NEW Surface Pro & Surface Laptop - The MacBook Competition! 

the press release from months back was from qualcolm itself. This is microsoft press release. In other words still too early for actual review . June 18th is when some of oems will be selling laptops.

There's going to be a lot of laptop makers using these chips. There'll be cheaper laptops.

Yeah, unless you’re a tech reviewer or someone like collecting all things tech like me. Just wait.

@@AndrewDavie-er3ug Yes true but I have an old iPad and would like to get back to a windows laptop but not crazy expensive and the choices are confusing me. Not looking to go editing or gaming but needs to be fast-ish and smooth. Asus vivobook ? HP Spectre x360 ? the other 50 brands of windows laptops haha. I am lost. Obviously, not looking to pay 1500$

@@bradavon not happening, unless snapdragon makes s vheaper designed chip

@@sofianebenzaza If you can get your hands on a year ish old Surface in new condition, you will be set. I had Pro 4, used it for 4+ years, only replaced it due to online college during COVID & I could only afford 4GB RAM version then. Replaced it the 2020 Spectre X360 and I regret my decision so much. The Surface rarely ever gave me issues except camera maybe twice in 4 years, which was fixed easily thru the Microsoft Forums. This X360 has weird display issues, randomly display shuts off for 3 seconds and restarts, Battery life is a lot less than other laptops, fans sound horrible, camera is so trash windows hello recognizes me 50% of the time, fingerprint sensor is useless despite setting up the same finger in all kinds of ways. Now this is an old model and I surely am thankful for it, but I badly miss my Surface Pro 4 and the 2in1 factor for my desk setup w/extra monitor. It is still being used by family friend who needed something for less demanding college work.

Just do it on an iPad Pro. Who would wanna edit video on the Surface Pro’s display? Zero anti-glare. Worse glare I’ve ever seen on a tablet.

@@indyjones720 iPad does not work with premiere pro at the moment :) I do video work for a living and does have the whole big fancy setup with big editing pcs and 4 screens and all.. but would be so cool to have a remote setup to take with me sometimes. Ipads are great.. but I use my iPad pro more for illustrator sketching to use in aftereffects when using a ipad for anything

more like the haptic trackpad, god have i been waiting for that to arrive. immediately pre-ordered it.

Dude, the price of new keyboard plus pen is $450 😵

Great for keyboard shortcuts for artists

I think this is the only main changes on surface line since two years ago.

@@christopherng5847 still better than the ipad

Huawei has been doing this for about a year now, detachable keyboard

@@jamesscott2368 yeah well it’s new to surfaces

cringe ahh response

Most popular browsers, all Microsoft apps, popular IDEs and some Adobe apps, Davinci Resolve are already available. Games will take some time

They are not !

x86 Emulation isn't slow by any means. It is just as good as Rosetta 2, if not better in certain instances. The issue, is Windows. Most software in the Microsoft Store should have already had support for arm64 bit processors. The question is whether these systems are usable for applications that matter. I think they will be. Qualcomm is trying really hard to beat Apple Silicon; they can, but 80W power consumption at peak for an arm chip is a lot for peak performance.

All ads and data profiling is already ported, don’t worry. 😂

I was advised by several people to WAIT. Precisely because this is all very new on Windows. I'll wait a few years.

Ya keyboard is crazy expensive /=

​@@MatthewMoniz "Wireless keyboard? Finally! How much? 100 something?" *Looks it up - 350 bucks. "I keep my old one thank you very much!" That was my actual reaction this morning! 😅

apple ipad keyboard also 400$

499, before tax! Lunatics. Then around 2000 for the tablet with top specs. Just get a laptop.

@@MatthewMoniz How expensive is apples wonky looking keyboard for the iPad Pro? can you use it disconnected? does it hold the pencil when not in use?

Yeah and it's also the Surface Pro 11 😂

Because Matthew got it wrong, the 6 and 9 are the business devices.

​@@ruhri0411 you got it wrong too, its the 6 and the 10

@@nick0_ It's not the 6th and 10th gen Surface products. Those generations use the old design along with 14th generation Intel processors. Apparently, they are also only available for businesses. They released some months ago.

They're not. Microsoft officially is not using numbers for these models.

The business Surface Laptop and Pro are called that; the consumer X Elite are not. Matt was right.

​@@HigherQualityUploadsno it's the official name. It's specified on the Microsoft official website. Also, it's present in the info page in the settings. They're are the official names

Microsoft is copying Apple, calling them 11th gen and 7th in settings only not in marketing material. So Matt was indeed wrong, but things are a bit more nuanced

@@andyH_EnglandFalse! They are referred to that internally as Pro 11 and Laptop 7 by distributors like TD Synnex. However, officially, the “for Business” SKUs will also be listed as 11th Edition and 7th Edition just like the consumer SKUs.

Who would buy a secondhand 4years old laptop? No one care how much it worth after 4 years. Same goes to phone and tech in general.

As it should with anything used and tech

Just like any technology.

You should get Lenovo, Acer or Asus. You will get OLED screen for a cheaper price too.

Weird... My surface pro 7 has been lighting fast. Cold boots in 15 seconds and then runs anything immediately with no issues... Not to say that this isn't true of my other two windows computers as well... Windows is only slow if you have a slow drive, not enough ram, or you fill it with bloatware

The advantage of Windows is the ability to find devices that fit your budget. The Surface lineup is aimed at those who can afford them.

Which laptop would you recommend for someone who is starting a CS degree and plans on using the same computer till the end of the course? I was thinking about buying a macbook air m2x, but I’m still considering a dell xps, lenovo thinkpad or maybe even the new microsoft surface. I’ve been using a lenovo laptop until now, I’ve already used for a previous degree, but its life didn’t seem to last too long. And since I’ve been using an ipad for a long time and now I have an iphone, I thought about giving a try to a MBA

Same question

Since 2021 they've been a lot easier to repair.

