Makes me smile at the success your channel has created. Looks like the good folks at Ford are paying attention to what the Morgan team is doing! Congrats!
I wanted a long bed, but found a 1999 6-3/4 foot bed super cab SD 4x4 with the V10 a few months ago that I couldn't pass up. But the 8 foot bed is a good thing to watch for in the future LOL....my 87 Ford Ranger has the 7 foot bed, the long beds are nice when you are hauling sheet goods and other building materials. My current 99 SD will serve me fine for now though until the ridiculous auto market cools off...way off.
I'm only a couple years older than you and the last pickup I bought was a dually. I've been pulling trailers for 35+yrs as a farmer with single rear wheel pickups, and I can say trailering is a completely different experience now. Big improvement.
I may be reading y’all wrong but… 10 to 1 odds you keep the Ford. I would be surprised if you haven’t already made up your minds! Marcus from Chesapeake, VA - at the moment 😉.
Agree. Just the way Mike talks about the Ford is a dead giveaway. Can’t wait to see if the Ford with the flatbed trailer can make the circle at the WV property. Couple of “tells”…. Mike wanted the 8’ bed- Ford. Mike loves the 45 gallon fuel tank- Ford. They both love the comfort of the Ford- seemingly better for them. Final selling point- 2K watts in the bed will most definitely come in handy at the cabin. I’ll bet a dollar they stay with the Ford.
Mike, we did the EXACT same thing. Unbelievable. I had ordered the 2022 F450 (rapid red btw) in Feb. 2022 and it looked like it was never going to be built. 6 months or so later, still no communication on production/scheduling. I finally gave up and happened to be driving by the Chevy lot and saw a nice black 3500 Chevy loaded up. I caught them as the exact right time, it was a customer order that was cancelled and the last day of the month. I ended up buying it $1k under invoice, which in summer of 2022 was unheard of. Loved the truck. 3 weeks later after now 7 months of communication blackout from Ford, I get an email that my F450 has actually been BUILT! What the hell? Ended up selling the Chevy for $500 more than I paid for it and then because of shipping I didn't get the F450 until Feb. 2023. Crazy story and here you are. I will say though, as nice as the Chevy was, honestly it couldn't ever compare to the F450. Ergonomics, power, shifting, braking, all superior in the F450. Congrats!
Not a Ford fan or a fan of dealerships/salesfolks/etc., but this guy is impressive! He comes across as an educational guy, not a salesweasel. I'd definitely spend time with him and talk to him if I needed a HD truck!
Finally those of us considering a HD truck will get a realistic review/comparison. Looking forward to seeing them in use. Both nice looking trucks and both pricey.
@@DWH072 Exactly .he would have ordered it the way he did if he wasn't going to keep it when it came. I mean 8 ft bed and the exact color of the Bronco and all the bells & whistles. I don't think Melissa's liking the shorter bed with the GMC is going to win out although it is alot easier to park and drive. And you don't have to watch the rear of the truck 30 feet behind you like a semi when turning the GMC.haha But Mike got it to heavy tow and the Ford will do that alittle better. I like the green paint on the GMC better. But will be harder to keep looking clean. The Ford is more of a TANK then the GMC. I'm hoping Mike takes to the same exessories who he took Eva's jeep and Mellisas Bronco to and have cool wheels and big tires on it and a heavy duty front bumper with winch . Not sure it really needs a lift it already sits pretty high. .
