@@knifedance2402 We're literally witnessing a historic moment. The photos of those FGC-9s will be shown in the future when talking about firearms history.
@@Bran_Nuthin Burmese here, I'd reckon if they were built right they would work well enough for guerilla warfare. As for ammo, i know theres probably enough 5.56 and 7.62 being supplied from overseas but I dont know about 9mm. They must have looted a good amount though, seeing as the military/police has a lot of Uzis. Man, I wish jstark was still around to witness this.
I remember seeing this years ago. Being a full time professional machinist and having my own benchtop cnc mill at home I was wondering what happened to this guy and his idea. Very glad to see he hasnt given up and the purpose built horizontal mill design seems very efficient.
I'm also a machinist. We use Haas, fanuc mills and lathes. Make aircraft parts and some gun stuff. There's no way that thing would last more than 10 cycles bro 😀
ATF Guy: "Hey there buddy, looks like you have a 0% lower there. Can I ask where you got it?" Me: "Sir, it's a beer can." ATF Guy: "Don't get smart with me, perpetrator!"
I have an 80% scale 80% MAC11 flat on display made from a Budweiser beer can. It says "right to keep and BEER arms", and the 1876 is crossed out to say 1776. Its a multi-level political joke also about double taxation (since its the Alcohol Tabaco and Firearms), also a taxation agency without a single elected representative.
@@TheBoatPirate I think as long as its scaled it should be fine, because the blueprint is legal to own. Flashdrives are better though, have the full CAD model for CNC or PDF to print for flats to glue to the piece to drill and cut. I don't own any 2d printers though, except for laser engraving.
@@moisturizingmeerkats6326 You can do it pretty easy, I was able to do this right after emptying a can or two. The easiest way was to print out the PDF (I'm pretty sure I 3d printed the flat, because I don't own a 2d printer so either it came with an STL file for the flat or I traced it in CAD, Its too long ago to remember, also I don't remember how many cans I went through... but that speaks volumes to how easy it was!) Since the cans are thin, you can use normal high quality scissors, and then trace the print out onto the can and cut. Very easy, and the MAC11 files are online as PDF as well (free). There's also a Professor Parabellum version that looks interesting, so either one makes cool political artwork (which should also be covered under the 1st amendment, and nobody could convince me this isn't political art: its literally art for display, making fun of politics).
@Npc Soydischarge Smart enough? Common thugs don't strike me as smart in any measure, but yet they often are in (illegal) possession of a firearm all over the globe. From third world Somali pirates to drug criminals in some of the least gun friendly western countries, they have guns. Even countries that are basically proud with how few firearms they have, like Japan or Australia, have criminals using guns. And I guarantee those criminals owning guns largely have an IQ in the double digits. Might have gotten it from another criminal with a higher IQ, but point still stands, they have the gun.
@Npc Soydischarge criminals have a good amount of adding to our world's problems but the key thing I've learned, is it's all about your moral code and how you've been raised. And poverty too plays a role in increased crime rate of course so more on that needs addressed for those not making much money.
As a former CNC machinist and programmer, long time shooting enthusiast and lifelong proponent of personal liberties I back your mission 100%! Y'all are living my dream. Keep up the great work!
@@Franiveliuselmago off the top of my head I don't remember but print shoot repeat made a 3d printed scorpion with an ar reciever, could print the other parts or use a mill
They have some video of it, theres one video of it at some sort of event, they make it in 3 parts which are bolted together using threadlock on all the bolts, which explains how they do it in such a small machine, and also means you could do it on a cheaper small CNC machine using the same method
This is so rad. I love this concept. $2500 to have a desktop CNC machine to make lower receivers at home? Man. Now THAT, gun companies...is innovation!
Sounds as if they will add uppers as a serialized item thus making it a gun Sam as a lower. Same deal! Block of aluminum alow, new program and out pops a 0% upper! And maybe a nice raised pad to place a serial number.
@@ledenhimeganidleshitz144 The whole point of making you own is so the government doesn't know you have it so they can't take it. If you have to serialize it then just buy one from an FFL.
It would be nice to see GG4 or 5 turn into a slightly larger more rigid machine that would be a more "open ended" consumer affordable tiny CNC machine. The only PROBLEM with the GG are that they are kind of keyholed into certain size jobs and certain products. I'd love to see the next iterations be more of a "if you can dream it, and do some solidworks, and it fits in an X x X area, you can mill it with this micro CNC. Lots of us would love to make optics risers, flashlight mounts, adapter plates, custom ideas, and a plethora of non firearm parts. Look at what decent 3d printers have grown into.. If I buy a micro CNC, I want a micro CNC not just a firearm builder.
