NEW TRX-925 0.01 Grain Scale from Creedmoor Sports

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If you’re a precision ammunition reloader, you know that every grain counts. Precise loads are critical to your safety, and accuracy on the range or on the hunt. In this video, we’ll perform an in depth overview on the all new Creedmoor TRX-925 precision reloading scale which is accurate to 0.01 grains!
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@Ocdoutdoors 2 года назад

Honestly that's a fair price for a lab scale.. I have placed many orders with creedmoor sports never had any issues. Think we could get your shirts with the UR logo on the front right chest and the big " I reload" on the back ? I'm not a fan of the big writing on the front.

@Greenjeans2020 2 года назад

When I had to do work in a metrology lab we picked up calibration weights with a tweezers. Nice scales!

@aceball8 2 года назад

Like the vids - better when viewed at 2X. 😜 Been a pleasure watching you grow our passion for this precision sport! Thanks. MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and the UR Crew from all of us at Shooters Den of GA

@PatriotPaulUSA 2 года назад

So true I love the 1.5- 2x speed feature!

@drewledbetter526 Год назад

I used the 1.75. There for, I learned this is way above my pay scale. (See what I did there) My mosin will never need this Thank you.

@juliusjames5577 2 года назад

Of all the 3 high end scales I’ve seen you test, this one seems to be the best value. I like that it comes with the check weights.

@ewetho 2 года назад

Flexing the big bottle of Varget we see

@mightyjoeyoung1390 2 года назад

I was gonna say, that 8 pound keg of Varget is pretty triggering. 🤣

@FClass 2 года назад

Couple of thoughts and comments to share. I have the A&D FX120i setup with v3 Autotrickler, that gives me 0.02grain accuracy with the speed of an auto powder thrower, I use this for high volume loading, due to the speed advantage it gives me. If I am doing small batches I use my Redding No2 beam scale, I have measured the accuracy of this against my FX120i and it is spot on to within the 0.02grn tolerance of that scale. My process is much the same as you have shown in this video, dump main charge and trickle up to required weight. Why would you want an expensive electronic scale to do a slow process that a good quality beam scale does just as well, for a lot less money ? On another note, I shoot Benchrest, 6mm PPC 100 yard. Most of the guys I shoot with use a high quality powder thrower, Harrel for example and do not bother to weigh each charge to the exact 0.001 of a grain. This tells you something, if that amount of accuracy really made a difference then these guys would be all over these high accuracy scales, they are not ! There are other more important thing to go after, such as batching your cases by H2O volume for example. Don’t get fooled into thinking some electronic has got to be better than what went before, it ain’t always so !

@PatriotPaulUSA 2 года назад

I wonder if their Harrel's powder throwers are that good, or, are they not worried about being a grain or 2 off on every other round they are loading? Hmmm I think you should take your beam scale over and check their loads off the Harrell and let us know. (just joking) Who knows, they may be spot on perfect, and those guys know it.

@FClass 2 года назад

Hi, thanks for the comment, I do have a Harrell and can confirm they are not perfect, measuring on the FX120i I found they were +- 0.01grain, so a range on 0.02grains, very good and it seems good enough for benchrest !

@bigseddo4036 2 года назад

You will find 0.01 difference won’t have that much impact at 100m

@DimaProk 2 года назад

@@bigseddo4036 Even 0.1gr difference in powder charge will make no difference at 100m distance.

@DimaProk 2 года назад

@@FClass I don't believe it!!! From the youtube videos I've seen it was a lot more spread than +/- 0.02gr. What kind of powder because that makes a big difference too.

@Corgitronics 2 года назад

I like the new scale, especially the RS-232 output, lots of things I could do with that. For the past 8 years or so, I have been using a GePro-250 with a resolution of 0.02 gn. It holds zero for months without recalibrating and isn't too sensitive to air movement. But, I'm always looking to increase precision!

@blacksand9805 Год назад

I'm using the Gempro too. The reason why it keeps the zero easily is because it ignores tiny weight variations. If you add few granules one by one it just ignores it. The solution to correct the load is to remove the cup from the scale before adding powder granules and weight it again. It adds a lot of time when reloading many cartridges.