That superduty is beautiful, you don't appreciate how lucky you are in USA to have such great trucks. Here in N. Ireland our vehicles are tiny in comparison. Wishing you all health and happiness with whatever truck you decide to keep. What a dream predicament to be in 😊
World: “That confusing imperial system” America: “that confusing metric system. As a Canuck I was brought up with both, my height and weight I know in imperial, my speed and maps in metric, construction in imperial, my gas and liquids in metic. Cooking is a mix. My kids have no questions on metic but question everything imperial as illogical and confusing. My only retort is they figured out 12hrs x 2, 60 min and 60 seconds for time without complaint. Also told them I didn’t invent either system and to direct their complaints to the Queen (now King). Oh and nice truck! I have always favoured Ford trucks, family and friends mainly GMC. You did the sensible thing and got both! As always your videos are a pleasant and enjoyable break to my day. You’re the neighbour I wish I had. Thanks for doing what you do.👍
Listen, you really need to add a 500 gallon fiberglass tank to your place and you also need to find a bio diesel place to deliver your fuel that will bring your cost way down and you’ll always have fuel on your property. You are the best RU-vid channel out there you deserve everything you get. I love you guys. You are always great information better than anybody gives congratulations and God bless.
WoW now this Ford 6.7 baby is a beast ! 8 foot bed the only way to go ! These trucks Ford did Right! Congratulations Mike ! Horse's are one heck of a great decision Mike you only live once! A horse is way smarter than a dog! Man up Mike
I’m going to make a prediction that it will be the Ford. My reasoning is that the colour is fantastic, the interior is nicer than the GM, the 110 volt plug in the box(2000 watts is a lot) and finally the step in the tailgate. As I get older I find that I don’t move as well as I used to so the tailgate step would be a big plus. Have a great one.
@@TheMr9fingers you are right about that, however I think his daughter said that the GM didn’t have a step in the tailgate. It has footholds built into the bumper, which is better than nothing for sure. I should mention I have used both, on friends trucks, and in my opinion they are both adequate and seem robust enough for regular use. My own truck is a midsize pickup and does not have anything. Have a great day.
In 2017 I bought an F250 King Ranch Super Duty in Ruby Red. Looks like the same red as you have. I absolutely love it. It only has 25,000 miles on it and it’s paid for thank goodness. I’m looking to buy a dump trailer. I hope you keep the Ford, it’s sooooo nice.
You two making videos together is so much fun! I think from your past, I already know which one you are going keep. Once a Ford man, always a Ford man.
So in my years of being in landscaping and such, I've ran both Ford, GMC / Chevy. No question each truck will get it done. All it comes down to is personal preference. With my experience, the GMs were slight more friendly on maintenance and less repairs done (outside of regular maintenance items) than the Ford's. I personally like the 8ft bed so I would strongly lean to the Ford. Run both hard and going to WV will give them both the test. Just make a pro and con list for each one as well. Most say go with the 8ft bed, but that adds more to your turning radius, especially towing trailers. In the end, I really think it's going to the truck that you're more comfortable in and best fits your needs. Both will get the job done, but what fits more like glove for you? If your going to eventually get a dump.... keep the GMC because the dump will most likely have a bigger bed. If you need to use the electricity on the trucks...... Ford the way to go.
I'm curious too, especially long bed VS short bed. I'd think the long bed would have a better ride when loaded, but the short bed would have better traction and ride when unloaded.
I have an 01 F150; 305K miles, 60K of them are mine. I bought it with 244 thousand miles on it. Over the last 6 years, I have had $9100 in repair bills, and right now the truck is sort of like, everything has been rebuilt. It runs great! My cost per mile, using Mikes formula, was 45 cents. An old truck, well maintained ( even the seat) cheaper. And now should have 2 or three years significantly lower maintenance bills. I think of it as perpetual $200 monthly payments.
Beautiful Truck Mike, with the bigger fuel tank, 8' box and much more HP 500 and TQ 1200 lb ft, I would keep the ford. The Ford has the High Output 6.7 and the Ford has 2000 watts of power onboard and I like the Rapid Red,👍👍
How much shorter would the lifespan of the HO engine be compared to the standard output engine? Or is there really any difference? I'd think pushing more power out of the engine would have an impact on longevity?
Best accessory for a Ford truck is FORSCAN and a wired adaptor. Lets you change all of those annoying things you do not like. No more honking when locking the truck, or dinging when you get out and have the key fob in your pocket, etc.
