Honestly, the gov't is incentivized to keep alien conspiracy theories going. A good conspiracy is a great way to cover up something else that they don't want the public or enemy nations to know about. And the fact that UFO conspiracies about an event tend to discredit the idea that anything occured at all is a bonus deflection for them.
That's more of a pre-internet idea about propaganda. The internet, social media, and the ubiquity of digital cameras and smartphones democratized information to a remarkable degree. The US government does not control the flow of information. Whether a deprived and devastated global population *cares* about this or that terrible thing is more of the issue. Capitalism still is popular enough to exist, for example.
My contention has always been that a lot of the things people have actually seen (not technical blips misidentified by trainee pilots using new IR equipment they're unfamiliar with) are probably classified military projects. A good example of it is the "Ghost Rockets" reported by countries neighboring the Soviet Union after WW2. Those mysterious craft were very likely experimental missiles the Soviets secured from occupying half of Germany after the war, in the same way the US secured the other half and built NASA from that science. People seem to forget that there was a hell of a lot being developed in Germany at that time, and the Allies only secured half of it.
@@ChiefCrewinthere’s scandals every day. I guess that’s why UAP announcements are also every day now? There’s still plenty of ways to distract the populace without pulling the UFO card.
US pilots, as well as military pilots all over the world surely can't know when they are dealing with a flying object that far exceeds the capabilities of anything that humans have built.
@@student99bg What essentially you are saying: pilots can identify a set of aircrafts more accurately. Therefore when they can't identify it, it must be an alien spacecraft.
It's a great quote and a really good song by Tim Minchin. In this context I don't approve of using it though, the scientific community has been cynical towards UFO sightings to the point that it used to ridicule them much like Galileo Galilei was ridiculed by his peers. Similarly, it's about time to start acknowledging that it isn't such a crazy idea that we're being visited by NHI. Considering the witnesses, experts, whistleblowers, videos, famous incidents, leaked classified documents, we have gathered a wealth of data that strongly suggests an extra-terrestrial origin. Comparing this logical conclusion to a brain falling out is just acting like Galileo's peers did towards him.
@@wihdinheim0 "it's about time to start acknowledging that it isn't such a crazy idea that we're being visited by NHI. Considering the witnesses, experts, whistleblowers, videos, famous incidents, leaked classified documents, we have gathered a wealth of data that strongly suggests an extra-terrestrial origin." False on all counts. There has been ZERO credible evidence whatsoever. Everything thus far can be easily explained simply by showing it to the correct experts. VERY few things are unidentified/unexplained, and NONE of them suggest anything extraterrestrial whatsoever in ANY way. Likewise while the math almost guarantees the existence of alien life SOMEWHERE in the universe, the same math and physics as we know it also guarantees it has never reached Earth and has no clue Earth exists.
I recall a couple of my dad’s “UFO” stories from his Career as an Air Force pilot. He simply logged them as Unidentified Flying Objects, that behaved oddly from his perspective. He never made claims about aliens or any such thing, and he would often tell me, that alien cover up conspiracies are the best thing that ever happened to our aviation research programs, because it’s misinformation and buries anything real under a pile of BS.
I watched the stealth bomber land in Alaska in the 1980s. It was Y2K before I read a news article talking about a "non-flying prototype" and photo of the plane I saw land. For almost two decades it was a UFO to me, because it looked so different from everything else out there.
@@kittenisageek that is a good way of showing that when you invest 776 billion dollars on the military then you have some pretty advanced stuff. Stuff that you do not want to fall into enemy hands
I remember the story of the first jet plane the US Army brought over from Germany after WWII to test. They had fake propellers on the plane when on the ground, then had the pilot wear a ape mask - so any other pilots seeing it would report a magical plane with no propellers - being flown by a gorilla. So.... Yeah, the 'secret' military people would get plenty of use out of alien conspiracy folklore.
The way I always explain it to people is this: If something is a UFO, that doesn't mean nobody knows what it is, it just means SOMEBODY doesn't know what it is.
Also, a UFO is unidentified by definition. To claim it's aliens is assuming to identify the unidentified. Not knowing where lightning comes from does not necessitate Thor.