@boydallen8059 3 месяца назад

The scale looks good. Thanks for your review. I will mention one thing that I have seen on lesser scales. They return to zero, but if you look at the negative reading that you get when you remove the pan, it can be significantly different. This is one area where scales' programming can produce inaccurate readings. The zeros look like nothing has changed, when in fact it has, in a way that will affect the weight displayed.

@MoxeeReloadingInstructor 2 года назад

The important question is: Will this scale tighten your groups? Please do a side by side test using this scale, a high quality beam scale and a similar quality E scale. Load some rounds of your favorite precision ammunition and rifle, then measure the group size. If there is a reduction in group size this new supper scale would be worth the $350 price. If there is no improvement, it's just an expensive toy.

@taylorbokshowan5713 2 года назад

Consistency is key. It may not shrink your groups consistently but it will minimize errors in charge weight which should give you more consistent group size and at the very least it should give you confidence that everything is as precise as you can be which confidence can be a huge factor for shooters

@spapi3880 2 года назад

I agree with you. I’d like to see if all the time, money, and effort is worth the improvement.

@PatriotPaulUSA 2 года назад

Too many open variables there to answer that. If you have everything else sorted out but your ES is high on your loads then your bullets will be at different elevations on a long range target. This would tighten your ES numbers up if your scale is mediocre. Your impacts would be much closer together in elevation. (If your FPS isn't consistent and all else was the same.) At 100 yds it may be small but at longer ranges it would be increased especially. This also shows the importance of checking your loads thru a chronograph!

@blacksand9805 Год назад

If you use a powder measure instead of the scale you can get pressure& velocity variation when air humidity changes.

@wesleyturner1979 2 года назад

I remember starting reloading with little yellow lee dipping cups. Now we’ve got to put on white gloves so our finger prints don’t throw off calibration? Have we gotten too far into the weeds?

@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 года назад

All about application. For 99% of reloaders, I agree with you. For precision shooting, a higher end scale removes one more variance. I personally bought a $300 laboratory balance because my cheap Hornady scale seemed to wander, and you can’t have that when you are reloading 25 acp and 32 acp where your grain variance in powder could be 0.2 grains minimum to maximum. I tested out some other mid grade scales (either friends or bought and returned), and the $300 balance was so much nicer, I couldn’t justify spending $50-$150 on something barely better than what I started out with. I’ve used the laboratory balance for two years and l wouldn’t go back. Being a bachelor that makes decent money has its perks, and one of them means $300 on a somewhat “luxury” reloading isn’t a big deal financially, others mileage would vary. I also have a beam scale for back up, it’s just a lot slower.

@wesleyturner1979 2 года назад

@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 I just got a rcbs link so we’ll see how that throws next time I load up some 300 wsm.

@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 года назад

@@wesleyturner1979 I heard those are pretty darn nice, hope it works well for you. Happy shooting 🇺🇸

@pappy1144 2 года назад

I enjoy your attention to detail. I have the RCBS Load Master 1500. Haven’t gotten into precision rifle yet. 1000 yard range isn’t available in the area in order to get that precise. Been reloading about 35 years I always learn something from you. Thank you so much for Sharing your knowledge.

@MichaelC-pn6dy 2 года назад

I am using a really cheap scale and I am looking for a new one. This scale exceeds my budget range. Thanks for the review.

@davidunderwood3605 2 года назад

Food for thought. If your not ( and you never should ) touch your calibration weights with your bare fingers then why, why would you continue to handle the powder pan? Your oils and salts start building up and adding to it's actual weight. The same as the platten. What's deposited on it stays and builds. Next good clean nitrile gloves are fine. White cotton or nylon gloves pickup and soak up oils and salts too and then eventually deposit materials. Nitrile gloves can be wiped with an alcohol wipe to clean. Wearing glove may not always be practical but I try always wearing them when reloading so if the ammunition is set back for a couple months or longer it doesn't get tarnished areas or green spots from salty sweat or oils. And when it's precision scales I use a set of spring loaded to close long set of tweezers (wide jaw) to pick up my powder pan. Yes I know this is Anil but when it's hot or warmer and your cutting down air currents for long precision loadings sessions these little do's pay off.

