New swamp trails: Pioneer wont get stuck! 5 Talons 

Most people still prefer the t a l o n it looks better and it rides smoother at higher speeds and the seats are much more comfortable

I want both lol have talon have had p500 want a p1000

Hehe me too

It's a pretty simple reason that's not the right platform to do that with. The Rubicon has more power better gearing options and a front locking differential from the factory. Also I don't really build stupid big stuff like that because I don't just drive from one mud hole to the next I also have to cover a lot of ground and do trails

Very loaded. Question depends on about a million factors. Pioneer has front locker but talon has more suspension, articulation and more power and clears larger tire stock. But that's just the start of the conversation

@MudPuppyOffroad with same size tires which does better in say hollowpaw? Doing water hole crossings? Does talons edge over pioneer matter?

@@ptgtdcr Holopaw is easy off-roading both do well

@MudPuppyOffroad okay I'm about to get a 2024 1000-5 Pioneer I think... just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaving myself open to a disappointment on the trails/ mud holes from what I can tell you lose top speed performance which I'm not really looking and some comfort, I just need to keep up with everyone else... with the pioneer I would gain a front Locker and extra storage room at the cost of comfort and speed... about right? Any other draw backs I should take into account? Do you have any buyer remorse after swapping to pioneer from talon?

@@ptgtdcr I wouldn't buy a five-seater. Back seats are trash. Get a six-seater

Ram mount

How am I supposed to know what side by side you're talking about man there's a bunch in this video

My p1k dash still works

You really couldn't pick two more different machines. I don't even know where to start with that. The little Pioneer has essentially no suspension and is very three wheel drive. The Talon has great power but is about three and a half wheel drive LOL

Talon all the way!! P500 is great on 50” trails but talon is just way way way more fun and comfortable and not as slow or clunky sounding