Still in love with my 58 daytona would like to test ride the new one just to see how it feels compared to mine. The look of the new shape has grown on me.
The best way to break in an engine is to drive it as you will actually be driving it. But the most overlooked part of breaking in an engine is proper oil changes. Obviously you don't want to thrash on it. Also, proper deceleration is key, allowing the engine to decelerate on its own creates vacuum. Vacuum is just as important when it comes to piston ring sealing. I passed up an R1 because the owner said "Broke in properly, babied for 2k miles".
Sportrider magazine used to (probably still do) include really nice speed vs time graphs in some of their big comparisons from rest to beyond 1/4 mile. On a few of these graphs, I noticed that many superbikes and supersport bikes were well into the 2's to 60 mph. I don't remember if a Daytona was ever represented in any data, but if a ZX-6R can break into the 2's (I explicitly remember that one) then I'd think it's fair to say a Daytona can as well. Of course, it takes a fantastic run.
I am a bit confused here coz if you read the actual article the older version resulted quicker in some tasks which I cannot recall right now. So what's the truth? what goes faster..? the new 675? The old one ? or the new MV F3? :P
Does MCN has stake in Triumph? Always positive no complains whatsoever, I know MCN and Triumph are both British but a bit of objectivity would be really appreciated. Waiting on the new liter bikes test always special!
Caio Borges YES, I love the underseat exhaust. The excuse that the lower exhaust helps gives you a lower center of gravity is nit picking. I have an undertail exhaust with a small can and I don't notice any weight at all going into turns. Everyone loves the look of an undertail exhaust hands down.😎
Once I get my unrestricted license, I'll be upgrading my cbr250 with a 675. I know 1000cc is quicker but I'm just in love with these, but only the underseat exhaust.
I build and restore bikes, so I know what is is to enjoy keeping a bike going. I also enjoy getting a bike going again, but I don't do it so I can spend all my time maintaining it. I do it so I can enjoy riding it. Sport bikes are actually designed to be driven fast, so if that's not what you enjoy, then maybe you would be better suited on a cruiser. Most of the people riding them also prefer polishing and cleaning their bikes as apposed to riding them.
I started with a Ninja 650R which is comparable to your FZ6R, and now own a Street Triple R, which is not quite as fast as a Daytona. The difference between the two is vast. They aren't even in the same class. It is something you will have to experience yourself to know the difference. 20-30 HP on a motorcycle makes a world of difference.
You are actually right, in the racing world a new engine is run on the dyno for a few miles then considered done. A new engine thrashed early on produces more power than an engine that has been "run in" for hundreds or even thousands of miles. Manufacturers just covering there asses is all that is.
The 0-60 times (and the rest of the acceleration data) here are simply indicative of a sub-optimal run. In ideal conditions either of these bikes can likely break into the high 2's to 60 mph. I think it was Motorcyclist (or was it Cycle World?) that recorded a 10.9XX or 11.0XX sec 1/4 mile run on a Street Triple R a couple years ago, to give an idea.
Neeves complained a bit about the taller first gear and "squidgy" seat on the new Street Triple R. Ha. The thing is, in almost every review I've seen of either a Street Triple or a Daytona, there are effectively no complaints. MCN doesn't seem to be out of line with the rest of the motorcycle review industry in their assessments of Triumphs, for the two I mentioned anyway.
Actually he is right, every engine when built is ran for roughly 30 minutes and frequently redlined while it goes through diagnostics to check it meets quality levels.
For a race bike I agree. but that engine will get tuned and sorted every weekend. a road bike don,t carry a mechanic around with them. hence why you should look after your bike.
lol i drive/ride very fast in safe situations and also on track. but when i buy something new. i never thrash it until around the 600mile mark. after that its fair game. but i still really look after my stuff. i know loads of people who thrash theres straight outta the showroom. and 8/10 times they have had problems around the 1500 mile mark. i,ve never had a problem. from new. had problems when bought used though. but prob because they didn,t look after it from new
So 2012 daytona 0 to 60 is 3.9? Can someone reply to me about this? Because that's like half a second slower than what I thought it would be, than what I've found on other sites, forums.
You know, sometimes...something comes along that is nigh on perfect. With reviews like this, to put 'bad points' on these kinds of bikes is to walk along the fine line of subjectivity. Which a publication like MCN isn't really supposed to do. Subjective opinions are left to the customer/user of a bike. Simple as that.
it seemed like you were saying you always drive around slow, when you said that you never thrash it. I assumed by thrash you meant go fast. If you just meant during the break in, then I must have misunderstood.
...man, that speed is what an old triple from the factory set up in the 70s does. Check here amateur pilots riding R North triples in the Isle of Mann.
They did away with them because they didn't perform good enough and Triumph weren't happy with that. The new headlights is an improvement even if the projectors looks a bit better, i still prefer the new bike over the old one.
they redline it to make sure it wont explode similar to when a gun manufacturer makes a gun, they test fire the gun with ammunition that has twice the normal powder load. You should still break it in if you would like to have a reliable vehicle down the road.
MCN say it has 5 star value at £10,600 when all of the Japanese 600s are currently under £9000. If your going to pay that much you should get a liter bike!!!
no more undertail exhaust... no more two-piece headlights. the body is nice. i'm sure the power is too, but REALLY? they got rid of the two things that made everyone do a double take on the 675 in the first place.
he misspoke, and they didn't edit the review video to correct it. kind of a major mistake, considering almost 30,000 people have viewed the video. seems like Triumph would've got on their case about the misrepresentation.
you know bikes engines are "broken in" from the factory right? they hit redline before they are sold. and fyi its breaking in an engine, not running in. within the first 20 miles, a lot of the shavings are already into the oil. you really think babying it for 500 miles does anything? do you understand the process of breaking in an engine and its purpose?
i'm not here to argue with you. im telling you giving you information that you can easily search. if you want to be niave and believe what you think you know as facts you can do as you please. these bikes are meant to be revved. if you believe a hard break in will harm these bikes you are very ignorant
Rick rack... I thought the Same until I stood next to both of them! Then it became clear that the new one was waaaaay better looking!!! I bought the 2013 675r it looks amazing from every angle!
FZ6R specifications and tests rate it @ 3.8s. Also, the daytona will pass you with ease after that 60mph goes by. Keep in mind your FZ6R runs a 12.5+ quarter mile. Also, top speed IIRC is around 130mph. See ya later FZ6R.
Breaking in an engine? how do you do that then? by running it of course. hence= running it in. won,t break in sat on your garage floor will it. babying it for 500miles. is better for engine than thrashing it. my clio 200 cup made 209bhp and 168ft with 16000 miles on the clock. others there on same year plate with 25000miles only made 196bhp and another made 201bhp. a year later mine has 20.000 miles read out the same. others 193bhp and 198bhp. diffrence? mine not thrashed everywhere.