@googleboy7 2 года назад

Hello Gavin. I think you forgot to mention leveling the scale. But I assume your bench is level. I have been reloading for four years. I am a retired engineer. I was looking for another challanging hobby. My son suggested reloading. I remember thinking; How hard can that be? To my delight and my wife's chargrin I found that the rabbit hole is bottomless. So I dove in. ;-)) Thank so much for your great videos that have helped me along the way. I have three Hornady scales: a balance scale and two digital scales. I use the Autocharge to meter the powder loads and the other digital to check the first. I bought precision weights for calibration. As you noted, never touch the calibration weights with your bare hands. Thanks again and Merry Christmas. Shalom/gw

@MrJeronlewis 2 года назад

Man, you really do have OCD. I love it. No detail overlooked.

@jetthreat5000 2 года назад

It’s still a strain gauge if I’m correct. Not as good as magnetic force restoration like the FX120i

@TMS5100 2 года назад

yeah they have horrible drift and need constant recalibration. fx120i is the way to go for precision reloading.

@StasPlagov 2 года назад

Start building my own scale 0.01 grain accuracy based on arduino and load cell, works great ...for a bit then starts loosing calibration and need to recalibrate again, that's the problem with all load cell scales. It holds 0.1grain accuracy with no problem. Then I bought fx-120i and build combo powder measure and stepper motor trickler, similar to autotrickler. These new one is promising because it has serial port and can be used with other processor to control a trickler. I hope this is not load cell based scale.

@jetthreat5000 2 года назад

It’s a strain gauge.

@StasPlagov 2 года назад

@@jetthreat5000 disappointed, for these money I can get used fx-120i, or pay $200 more and get new one. The load cells and strain gauge are not good for the precession reloading. Unless they do some magic and scale holds zero and do not drift.

@dougmccune9307 Год назад

Going to give this one a try.

@georgegeorgiev2610 2 года назад

Great skill in putting it together, you are really good!

@jswnv7775 2 года назад

Very informative review, thanks. I currently use the RCBS ChargeMaster 1500 Combo, and it suits my current needs.

@blacksand9805 Год назад

With all my electronic scales, the main problem for an indoor usage is static electricity. Depending on the kind of clothes I'm wearing I can load with static electricity each time I'm moving affecting the scale measurement by up to 0.1 grain. The solution that i found is to use an antistatic wristband.

@4bigwheels09 Год назад

I use a anti-static spray and it works amazing. Try it out

@blacksand9805 Год назад

@@4bigwheels09Thank you but I dont want to spray myself or my precision scale 😅

@daanyaalvally3187 2 года назад

Looks good, thanks Gavin

@mattchilders3123 2 года назад

Great review Gavin. For Hunting ammo, I would be hard pressed to buy something like this without test results on paper.

@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo Год назад

Well, rather than cutting a hole in the shield I was just going to leave that side open, as well as the top off, shielding it on 3 sides. You need to be able to access the pan and the trickler on the scale anyway, and I’m not going to take off the shield each time. I have a Redding trickler and you should be able to have it sit directly on the scale, at least according to the product Q&A at Creedmoor. We’ll see!

@1clnsdime1 2 года назад

The problem is u can get a FX120i for 100 more. It's worth the 100 more.

@pa6552 2 года назад

Also - will Adam make this work with the Autotrickler... if not, it's another reason to just stay with the FX

@pa6552 2 года назад

And - think about it - those 3x F1 class weights are probably 1/3 of the price already...

@leveractiongypsy1848 2 года назад

While I still use digital scales (Frankford Arsenal and the other popular one) due to speed and ease of use, I recently bought a vintage Lyman/Ohaus D5 beam scale and an Ohaus calibration weight set that includes grain weights.I dont trust digital scales on their own anymore unless I have a known to be good calibration weight which is why I also went with Ohaus as the pretty much made all the beam scales and invented the agate bearing which is why they are so accurate. My issue with digital scales is they act up from time to time whether its the battery or who knows, so I keep the 5 grain check weight and am constantly testing the scale every so often to adjust charges accordingly. Both of my digital scales will either read 5 grains as 5.05 gr or will read as 4.96gr....and maybe half the time actually read it as 5 grains. My take is digital anything is basically a computer. Computers fail. If a digital scale takes a spill that could do it, or they just start acting off for whatever reason. Now will the $350 digital scale do that after a year of use? Maybe.... or maybe not, but I'll wait and see how the reviews are in a couple years. One thing for sure, while its alot slower, the Ohaus D5 is dead on accurate every time and doesnt need batteries or any power source.....so its a 'just in case':)

@kassilewis5511 2 года назад

Lyman M5 user here! Vintage ohaus scales cant be beat for repeatability, sensitivity and linearity unless they've been abused at some point.

