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Tucker from Electric Cycle Rider does a first ride review and test ride on the new Sur-Ron Storm Bee electric dirt bike.
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Sur-Ron came onto the scene with their popular electric dirt bike, the Sur Ron Lightbee X, an ultra light ebike that combines features of a full size motocross bike and a mountain bike to make a dirt bike that rides in a category of it's own. Since then, they have teased their full size electric dirt bike, the Sur Ron Storm Bee. The bike has been available in other countries but has been slow to be released in the USA.
The Sur Ron Storm Bee is more like a traditional dirt bike in its size, looks, power delivery and suspension. The pre-production model tested in this video might see some minor updates but the new Sur Ron currently features a 22.5kW motor, 90v 48Ah battery, full size Fast Ace fork and shock, and a 21" front wheel and 18" rear wheel, mounted with CST tires. The Storm will likely come in 3 models which will be an off road, enduro, and road version. The enduro model tested in this video weighs in a 291 pounds.
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@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 Год назад
Great first ride video. I've actually owned a Storm Bee (I call it the "Storm Beast") Enduro for 10 months now. It's also a pre-production model which I bought used in Mongolia for $8k. So I'm interested to hear your impressions. I can't make a video and upload it because I live in the mountains of Mongolia and we have appallingly slow upload speeds. At least until I get Starlink! So, if you don't mind, I'll give my 10 month of ownership impressions here. I love this bike. I've owned a few dual sport and adventure bikes (ICE) but never a full-on 2-stroke motocross bike. So my opinions are based on that. The Storm has exceeded my expectations from my experience with those bikes. Bear in mind, I can't compare it to a genuine motocross bike. The Bee's torque in sport mode is fierce and it feels like it'll pull my arms off. I only use sport mode on my rare rides on actual roads. I generally use "eco" to give me more range and the speed is sufficient for my use. I ride around our mountain camp home, usually for 1-3 hours. The nearest paved road is about 10km (6 miles away). I don't measure battery level in distance but in time. In 1-3 hours of riding up and down mountains, grassy slopes, rocky trails and some dirt trails, I'll use 10-80% of the battery capacity, depending on whether I'm doing trials style or motocross style riding. Charging is fast with 240v. From empty, it's claimed to recharge in 4 hours but I've never gone to empty. In realistic use, I can get multiple rides a day, charging at home if necessary. We have cheap electricity here but no gas stations for 10 miles, so electric vehicles are a good idea for me. It costs almost nothing to run when you have cheap electricity. Ours cost 4 cents per kW/h. I think the Storm Bee enduro works both as a trials bike and a mild motocross bike. Maybe not competition level but I've never competed so I'm not sure. As I said, I don't ride on road much at all. When I have (2 or 3 times), I find the Storm Bee very sporty: it feels light, agile and very fast accelerating at the low speeds but loses steam after 90km/h. I think mine goes up to 120km/h (Surron claims 110km/h probably restricted). Road range is claimed as 100km at 50km/h but who rides like that? I don't. So I haven't bothered with a boring road range test. It's not the intended use. The suspension suits me. It soaks up everything I've thrown at it and I haven't bottomed it out on the small jumps I do. I've also never adjusted it but I should maybe experiment. I find the handling very light and flickable off road too. Reverse is handy if you get stick on a steep hillside and want to maneuver out of a tough spot. The turning radius is really good. Hill climbing is very good but would be better with lower pressure and maybe mousse inner "tubes". I'm considering getting those because getting a flat in my area is no fun. I've never had a flat though but I'd rather not. It's a remarkably comfortable bike for me. It's tall but so am I (6'2"), so I can plant both feet flat in the sitting position. Standing while riding is very comfortable with the ergos just right for me. Sufficiently large front foot pegs work well with my motocross boots for long spells out of the saddle. The seat is unexpectedly comfortable. I tried a Light Bee in standard form and the ergos felt wrong for a big fella, whereas the Storm Bee is just about right. It'd be nice if the Bee were lighter but it's much lighter than my past bikes. The construction is solid and I think to be lighter, it would be more vulnerable to damage on the inevitable off-road spills and drops. I'd like the option of a much lighter battery for those short 1 hour rides, which I like. If I could shave off 20kg with a light battery, I'd take the range hit happily. The battery alone weighs 30kg (66lbs) so that's the obvious place to attempt to shave weight. The battery is removable so having a lighter option would be great. Ironically, I also lost the ends of the brake levers but just filed them smooth and added KTM branded handguards. The rear indicators will most likely get broken as they have zero protection and aren't flexible. I might replace the brake levers but the brakes work just fine with 2 fingers so it's not a high priority. Overall, there's little to complain about with this bike from my perspective. It supplies the most smiles per mile I've ever had.
@brdyhks
@brdyhks Год назад
Definitely keep this for your first video!
@josephhertzberg2734
@josephhertzberg2734 Год назад
Awesome review
@oblivianation9759
@oblivianation9759 Год назад
I've got a moose and a tubeless system. I'm thinking the tubliss system is best. Sounds like you live in heaven with an awesome bike!
@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 Год назад
@@oblivianation9759 yes I’m in heaven. Except I took it for service a week ago. I have to ride my other dual-sport and I don’t like it nearly as much.