Exactly, I couldn't see myself buying this with such a limited use, but a miniature CNC machine that could create anything you design that fits in it's work envelope would be awesome!
@@wombatstriker For real man. I'm used to cutting shit with files and stones and calipers. Even if there was a little chatter, it'd be awesome. Luckily the "hobby home machinist" market is booming.
You've all missed the point of Ghost Gunner. It is a fully functioning CNC mill that runs on G-code, just like every other CNC mill out there. You CAN use Solidworks or Autodesk to do your modeling then run those files through the G-code converter, and feed that to GG. If you've got the G-code for a metal miniature of the Enterprise, it'll spit one out for you. It does not just make gun parts. What they sell is the machine itself which specializes in gun parts and has the programs for gun parts, but you absolutely CAN feed it any program for whatever CNC Milling part you want to make.
@@torjones1701 I meant more with the fixturing. It seems quite specific. I havent looked in a while, but last time I did I couldn't find anyone who had (vertically) installed a more traditonal machine vise. If that is becoming a thing, that's awesome.
Anybody with the specs and a milling machine even on old school tooling can do the same thing. It may not be as precise as a CNC (computer numeric control) machine but it will still work. Folks have been doing it for ages. No one can kill the cottage industry.
Yes but you really need experience or at least training to do it reliably, this eliminates that and gives the average Joe the ability to machine their own firearm parts without having to go through that.
Dude is a Genius and my absolute Hero, he deserves some kind of recognition of being a Gun builder God and miracle worker I just wish I had a GG3 TO be able to get myself out of financial ruin
The GG3 isn't meant to get anyone out of financial ruin but it's a good way to get in trouble if misused. The GG3 is just a big FU to the alphabet boys and them tracking what u own. You still have to be a law abiding citizen.
@@sifer5913 I agree, somewhat! but if you read the sales brochure on the websight it does other things other then making receivers, it is a desktop cnc after all. just a way better advanced version, it will engrave make other parts accessories etc. etc. and if you cant make money with a cnc machine. why pay that much money for a machine just to make an occasional gun for thyself. when you could put it to work, and let it pay for itself making other projects and accessories and the occasional gun for thyself while still telling the alphabet folks to take a long walk off a short pier
Not only gunsmithing! Also a way to make lots of other parts. Car parts for instance! Are you perhaps restoring an old dodge and need knows bits of trim etc. Members of your old car club need some? Old airplane restoration? Same sorts of stuff can be made, not flight critical naturally! Modle train stuff great hobby. Biden wanted to make single use machines that only make gun parts restricted. So...Great scale model train maker!
This is awesome, and I unconditionally support it. But a 6 month wait, and saying they're only planning on making 700 this year is a major disappointment. My Ender 3 showed up in 2 days.
@@moosestache1769 or I can just 3D print some. They don't last as long, but they're done way faster, and way cheaper. The deposit alone for the GG3 is $500, you can get an Ender 3 for less than that.
I'll be more impressed with the product when steel becomes more easily cut. But i'm ridiculously impressed with what they have done outside their products.
@@TheFishE77Official it's harder than aluminum. Plus lowers are now even made of polymer with brass inserts for strength . You may want to reconsider your logic. Brass is heavy, that is the main downside I see.
Amazingly ridiculous overreach by ATF/DOJ. If you get caught selling an 80% and charged for selling/building guns without a license, ask the court to have an ATF agent chamber and fire a round with that 80%. Then, when they claim that 'it can *become* a firearm with very little extra work,' ask them 'then why are you not charging me for NFA violation for manufacture of an untaxed machine gun? ' I think a jury and judge will see through their bullshit very quickly at this point, given that the difference between an AR-15 lower and an M-16 lower is ONE HOLE.
@@DH-xw6jp Then: And he has mothballs and sulfuric acid (in his car battery), so we're sure he's making explosives. Or, has the things to do so, making it 'constructive possession.' We're informing the DEA he had half a box of Sudafed in the bathroom cabinet, too; obviously a meth kingpin. He has a penis, obviously a rapist looking for a victim. The very concept of a 'constructive' offense is ludicrous on its face, and should have been laughed out of court by a smirking judge the first time they tried it, but they have killed people for such 'crimes' over and over and over again with no repercussions; hell, the agents all got medals.
The 3d printing gun community was *literally started* by Cody Wilson. The FCG9 has been photographed in the wild being used by rebels against Myanmar. We have already won, even if government refuses to admit it. Huge credit goes to Cody Wilson, and of course the actual designer of the FCG9, J Stark, who was murdered by the German government. I'm not necessarily taking sides in the Myanmar thing, mind. But those who rebel are always within their rights. The fact that they're building guns entirely outside the control of the State is what we should be celebrating.