I agree...Forscan is great, it has saved me a lot of money, and for I think like $12 a year you can get the full version that allows you to get into the security and safety features and do things like program keys, electronic modules, etc. Plus, the overall troubleshooting capability of Forscan is excellent too....I don't use it often, but its sure handy when you have problems.
Knowing you Mike, you'll buy a Ford dump truck. If it was up to me , I'd trade in the Bronco and keep both of the one tons for this reason . If Ford has a major recall you're stuck with two HD trucks that shouldn't be driven until fixed , ( pickup and dump truck ) , by keeping the GMC you could still pull a heavy load to West Virginia while the Fords are down for repairs . Crew cab short beds hang out the back of parking spaces , crew cab long beds , you might as well pull thru and take up two spots .
@@m9ovich785 yeah and most garages were built at 24 ft. deep , subtract the 7 inches you lose to the front and rear walls and you can't close the garage door .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 My Truck has never seen a Garage, Nor My Jeep.... I figured Vehicles were never designed to be Hidden in a Garage, Unless You have Parking Issues or in a Bad neighborhood. I live out in the Boonies, that leaves my 30x40 Shop Space free to use as needed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
That’s a beautiful truck, congratulations! It’s funny the older I get the more I like the idea of the ladder on the tailgate! And I absolutely love that sun roof. I’m not gonna lie, I’m a Ford guy so I’m partial to the super duty. I’ve owned about 15 vehicles and only one was not a Ford. God bless from north Florida 🇺🇸
That's a really nice truck my uncle bought a F-350 crew cab with the long bed and he referred to it as driving a school bus he loved the motor it had all the torque in the world it would pull anything it had one ton rear ends so he liked that a lot better but to drive it and find a place to park it was another thing and it wouldn't turn around you'd have to have a field to turn it.
The nice thing about both of those trucks, the cruise control will keep you distance from another a car, and I'll just put it on cruise control. Forget about the break in the gas. It'll start swimming down law when the car's in front of you start slowing down and everything else. You don't really need that on a highway drive. All you need to set cruise control on a highway drive in Go for it. Even in town package.
Hi Mike & Melissa, I have a 2019 F-250 I got in October of 19 from Tri-Star of Blairsville. It has a whopping 11,740 miles on it unlike your grocery getter. It’s been a great truck that I use to pull my Kubota L3240 to my property to mow every other week. Yes it only has 11,740 miles on it I guess my cost per mile is considerably higher than yours. Hope to get in touch with you sometime when your in WV.
Here’s some more numbers for you Mike. I just custom ordered a 23 Lariat F150 in May to replace my 2011 XLT. The 23 sticker was $75K but I paid 3% under invoice and got a $1k rebate so paid close to what you paid. $66k. I flew to Iowa and drove it back to NY. So far I love it. Good luck with your new truck.
Melissa! I just realized that you haven't "gone down the stairs" in an video for a loooooong time. You probably have a bunch of new viewers that have never seen you do that. Might have to bring that back sometime! ha. Hi Hunter!
I had a 2014 Silverado that I rarely drove for one reason or another. In 2021 it only had 36,000 miles on it. My son was driving it one day and he got rear ended. The insurance company decided to total it. I was really upset because it was so low mileage. I really didn't think I was going to get any equity out of it, but then the insurance company offered $36,670 in the settlement mostly because of the used car market caused by chip shortage and the pandemic. That truck cost $36,500 back in 2014, so I essentially drove the truck for 7 years and made $170 dollars. 😁
Both great looking trucks! I'm a life long Chevy truck guy but I really like your new Ford. Only concern is if it will eventually be the new "grocery getter" the 8 foot bed with full double doors will be a challange parking it. I'm curious what the sticker on it is and did the dealer give you a full (45 gallons) tank of fuel? Looking forward to each and every video you guys do.🙂
If you have to ask the price....lol. You can bet it should come with it's own address. Vehicle costs right now are just off into the stratosphere - really getting crazy. I think a maker could do _really_ well with a nice V8 truck with very old-school sensibilities, just modern engineering on the suspension, etc. They keep adding so much stuff that once you get past 5 years or so I can't even imagine the maintenance costs on the new stuff. 5 miles of wiring in every vehicle...lol. They don't even have _gauges_ now for Pete's sake. Sure are comfy though if you can afford to take the depreciation hit and get new every 3-4 years.