@elgringoec
@elgringoec Год назад
@@martinfoster5163 Fun read! Sounds like you're really enjoying it all!
@db3837
@db3837 Год назад
I can't believe how fast you can ride those tight trails. I'm impressed!!
@retrothruster2539
@retrothruster2539 Год назад
Been waiting yrs already, what's a few more, lol... Kidding, just hope I'm not too old to ride by the time they are available, looks like fun!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@RetroThruster Haha, for sure. They'll be available for sale in the USA soon. This pre-production model is pretty dialed in. Just some small tweaks that will likely be made before the production run.
@DanTube2010
@DanTube2010 Год назад
I'm in Europe and the local dealer has one today in their shop priced at £7,837.
@mylifeinthailand8751
@mylifeinthailand8751 Год назад
In Thailand they are getting the Ultra Bee
@TruthHrtz413
@TruthHrtz413 Год назад
Definition of" breaking it in" lol ! I do like the dual sport aspect but also glad to know they are that heavy. Was going to get one for my son as intro bike but I might get one for short rides to work as we have a lot of dirt road access and no paying for gas a bonus. Excellent video surprised you can focus while talking , plus you pushed that bike well right to the point. 👍👍
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Truth Hrtz Haha, yup! Thanks for the note! 👍
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
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@howiefine3074
@howiefine3074 Год назад
How easy is it to swap out batteries? Why is the bike so heavy?
@Corn-ped
@Corn-ped Год назад
I'd love to see a comparison against the Freeride
@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 Год назад
@@howiefine3074 The battery is easy to swap out. It's heavy 30kg (66 lbs) which is what makes the bike heavy. In other respects the bike is made of strong / heavy components. I believe this makes it more durable. If it were designed for competition, they could definitely make it a lot lighter with a lighter battery (less cells) but shorter range and lighter frame and forks. However, it wouldn't go far or handle falls as well. Everything is a compromise. I don't feel like it's too heavy personally and I own one. That being said, if Surron offered a considerably lighter battery with a commensurate shorter range, I'd be interested. Say 10kg (1/3 the weight) for 35km range (1/3 of the range). That would save 20kg (44 lbs) of total weight.
@TwistedTriggerEnduro
@TwistedTriggerEnduro Год назад
As an enduro rider, I'm interested. Just worried about the battery life and did you say 291 pounds? That's probably gonna be another deal breaker :/ Maybe I'm just counting the days (or years) until I'm on electric. 💪😁👍
@johnandcristinfrizellracin2128
Does it get rid of the belt setup for a grear box.
@rrphotography3600
@rrphotography3600 Год назад
Kind of glad to hear it's more dual sport than enduro, love my xr250l. It's comfy soft suspension makes long rides n trails enjoyable. And compliments its tractor ability on the trails just to get through everything with a bit of skill. I'll still going the way of the talaria as the lower weight and means I can fit 2 on the back of the ute easier.
@VoltedAdventures
@VoltedAdventures Год назад
Happy to see more of these poppin around
@okkkop
@okkkop Год назад
Looks like a solid bike. Just needs a new exhaust and it'll be ready for production!
@kingjinglefingle
@kingjinglefingle Год назад
Not a fan of the sound, personally
@lacking5724
@lacking5724 Год назад
🤣🤣
@yzrippin
@yzrippin Год назад
@@kingjinglefingle so much cooler to be able to ride urban areas cause its silent. We can have tracks in town agian. Hell in the empty lot on the block. Karens cant noise complaint. And you can go ride at 5am not bothering anyone. No warm up time instant power. Optional left hand rear braking. Where is the downside battery life? Thats what they said about gas engines and oil changes when the first came out.
@jimlahey5354
@jimlahey5354 Год назад
Hardy harrrr!
@KREllis-vr1ix
@KREllis-vr1ix Год назад
@@yzrippin "Where is the downside battery life?" - well yes. That is the downside. The BIG downside. I don't hate on EVs but this cult of personality built around electrics is just...weird.
@TravisNobles
@TravisNobles Год назад
So sick! So glad you finally got this one on your list of electrics! I'd love to hear some more in-depth thoughts on this compared to something like the Stark Varg (since you got to test that one - even if it's just based on your first impressions of the Varg), Alta Redshift (since we can still get those used) and KTM Freeride E-XC. I know these are VERY different bikes (and that the Alta's are discontinued) but hey... they're all electric bike options and those comparison videos are HUGE for helping people choose a bike for their style of riding. That and I think above all others, the comparison and general thoughts videos are my absolute favorite. I love seeing these bikes compared to other electric bikes as well as the gas bikes. It would be great to even see your lap time comparisons in different terrain (kind of like you've done with Sur Ron vs the KTM Freeride). Again, we totally understand that they are very different bikes but these comparisons are still a ton of fun to watch! Awesome content as always and looking forward to your in-depth review of this one!
@TravisNobles
@TravisNobles Год назад
@electric cycle rider it looks like someone is spamming using your profile picture...
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@@TravisNobles Thanks for the note. Yes, please disregard the scammers. They keep trying to impersonate the ECR account by using our logo and a fake name, very annoying. RU-vid should be on top if it... I'll cover those questions in the full review! Appreciate the feedback!
