New Toyota GR 86 vs Honda S2000 Drag Race! Old School vs New School...who's faster?

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Note: The Honda S2000 is completely stock, and was fitted with brand new tyres before the race. It's an awesome question, and it turns out the answer is just as awesome. Luckily we have an S2000 in the wider Cars.co.za car collection, and when the new Toyota GR 86 came along, we thought we just had to pull off this race. And we are delighted to share it with you...here we go!
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03:14 First Race
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@domo5584 Год назад

S2000 still continues to prove that it’s been the real deal for over 20yrs, good stuff Honda!

@19hundoc47 Год назад

Because it beat the cheapest and lowest powered sports coupe available today?

@P4NC4K35 Год назад

@@19hundoc47 Because it beat a similarly priced vehicle with a larger engine (2.0L vs. 2.4L) marketed towards the same customer base that came out 24 years later, and you can't even blame emissions regs. How does your 24 year old computer compare to today? How about a 24 year old f-150 compared to today? Because the ap1 s2000 went on sale in 1999; that's why it's impressive.

@19hundoc47 Год назад

@@P4NC4K35 lol not even close dude. The s2k was 33k new back in 99? That’s 60k in todays dollars. So now compare the s2k to a 3.0 Supra and there’s your fair dollar to dollar fight. 33k today for an 86 was 20k back in 1999. So explain to me again how the s2k beating an 86 is impressive lol

@med3694 Год назад

@@19hundoc47 S2k is around 20 euro where i live sometimes 15 k lol

@Jaidenem1 Год назад

@@19hundoc47s2000 here are around 35-40k Cad. New GT86s are 45-50k Cad… go find me a 33k gt86 in todays market please. There’s something called msrp and the actual mark up cost.

@ashleygardiner6231 Год назад

Extremely impressed how the S2000 still holds up today.

@sdlausen1 Год назад

Well, the s2000 was in the Boxter, BMW Z3 category of sports cars when released in 2000, not entry level like a Miata for example. The GR86 is the entry level sports car of today that finally caught up to the mid segment sports cars from 20 years ago.

@30hours51 Год назад

yea no fucking shit it was competing with the porsche boxsters,

@TheBb6prelude Год назад

@@30hours51 Porsche boxster shouldn't be held as a reference. Even the 200 HP front wheel drive Integra beats the boxster around a track. It was a terrible car.

@gigi9467 Год назад

Keep in mind the s2k was a 60-65k car in todays equivalence..

@JacesOwnWorld Год назад

It's racing the second slowest sports car in today's market. It's not that impressive...

@azharcassim2795 Год назад

This was probably the best drag race I've seen in two decades... WoW... what a finish...

@Carscoza Год назад

We're so glad to hear this. Thanks for watching

@manworksgarage Год назад

Look up gr86 vs mk4 supra

@arachniawebz6176 Год назад

Facts!

@SME5724 2 месяца назад

lol

@allyance8846 Год назад

S2000 is such a gem of a car. The F20C is an engineering masterpiece too. Great races, especially the last one.

@repingers9777 3 дня назад

v8 guys will still ignore all the mechanical power and engineering even though many non turbo honda motors even ones found in civic si's and type r's are more power dense than a nascar let alone most American sports cars. dohc vtec engines are high performance engines it doesn't matter if they are small so when people scoff at me needing premium in my honda even when it says on the dash and gas cap to use premium only I cant help but look down on them when they look down on me lol.

@lionelmitchell7967 Год назад

I rode in a S2000 a decade and a half ago once and was hooked from the start. Still an incredible machine regardless of age. I love it and still want one eventually. Amazing video Ciro and Ash!!

@jonasbaine3538 Год назад

GR86 with 4 seats and trunk is a winner to me. More useable/practical. Lived with various mr2s over the years. Having a sportscar that can do more than just weekend fun is great.

@P4NC4K35 Год назад

I packed a bunch of luggage and went on a 4000+ mile road trip in my s2000. Just don't pack a hard shell suitcase for the airport and you'll be able to do 90% of the daily stuff you could with a civic.

@nycyabber7103 Год назад

Honestly, the two don't even compare to me. The GR86 is somewhat practical but the driving experience of the S2k completely outshines the GR86 in every way IMO.