@@fowlfables Word games. When people are talking about UFOs they are talking about flying saucers. Not a smudge on a camera lens. This silly argument is nothing but a distraction from sightings of metallic objects with no visible means of propulsion flying in the atmosphere.
However, if an object resembling a “bright star” shoots across the sky Almost as fast as you can blink then stops, and go back The way it came we can cal that a controlled ufo… controlled unidentified flying object
I like the idea they visited during the dinosaurs and the first one off the ship was immediately eaten by velociraptors and the rest of the crew decided to nope out and drop an asteroid as they left
The idea that Jaime Maussan (the Mexican UFO “corpses” guy) was taken this seriously outside of Mexico is absolutely hilarious. He is a known nut job around here lmao
That's what I've been saying in a lot of videos We have been laughing at Mausan for decades, knowing he's a lunatic, and yet suddenly he became world famous for another of his stupid grifts and now all of Mexico looks dumber for allowing him to go to congress I hate Mausan, I used to love laughing at him, nlw I just hate him
Bless you for keeping a calm demeanor while making this video. I had a close family member come to me, in a panic attack, freaking out about aliens after watching those congressional hearings. It took every fiber of restraint I had not to audibly groan and roll my eyes.
What's fun to think about is how aliens on other planets might be going through the exact same thing we are. Like they've managed to invent their own youtube and they have their own Kyle Hill explaining stuff.
I wonder what Alien Kyle's hair(like thing) looks like. Is it just as majestic and bad-ass? It makes me sad that we will most likely never find out....
While aliens are cool and all, legitimately studying things that are in the air is actually kinda neat. Identifying the unidentified flying object is pretty fun.
I think all the people taking time to say they dont believe in aliens have the wrong priorities when they could be looking into the physics defying, no propulsion visible, supersonic, zero inertia craft that occassionally interfere with radar.
Definitely an alien sports car. What's really cool is seeing one 30 years ago and then spending 3 decades trying not to ever tell anyone I cared about since it only invited ridicule and embaressment. But fucking knowing deep down that I wasn't crazy and neither were hundreds, if not thousands, of others. Then outta nowhere the govt acknowledges authentic video and a few fighter pilots (who are IMO easily THE MOST credible person you could ask) open up, oh and they change the name to "UAP", maybe to pretend they didn't ruin countless lives by labeling people crazy and nuts for decades on end. Only thing that's really irritated me about all of this. Unnecessary and seemingly to bypass a fucking stigma THEY created.
The reason the US government is calling them phenomenon is because it's a possibility that rival nations created them, they're brand new science we don't know anything about, or really any number of possibilities. Calling them "flying" discredits the idea of weather, for instance, and if there's some kind of weather that can be generated by our radars that introduce a flight risk it's kind of important to know about. Which is kind of why I don't really like this video. Sure, they're probably not aliens, but science is not about looking at what we all agree that we understand.
@@Ryanowning You had half the story... The change in terminology has nothing to do with rival nations. They're not all objects, as well as not all flying, so the old term was not accurate enough. Ball lightning isn't an object, and atmospheric reflections aren't flying. The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena descriptor is simply more concise and less presumptive, along with purposefully stepping back from the public connotations of UFO=alien spaceship OMG. I'm sure if there were a more concise word than unidentified, they would have jumped on that too, especially if it made a clever acronym. No, seriously, the Air Force has a unit called Prime Base Engineer Emergency Force. Prime BEEF. They like fun acronyms when they can get away with them. Tell me GAP wouldn't be perfect for something we're missing knowledge on. I bet the planning committee spent a week trying to kill that U before giving up. As for "this kind of video," this kind of video IS science. Jumping to "it's aliens" is such a comical leap and bound in logic it really doesn't deserve serious consideration until there's serious evidence that it can't be anything else. To think otherwise is to, as was said in the video, have one's mind too wide open. Plop.
@@VoltisArt The only people saying "it's aliens" are the schizos nobody cares about and the people shouting "it's NOT aliens" everyone else just wants to know wtf is going on and if the UAP are a risk.