@TravisNobles
@TravisNobles Год назад
@@ElectricCycleRider yeah I've been reporting it every time I see it. Hopefully YT staff take care of it. Looking forward to your upcoming vids!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@DotScott At least a partial answer to your question in this comparison here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dO-s4IBTYIc.html
@yaitstac7267
@yaitstac7267 Год назад
I love how the world is going Electric, I can’t wait to see what the future brings
@dyllongeckles2122
@dyllongeckles2122 Год назад
Catastrophic failure and having to resort back to fossil fuels or some other fuel alternatives. Remember, when your Tesla runs out of battery, there's gonna be a diesel powered generator to come and save the day, probably being pulled by a diesel power truck
@butterytoast4836
@butterytoast4836 Год назад
@@dyllongeckles2122 facts
@AzTurboMini
@AzTurboMini Год назад
@@dyllongeckles2122 dude, you're speaking common sense and these people lack an once of it. Brainwashed they are and they're drunk from the Kool aid. (You're wasting your breath)🤦👍
@tmuxor
@tmuxor 16 дней назад
​@@dyllongeckles2122dumb comment. If I run out of fuel in my petrol car then an electric van could just as easily be the one delivering a jerry can of fuel to me. The smart way to look at this is each type of vehicle has its pros and cons so use what works for your lifestyle.
@CoMMenDaToR
@CoMMenDaToR Год назад
Great review as always you do. Can't wait to see full review.
@mackcity8876
@mackcity8876 Год назад
I kept waiting for you to mention about how quiet the bike is!! I think that's my favorite feature. Great video ECR. New subscriber here =)
@loz4830
@loz4830 Год назад
been waiting for this bike to come out for ages
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Loz Indeed. It's been slower to get out of the gates here in the USA compared to other countries. Nice to finally see it in person.
@moltr00ps73
@moltr00ps73 Год назад
Thank you for the cool review! One thing I notice is the rear suspension linkage goes below the swing arm this would mean you run the chance of damaging it if you use the bike for Hard Enduro or more technical riding, and makes it seem that it was more designed for single track and trail riding as you mentioned. If you want a good comparison, KTM has a similar suspension linkage on their MX/motocross bikes but the Enudro bikes have the rear suspension linkage stopping above the swing arm where it is protected from rocks and anything you might ride over. I look forward your next vid!
@camn9293
@camn9293 Год назад
Mol, not quite true. The KTM XC (not xc-w), Husky, Yamaha, Sherco and Gasgas hard enduro bikes all have linkage. I prefer the linkage KTM for my hard enduro and hare scramble riding
@moltr00ps73
@moltr00ps73 Год назад
@@camn9293 thanks for the reply but I think you may have your models mixed up. KTM’s MX bikes (SX) all have the linkage below the swing arm. The Enduro bikes (EXC and Freeride E-XC) both have the linkage above the swing arm. This was done to protect the rear suspension.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@@moltr00ps73 Thanks for the note! You're right. The KTM XC-W / EXC range use KTM's PDS rear shock, which has no linkage. The KTM SX / XC and Husky / GasGas bikes all utilize linkage suspension for both their MX / XC and Enduro bikes. Plenty of companies make skid plates that run underneath the linkage and I'm sure someone will come out with an option like that for the Storm Bee!
@72151
@72151 Год назад
Thank you for not playing music in the background. Beautiful review
@DeanF
@DeanF Год назад
Awesome Tucker! You are the main reason I own two Sur Rons.👍🏻
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Dean F Awesome Dean!! Hope you're enjoying them and thanks for the note 👍
@kzakkttixx
@kzakkttixx Год назад
The most interesting question is the average range: 1. When actively driving in sport mode 2. When driving moderately in sport mode 3. When driving in eco mode
@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 Год назад
I've owned a Storm Bee for 10 months now, so I'll take a stab at that. I'd say 30 miles (45km), 40 miles (60km) and 60 miles (100km).
@skytek9645
@skytek9645 Год назад
@@martinfoster5163 thanks for your input. Could you also put that into time ranges respectively? (As a two stroke guy I’ve never really tracked distance 😅)
@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 Год назад
@@skytek9645 well, I’d say 1, 2 and 3 hours of spirited, moderate and eco riding is approximately right. If you were in a motocross race 1 hour might be all it’d manage. I get 3 hours because I ride moderately fast in eco mode but do a lot of mountain riding, up and over passes but not insanely fast. My sense is that “sport” is mainly for high speed road riding above 80km/h (50mph). It seems unnecessary in the mountain forests and grasslands, single or no tracks. On a very nice unpaved road you might want “sport” mode. We don’t have that kind of nice unpaved. Everything around my area is rough or natural surfaces. There are some nice roads but I rarely ride on them, as I mentioned. I haven’t found the range to be limiting at all for my style of riding. If anything, I’d like a much lighter battery as an option to save weight, trading off range. Maybe they’ll offer one eventually.
@skytek9645
@skytek9645 Год назад
@@martinfoster5163 awesome. I’m keen! Thanks again
@password2798
@password2798 Год назад
@@martinfoster5163 what speed does eco mode top out at
@Luap-ls3ix
@Luap-ls3ix Год назад
Did you get a chance to look at the spokes afterwards? I know the wheels are kind of a weak point on the Sur-Rons. Bike looks like a heck of a lot of fun. Hit 70mph pretty quick and it seemed super stable.
