Most time travel inducers are 6v. All that Tony needs is the time travel attachment and, viola', no more rewiring each piece of equipment for time travel.
Great video. Lucky man finding this mill. I was also looking for a Deckel and ended up with a Thiel 158 made in 1966. I am equally delighted with it and am enjoying your videos on tricks to get the best out of it.
I have a Schaublin lathe, a 102-80 from 1965. It amazes me every time I use it how well built it is and everything is just right. I have the only one I know of in my area and have not seen one of their mills in person yet. My lathe puts the other machines in my shop to shame in fit and finish. The one thing that you may find out is that there is a cost associated with the build quality when you go to buy parts or accessories. There is a section on practical machinist forum for Schaublins if you haven't found it yet.
Congratulations. Schaublin is amazing. I studied on a technical school where all machines were swiss-made, mostly Schaublin, Aciera, Mikron, SIP, Tripet and Jung. I love the precision and the finishing of swiss machines. Now I have money to purchase these machines but they are extremely hard to find in Brazil.
Swiss engineering is marvelous. No bells and whistles. Pure practicality. The common man can run this machine expertly in somewhat short order. That’s done by design.
Very nice machine,i used to work a lot with the schaublin 13 in the past. These machines are known for their accuracy,especially in combination with the Heidenhain dro. The 6v sockets are for worklights an some schaublin made attachments such as a microscope to center the cutters
A very nice mill, can't beat the Swiss for precision machines. I used to work a Deckel in a toolroom way back about 46 years ago, that was a little beauty too. I am envious, enjoy it, Tony! :-)
The Schaublin 13 is a very nice machine, i worked on it when I was young. Very stable, much better than the Brigeport, yet les adaptive for special needs. Congrats, clean it, maintain it, enjoy it.
You just became my favorite RU-vid american machinist !! I learned machining on a Schaublin 53, those mills a the greatest mill out there !! Greetings from Switzerland !!
Wow, I'm just a novice but that looks like a dream tool. Hopefully you can find more accessories, I'd love to see how useful the horizontal mill function can be.
Hi mate. I think I can hear whimpering from someone in Germany ( Stefan ) that would have loved to own something like that very nice machine. Congratulations on a very nice but exotic machine. I think any parts for it you will have to make yourself though.
+Marcel Timmers Yeah I've been looking for a high speed head but seem to be scarce as hen's teeth. Actually found a few hen's teeth, but no high speed head.
Man, I wish I could learn all about milling. Other than watching videos like yours, I have no idea where to even start. I recently started re-building a Jeep frame up. Therefore, I learned to weld and other metal fabrication skills. However, milling would be an awesome additional skill to learn.
Just discovered your channel, have watched over an hour's worth of videos nonstop, subscribed and gotten a friend to subscribe. Great content, fantastic sense of humor, 10/10. Keep up the good work.
Never underestimate the Schaublin tools, their finish and craftsmanship are second to none. Just wait until you find a Schaublin lathe. I would kill for one of those.
Yep those little sockets are for lamps , and that speed control makes me think it's got a P.I.V gearbox in there it's a chain driven version of an automotive CVT transmission using two sets cones to give Positively lnfinite Variable speed control
Schaublin is the producer of the finest lathes and milling machines in the world. Their machines aren't the biggest or the sturdiest, but the most sophisticated. And being from Switzerland it can be pronounced in French or German. In Europe it is commonly pronounced in French. I used to own a Schaublin lathe that had variable speed setting. The funny thing was that it worked with two steel wheels that ran between a sort of rounded off diabolo. Funny contraption. Heideman is also a class product. Hope you get it up and running again. And since this film was from March 2016 I guess you have. I only just stumbled upon it, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Keep cooking!
I'm not sure if you take requests, but I was wondering if you'd ever considered making a video about what to look for when shopping for a used mill or lathe?