If someone (or myself) were to see something break the laws of physics I tend to keep a skeptical open mind and do my best to investigate further because, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clark
As a mexican, I was dreading/looking forward to see how you would tear us a new one for that ridiculous arts and crafts project we showcased for our government, and that quick dismissal was probably the most painful way it could've gone We got some amazing memes out of it, but the moment I saw that headline and the picture of the "mummified aliens" I almost lost my shit
I was skeptical at first too but I am coming to the conclusion that they are real. Be proud your country was the first with balls to release alien bodies to the public. America has some but refuse to admit it.
@@EveningFox Reminds me of when the washington post accused us of being racist for not having black players and only having white players, when most of the team was latino, and our black population is minuscule.
I can’t wait until you find out those mummies are real so you can finally feel obsolete in your own intellectual levels. People are being paid to come and study the mummies but think what you want ignorance is bliss
"I do think we should investigate weird stuff in the sky and keep an open mind but not so open that your brain falls out" is the HARDEST quote I've ever heard and I really think you should trademark that if it isn't already lol
For a time I lived in the American southwest that has quite the reputation for it’s UFOs and alien encounters. This area is also home to several very large aerospace companies, and a U.S. Air Force test facility that specialised in developing stealth bombers in the 80s & 90s. I’m sure this is just some crazy coincidence, and one has nothing to do with the other.
Just to play devil's advocate, if what Grush says about reverse engineering is true, it would be plausible that people in those areas are also seeing reverse engineered non-human tech. Regardless, we may find out at some point soon-ish.
@@parkerault2607 How do you tell the difference between reverse engineered non-human tech and regular engineered human tech? Radar probably seemed otherworldly to outsiders when it was still a secret.
@@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 Radar didn't operate outside of our understanding of the laws of physics at the time. If people are seeing craft that lack any visible propulsion technology, that can hover silently and accelerate at rates that should turn any biological occupants into jelly, they're probably not of human origin. There are many, many accounts of this with radar signatures to back them up (see the USS Nimitz incident, the Stephenville TX mass sighting for example). People shouldn't take every reported UFO sighting at face value, but it would be equally foolish to dismiss the many cases with multiple credible witnesses and strong evidence backing them up. Hundreds of witness testimonies backed by radar data would be good enough for a conviction in a court of law, it should be good enough to open one's mind to the possibility that the phenomenon should at least be taken seriously.
It's the perfect example of "any advanced enough technology looks like magic at the eyes of who doesn't understand it". I know the quote is not exactly like that, but I think it makes the point clear xD@@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38
"I do think we should investigate weird stuff in the sky and keep an open mind but not so open that your brain falls out" is the HARDEST quote I've ever heard
@@ErvinandMFantasyFootball we have two simultaneous wars going on, communal violence in many parts of the world, the world is on the brink of WW3, what do you think?
@@ErvinandMFantasyFootballIt's supposed to be an open ended question to farm likes That way, you can feel in the blanks with whatever bothers you specifically Feminism, the LGBTQ+ community, imigration, climate change, the 1%, the growing Neo-Nazi movement, the Left, the Right, Ukraine, China, communism, capitalism, hypercapitalism, and much more, just pick your poison It works even if you're one of those "I'm not Left or Right, I move forward" type of people, because you can just fill the blank with "politics"
If anything, the government would probably not mind about the whole alien narrative, especially around the classified Nevada Air Force testing facility. It’s rather helpful to paint aliens as a possible source when you are flying highly classified aircraft for testing purposes.
That was literally the whole Roswell debaucle.They de-classified the documents some years ago, and revealed the whole story of cover-ups for the testing of hypersonic ad spy planes, using the UFO craze of the 50's. THe weirdoes did not believed the documents, so we had that "invasion" of Area 51 BS the year after...
Historically they’ve actually been fairly concerned. Concerned that UFO researchers would end up documenting or uncovering military projects. Quite a few of the UFO researchers have been interviewed by Gov. Agents trying to figure what exactly they know. This was a concern especially around the Cold War.