@alexc7864 6 месяцев назад

@@nycyabber7103outshines is a stretch. Gr86 is honestly a future classic. If nostalgia isn't a factor, I don't really see why you'd pick an s2k over a brand new gr86.

@nycyabber7103 6 месяцев назад

@@alexc7864 Idk I was shopping for a new GR86 and ended up with a S2k. Wasn't even shopping for an S2k but once I drove it compared to all the GR86s I test drove, I wanted nothing else. It was that much better to me.

@BlitzkriegRap Год назад

This is one of the most amazing drag races I've seen!! And it is between two simple 200HP cars!! Not some supercars!

@fhowland Год назад

20 years old and the Honda still more than holds its own! I love my S2000!

@philspaghet Год назад

As a S2000 owner, I smiled when I saw that launch, that's how you properly launch a S2000! Keep the RPM up at all cost to keep that power coming!

@adamnay7730 6 месяцев назад

Yep, had to launch my AP1's at like 8500rpms to make sure you landed above 6k rpms for vtec. Otherwise you bog or land out of vtec= 1st race.

@lawrencesithole2953 Год назад

One of the best Japanese race , S2000 still keeping up with new school after 20 years is wonderful

@nicolasrosa37 Год назад

I wouldn't say that the twins are new school

@Rob165x Год назад

@@nicolasrosa37 I would say that, the new 2.4 is over a second faster to 60mph and does 215hp/170lb. to the wheels, gen1 can't compete without force induction. The numbers they gave (6.4s is too high, it's more like 5.8s in a drag, on the manual anyways)

@nielclaassens7673 Год назад

My dad has a red S2000 exactly like that one. He bought it new in 2009, one of the last to be imported before production ended. I have driven it lots over the years and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. You don’t get cars like the S2000 anymore which is sad because it is such a simple machine - great chassis and handling, NA engine, short shift gearbox, relatively low weight. It is a driver’s car and it wants to be driven. It is an irreplaceable car in my opinion.

@rhett7716 Год назад

you dont get cars like that anymore ?? how about the car it was racing or mazda mx5 ??

@thestranger1164 Год назад

@@rhett7716 nothing wrong with an mx5 but nothing beats an ol reliable coupe from honda. Especially the 2.4 it had at the time.

@P4NC4K35 Год назад

the 09 will fetch a high price if your dad decides to sell it. Problem is, any replacement is a downgrade!

@nine-nine 3 месяца назад

04-05 is the best years, it was before they switched to electronic throttle

@DiveshRSA Год назад

At least Toyota is still making sports cars we can buy today.

@CrimsonOrguss Год назад

Also the fact that we have it in SA.

@rainmaster2936 Год назад

100 percent. People complain Abt brz and GR but we are lucky to have Toyota make these amazing handling cars at affordable price..

@chevyss934 Год назад

Toyota isnt doing anything but rebadging cars lets be clear lmao toyota has lost its MOJO

@CrimsonOrguss Год назад

@@chevyss934 oh ok , well I really enjoy the GR86 and thoroughly glad I got a new one. I’m glad that Toyota partnered with Suburu with engineering the car they designed.

@chevyss934 Год назад

@@CrimsonOrguss toyota didn't do ntn but slapped a badge on the car and changed cosmetics on the outside lol

@ash3804 Год назад

we need more showdowns like this old school vs new school

@antslim168 Год назад

F20C, greatest NA 2.0 L engine of all time. Period.

@geraldhector9743 Год назад

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.

@marlondavids5087 Год назад

🤣🤣

@van_der_lindeDA Год назад

Getting old now

@Bbc418 Год назад

Get a life

@sharkparty1027 Год назад

Before race: This fool is running a Honda 2000. I'll win. Then me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It's all good. After race: NO! S#!T! OH, GOD!

@andydhillon1977 Год назад

A couple of SR20s will pull a premium right before Race Wars!

@nickparsons5369 Год назад

20 years older and 20% down on displacement, still wins. Mega.

@alstound Год назад

It was down to the driver, but how it held up after roughly two decades is remarkable.

@30hours51 Год назад

bc it was built to compete with porsches, the gr86 is made to compete with the mx5.......

@tracewaybos Год назад

@@30hours51 Wrong... The S2000 was built to celebrate Honda's 50th anniversary, not to compete with porsche... Honda started the design and prototyping in 1995 almost 2 years before the boxster came out. They wanted a modern version of their S800 roadster from the 60's.