If you want to be specific, Stark wasn't the actual designer. The FCG9 was a copy from a Texas designer with possibly one of the first semi-auto printed firearms, and the FCG9 was a minor revision to the AP9 to use metric screws and specified an ECM barrel (which was already a thing). If you want to say "popularized", maybe, but even then, its just a metric reskin and I would say "remixer" (which there are actually more substantial, and impressive remix designers than the FCG was). Can you imagine being the real designer, and then some kid steals your work plastering their name over it? As a mechanical and aerospace engineer I would be very annoyed (which the designer was since all they were asking for was credit). Seems trashy to steal major credit and all that important testing like that... I personally think all mechanical designs are cool, and small arms designs are excellent for learning to improve almost any commercial product (such as designing for installation, tolerances and their importance, nifty assembly tricks etc). I may not specify "inspired by Eugene Stoner" for unrelated products where I see a cool little feature I add to product, but I'm also not flat out copying like Stark did. I'm glad someone ran with the design though and improved it, but I don't see a reason on hiding credit where credit is due.
@@georgewhitworth9742 by definition humans have a right to choose their governance. By definition any government which has to deal with rebellion is overstepping their bounds. Government is the most evil thing humans intentionally do to each other.
Ultimately that's very short sighted. This only helps people make a lower. One single part. They need to buy a whole slew of more parts to make a complete gun. And anyone who's built their own guns knows it is much cheaper to buy a complete gun than buy parts individually. This could make AR parts manufacturers (or Glock parts, or 1911 parts, etc) a lot of money. And this is only for a very small percentage of gun buyers who are willing to build their own guns. It's no threat to the gun industry at all. I see it as a huge boon for the industry.
@@dmk0210 i think thats an optimistic take: that the gun industry would see home manufacturers as too fringe to cut into sales and just big enough a market to sell accesories to. realistically, why wouldnt big gun manufacturers want to maintain a monopoly? with improved cnc, home manufacturers can create their own accesories, even sell them and compete with bigger manufacturers. its basic economics: the fewer manufacturers of any good, the easier it is for existing manufacturers to restrict supply and drive up prices (see: OPEC). i hope youre right that the big manufacturers see the writing on the wall and try to work with new technology rather than fight it like the record industry did with filesharing back in the 00s though
Good, they don't need to like it. They only fight for themselves so they can keep manufacturing and making profit. The gun community are the only ones actually trying to fight. Look at the ammo industry and how they're screwing all of us with their pricing and lack of reloading supplies...
At the end when he told Gifford and atf to enjoy their week there was so much vitriol in his eyes lmao. Man was basically forcing them to choke on his gluk glock 🤣
Great idea. Not sure if it's worth $2,400 for "personal use" just to bypass the serialization stamp. If this was capable of both the lower and upper and rail, that would be something.
$2,500 for the GG3 $500 deposit. Now not all that bad for what you get however I'd rather stack a ton of 80% lowers that I can still buy if I'd like as of now.
Cool! I have an idea to make CNC/3DPrinter which incorporates welding head and milling head, so welding head works as "3D-Casting" head or plastic extruder, but for metal and milling head work as final shape maker. But for now it is just an idea. I've seen such hybrid machines made at industrial grade level, but they are combine laser melting possibility with milling - this is very expensive for home use. Welding apparatus with milling work-head much cheaper and simpler. Probably it is possible to make it so small and cheap so it is will fit for hobby/home use.
Well, I see that it is possible to use inductive heating bed only, not as a third tool head, because welding - is a complex process, well studied and it is possible to make 3D welding without deformation of substrate you just need to do all accordingly to correct welding technology. So it can be hybrid with 2 instruments (mill and welding) and with flat inductive heating bed. And in addition it is possible to add a thermal camera with wide range of sensitivity (0 - 700C) and to use computer vision to control the process of welding and correct temperature regimen of welding. Interesting thing. When I will have time I'll try to make it.
And with the help of a small induction crucible, you can easily process aluminum shavings or previously made products, having previously grinded them (with some losses for oxides and slag). And by casting into a long graphite crucible with a thin channel, again make aluminum wire from this waste.
It may be possible to make a jetmetal printer by analogy with inkjet printers. Drops of metal, if they just drip onto a hot metal surface, behave very unpredictably. But if the drops are small and fall fast enough, they will stick where they fell. And if the ambient temperature is sufficient, then they will be fused onto a metal surface (as in laser sputtering). It is not difficult to make a jet nozzle for such a printer, for this it is necessary that in the graphite crucible inside the induction coil there is a moving part inside, also made of graphite, which would change the volume of the crucible by the volume of the drop and sharply squeeze this drop out of the crucible. On the other side of the crucible, the aluminum wire fed into the crucible will serve as a plug. And so you can print not only with aluminum but also with any other metal that can be melted using an induction heater. True, it is desirable to carry out all operations like welding with argon.