When I was little I was constantly afraid that I was going to be abducted by aliens. My response to my own fears was always “it’s unlikely that there are aliens on earth and it’s even more unlikely they’d bother to abduct ME”
My main takeaway from the hearing wasn't about the UFOs, but rather the fact that the military is allegedly circumventing their duties to report things to Congress. And, more over, that there are people in the military whom do not have sufficient means nor support to report events they are uncomfortable with.
There's a UFO disclosure section in a big piece of legislation by Chuck Schumer that would make it completely legal for people who worked in these alleged legacy programs to come out and talk openly. Don't think it's been taken out of the policy yet though.
@@grantadamson3478 I'll do it. Which claim? Military Personal reporting to congress? Or people in the military not having support to report their experiences?
I agree that the culture of making whistleblowing within some institutions difficult and ostracizing is a problem. I also agree that it's likely that the military has been afforded almost free reign to spend how they please, to think that presenting this person with zero evidence in order to highlight those things doesn't really make much sense. There are 100 other, real, provable events and circumstances available to people to show those things. If you hadn't noticed, even if these hearings were for the things you'd mentioned no changes have even been proposed to fix those problems. No new legislation has been drafted, no new bills have been making their way through congress, nothing. If the committee in charge and headed by the republicans intended to use this person as a way to highlight inefficiencies in order to fix them, they have not. It seems to me that the main goal of these hearings was to attempt to do something popular yet ultimately knowingly useless to pretend like they are governing, when in reality the house has a 5 seat republican majority yet hasn't passed a single piece of legislation in over a year.
I believe the company he was working for and him had a fallout. Not sure of any specifics but I’d imagine it’s a bunch of legal reasons as to why he doesn’t use it anymore.
Wasn't it his own personal motto-slogan? I've never heard anyone else say it besides Kyle. Why do you have to give up your own catchphrase when you change jobs? That's like legally changing your name every time you change jobs.
@@Worthless-onethat’s the problem with making content for a company. The company owns any intellectual property you are behind. So even if he is known as the “because science”-guy, the company owns the trademark of “Because science”.
UFOs do have strong evidence behind them. You can ignore them, lie that they don't exist or pretend that they aren't strong, that won't change the reality. The evidence for non human intelligence making UFOs, sometimes being in them is strong and it proves beyond reasonable doubt that UFOs are real, they are made by non human intelligence and they defy our laws of physics and our current understanding of reality. First and foremost I have in mind the Varginha Brasil case in January 1996, Ariel school Zimbabwe case in 1994 and countless other reports from military pilots and anti aircraft crews on the ground seeing and interacting with these intelligently made UFOs of much greater performances than human fighter jets, UFOs whose movements defy our laws of physics (the nights of the UFOs in Brasil 1986 is just one out of dozens of examples of this). If this goes against your logic it only proves that your logic is wrong. If it goes against your science it proves your science is wrong. There is only two possibilities, UFOs are intelligently controlled or they aren't. The behavior that UFOs displayed when David Fravor and his unit was chasing them, as well as when other US military aircrafts, Brasilian, Yugoslavian and many other countries' military aircrafts were chasing them proves that they are intelligently controlled. Nothing without a power source and intelligent control can hover in the air then accelerate to speeds far greater than fastest human jets in the blink of an eye then come to a full stop just as fast. Which brings me to another question. Either they are made by humans or they are made by non human intelligent beings. Their behavior far exceeds anything that human aircrafts can do and their behavior 50 years ago far exceeded what best fighter jets can do now. Therefore, they were made by non human intelligent beings.
This has been my theory entirely. The concept is very simple. Many planets are thousands, if not millions of lightyears away from us. Taking into account range of radio waves, we would never be able to hear things. And for things that far away, anything we see now would be millenia out of date. Beings there would see stone age humans still banging sticks together while in fact we are trying to find them instead. It was either kurgasat or Kyle who stated that humans evolved as soon as they could. Assuming the same on other planets, it's going to be a very long time before we will ever hear from them. And visiting? I doubt that will ever happen.
I'd think because of the astronomically large number of planets in the universe, the likelihood that we are among the oldest races is extremely low. More likely we are in the center of the Bell curve
That would track. Realistically, what are the odds of there being another planet capable of supporting life? What are the odds that they came to be much earlier than our ancestors?