@leveractiongypsy1848 2 года назад

@@kassilewis5511 I wish I knew sooner!

@pacman10182 2 года назад

strain gauges used in digital scales vary based on temperature, that's why high end ones have a heater built in.

@leveractiongypsy1848 2 года назад

@@pacman10182 interesting thanks for the insight, I did not know that. Does a built in heater eliminate the fluctuations completely? If I put my scale on a heater at a low temp will that make it more accurate?

@pacman10182 2 года назад

@@leveractiongypsy1848 it wont, lot of other variables to account for, air pressure, humidity, the feng shui of the room it's in. but none of that matters for the kind of accuracy we're dealing with if we wanted NASA rated stuff, you'd need full climate control and a Russian orthodox priest

@mikedestefano7651 2 года назад

it looks like that is the ticket to reload 5.7x28 i would love for you to do a segment on this odd caliber

@YERAFirearms 2 года назад

it looks like 0.2gr (1mgr) load cell digital scale. It is not an FX-120

@kassilewis5511 2 года назад

Those are some "funky jamz"!😁

@gunnrwallace6323 Год назад

Is there a level built in to the scale for leveling?

@user-lo9jf6kq2b 2 года назад

How does this compare to a Prometheus in terms of accuracy?

@TheGreatDaneR 2 года назад

No windscreen for calibration?

@danielmorrison7579 2 года назад

Do you know the type of measuring sensor? Load cell, or magnetic force restoration? The website does not say. With the response of the scale, I'm guessing it's a load cell.

@contactericjones 2 года назад

It's in their description: The Creedmoor Sports TRX-925 works with a level of precision offered only by a select few scales on the market. To do this, our scales are produced in an ISO9001:2008 approved facility and utilize laboratory-grade electronics, including the incorporation of carefully tuned and optimized strain gages.

@YERAFirearms 2 года назад

@@contactericjones Look digital scale called Weightman 0.02gr for some 20 coins

@bubbala2983 2 года назад

If it measures in grains,then why does it calibrate in grams?

@PBVader 2 года назад

100 grams equals 1543.23 grains. Every digital I have used calibrates with 50 or 100 grams. Usually because that is the upper end the strain gauge is built for, and once calibrated, should be accurate anywhere in the middle. Internal calc does the rest. No need to build a special load cell for hundreds of units of measure, when they are all shelf standard. Hope this answers.

@paulgandy8400 2 года назад

Where are they made?

@TrevorNeve 2 года назад

Peoples Republic of China

@repairfreak 2 года назад

0.01543236 grains = .001 grams One thousandth of one gram or .015 grain readability is great. Most cheaper digital scales < $50.00 can usually only weigh to .01 gram accuracy, and with those price range scales repeatable of the reading varies slightly.

@Aldocello1 2 года назад

So I just received mine last night . Let it warm up for an hour , calibrated and played for a while . She is pretty precise and consistent . Repeatability was great . She reacts a bit slower than I am use to with the cheaper scales but thats to be expected with a precision scale . Definitely must be aware of air movement and or breathing lol . I moved her around on the bench and even bumped her a few times and returned to zero pretty much every time . I weighed a primer , wrote it down , left her on overnight , weighed it this morning and got the exact same number . All in all pretty good scale for the price . Definitely fits what I have been needing . Only negatives are the buttons seem a little cheep and does not have leveling legs/posts , but other than that Im good with it .

@POOKIE5592 2 года назад

LoveLivingLife Hey, I scrolled waayyy down and found a video about this scale that you didn't copy/paste your comment on.

@5RWill 2 года назад

Can you use this with an autotrickler?

