into how we test and set up a new bike!
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