Except mathematically that's not accurate. To our best understanding the universe is 13.7 billion years old. Our planet is 4.5 billion years old which means the universe was around for 9 billion years before our planet formed. Let alone if you think about it we has a species have only been around for a 300k years. which means that whole solar systems and planets have been born and died before our planet was even formed let alone us as a species
Has anyone here, including the host, done legitimate and thorough research into this topic for more than what was necessary to create a 14 minute video? One with the sole purpose of making this topic and subject matter look silly? Because had it been thoroughly researched, it would quickly become obvious that the phenomena is very real, and the evidence of it being so, is absolutely EVERYWHERE. The government has already stated that this is very real, doing so a few years ago. What has been conveniently omitted from this video are the very pierces of evidence that DO prove the existence of ufos/uaps. The new terminology that the government has recently created for ufos (now referred to as uaps) is their last ditch effort to deflect any attention to this topic away, which has worked over the last 75+years. But the growth of social media, especially in the last 10 years, has turned out to be more of a formidable enemy against their efforts to keep the populace in the dark about this. There are so many things going on behind the scenes right now, and just because David Grusch has been the first whistle-blower to come out publicly, does not mean he is the last. There have been DOZENS of others who have also since testified to congress, under oath. They wait now, only for the ability and permission to come out in a public forum, just as Mr. Grusch did. And they are gaining said ability as we speak.
A little disappointed in this. Basically just made fun of the claims. I think your position is right, but this wouldn't convince anyone who didn't already agree with you, because you treated the people making the claims like straw men. Which makes this basically just a circle-jerk. Was hoping for better.
No it amounts to "all talk, no walk, bruh. Where'd be the actual proof." Which is the utterly the fairest way of treating the UFO believers. You don't generally see a believer whose belief is based on actual evidence but rather a desire to believe.
@@guyman1570 doesn’t really change my point. This was just a self-congratulatory “let’s make fun of the kooks!” video instead of a dive into the evidence. Because there are real investigations into the claims, as well as genuine scientific searches for aliens, such as SETI. They have all turned up empty-handed. However, I would’ve much preferred digging into all the evidence against aliens than this, which was basically a fluff piece. Edit: To be clear, I’m disappointed in this because his videos are normally a lot BETTER than this and DO dig into the science. This was a let down because he’s usually better than this.
My brother in law panicked when he saw a UFO in the sky, he was actually crying! Until my sister pointed out it was a Chinese lantern! He was so convinced! I've never let him live that down haha
Oh boy if you only knew how much a pair of Chinese lanterns captured on an IR camera has been all the rage of a huge group of people who think it’s the most convincing video of extraterrestrial life ever recorded. It’s silly and unfortunate 🤦♂️
Dude 150 years ago we were riding on horses with no concept of what today would be like. The fact you can totally disregard any potential alien technology based off our current understanding of science is you having a superiority complex. There IS a there there.
edit- this is largely about the Nimitz encounter, I should mention. When you have more half a dozen trained observers provide accounts from the perspective of their specialties (radar operators, fighter pilots, even the chief-master-at-arms) that should bring pause. It makes me want to see the Radar data- except the Radar Data hard drives were taken by some dudes who landed on a helicopter and took them (reported by radar techs Kevin Day, Gary Voorhis, and other I can't remember the name of. Third guy had a red beard if I remember correctly). So assuming that all three aren't lying and SOMEONE landed on those ships- there should be a paper trail. COs like Ghilman should be able to say if someone landed on their ships- we just had 2 pilots and a Mil.Intel officer provide testimony under threat of perjury, so why aren't we calling in some of the on-site decision makers? If it was a Jet engine through FLIR there would be heat or other exhaust seen on the screen- these had no visible means of propulsion- even in IR. That's anomalous when you combine it with the movements it was reported to have made. btw I don't give an eff what the real answer is, but there are blatant attempts at obstructing access to data that would even confirm the events were prosaic. And it's so irresponsible to dismiss this because of the stigma- and unfortunately these pseudo-scientific "debunks" are easier to digest (or you could go full r/aliens- another problem in itself) for casual observers and it just makes the stigma worse. Stigma erodes at every useful part of data collection. And it's so sad to see this channel peddle dogma instead of simply acknowledging the lack of actionable data. You can't just say "Oh the FLIR videos were obviously just planes or balloons" without an earnest attempt at telling me WHICH plane or weather balloon: where were they going? Who (if anyone) piloted them? How close were they to the restricted military training area? If you won't attempt to answer those questions- you're spouting dogma. All those answers should be available with more access to the data. And saying we should discount the multitude of expert testimonies before we even look for the actionable data is unscientific. Science is a tool, not a belief. Stop treating it like that, Kyle. Saying we should discount Grusch because the information he handed to the Inspector General of the Intelligence community was 2nd hand is a bad faith argument. It was his job to investigate! Do we equally criticize Judges, Police Detectives, District/Crown Attorneys for not being direct witnesses to the crimes they prosecute? The data we want gets hindered by stigma, purposeful obfuscation, and Freedom of Information Act exemptions. It should be fairly easy to debunk if we can actually collect and analyze the information and data- why not ask for it from the entities that are actually allowed to do it instead of strawmanning Grusch for coming through the legal channels offered?