@TrevorNeve 2 года назад

@PatriotPaulUSA 2 года назад

I noticed the Creedmoor scale is extremely slow. The EJ-5402 is 4-5 times faster to read the weight. That would make your reloading process extremely slow, if your trickling every charge for sure! Its worth every penny if its $100.00 more to buy the EJ-5402 if your looking at these scales. The USB output is also a big bonus. They both seem to be very good at determining the exact weight tho!

@SteveZ919 2 года назад

Progressive press shootout update?

@LonelyRavenProductio 2 года назад

I'm just jealous you have Varget...

@ronniebaker3036 2 года назад

Will this scale work with the v4 auto trickler

@1clnsdime1 2 года назад

No it's only for the FX120i and a couple others in that series.

@wowitslou 2 года назад

This scale looks to slow for the autotrickler

@thompsonjerry3412 2 года назад

You should try to weight a finger print, bet you cannot, there are limits to everything.

@eddieb9110 2 года назад

I feel like the price point is just too close to other high end options.

@chrisglover7080 2 года назад

I watched the review on this from creedmoore sports and what i dont under stand is they say it doesnt have to do the math from grams to grn's like other scales but yet all the calibrations are done with gram weights. Seems funny to me

@treece1 2 года назад

internal 555 timer intergated chip

@juliusjames5577 2 года назад

Why are the check weights in grams and not grains? Creedmoor sports says this scales native language is grains.

@hedontevenhavehislicenseli2058 2 года назад

Nice video. When is the progressive press showdown episode coming?

@patrickmorrissey2271 2 года назад

That's not a bad price, for a scale that appear to be very good.....

@spencerlong1109 2 года назад

Who has powder and primer

@marc1cathy 2 года назад

Le rechargement ne nécessite pas aussi précis. - Puisque la densité garantie par les fabricants de poudre est moins précise que cela. - Il y à beaucoup plus à gagner avec la préparation des douilles par exemple.. - Les munitions de compétition sont mesurées au volume, mais avec des composantes très bien assorties.

@joequixotic3039 2 года назад

Most commercial and high volume reloads use volumetric power measures but almost all hand loaded rifle match ammo uses weighed powder charges and occasionally weight sorted cases, primers and bullets so the uses of a highly precise scale for accurate reloading are many. A lot of hand loaded pistol match ammo uses weighed powder charges too but it's less critical and I'm sure many competitors use pistol ammo loaded with a volumetric powder measure but ultimately weighing can produce a more consistent charge than volumetric powder measures and when automated it is almost as fast and won't slow down the process unless you are churning out ammo on a progressive reloading press.

@marc1cathy 2 года назад

@@joequixotic3039 Non, le volume interne des douilles, et leur poids ne correspondent pas. Et je parle de munitions de compétition.

@joequixotic3039 2 года назад

@@marc1cathy I hope I'm not losing this in google translate but the internal volume of an empty case can be sorted for with weight if the brass is from the same source and has been prepped identically. If you are talking about volumetric powder measures throwing different weights, yes, that's why people measure the charge weight. Loading by charge weight is a method proven better than volumetric by ES and SD velocity measurements which is why real match ammunition hand loads use weighed powder charges. Maybe the French aren't doing it but a lot of French women don't shave their armpits. I'd rather take shaved...

@marc1cathy 2 года назад

@@joequixotic3039 Faux, ce sont des erreurs communes aux débutants. Joyeux temps des fêtes.

@joequixotic3039 2 года назад

@@marc1cathy pardon my French but you're full of maird.

@John-uo1qf 2 года назад

$350 and in stock

@kellyrick4365 2 года назад

I like it.. but, a bit pricey for me!

@carpenterpilot487 2 года назад

👍

@VilleLiski 2 года назад

Does not raise confidence in a product that thinks 0.01 grams equals to 0.01 grains. (the printed "precicion" on the device)

@Juliamalave8989 2 года назад

It’s all About the U

@automaticsteve9548 2 года назад

The TRX-925 is about the same price that I gave for my Sartorious AY-303 7 years ago, but the TRX has a higher resolution. The TRX-925 looks like a viable option.

@TMS5100 2 года назад

spend the money on a better scale - the A&D fx120i. ay-303 and trx-925 are strain gauge based scales. the fx120i is magnetic resistive force - far superior.