@TheBb6prelude Год назад

@@tracewaybos I seen the prototype. It looks pretty badass.

@tonycruise Год назад

and it also is way less practical and doesnt have back seats

@dhirennaidoo1 Год назад

I'm really happy to see the S2000 punching hard but for pete's sake, this video is going to keep the second hand values high 😂 Some of us are trying to live out our 90's fantasies here!

@tasleempathan9301 Год назад

Min 400k for one with low km like this one.

@donaldmokgale3123 Год назад

LMFAO!

@kushlord1989 Год назад

Glad I got my ap1 even tho it's broken right now hahaha

@Rob165x Год назад

@@kushlord1989 I think the GR will take an AP1, but damn for a car 20 years old with less torque and 0.4L less that is impressive. With a turbo I would bet the Honda has the advantage.

@kushlord1989 Год назад

@R Camacho yea . Not with me driving tho lol

@adjrasta9365 Год назад

That was so good to watch, 2 great cars & 2 great guys having fun

@nboy7 Год назад

Ash is great at launching manual cars, always impressed how he is able to do it even with FWD cars.

@zinny999 Год назад

He learned from the first launch to let the first gear rung out much later in the revs. Giving the 2nd gear a good run. Otherwise it would have boughs down.

@brianwkunklecih7724 Год назад

@nboy7, not sure if you know, neither of these 2 cars is fwd.

@cartere9981 Год назад

@@brianwkunklecih7724 he didn’t say they were😂

@Tiger-gs6xm Год назад

Driver skill is huge for the performance of a S2000. S2000 Driver did extremely well for his first time behind the wheel.

@Norrr3 10 месяцев назад

Facts! I agree

@adamnay7730 6 месяцев назад

Right! He went gentle the first time and then realized he had to launch it high in the rev band.

@tianoyt7005 Год назад

THAT 3RD RACE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH WAS AWESOME!!!!! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO

@KuyaOly Год назад

That was exciting!!! Good driving guys!

@qazdrivingexperience1205 Год назад

Really-really awesome drag race, was really amazed with the Honda S2000 VTEC !

@michaelpascual3581 Год назад

Great video! I freaking stood up from my chair at the last race cuz it was so close!

@Carscoza Год назад

This is so great to hear! Thanks for watching

@NuckinFutzCrust Год назад

Seriously, best race I've seen on RU-vid 👏👏👏

@Carscoza Год назад

This is so great to hear, thank you!

@justinkruger8787 Год назад

Love races like this! It does not need to be super fast but it is fun.

@samsung40_media87 Год назад

that s2k is gorgeous

@omairsh8 Год назад

And has a beautiful sounding in-line 4 engine!

@sabathaaphane6624 Год назад

One of the best I have seen. Really engages the viewer!

@Carscoza Год назад

This is great to hear, thanks for watching :)

@S2k_GRsti Год назад

This was so much fun to watch!

@pinkipipe Год назад

I have driven too many cars in my life , but it is the S2000 deserve my admiration

@michaelprinsloo7347 Год назад

The S2000 reminds me why I'm a Honda fan 🏁🏁🏁

@tonycruise Год назад

and the gr86 reminds me why i always pick toyota over honda =)

@notsure3535 Год назад

Honda makes the best 4 bangers combined with the best gear boxes.

@tonycruise Год назад

@@notsure3535 they make fast engines but not as reliable as Toyota

@notsure3535 Год назад

@Tony Cruise Skate Ministry this is not true. I do believe the current line up of toyotas are better. But honda has a nice line up of 4 cylinders that are very potent and reliable. Toyota are just as good as far as reliability but Hondas are faster.

@christophecamus3295 Год назад

Great drag race 🏁 thanks

@thestig4408 Год назад

Great race guys. Please show the times at the end of a drag race. Thanks.. Keep these type of races coming.

@ashleygovender815 Год назад

The most impressive thing is the Honda resale value.

@afterburn2600 Год назад

I owned an S2000 for 12 glorious years. I also owned a BRZ for 1 year. Thanks for this awesome side-by-side. I'm impressed how the newer gen GR 86 kept up as well as it did. The older gen I owned definitely felt slow compared to my S2000. I was rooting for the Honda to win, and I'm glad it eked out victory, however close.