You said it better than me in my comment, but I agree with you, specially about the USS Nimitz (aka Tic Tac) case. Here, Kylle is playing the same "tactic" as other scientific communicators by just mentioning Grush. Furthermore, is he implying that Navy pilots and radar operators are stupid enough to not know how to differentiate a weather balloon or airplane from an unknown object? These people have years of training operating the most advanced military systems in the world and then a skeptic or a scientific communicator appears to tell them: You don't know what you saw, that was probably just a balloon. (I apologize for my english).
I think the biggest flaw in it all is just the lack of things to show. People need visual confirmation. The public has a generalized distrust of Congress and its going-ons and sentiment about the armed forces can be similar depending on where you are. So hearing a Military Intelligence Officer give a testimony before Congress using second hand reporting (even if his job put him in the best position for valid information) is not a foundation many people are going to support if its real or not.
@@BinkoBunko I totally agree. But these direct witness names, project names and locations, fraud methods- those have been given to the IGIC, and potentially now some members of congress. Congress is mad that the DoD has never passed an audit and this dude is saying "I can tell you what they are up to, just not in public and that it is up to the elected representatives to follow up through legislation". That's not unfair to me, but what is unfair is if those congress people don't share the information. There could be information that exposes it all as BS, I dunno- but I want to see the data before I dismiss it all. True claims or false; I agree it needs to be shown.
Hard agree, this is such an incredibly bad faith video. How can he go on about witness/ expert testimony and then completely ignore the pilots and just assume that the *trained* military pilots couldn't tell the diference between a uap and thermal signatures of regular planes. Not to mention all the other people with claims you brought up. And yeah crazy to complain at Grusch for following the legal whistleblower route instead of ruining his life and having to flee the country fearing life in prison. Really dissapointed in this video, he could've been perfectly fair and said the evidence is still weak and fairly unsubstantiated but instead he treats everyone who is waiting to see more as idiots.
This is also why it’s impossible to get flat earthers to accept basic science. They have everything to lose if they acknowledge reality, and everything to gain by “keeping the faith”.
Faith is not a good pathway to the truth yet look at how many religious people there are. Its scary to think most of the world throw out logic to keep their beliefs!
@@jeffknott1975that's what weirds me out about militantly-religious people. Despite so much fact, they point everything they have to god and the bible
They're brainwashed from childhood so it's a huge mental struggle to let go of that belief. It's easier to keep it and ignore the mountains of conflicting evidence.
"I would have said the same thing if Carl Sagan was testifying". that made me laugh because we all know Sagan wouldn't have reached out with just 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge.
Oh 100%. Its so obvious that he and the 30 other senior intelligence officials that have made protected disclosures to the IG are perjuring themselves just for shits and giggles. So, so obvious.
I wonder if we'd even be going down this road if Carl Sagan was somehow still alive. He was a voice of reason. I think he would have had some elegant way of explaining it to these "believers" that wouldn't make them feel stupid and might actually get through to them. I love Neil DeGrasse Tyson but he seems to put people off in a way Sagan never did and so there's currently just a void that it seems only Carl Sagan could fill.