@ark6959
@ark6959 Год назад
Unwraps his new toy and immediately breaks it, haha! I had a preconceived idea about how this bike would be and you completely nailed it. The weight, tires and suspension definitely had me thinking “dual sport”. That being said, I wonder how big of a dual sport ride you can get away with on it… Cheers, Tucker!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Introvert Adventurer Haha, par for the course! Although, the bike isn't mine. Just a test bike for the reviews. I'll be doing some "dual sport" type testing with it for the coming videos, hope to answer that question ^ 👍
@ark6959
@ark6959 Год назад
@@ElectricCycleRider Nice! Looking forward to it!
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Год назад
@@ElectricCycleRider I think considering the build and parts, it's not worth it many of the parts such as suspension are found on cheap Chinese dual sports like my own X-Pro Templar 250 or other brands like GPX FSE 250e, or Kayo K4/K6
@Ronhickmott
@Ronhickmott Год назад
Yep, that looks like bags of fun!
@milkobattiggi
@milkobattiggi Год назад
Hi Tucker, thanks for making this video. What I am most curious about is how would the make do against a comparable gas powered bike, say an FE 350s? I thought it would be light but seems to come in heavier???
@davidsteinhour5562
@davidsteinhour5562 Год назад
Seems like the "ride it to the trail, on the trail, and home" compromise. I dig it.
@gophop
@gophop Год назад
better live close to that trail
@laurentzirotti7788
@laurentzirotti7788 Год назад
Thank you for your review. Btw congrats on the TKO race. Impressive. I’m ready to buy a Electric motion escape R and after this video I’m not sure anymore !?!? I’m 60 years old and like to ride single track. My concern with the storm bee would be the additional 90 lbs weight between these 2 bikes. What are your thoughts and advice. Thank you.
@jmos96
@jmos96 Год назад
Hope to see the full review quickly and a comparison with the Freeride and the Alta mxr.
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Год назад
Nice. I'd love to see that in a supermoto configuration as well. Would be an excellent city bike.
@HannahFortalezza
@HannahFortalezza Год назад
Agreed! I feel like an electric supermoto would be the perfect combination
@elekid330
@elekid330 Год назад
Are you kidding me my guy!? This bike is a despicably fast awesome exactly what many of us have been waiting for,starting on everything from the looks to dash lines another flowing emotion that all out Motocross all in your face look
@davidbarfield3489
@davidbarfield3489 Год назад
I just found your channel! Greatness!
@Laruxo
@Laruxo Год назад
Very timely review. I plan to order one here in Europe over the winter as it should be a good upgrade over CRF250L. Looking forward to see your full impressions! Also, would be interested to see a side by side comparison with the KTM Freeride (performance, range, etc).
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Laurynas Awesome to hear! In the chassis department, the Storm honestly feels quite similar to the CRF250L. In the power department, the Storm has a lot more torque! I'll definitely be doing some comparisons and range tests, stay tuned. 👍
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Laurynas Side by side comparison here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dO-s4IBTYIc.html
@MongrelShark
@MongrelShark Год назад
Here in Australia the DRZ is fondly referred to as the "Bush Pig" Because its versatillity in the bush is amazing. But its a fat heavy pig too. Looking at the Storm Bee specs 2 years ago I flagged the storm bee as an electric bush pig. They even got the colour right. Its 50kg too heavy and a little low on power to be fun for sport riding but its a great fire trail get around. Sadly not many people have a need for that these days.... Leaves me still longing for the sub 80kg CR500 replacement I know is possible. Maybe one day someone will get a stark varg motor into a light bee and then we will have something really cool. Re questions. Whats it sound like? Your voice audio was awesome quality, but I found it took away form the review because I couldn't hear the bike over the talking. Perhaps you can get a few mic on bike moments in future reviews?
@stevec7435
@stevec7435 Год назад
I've heard those aus K5 bikes are great bang for your buck. Are they good compared to these?
@MongrelShark
@MongrelShark Год назад
@@stevec7435 I haven't tried a K5. I have a light bee. I personally find mid drive to be much snappier and better unsprung weight. Hard to compare to a pedal assist hub drive.
@rwolfcastle
@rwolfcastle Год назад
Heck yeah! Can't wait for your full review! I would love to know your thoughts when compared to the KTM FR. I mainly ride trials, light Enduro, and some woods riding. I bought a Talaria as proof of concept and always thought the KTM was my end goal, but who knows maybe it will be the Stormbee.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@R Wolfcastle For sure! I'll get into detail and address that in the coming videos. Thanks for the note 👍
@SunKing2010
@SunKing2010 Год назад
Have the Husky 501 and ride same as you except moderate to technical enduro. Bought the talaria sting for my wife and me to ride around town on the bike trails and love them! Ordered the Stark Varg and can't wait for delivery. The 501 weighs 260 loaded with gear and fuel BTW. I have full faith the electric bikes will take over sooner than later.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@@SunKing2010 I'm a big fan of the 501! A very close friend of mine owns a 2019 and it's been an awesome machine. Cool to hear you've got the Sting to ride around. Very different from your 501 but super fun in the right environment. My hope is for the eMoto bikes to eventually solve the range (and charging) dilemma. If and when that happens, there will be some hard decisions to be made when it comes time to buy a bike... Still 2T and 4T bikes in my garage until that time comes though.