@BensCoffeeRants Год назад

Now take em on a track or autocross course! I sat in an S2000 for Autocross and I thought I remember people saying it didn't have that much power (or maybe torque) but it impressed me, seemed pretty powerful and handled awesomely.

@nebsmncube1796 Год назад

Oww yesss bring back them Drag races!!!!😁

@apolloandratti7922 Год назад

S2000 is at a whole different level: comes with a true double wishbone suspension, a bespoke engine, one of the best gear boxes in the world at any price and exceptional build quality. 0-60 or 1/4 times was never a priority for the s2000, but it’s interesting to see how it measures up against the 86.

@masrali4696 Год назад

The gearboxes were only good for a few quick changes before they started grinding and crunching.

@patchouli9 Год назад

The S2k was always meant to be a special car. The twins were meant for ordinary folks who wanted a cheap daily.

@darkknight097 Год назад

@Masr ali my 05 AP2 still shifts like butter. Maybe you should learn to change gears better

@binskee677 Год назад

@@darkknight097 mine too, works perfectly still! After 20 years, i changed the urea grease (that Honda fat stuff) and the plastic stuff just as a precaution.

@yawnyle Год назад

@@masrali4696 My 00 S2000 has never grinded gears. My NSX on the other hand will grind second when cold.

@LCORO1026 Год назад

Both great cars! What I'm impressed more is that drone keeping up with them. 🧐

@thatracinglife Год назад

Well done Ash! funny to see you pop up on my feed. Lol. Hope you're doing well!

@markoconnor959 Год назад

S2000 such a special car. Needs a super charger to take it to 250kw. Then she screams and flies!

@nickjp2287 Год назад

That rainbow like RPM gauge is amazing !!! I still remember my 1st ride in my buddy's S2K DAMN it was so bad ass, 9000 RPM Redline is unheard of these days in a stock production vehicle & RWD 4 banger as well

@ashilr8 Год назад

That s2000 is so beautiful 😍, really impressive 👏🏾

@EVPulse Год назад

Bought an S2000 almost, gosh, 20 years ago now and this video brought back so many good memories.

@sheldzeeking640 Год назад

Drag races. This is what I live for 😍❤️

@arkashrampadarath9118 Год назад

Closest drag race by far ! Awesome 👌

@lushengovender752 Год назад

The honda driver never let's us down...well done ash

@MelvinChallens Год назад

What an amazing drag race. These are both phenomenal cars. Good entertainment guys 👏

@Carscoza Год назад

Thank you so much, we're so glad you enjoyed it

@Carscoza Год назад

Thanks so much! Thanks for watching

@niikon Год назад

Hats off to you Mr. Ash, very well driven!

@shannonmcatee9610 Год назад

Great races

@S2K2121 9 месяцев назад

I put 120k miles on an AP1 and sold it for more than I bought it 12 years ago. Such a fun car. I just bought a GR86 that should be delivered in a few days, I just hope it's as fun as the S2k was.

@boujeful 3 месяца назад

hope you’re enjoying it!! just got mine it’s a blast!

@mpower320i Год назад

This was awesome💯🔥

@massimonegrini750 Год назад

S2000 is a beast! 20 years and still a mechanical marvel.

@ghatiem Год назад

Guys this was absolutely and truly amazing... I loved every second of it... That S2000 is a great machine.

@Carscoza Год назад

We're so glad to hear this, thank you for watching

@CreepinCreeper145 Год назад

3:43 What a spectacular drone shot!

@ebw16256 Год назад

Man loved those races.

@GSTRification Год назад

Look at the how low the belt line in s2k is compared to gr86. They are both one of better if not best designed front engine/rear wheel drive cars of their time but my god the s2000 has that classic old school British roadster proportion, long dash to axle short front over hang, low belt line classic E type. Due to high belt line GR86 looks more modern but proportional it looks flaw against the s2000

@Neevarshan_Naicker Год назад

This gave me goosebumps 🥴. Ciro, if you think this GR86 is fun, I can't wait for you guys to test out the new GR Supra Manual when that launches. That is my dream. I know I've been telling you guys this for quite a few times but please do a video review of it when the car launches and comes for test. It will honestly make my heart happy. Absolutely enjoyed this video and Hannes's S2000 is a monster 👻 👽

@binskee677 Год назад

sad to tell you that you will be dissapointed by the manual GR Surpa, it's a fat Grand Tourer and not a fun sportscar like the 86.