AR coating is specific to laptop 6 and pro 10 for business, not consumer versions

2 via a Surface Dock and one plugged directly into USBC or some combo like that.

I thought I was the only one noticing this error, Surface pro 11 not 10 and Surface laptop 7 not 6 are Snapdragon Elite models the other are Intel core ultras

Did they actually say Surface Pro 11? I agree that's what it should be called, but they seem to just branding it as the new surface pro, copilot+ PC.

I’m hoping it pushes them to make iPadOS better. Otherwise I might have to get this new surface

They are charging more than apple for worse performance. Idk who this is for.

@@hajjdawood people who like windows more than macOS but want the battery life of a Mac. Which is a decent amount of people. Plus most people are still on m1 MacBooks anyway. Plenty of performance there. So the new surfaces should be fine assuming the x86 emulation is solid

the reason was that Intel is making a Copilot Surface pro 11th later this year, but they are not ready yet

Why would you need fanless laptop, fan noise should be inaudible unless you run anything super intensive

every fanless device thermal throttles, id rather have a device with a small fan that barely runs to cool down than a device with no fan that always throttles.

I want that promise thin and light 2 and 1 PC. Surface Pro X was it at the time. I love that device for college. Surface Pro X did everything better for me in college. I want a Surface Pro X Gen 2 with latest Snapdragon Chip. It could be a X Plus Chip if the Elite is too much.

@@WarAlex16 there is pratical minimum limit for laptop thickness to avoid stupid compromise like soldered ssd, awfull build quality, bending issues, lack of port selection which force you to carry dongle that reduce portability, insane thermal throttling and awfull battery life cuz insufficient space.remember, even macbook air which use arm chip cannot sustain its performance cuz its have no fan, in the world of tech there is always a sweet spot that you have follow to keep making consistently good product

@@WarAlex16 if i want windows tablet like Microsoft surface i want it thin but not to the point that it cannot fit usb type a, hdmi, and m.2 ssd

7th

Some apps have been rewritten for arm anything else will be translated on the fly using prism Microsoft’s translation layer

I don't want an OLED. OLED's have burn-in, faded or dead pixels, screen-door effect and flicker.

I feel that

Thank God Russia will win and Ukraine will cease to be a country.

AI isnt stupid, it's smarter than most people, including yourself, and we can get a lot of things done with it. AI is the future of the human race and everyone is adopting it these days, to get an advantage over those that dont use it. so, just because you don't like ai, does not mean that the rest of the world doesn't. you can pass, nobody cares. nobody cares that there are people who still cry about wanting a headphone jack. Most people simply adapted to wireless headphones. so you can pass, remain in the stone age and cry there.

@@businessmanager7670 Congrats on guzzling the Kool-Aid hook, line and sinker. Nadella is so proud of you. Too bad it obviously doesn't help with anger issues, but I'll make an exception and come down to your level. If you really think AI is _smart_ (granted, it _is_ smarter than your post), you should ask your favorite model to explain AI to you. Being able to make billions and trillions of connections in seconds within a confined model isn't _smart,_ it's _fast._ And that's all it is. Humans are _smart._ Well, some of them, anyway. Just because it has niche uses when I work with Photoshop et al. doesn't mean I need AI in my life 24/7. But feel free to use it until the cows come home. Marry it if you like. It'll be fun when you can't even tie your shoes during the next power outage or write a letter to a client because there's nobody telling you how to write your text in a formal manner. A few years down the road, you'll be the dumbo with the Fisher-Price style laptop that has only a single fat button and won't let you do anything unless your beloved model has been trained for it. Maybe a nice world for those who never had much use for their brains in the first place. Not for me, I gladly opt out. Safe travels. 👋

@@businessmanager7670 the problem with the AI are the persons who know that the AI is smarter than humans and still then, defend the AI 🤣 so… the AI will conclude “why humans?” and so starts the terminator series 😅 Back to the present: everything bla bla AI. The only AI I want is one that helps me on my work and doesn’t substitute me

They have fans but yes they should be quieter since they are using less power

it is the x-80 version

The ones that are run more efficiently if they are not they get translated in realtime.

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Yes recall is weird

Supposedly they’ve optimized a lot better now. But only time will tell I suppose. Just rumors or theories until proven otherwise

I guess there won't be zero compatibility issue. Perhaps it depends on software which you plan to use on this laptop. Probably Office applications should be fine but not sure about no MS applications.

Dont ask !

I agree it’s a great moment for windows users! Thank you

Pro 4, no. The Pro 8, 9, new model and business 10, use a different keyboard.

Just saw your comment. The backwards compatibility will be for these keyboards as they use the same connectors: Surface Pro X Surface Pro 8 Surface Pro 9/10

People tend to use left and right keys more than up and down.

@@ashketchup6443 Having the "inverted T" improves ergonomics a lot, regards of wether people use left/right or up/down more, as feeling the keys in the keyboard becomes much easier That's the reason why Apple returned to the "inverted T" in its Macbook lineup, both in the smaller and big models

@@gorofujita5767 Apple just made the left and right keys smaller, which I'd argue is worse. But as you said, if you use all four keys, maybe it improves the feel of it.

About 15% on single and multicore

Maybe if you’re making billboards

You don’t need a million layers as an artist

No oled on surface laptop. Only Surface Pro

Then just uninstall windows and use Linux. That's the only way.

Pro X for business only.

@@samjaiwin there was another, pro x before that

That would be awesome

@@MatthewMoniz Yes it would mate. The day that happens will probably be the day I say goodbye to my Mac and my I pad and have one device for all depending on how things go

yes