@elgringoec
@elgringoec Год назад
@@SunKing2010 I had a great ride on my friend's 501! I have a 300 but I love that bike too.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@GeoMac Granddad Both awesome bikes!!
@elih9588
@elih9588 Год назад
Very diplomatic summary! 290lb bike that rides like a '80s dual sport. Maybe it would make a cool street supermoto
@adventure0ffroad858
@adventure0ffroad858 Год назад
Sweet video, loved the speed!
@joshba79
@joshba79 Год назад
Thanks for the review. I'm looking forward to more info on how long can in be ridden in 1 day. I just got back from a 4 day trip where I rode around 60-70 miles per day (average of 5-6 bike running hours) in the Colorado mountains on a 2017 Husqvarna 450 FX. It used an average of 1.2 gal of gas per day on a mix of 30% dirt roads & 70% single track with lots of hill climbs. As you may know, mountain trails & mostly 50/50 up & down, with lots of big rocks & roots to hop over. Do you think this bike would do well in a trip like this?
@lckygbw45
@lckygbw45 Год назад
If there is anything you can compare with the Light Bee, what did surron get better on this model/get wrong? The light bee is very upgradable, do you see similar opportunities for the Storm to also be upgraded? What features would you recommend upgrading right out of the box, for a true dual sport?
@burgerbarn5000
@burgerbarn5000 Год назад
Wherever you are riding, that place is awesome!!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Matt Tesch Colorado!
@jipyjaje7871
@jipyjaje7871 10 месяцев назад
I like the no music just real sounds and explanation ceep up the great work🫡💪
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk Год назад
Nice bit of kit looks great .
@urbanpiping2305
@urbanpiping2305 Год назад
Love my light bee x!! This thing looks knarly
@roughready7491
@roughready7491 Год назад
I strictly race harescrambles on the east coast. I'd love to have an electric bike to race with. Currently I race a ktm 250 2stroke with a rekluse clutch. What would be the best option for me? Can the battery (or an upgraded battery) last a full 2hr+ race? If not is there a model that has a quick swap capability?
@noidea1962
@noidea1962 Год назад
That looks like the terrain I'm used to riding here in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I'm really interested in an electric dirt bike, just to see how much more wildlife I can 'sneak' up on. I see a TON of deer, turkeys and once in a great while, a coyote...how much more would I get to see with a much quieter bike. Good ride, thanks.
@vne5195
@vne5195 Год назад
You're fast and you made the bike like like tons of fun.
@oliviergagnon2592
@oliviergagnon2592 Год назад
Nice review thanks
@coltonross9751
@coltonross9751 Год назад
Wow, those trails are technical!! Where is this video filmed? Also, do you think you could do another video on this bike like in 6 months or longer just to check up on it and see how it's holding up? I'll give a sub...
@ROGERWALDMAN
@ROGERWALDMAN Год назад
could you do a top speed one the street and a range test on street / highway and dirt both miles and hours / minutes range estimate / make your best guess. also will there be battery range upgrades or quick swap / ways to add batteries for more range capabilities ?
@fivetwentythreepov
@fivetwentythreepov Год назад
Great vid, I am curious to see what models they offer, like maybe a strictly dirt model or a true dual sport or mx model. Keep ‘em coming👍.
@michaelanderson3771
@michaelanderson3771 Год назад
They do have a storm Bee MX - same bike without lights horn or blinkers. In Aus $1000.00 less than the enduro kit
@fivetwentythreepov
@fivetwentythreepov Год назад
@@michaelanderson3771 oh that sounds sweet. Hopefully they will start becoming easily available soon thanks.
@marks-0-0
@marks-0-0 Год назад
Do you think the Storm Bee would be suitable for slower more technical enduro events and general tecky fun ride outs? Thanks
@robertos4172
@robertos4172 Год назад
Air cooled? (Seems so) any issues with power reductions as motor heats up? As a "dual sport" you would expect sustained high speed fire road capability without heat issues.
@MDUBZ
@MDUBZ Год назад
Awesome video, was waiting for you to test out this bike! Question, how do you get your footage so smooth - just a GoPro10 with stabilization or also stabilizing extra in post?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@MDUBZ Thanks! I'm actually using the GoPro Hero 7 with stabilization. The Hero 10 has given me nothing but problems, it shuts itself off all the time and freezes. When it is working, the picture is very nice though!
@powamoto
@powamoto Год назад
Cool dirt bike thing rips boi 💯⚡💥👀
@scottbrand6894
@scottbrand6894 Год назад
Great video! Can it be charged on north American 120/240volts?
@lostdirtknifeandtool
@lostdirtknifeandtool Год назад
I would like a comparison to the EM Escape. Thanks.
@allenanthony2651
@allenanthony2651 Год назад
Great video! Questions: frame size of the bike? (Storm bee is small) , charge duration vs storm bee , and suspension
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Allen Anthony I'll address that! It is much larger than a Lightbee X. Full size dirt bike.
@greg.peepeeface
@greg.peepeeface Год назад
That bass hits
@odedmazor2657
@odedmazor2657 Год назад
Weighs the same as the Alta Redshift. How would you compare the two for Enduro riders?