@kamargee9680 Год назад

By the end I didnt care who won. I thought it was a perfect race. The S2000 is THAT car. It was way ahead of it's time and still competes well against modern cars with similar power and weight. The GR is no joke either. That 2.4 boxer has given it the power it has always needed with less of the toque dip (it's still there but not as big) and increase of toque to now make it go. Excellent video

@BrianAndersonTT Год назад

Great news either way. The legend is worthy of the title, and we can still buy that performance today.

@Macedonia270 Год назад

I was rooting for the S 2000 all the way...

@andraeneal9134 Год назад

A really good race! S2000 still got it! I driven one years ago! It handles well, sounds good and luv the VTEC!

@sanzrampz475 Год назад

More drags like this please

@kylearends1953 Год назад

Honda - The power of dreams!

@bitcoinworld6288 Год назад

That was great, good action!

@zeed5764 Год назад

What a Great Race! I enjoyed this thoroughly! If only Toyota continued developing it's iconic engines like the 4A-GE which used to rev to 8000rpm back in the day, they would have produced something truly special by now...

@tiagofigueiredo2529 Год назад

Toyota's iconic 4AGE engine is a copy of the British Cosworth BDA engine that had been around for quite some time back then and there's all kinds of modifications possible made to them by now.

@nyikomaluleke7411 Год назад

Great content Wish you guys did a rolling race though 😅😅

@Bobbydean3 Год назад

Beautyful to see the S2000 its an fantastic car. Wow the hole Video was so cool👍🏻trank you guys!

@Carscoza Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Roobsrandomz Год назад

EPIC 3 races dudes!

@Spoolin_thriller2xx6 Год назад

I have an AP2 2005 S2000 and I absolutely love it. I think I’ll grab a second probably an AP1 down the road to build.

@charleschin2612 Год назад

These 2 are fairly evenly matched together regardless of the age difference in all a great video that s2000 Honda is in good shape too for its age 👍👍

@andrewdouglas1963 Год назад

S2000. One of the best sounding engines ever. Needs a k+n induction kit though.

@Showmetheevidence- Год назад

Next do a lap ;) Love the 86… had the old one and it’s an Incredible - totally underrated - car.

@slimjim77M Год назад

Epic battle. Never selling my S, but respect to all the Toyobaru operators out there.

@tonycruise Год назад

s2000s are great cars but for a 4 seater that cost less than the 2 seater and still do what it does is amazing

@InTheZone85 Год назад

@@tonycruise one car is 20 years newer. That is light years in terms of car technology

@tonycruise Год назад

@@InTheZone85 not when it comes to power. The s2000 engine and the bmw m3 engine are few engines to make more than 100 hp per cylinder. Brz makes 230 hp out of 2.4 cyl which is not bad and I get 25 mpg, while having a back seats and a full touch screen and luxuries that the s2000 doesn’t include

@binskee677 Год назад

@@tonycruise true, i have a s2000 and it would never go as the only car or even a daily, you also need a GR Yaris besides it for winter and shopping

@CobusDerrenberg Год назад

AWESOME AWESOME RACE ! WOW 👍✨✨✨✨✨!!!

@donaldmokgale3123 Год назад

that was AWESOME!!!! Very impressed by the S2K!

@squirrel36274 Год назад

That was such a excellent match! For the past 20 years I've loved and dreamed of owning a s2000 and never had another car even come close to my Infatuation of it. Until recently actually got to close to one of these gr86. I'm still on the edge of it but both really good cars. What a race tho.

@Carscoza Год назад

We're so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and commenting

@godfreymorris7488 Год назад

this was a great drag race , wouldn't mine seeing an 2005 C200 Merc vs Bmw 320i

@twistedsanity623 Год назад

I have an older 86 and I love it... I really like the new GR86 too... but I would still choose an s2k over both... that car is a gem

@jimlee4961 Год назад

What a race, great stuff. Glad to see the old girl still has it. Time to rethink selling mine 🤔

@TRDKhanbrothers Год назад

Awesome race there gents Really love the 3rd race Honda s2000 is still the number 1 fastest NA 2.0 motor on the market Well done gents

@johnss2k434 Год назад

Good race! closer than I expected. I figured the 86 would walk it from a dig.