Rare opportunity where someone owns both and will be using them in practical applications. Look forward to your thoughts on these trucks in the coming months.
The Government Motors truck won't last long. You can already tell the Ford is superior in every way. The government motors truck has got to be the ugliest truck they have ever produced. Plus it has a useless shortbed. I bet the gm is gone quick.
My 2014 Tundra, bought new, has 168k on it and it looks almost new, drives like new and has never been in the shop! I don't think the title will leave my hands.
I've always loved the long bed , a short bed on a four door truck just looks odd to me. Awesome looking truck , and I'm so on board with your plan on the two trucks
I bought a 2004 Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71 back in January of 2004. I still have it today. I've had several cars that have gone and went in the mean time. Now I have a new Ram 2500 and an old Silverado.
We will see what the future brings, I’m not optimistic at all. I think car dealers right now are doing very well because so many have been ordered for so long they are catching up now that more are becoming available. I think that once things sort out it will slow way down. We will see
When it comes that time to crunch the numbers make sure to do some research into the breakdown and repair of each. I do delivery for a transmission parts company and see lots of heavy duty fords being repaired and fewer of the GM heavy duty line. Used to be a mechanic so that’s always something I keep in mind, maintenance and repair. Been thinking y’all should do a giveaway for your subscribers and call it “A day with the Morgan’s” just hanging out.
I've read lots of posts on this and I still don't really understand why. It seems more like personal preference, and whether you like the look or not, more than anything actually practical.
mike, hidden option on fords is the ability to lock out gears while towing. keep it in drive and hit the down shift button twice and it will drop out 10th gear. hit it again it will drop out 9th. etc. works great while towing in slow 55mph areas
Nice truck. You should look into Roll N Lock bed covers for both. Also, maybe you should look into a gooseneck 30K lbs. dump trailer. They make them in Tri-axle or dual wheel tandem axles type trailers. Therefore you wouldn't need a dedicated dump truck.
The gooseneck dump trailer would definitely be worth the purchase. I don't have a dump trailer at all, but given my current HD truck came with the bed rail system for a 5th wheel hitch, or gooseneck hitch, I'd definitely be open to a gooseneck dump trailer for sure...much better to backup in tight spaces.
When they get the dump truck, a gooseneck would be worthless. I prefer the way a gooseneck carries the weight, but the practical part says stay with bumper pull trailers.
@@haroldphipps3457 So would a 5th wheel LOL. A dump truck would most likely be pintle hitch, that is if they buy a real dump truck, and not just a pickup with a dump bed.
Nice truck. Would be hard decision deciding which to keep. Currently have pretty much the same gmc as you but have had fords and thinking about looking at ford again next time. Seats in my Gm cat not that comfortable
That eight foot bed on the ford will makes towing more interesting in turns and backing room to turn around. I don't think you will have an issue but it is something to remember when switching from GMC to the Ford.
Ordered a 2022 last year,f450 dually diesel lariat crew,wow crazy power,great ride for a big truck and pulls 18gs like its not even there!!!love the red
With the recent rash of Ford 6.7 diesel engines eating the Bosch CP-4 injector pump, unless the dealership and Ford are willing to replace the pump right NOW instead of waiting for the ticking time bomb, the Ford would be gone. The fix NOW, is a new Bosch CP-3 pump. Once the pump comes apart, it's the entire fuel system, if it doesn't also take the engine along with the pump. Check out Gentry and Sons channel on his 2023 F-250 injector pump going out with 10K on the clock. Taylor Ray on a bit higher mileage 6.7, the injector pump going out 600 miles from home while towing a trailer.