David Grusch officially filed a complaint under the Whistleblower Act. He submitted documentation and evidence to the Office of the Inspector General. He was interviewed by the Inspector General under oath along with others who allegedly are or have worked with these programs. The US Inspector General has since deemed Grusch a credible whistleblower and the investigation is still ongoing. Kyle Hill’s video is HORRIBLY researched and misleading from incompetence.
As someone who worked in military intel, I can _anecdotally_ tell you that there are just as many big fish storytellers in intel as there are on a construction site. I had guys claim they saw top secret alien projects. They also claimed Brad Pitt attended their sister's wedding.
Reminds me of why I switched professions. Two construction worker co-workers arguing about mermaids. One of them was trying to explain that the mermaids trained the dolphins for the US government.
I really get what you're trying to do with this scientific method approach but nobody is saying that Grusch proved that aliens are on earth. Rather he made an accusation and accusations are plenty enough to warrant an investigation. Just imagine if every police report filing ended up with the policemen telling you that "you didn't bring evidence therefore you're full of it". The problem here is that you forget that Grusch said that his evidence is classified so he can't legally show this evidence to members of Congress who aren't cleared to see it. But people like Marco Rubio, who is a member of the gang of 8 did confirm that some of the first hand witnesses that Grusch encountered did come to him to make similar claims. Even if they're all lying, doesn't that pick your interest that so many high ranking government officials could just be crazy? Rubio also confirmed that Grusch did give his proofs to the current Inspector General of the Intelligence Community and that same ICIG found Grusch's complaint "urgent and credible". And even if there's no direct evidence, the facts around it should at least trigger your curiosity : - An amendment was put into law recently by Senator Chuck Schumer (also gang of 8) to force intelligence agencies to give any potential non human intelligence materials that they recovered to a committee that will decide to release it or not. There is even a timeline of release of this information, if it's real, before the end of next year. - Grusch lawyer was the previous ICIG, who was in charge of overseeing and making accountable the whole intelligence community. Why would he put his career at risk for a guy like Grusch? - There is some scientific scrutiny around this UAP stuff through scientific organization like the Sol Foundation run by prominent scientists like Garry Nolan who studied the effects UFOs had on military personnel who were exposed to it. So I don't think you can just throw all of this out by saying that's not worth people's attention when there's so much going on recently about the subject. I know people must be harassing you a lot about this subject lol but you were really disingenuous about this it and you really showed that you didn't take time to learn about what's in the background and the context of this whole case before trying to patronize the whole UFO community. I mean we'll see in a few months anyways since now we do have actual disclosure timeline :v
The only "hard" evidence they've provided are those concrete alien sculptures. See, it's "hard" evidence because concrete is hard. If you think I'm overexplaining this joke, it's because apparently being made of concrete isn't enough to get some people to realize they're fake, unless you spell it out for them.
Buddy, that was disproven in 2017. That was also not a government, that was a random Mexican who managed to get an official hearing on a subject that was already proven wrong. The moment that came out again most people had already seen it years ago. The Mexican alien honestly has nothing to do with anything else. It actually bothers me that's the thing that got traction and not the UFO video uploaded from the middle east the same week..
You do know the "alien mummies" are currently being analyzed by doctors in the US and have yet to be proven fake? In fact, the initial analysis has been quite shocking and does not point to a hoax. This includes a publicly available analysis of the DNA, which has also proven to be anomalous. You can see the DNA results for yourself.
What if they're not carbon based life, but instead Portland cement based life? What if they came here to investigate the urban legend we've been grinding up their people for decades and using them to make concrete?
So far, in my limited anecdotal experiences, most people seem to be indifferent or uninterested in 'UFO' sightings and 'aliens' visiting earth. I think, in part, because almost all of the big space missions since the 90's have been about, at least in part, looking for signs of life beyond planet earth. All of the martian rovers, in their own ways, have sought out evidence of life on mars. Hell even the Voyager missions included the golden record in the optimistic hope sentient life may one day find it and seek us out. Add to that a more than healthy skepticism bred by years of online misinformation campaigns and so on, and it's hardly a surprise that most people are indifferent to mexican alien corpse hoaxes and unclassified government files with blurry pictures and lots and lots of hearsay and anecdotes. Wait until there is clear, genuine evidence of alien life and then people will care more, I'm sure.