What do you mean? I´d look for names like Deckel or Schaublin and then have a look how you feel about it. Even small grooves in ways are usually an indicator they didn´t oil stuff properly so leave it if you don´t wanna rebuild the whole machine. If you find one that was stored for some time, see if it was coated in anti rust like the one tony bought as when it was last run. Usually the ones with famous names are more exspensive but also more reliable in terms of build quality and how they resist their circumstances.
Actually, that information alone was awesome! I've been researching this for a while, and learned that you should inspect the ways to ensure that they still have some "fish scales" visible to demonstrate that they have not been worn out, but I didn't know about the small groves. I'm in the US, so used Bridgeport mills are probably the most common. I keep bouncing between getting a very small import mill to begin learning on, or saving up for a used Bridgeport. I can see pros and cons to both. Machining is something I've wanted to get into for most of my life and I just keep talking myself out of one option or the other. Thanks for your input! I really appreciate it!
Just an update, I ended up getting a Deckel FP-1. It's a newer one with the ISO 40 spindle. It came with a large cabinet of accessories. Actually I think it may be every FP-1 accessory they made. It's the last entry on the Euro Mill Registry on PM with photos if you're interested.
Hey thanks Old Tony! :) Just so you know this new habit is all your fault and my wife wants to have a word with you... In all seriousness, thanks for all the videos. I've always wanted to get into this stuff, and you gave me the kick in the pants I needed to get to it.
TOT, I program and run a 2018 mazak 815/120 mill , a 2016 mazak qt-350MY lathe everyday and I'm so jelly belly right over this machine. Side note: Wife is just goes over the moon when I watch one of your videos a 2nd time. Thanks for reading.
I used to run an Deckel FP4 for toolroom work. Loved that machine. The only problem was ducking the chips flying off of the machine :-) I remember burying a 2" facemill 1/2" deep full width in some 4140 and didn't even slow down. Would definitely be on my wish list for a shop' James
+James Crombie I notice i do have a lot more cleanup to do with this thing than with the Bridgeport.. she really throws those chips! Must look into some chip guards. Thanks for watching James.
Nice! Just bought a Colchester Student mk2. Wouldn't say that knowing This Old Tony has one in his garage didn't influence my decision to buy it....but it is a really nice machine and I am looking forward to some adventures with it.
Ok, that rpm wheel is just...wow. That's clearly done for sass. There's no other reason other than to say "look, this is our product, and it does this to look cool". Of course, i'm talking from my behind, there might be a perfectly reasonable reason for it, but that's how it looks to me.
Oh and that grime? I think it might be some kind of steamed oil by-product. I bought a mill a couple of years ago that had been coated in the stuff since the previous owner had a kitchen nearby its final resting place. It looked like crap and that won me a price drop, but a little bit of TLC and the thing looks almost new now, makes my other machinery look like trash pandas.
Yes, it's a kind of rescue project and so worth to keep them alive, seeing what you're able to do with it if you know how to. Plus they're looking so f***ing cool with all those dials, cranks, levers etc. 😎
I learned how to mill on one of these.. in switzerland we call them "Shaoblin Dreizehn" if you want to pronounce it right! They also make awesome lathes
While there's nothing inherently wrong with a Bridgeport or clone, (I even own a Tai. copy) they are a pretty flexible mechanically to obtain the tilt and nod feature on the head. No one could ever think of them as a real hogging machine. Maybe for maximum metal removal rates the much bigger K & T's, Cincinnati's,etc were the best ever built for large manual mills. But both the Swiss and Germans sure had some great designs for there tool room mills that were much more rigid than our BP's. Very hard to beat some of the features they built into there mills. Even the tooling was just as well designed and built. It looks like you scored an awesome mill that's had very little wear put on it. And got very lucky a little tlc fixed those power feed issues. I'm more than a bit envious Tony. Since I believe your located in Europe, it's not impossible there isn't at least a couple of those Schaublin 13 outboard end supports sitting on a few shelves and gathering dust from machines that were scrapped out. The price would probably be much cheaper than trying to find something that rare over here in N.A. Maybe with some luck your video might jog someone's memory.