I'm a crotchety old man (73) that loves all his guns I only have 3 guns that have wood on them, I was an electronics tech that worked in windows since 3.1. and I still want this thing.
Quick question 🙋🏼♂️ when machining a ”0%” with this gg3 how do they do the mag well!? What about a 1911 mag well? Doesn’t it take a EDM CNC machine To produce 100% accurate mill spec mag well?
You didn't hear it from me, but with the right diameter tubing, a router and 3d printed jigs you can make the guts of an AR upper. Look up the CHONK-15.
@@teacher_shep i know when it comes to the Swedish ak5c the serialized parts are the upper , lower and the bolt. I'm thinking that you could modify the design of the upper so that it can take some sort of piston ar15 pattern bolt and carrier. If you already mill it why not increase the parts availability. Imagine the LSX crate engine of the gun world where the internals stays the same and the outside can be whatever classic gun you want.
I love it but the only thing is that it only mills the top half of the lower receiver without the buffer tower ring. You have to actually buy the bottom half of the receiver and the buffer tower ring for 85 bucks from their website. As far as I know you can’t use the GG3 to mill those out but if you were able to that would be well worth it!
Can this machine be used to make Car parts? I like the CNC features and the accuracy, and want a small desktop CNC machine like this. Cody Wilson should setup a side company that builds these machines for makers and mechanics, separate from Defense Distributed, so that the same technology can get out there to everyone.
Not keen about the whole "lower receiver in 2 halves" idea...? Are they getting bolted together ? Still appreciate all the work he's put into the concept. 💪
Perhaps the two halves is a bit of a kludge. However, adding a few lumps and bumps and maybe a location pin or two and some extra bolts and a little lock tight red may make a functional lower. And so, here is a thumb in the eye to the ATF! Which is the point I think.
I understand your target market and motivation. I'm wondering if you have considered making a model that can do more generic desktop machining. There are desktop metal cutting CNC mills on the market today, which I'd love to have, but the have a price tag that's way out of reach. It would be great to be able to buy a CNC mill like yours, at or near your price point, that could do anything. It would also be great if you could make that machine as simple to operate as your current machine for us retired hobbyists.
You can always go the RF15 style mill route and upgrade it for CNC. That is more or a dive into machining and CNC than some may want but it's far more flexible in what you can do. The GG is cool if your only interested in producing what it's designed for.
Hello Cody, Is there any way I can make my lowers float? I threw 3 of mine in a lake and they immediately sunk! It's a shame really, all my homemade firearms seem to have a tendency to be attracted to bodies of water despite not being able to float at all :(((
His closing remarks had me laughing. "I hope they had a good week." That comment was the personification of American attitudes against authority. You may have the upper hand now, but we're not done.
Im a cnc machinist and ive build lowers and upper at Sig Sauer. You can alwayz tell if people know machining from their questions. Its like asking a doctor what is cervical spine surgery
Technically Mark Serbu turned his CNC machine into a full auto (the bit would punch the primer, and then move to next cylinder), but he's also a registered machinegun manufacturer and did it to show that yes, a milling CNC machine can be a 1 click full auto.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of this machine. But if they ban 80%, it's still a huge win for the anti guners, just like the NFA the goal was never to ban anything it was to make it unaffordable and a $2,500 machine to do what used to be able to be done with a drill and some jigs or an old clapped out manual Mill still keeps home builds out of the hands of the poores, which is their entire goal...
$2500 can be saved up, and that the price without economy of scale. Imagine, if the demand is there, and the competition, these machines would see a enormous price decrease while getting better over time.
Not a gun guy myself, don’t have time for it, but I do stay up on the top political stories, and I’m a big fan of the Constitution…..That said, this technology along with 3D printing are a classic example of why Gun Control doesn’t and can’t ever work, first it inspires innovation, there wouldn’t be a 1/4 of the firearms and firearm products on the market that there is currently, nor would most people know that these things existed for purchase by the law abiding citizen and secondly what is the government going to do regulate raw materials, that they believe are firearms in their rawest forms? Good luck and that’s a rhetorical question by the way! Alphabet agencies need to enforce gun laws on the books, and stop inspiring innovation in areas of the economy that they don’t want to see organically grow out of their poor out of touch decisions.
6 month wait for the GG3? Ordered April 2021, still waiting. But it'll be worth it. The wait is 6 months before they even start assembly. Then it gets put into a queue for waiting to be built.