I have a 1994 F150 XLT, in-line 300 cu. in., 6 cylinder with 5 spd manual transmission (4 spd w/overdrive actually), I bought used in 1998 with 49K+, it now has ~198,000 miles. I have loved this truck and only stopped driving it due to my inability to work the clutch without great effort. I have extremely bad knees and lower back issues and can only drive this a very short distance before I’m in bad pain. Six months after I bought it, I went on vacation from Omaha, NE to PHX, AZ and averaged 17 mpg, checked mileage in town 17 mpg. After 22 years and several thousands of miles I drove to KC, MO to pick up a welder (about 600* lbs) and my mileage was 17 mpg. I’ve been trying to bring myself to sell this, but I just haven’t been able to - it’s got a lot of sentimental value, and, unfortunately, rust. I now drive an older (can’t afford newer) F150 Lariat 4x4, its been great so far.
I kind of went over this the other day. We make a living on RU-vid, in other words the videos on the trucks will cover any depreciation between now and when we trade one of them.
With the two trucks and the trailers and machinery you have, I can almost envision a "Morgan Convoy" on the way to West Virginia sometime soon. ;-) Blessings from pastor Ralph Yarn, Dartmouth, NS, Canada!
Hello!@@davids4754 Dartmouth NS is part of the Halifax Regional Municipality. I pastor the Dartmouth First Church of The Nazarene in the city near the Halifax Harbour. We have a little virtual service on RU-vid under my own name. Great to hear from someone in Dartmouth, Mass!
@ralphyarn1265 Dartmouth MA is a beautiful coastal town,one of the 1st to be settled in Southeastern MA in 1650. It is the 3rd largest town area wise in MA. Truly Gods country. I will check out your channel, God Bless you and yhe Boston Bruins!!lololol
We bought a 2005 Ford Excursion so we could haul the kids and a travel trailer. My wife was so scared and didn’t want something that big. Now she doesn’t want to get rid of it. We have a daughter in a wheelchair and my wife is afraid to give up the Excursion for a van with a lift. It has been our best vehicle yet.
Similar story here. Ordered a 23 Lariat the end of January. No emails from Ford. One call from dealer saying its in Ford protocol,the second that status change from 19 to 10 in June. July 17th called dealer, response was since i used X-Plan discount i was moved to end of line and my Lariat will not be built in 23. I would be moved to high priority for a 24 but no price lock or list of options until September. I had enough so I went GMC AT4 order. I will need to wait again, but didn’t have a good experience with my Ford dealer
We have 3 Superduty's . 2022 f250 my wife drives, 2022 f350 short bed diesel and 2019 F350 dually. I use the dually to haul equipment around with my gooseneck. a bunch of Kubota machines. and I even haul a D5 Cat or 650 deere dozer sometimes. Crazy how well it does hauling a Dozer. and it is still legal.
Very nice truck. Going to be hard choice between the two. I’d go with best resale trade in value probably the best way to go. Be good be safe keep making firewood.
I’d wait for the refresh on the super duty, but there are a few things i love compared to my ordered Chevy 2500. Closed glasses holder. Upfitter switches up top. Pro power onboard. Work station. Max recline and storage under the rear seat.
My last F350 was the 18. Loved it. I went to F-150. Great truck. Just got an expedition and wow. Yes they keep getting more expensive, but the comfort and features are amazing. I heard someone say that the Ford seats are more comfortable then the Escalade and I have to agree.
2 Diesel Superdutys, 1 Bronco, 1 Rubicon, 1 Excavator, 1 Track Loader, 2 Pole Barns, that Wood processing equipment .... your living the American Dream ... Congrats!!