Nice one. I was tossing up between a Schaublin 13 and a Deckel FP1. I went with the FP1 even though it was with a MT4 taper because it had a quill. I do a lot of drilling and despite having a nice drill press, wanted that feature. I have a Schaublin 135 lathe so I was jonesing for a 13 : )
This Old Tony LOL, nice. Anyway mate, I've been enjoying the channel. As a filthy Australian living in Norway I understand the attraction to European iron. Scandinavians have a huge selection of wonderful machine tools and I've been stocking up since moving here, much the same as yourself.
That fancy Rohm is a spitting image of my little Wilton mmv/sp-50, only twice the size and I don't have a multi position fixed jaw but everything else...
Awe, that's to bad Tony, having to settle for a Schaublin 13 import. 🙁 I'm sure with some good old fashioned ingenuity you will be able to get some decent results 🙄 she really is a beautiful and well made machine. Nice to see her go to someone who will treat her well and feed her a steady supply of steel to eat.
Schaublin: in standard German the „Sch“ is an Sh in English. the „au“ ryhmes with Ciao in Italian or Chow in English. The „blin“ ryhmes with Spleen in English. if you want to really show off, „13“ is dreizehn in German. Dry (roll that R please) Tsain. Now try this: Katzenohrpostleitzahlumstellungsproblematik
I see "Ca Lem" refurbished your Shaublin 13. You must have used a really good filter in your videos - that mill looked rough by the time it got to SE Asia
Recently started watching your vids and I have to say that you're one of the most interesting machining channels I've come across. It's great to see folks get so pumped about the kind of stuff I get pumped about. It was definitely a bonus when I was wondering if you had anything in common with AvE and you ended up reading instructions for a vice where you adlibbed "see, it says right there to keep your dick out of the vice." I lost it. Much respect.
Yes that's little old me. I am just learning this You Tube posting, it takes a lot of time and equipment I do not have. What I have is a lot to put on. I only post some what I have not seen in the last 2 years. I am 90 but I have projects for another 100 years Old Bob
Love the vise, it is a Röhm RV 100 - this is the link to the manual, unfortunately only in German: us.roehm.biz/fileadmin/products/media/en/RV_100.pdf, these are hard to get....
I came across this a couple days ago when I was researching machine tapers. Apparently ISO30 taper is the same as NMTB 30 with metric drawbar threads. Just in case you find that useful. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_taper#NMTB_taper_family Thanks, John
Recently I was very lucky and just drove 20 min. to buy a MAHO MH600 in good shape for just EUR 1.500. I tidied it up from top to toe and babied it all over with new oil. The table is able to tilt in three directions and I have also fitted a DRO, so it's really versatile. These machines are just perfect for small precision work. They are real masterpieces from that era and I'm so proud to own one :-D
I believe you are the first person to express that opinion that I have seen. I have been looking for Deckels and Schaublins and in my "journey" over the internet I came across a generalized opinion that seemed to hint Deckel > Schaublin.
@@BrianFyhnPetersen That is an awesome deal. Congrats! If it moves, you're in the game. It is a shame to see machine tools at scrap yards that are solid hunks of rust.
Ooooh, you lucky so-and-so. Next week we're gonna find out that you've traded an old lawnmower and $27 to your neighbor for the Hardinge HLV-H he's had rotting away in his basement...
Just think. Such a machine tool could be sitting, unknown, only a few miles from any one of us, and available for "pennies". The odds are "lottery like", but still. Everyone wants money but not as many want a machine tool.
@@jlucasound You are right. Lately I've been looking in abandoned industrial buildings around my area to find a lathe and then contact whoever owned that place to arrange a deal. And in just a couple of weeks, found many. Unfortunately most are in such a bad shape they can't even be restored, or at least I can't. I've seen some pretty nasty ways, 10 grit sandpaper is smoother than that. And some are just too large (there's a 14 meter, one piece lathe from a textile company that shut down back in the 90s)
R4M I am wolensky9000 at gmail dot com I'd be interested in hearing more about these lathes you saw. If nothing else they can be scavenged for useful parts. let me know tyv m