@alanbarrese456 Год назад

Same here, that was my initial prediction, but the ol s2k has still got it! It's such a charming car.

@bsimon9554 Год назад

Good video....get them on the track next.

@jpmegane Год назад

This is the best drag race I have ever seen! Well done to the Honda!

@iJakku Год назад

I would like to know which of the two car has the faster cornering speed with equal size tires.

@FaeraOthronus Год назад

I owned a first gen BRZ and recently got the S2000 I bought 6 months ago back on the road. It still needs work before it will be back in it's prime but I'm loving it already

@3v4761 Год назад

Very impressive race....love that S2k....

@ec7945 Год назад

Biggest example of driver mod for the s2000 I remember the first time driving my s2000 vs 6 years of ownership 😜

@wassimahmedsista2478 Год назад

Great launch from both guys! Well done! Amazing drag race

@FelixDanGarasiAuto Год назад

wow very impressive clean run.

@DaveDVideoMaker Год назад

The GR86 is quite a good 2-seater Japanese sports car. However, I am quite sad this will not come to Romania. Consumers in Romania would be able to afford it if it were to be sold there; it’s just that Toyota doesn’t wanna sell it in that particular market.

@endlesstwisties Год назад

I expected S2000 to lose because is such a tricky car to launch . Especially for someone who doesn't drove it before. Still it has 6.0 as factory time for 0-100km/h. I did some 5.9 in my stock one few times but not every time. I have the proof on my channel.

@binskee677 Год назад

i thought the exact same (oh no not again a S2000 drag race, we know no one can launch it) but Ash did a great job, i bet he launched it from at leaste 6k. I did a 5.5 in my S but it's a bit lighter as stock and i'm not sure if the road was really flat.

@dalisomilner7064 Год назад

That little bit more RPM determined the outcome

@martindeoliveira5128 Год назад

Surprised both cars are equal weight, would have thought the S2K would be a fair bit lighter given lack of amenities. Would be interesting to see what the results would be with a base GR86 as the 18 inch option wheels effectively give the car taller gearing. Well done gents!

@akmc3313 Год назад

s2k is vert

@nighthawk0077 Год назад

@@akmc3313 con

@niikon Год назад

ible

@rtaylor0361 8 месяцев назад

No short cuts with respect to body stiffness so weight do to something worth having . Also in a accident , you have two rail road tracks sticking out the front not unibody so much better protection .

@alanarzate93 Год назад

That v- tec sound is crisp 👌

@nickweir3445 Год назад

While I agree the s2000 did phenomenally I just want to mention that the 09 s2000 was sold for AU70k new in Australia, whereas the gr86 and brz zd8 are selling for around 45-50k. It’s really great what Subaru and Toyota are doing at what is most likely a low profit compared to their other models 👍

@nickweir3445 Год назад

No idea about US but it is really good value here in Australia

@Manvswild11 Год назад

It’s great they’re making NA rear wheel drive cars but they don’t have the quality of the S2000, that’s why they were so expensive and you can still feel it now when you drive one, gearbox, engine and chassis are unreal!

@hangpilot1200 Год назад

Would love to see these two head-to-head on a track! They're matched on horsepower, but how about chassis and suspension tuning? Would love to have a S2000, but it's getting hard to find parts for them...

@Rob165x Год назад

I've seen one video where the GR beat it, I think it's because of the aero and stiffer chasis. The S2000 also needs to stay revved up and has poor aero which makes it more technical on track while the GR has torque around 3500rpm, but it's close enough to call it a tie.

@binskee677 Год назад

The engine from the S2000 has more potential but stock the 86 would beat it as it's much newer and the above mentioned reasons. Although the S2000 might be faster in the cornern due to the double wishbone suspension construction and it's one of the best OEM sportscar suspension i have driven, even compared to newer cars.

@P4NC4K35 Год назад

Not super hard to find parts. Also there's so much aftermarket support and you can swap in a type r engine if you have the $$$. So i'd say it's got a lot of life left.

@binskee677 Год назад

@@P4NC4K35 i hope so as i have one haha but would never put a type r engine in it, nothing lower than 9000rpm xD