@livingcheap811
@livingcheap811 Год назад
where do you take these test rides im super curious on where those types of mountain trailrides are
@maximusmiles8435
@maximusmiles8435 Год назад
When you pushed the high low beam button. Did I see the cluster move?
@braaaaaains
@braaaaaains Год назад
Mmm, coming from a DR650 in the Socal area, this might be my next bike. Thanks.
@MichaelAbramo
@MichaelAbramo Год назад
I am a broken record, but if e-moto manufacturers want to be serious about competition, they need to equip their enduro bikes with mechanical clutches. I can look past the fact that there is no gearbox (though I think a 3-speed or 4-speed gearbox would pair great with an enduro bike), but cannot look past the lack of clutch. Clutches are for finite control of power delivery to the rear wheel. Maybe the MX racers will be happy to get on a Stark Varg and ditch the clutch, but we enduro racers will not. All the e-trials competition bikes come with clutches for good reason. Enduro bikes need them as well. As for the Storm Bee, listening to your feedback and impressions, it sounds like the bike is sort of like the new KLX230 or CRF230F. A solid trail bike that will handily perform on most trails but maybe the geometry and suspension (and brakes?) are holding it back from being a true performer. Maybe the Storm Bee doesn't need a clutch, but then again, based on your description it's not a competition bike.
@jonathantatler
@jonathantatler Год назад
You had me at 'DR', I want one for town 👍
@GlassfilmWeddings
@GlassfilmWeddings Год назад
Dude this is sick and I need one. It’s the best. Compared to the nicot ebeast surron is on top! I love my light bee x. I need a storm bee for the trails!
@alexandramichels945
@alexandramichels945 Год назад
Good riding!
@MerlinOlsen
@MerlinOlsen Год назад
Looks fun as hell!
@Axophelioma
@Axophelioma Год назад
I pretty much ride single track 98% of the time and this is exactly what the editor world has been waiting for. I’d love to put it to hard testing through rocky stuff in PA and WV
@KTMsoldier1988
@KTMsoldier1988 Год назад
Don't see electric being good for technical single track. The way the power would come on i don't see me liking it at all....i like to be able to control my power with the clutch. You would have to have traction control to prevent wheel spin and anyone who knows anything about traction control knows when you want and need the power but your spinning the engine falls flat on its face.
@tonypritchard1138
@tonypritchard1138 Год назад
It looks like a blast but I can't help but feel like I'll still have more fun on my Surron XX on trails like this. This feels more like a dualsport that doesn't excel at any specific thing other than maybe acceleration.
@NexGen-3D
@NexGen-3D Год назад
XR400 is right on the money, heavy comfy, great for open fire trails, great for soft sand dunes and open long high speed trails, but I'm shocked at how well its handling the technical stuff though, I would never had done that on my old XR400.
@izom
@izom Год назад
your xr will ride when all this electric junk is dead...and it gifs you feelin and a sound...
@NexGen-3D
@NexGen-3D Год назад
@@izom Yeh if you can ever get the basted started, TBH I rid a hard core electric mountain bike now, and I enjoy that more than I ever enjoyed my trail bikes.
@aviadreis8088
@aviadreis8088 Год назад
Hello, great video! I want to ask what is your setup for taking the videos? thanks
@quattroblacksheep1156
@quattroblacksheep1156 Год назад
@Electric Cycle Rider where is this? THE TERRAIN IS AWESOME & BEAUTIFUL. GREAT VIDEO THANKS.
@stalink.eleftheros5708
@stalink.eleftheros5708 Год назад
Which one is better to buy surron storm or stark varg alpha
@budwhite9781
@budwhite9781 Год назад
Sur Ron should just make a Light Bee that comes with upgraded controller and 72v battery. It would save a lot of people a lot of money on all of the aftermarket upgrades, and Sur Ron would sell tons of them. This Storm Bee model is in a whole other class for sure. Looks good. Cheers.
@shmokeythefatcat
@shmokeythefatcat Год назад
they did for limeted time
@jodypatrizio3044
@jodypatrizio3044 Год назад
That thing looks really cool and I'm excited that the electric dirt bike technology is improving. I am bummed that this thing weighs so much though!!! 290 seems like a lot!
@joem8601
@joem8601 Год назад
Yesterday I tried a 562 pound electric motorcycle for the first time, mind you I never rode something heavier than a surron before and I learned how to ride that thing in 20 seconds. Check out the livewire motorcycle for reference. I was even stable at 5 mph with all the weight It has roll of throttle regen which is customizable and it helped me control the speed and turns better, not to mention I didn't even use the Brembo brakes. I'm comparing apples and oranges because my 72v surron didn't even stand a chance, same as it wont stand a chance against the storm bee on those trails because it's not built for it. I also think 290 lbs isn't a big difference from 110 lbs stock to - 140 lbs upgraded surrons Your average Ninja/CBR's weight around 350-400+ lbs, even the 250cc's If anything the weight probably adds more traction and the beefier suspension helps for this kind of fast technical riding.
@racerx3669
@racerx3669 Год назад
@@joem8601 less weight is always better unless on the freeway.