You’ll love the 8 foot box. I made the mistake of buying a short box in the 90’s, never again. Especially pulling a gooseneck or 5th wheel. Which I did both over the years. After years of having fords and having engine issues, in 2018 I purchased a new chevy 3500. So far so good.
Great video, Mike. glad to see your Ford came in quicker than the bronco did. I can't wait to see what truck you decide to keep. I wouldn't base your decision on it, but I'd be interested to see you do a poll on what truck people think you should keep.
SD crew cab with 8’ bed is a BIG truck. I’m a Ford guy from the very first truck I had. 1964 F-100. All the fords I’ve had have never given me any trouble. Standard maintenance stuff. I’m now driving a 2022 F350 X-cab with 8’ bed. Rare truck.
Never say never! You've come a long way from your RU-vid begining with the MS261, the Husky Splitter and "I only need a half ton". Good for you and your family!
Really thought you getting that GMC was the way to go, but that Ford is very nice. You have a tough decision coming up. Probably would be best to let the Bronco go. Lol
I live in Texas, but used to live in New Castle PA. When I lived there I had a Nissan pickup that I offered for sale on ebay. The buyer had me meet him at the Pittsburgh airport to take possession of it. He came in from Mexico, too. Must be a pipeline from PA to Mexico. Ironic to hear your story.
That's a beautiful machine! Unfortunately, I foresee the Ford v. GMC feud on the horizon among the commenters. I know Mike and Melissa will have good reasons for whichever vehicle they choose to keep. The level of technology these days is amazing.
I honestly don't think it matters what you buy, they all make good trucks, a lot of it comes down to who gives you the better incentives and deals...and if you take care of it, it'll last a long time...every vehicle out there has its quirks, its how you deal with them that makes or breaks you....many people just ignore small problems until they're stranded somewhere and then its the vehicle's fault, rather than the driver's fault for ignoring the small warning signs prior to the major problem.
We sold our first new "family" vehicle we ever got, a 2003 Yukon XL... it had been trouble free for 195K miles... Toted us on many a camping trip loaded to the gills... we still see it in town: trashed, dirty, and being driven by some mentally ill individual (god bless him)... and we almost cry :-( I think you'll love the Super Duty. I have 2021 350 lariet loaded 6.7 and love it. (insignificant: but salesman never know their product: the big box under the seat isn't an amp: it's your pro power box, and the moon roof doesn't pop up and over, it comes down and under... LOL) Great color too: I have the Rapid Red.
Knowing your Past Life Experience , You'll certainly give a Good Evaluation of Both.. I'll be waiting for your Findings, my 3 Cents it will be a Tuff Call.. The Duramax isn't as Noisy as the Power Stroke.. Just Saying
Watching your vehicle adventures has been enjoyable. I’m wondering how much fun this would be if you guys suddenly get the bug to own a boat. You have all the towing capacity you would need.
Yea we just aren't a boat family, me or Melissa. I'm sure they are fun but i think the entire time on the water i would be like i should be doing this, or I could be doing that.
Wait! A woman that encourages her husband to purchase a new truck and she likes shooting guns?!?! Melissa, you are a true unicorn! Beautiful purchase, Mike & Melissa! I really love the idea of a head to head competition to see which truck is more desirable.
Good decision, you guys have the Bronco and you can use that as the grocery getter. I'd keep the GMC. The Duramax diesel with the Allison transmission is about as bulletproof of a power train one can get these days.
Love that you have the punch-button entry on the Ford. I had it on my Ford Freestar which I drove for 15 years. I now have a Chrysler Pacifica and it looks good sitting on the driveway. That's it. Don't love much about it and really miss my Freestar. Also HATE the fact that I don't have a CD player.....no matter what some pink-haired, wet-behind-the-ears at the dealer tells me. I cannot lock my purse in the car when I walk in parades for DAR AND women's slacks no longer come w/ pockets. No place to carry that dratted hand grenade they call a fob. Loved that punch-button entry...and my CD player.