@jimmunro4649
@jimmunro4649 Год назад
Way to Heavy
@joem8601
@joem8601 Год назад
@@jimmunro4649 Perhaps but you’ll never truly know until you try
@Tacoexplorer
@Tacoexplorer Год назад
Yeah a bit heavy. I’m considering a KTM 350 and it weight 228 lbs dry.
@douggarvey4599
@douggarvey4599 Год назад
How about the frame size? Big enough for a 5’11” rider with a dad bod?
@jamesgregware5500
@jamesgregware5500 Год назад
Would love to see an ongoing rating for top-level electric trail bikes (including their msrp)... How would this one compare to the Stark Varg?
@EssPhour
@EssPhour Год назад
They are really controlling the PR on the Varg, They aren't letting any independents test their bikes that aren't under their control, while they are bringing in outside people to get the bike exposure,they are controlling everyting else, they bring them in to ride the bikes on custom-designed tracks, they roll the bikes out of the van's and tell the guy he is allowed 5 laps then has to come back with in, then they might sawp him out to another bike, I think there is a little too much hype sauce around the Vargs, people who ordered them are supposed to take delivery early 2023. That's my long way of saying, there are no comparo tests vesus the Varg, and there most likely won't be until people can actually buy them, so maybe next spring we will see one in the wild that can be compared.
@justincoats7236
@justincoats7236 Год назад
@@EssPhour I've been wondering about the Varg. Just no one has come close to their numbers. All the engineers at KTM, Honda, Zero, aren't coming close to weight, power, and range. You have me thinking they are throwing a small battery in there, so great power, light weight, but hiding the low range.
@EssPhour
@EssPhour Год назад
@@justincoats7236 I shouldn't get down on the bike, I've just had some debates with fan boys, and I see how Varg promotes the pros while skipping the cons, It's the game they can play with EV's programmable ECU settings, They can say it has 80HP but they don't tell us if that is Peak or Nominal, if its peak, it's only temporarily available, hypothetically maybe only 90 seconds, then the ECU defaults to 45HP for the next 5 minutes to allow the motor to cool down. If I remember correctly the bike weighs right around 250lbs so about the same as a 450cc four-stroke. I could say more negative, but on the positive side, they have put notable effort to lighten up the bike as much as possible, largely just by using exotic materials like carbon fiber, the shocks are from a major name brand supplier custom designed for the bike, put all the range questions to the side, if it was available right now it would be fastest and best handling motocross EV available, although KTM's bike could possibly prove otherwise in the suspension department.
@justincoats7236
@justincoats7236 Год назад
@@EssPhour thanks for the info. I've been watching a lot of RU-vid videos about the Varg. They look awesome. I just question because Honda, Yamaha, KTM, and Zero don't seem to have anything close. My buddy has a Zero 7.2. It's all street. It's so fast. No shifting, just a perfect strong pull from zero to 75mph. It weighs close to 290 lbs. It can run 50 miles at 60mph. It will last longer if you aren't running it so hard. It's just hard to see the Varg at 50 pounds lighter with a longer lasting battery. I just wonder.
@EssPhour
@EssPhour Год назад
@@justincoats7236, I think Yamaha is the one to watch, They have been quietly active with EV technology for at least the last 6-8 years, they have a factory team EV Trials bike they've been racing the last few years, they claimed they lighten the battery by 25% in their newest version this year, but they give no specs on the bike. One of the hyper car companies Koenig? is building a hybrid car, it will be using Yamaha EV motors, a single wheel motor weighs 50lbs & puts out 300HP.
@nathanielstuckey6466
@nathanielstuckey6466 Год назад
The stark varg seems to have this one beat. I wonder if or what they will change to compete
@Arseny.Petukhov
@Arseny.Petukhov Год назад
Where it was filmed? Absolutely stunning location! Such a beautiful nature
@Charles-Darwin
@Charles-Darwin Год назад
Oh man finally a vid about this thing...they've been holding out in the US. How does it compare to the Varg?
@GroovyVideo2
@GroovyVideo2 Год назад
compared storm to DRZ - Very heavy with ok suspension -
@jochenschrey2909
@jochenschrey2909 Год назад
Could you show the battery removal process? My garage has no wall socket. Do you see a chance to deploy a cart with a crane, for handling the battery? Thanks in advance.
@human1513
@human1513 Год назад
Overall a good bike. Not a mx bike but most people use a bike like you rode this today.
@reedkelly6145
@reedkelly6145 Год назад
GREAT riding. OK so questions..... 1Are the turn signals / head lamp LED? 2Is the battery removable / swappable? 3 Battery run time trail / city / highway 4 TYPE of battery, LFP / NCA / NCM / Ternary? 5 Charge time? 6 Insure process, have the bike street legal? Does it require inspections, etc.? 7 Are there tire options, I see knobs in the vide, but what about a more 50/50, stock? 8 When will the price of the bike be available, and price of the battery? 9 What maintenance is needed, I see chain not belt, so there is at least some maintenance, what else? 10 Is the charger stored in the bike, I can go on linger trip and charge at 1/2 way point? 11 Are all parts available on line, shipping to Canada, USA, Mexico? 12 Expected life of bike / battery. Probably a guess, but will it hold up? Can I be riding it in 25 years time? 13 Life of the electric motor, what motor is in it? 14 Direct competitor? Love Zero but way to expensive. I would buy Zero if it was 50% cheaper. 15 What about changing sprockets / gears to get a top end of a consistent highway 90mph? Ride to the trail, do trail riding, then ride home. Also use for work commute. 16 Are components going to last and are they correct for this bike? Meaning, IMO the components on the similar Zero are for stopping at 200MPH, for jumping down 5 meters, are for bikes that weigh triple. All not needed. Big names sound cool, cost more, but on a say 200cc-350cc powered bike, are just not necessary. 17 When looking for low cost, reliable, durable, not big flashy component part, not paying for brand name (Harley), just want it to work and last, is this a good bike for that? I am not a pro that needs top end Eqip.
@justprospecting697
@justprospecting697 Год назад
I just woke up from a very long sleep and after watching your video I feel tired again
@jermainerobinson9904
@jermainerobinson9904 Год назад
Says plenty of power then hits the tree and just say ooohhh . Love that
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Jermaine Robinson Haha
@r.foshee1578
@r.foshee1578 Год назад
will that left hand light module tighten down it looked a bit loose?
@becomer1
@becomer1 Год назад
It would be so weird riding a dirt bike without that 2 or 4 stroke sound bellowing from the frame below. I think part of the joy of riding comes from that sound..
@hookedonfishing2095
@hookedonfishing2095 Год назад
When will they be available for order?
@DingDongDrift
@DingDongDrift Год назад
what do you think needs to change on it for it to be a bad ass dirt bike?
@OregonMotorcycle
@OregonMotorcycle Год назад
First question: What state is that? Looks amazing. Would like to see a few different range test. And, ..... This turbo button you speak of 🤔
@mistermister2085
@mistermister2085 Год назад
I think Colorado.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
I live in Colorado. I'll cover the TURBO button in the review but in the meantime, here is the Storm Bee battery range test video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M7OdA4gijjg.html
@raceprovisions
@raceprovisions Год назад
You had me at "Turbo Button." 😂
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
@Race Provisions TURBO!!!
@bjs001001
@bjs001001 Год назад
My question is about the range. How long can you ride it under normal enduro style riding conditions. Some uphill, downhill, flatland riding.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Год назад
Storm Bee battery range test video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M7OdA4gijjg.html
@chuckwalters4759
@chuckwalters4759 Год назад
will it be another 210v like the KTM because using a dryer plug option is dumb!
@aboveworld8209
@aboveworld8209 Год назад
So do you now have to register this to ride it on the road ?
@kingmaxmoto4680
@kingmaxmoto4680 Год назад
its awsome but since i want to be stealt so its so not what im looking for but its realy nice that they going into the supercross type ppl !!! good compagnie
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 Год назад
What a machine ❤🙏
@crushervox7898
@crushervox7898 Год назад
The bike is awesome so far. But I gotta ask. Where are you riding. Those trails look beautiful
@michaelanderson3771
@michaelanderson3771 Год назад
Hey Tucker What is your weight with gear. The Storm Bee enduro just landed in Aus this past few weeks and the max rider weight stated 100 kg (224 lbs) anyone over that needs to upgrade suspension. Not sure if just a spring or if new full rear shock required. Dealer not sure at moment. Too new for them to know. RRP in Aus =AUD 14,490.00 plus on roads as it is road reg capable. Interested to see what range or riding time is in real world single track like you were doing. In Aus trailer to bush and ride for a 6-8 hr day -I guess will require a generator to charge back up if range is not great. Love your content
@speedbird737
@speedbird737 Год назад
I own the storm bee in the UK only ridden 20 miles in 11 months since taking delivery. I must get out more! You should put hand guards on it - bike looks better with them!
@joelblizzard160
@joelblizzard160 Год назад
Looks pretty cool. The thing I'm curious about is really really slow trails, how does it do with slow uphill stuff? Is it just all down to throttle control? I'm just trying to understand how it works without a clutch to manage putting the power to the ground. I'm envisioning some stuff I've ridden where I'm climbing very loose/sandy steep trails and by the nature of the trail I can't have a lot of speed. I can feather the clutch and manage exactly how much wheelspin or no wheelspin I want at various points. Also is there a way to disengage the drive? Again I'm just struggling with the thought of no clutch, what if you want to free wheel roll down a hill with no resistance from the drivetrain?
@allegorx58
@allegorx58 Год назад
computers man. esc’s handle most of that
@buckdashe2571
@buckdashe2571 Год назад
Have to say, I’m totally weirded out by the REAR brake being where the front brake usually is on a motorcycle.
@MrLethal1986
@MrLethal1986 Год назад
Do you have any information on spare parts from sur ron? Eventually these bikes will start to fail, how easy is it going to be to get parts like bearings and bushings? I haven't got a clue on the sizing, if they are standard or all random.
@joebarczak1448
@joebarczak1448 Год назад
In the start up sequence, did u say the right hand is the rear brake?
@iang3728
@iang3728 Год назад
Was this the bike sitting down at Motoclops last month? Thinking about picking up one of those talaria
@mike87364
@mike87364 Год назад
Great video where is this beautiful ride?!
@fr3style
@fr3style Год назад
How would you compare this to the STARK VARG? since this can be street legal its so much more of a sale for me. I am not a MX rider i just want a nice offroad bike that i can ride to work some times
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