I like this comment. The right amount of skeptisism without immediate dismissal. The UFO community hated the Mexico one because it really made a joke out of the real hearing with Grush. There are many verifiable people with verifiable credentials with corroborating stories. If you dive into that you will understand. You will be viewed as crazy by everyone you know but I'd rather be broken from an illusion than brainwashed to believe it is all fake.
It doesn't matter what the evidence is, if "their inner world" can't accept it. Even if the aliens come and make a diplomatic relationship with Earth most people would think "that's just another government hoax". Unless the aliens start war with us most people would not believe it. If someone can't explain something to their "inner world" it just doesn't exist... it's just like COVID 19, 60% of people I know think COVID is a hoax, the same is with the aliens, people would not believe anything they can't explain to themselves in simple terms, especially if that thing is terrifying to their "inner world". About my view of aliens, if we exist aliens also exist, there is not question of "if", the question is "when" we meet them and at what terms.
There is clear proof that aliens exist, there Quintilians & billion upon trillions of stars.. imagine that number for planets. It’s just none to no alien life has traveled here and we’ve not looked at every solar system yet with the James Webb telescope, so we don’t know exactly where there is life or very very VERY possibly maybe, someone is creating another ‘wow’ signal when we finally detect them or some bs. Who knows, but no space fairing species surpasses us, ether on par or not at all.
Evidence that life can exist on a planet, as we define it. Yes. But not much else. Space is big so it wouldn't be weird if humanity never meets a species from a different planet. And the claims that we are aliens is based on concepts so vauage and shakey that it's basically fantasy sci-fi. Fiction based on very human concepts of the life, with a loose grasp of science.
I always find it amazing that when it comes to supernatural phenomena, people are more likely to believe in the most ridiculous theories or evidence, but will immediately disregard the most obvious and simple explanations. It's as if their brain was telling them "NO, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING MORE TO THIS THAN THAT !"
No, no there IS only one answer to that and we’re not alone but we have sure as hell not have met E.T. On his wee hover bike from GTA V. K, also that ‘saying’ you’ve shared, is not only outta date but has attempted to be philosophical, when it’s not & have more understanding, than it actually does. Not a great quote.
I disagree. I find the thought of us being alone in the universe MUCH more terrifying than that of a universe filled with life-covered planets, of which Earth is only one.
@@darthgorbag okay, your entitled to think ‘your’ alone in the observable universe but the sad fact is, your/we’re all not. Think about this, even if we’re alone in this very second, the light that’s traveled to us from other stars, are over (light) years upon years of travel distance and still going, the transfer distance of that visual data we receive to our eyes, will show early stages of the universe and in some places, more recent events. The most likelihood of scenarios right now, is that when your looking at any star in the night time sky, there’s a high chance of their something was/is/or will be there, life-wise. That’s, an eventuality you cannot disagree or escape from, because we’re here.
@@albopicklemcnicol1682You've just proved Kyle's point. You made a statement, claiming it to be factual, yet you have absolutely no evidence to back it up. Zero, zilch, nothing. The 'probability' that we are not the only life in the Universe is high, but that is not the same thing. As a scientist and a successful author, I'd say Arthur C Clarke was as qualified as anybody to make a philosophical statement, but as this was only a statement of his personal viewpoint, there is nothing wrong with it, no matter how old it is. Personally, I agree with his sentiment.
The footage of ufos doing fantastic aerial moves was amazing to me. I didn't see how current tech could do them. Then I saw footage of an experimental rocket powered strike plane made by Germany in WWII. It did equally stunning maneuvers. The ufo footage was a lot less physics defying after that.
Especially, when the object itself doesn't have to move in any fantastic way. A gimbal mounted camera, suddenly reversing direction, with little in the background to give correct context, is all that is needed to "turn the pilot into a ketchup pack".
At least the things you saw were actually showing movement, unlike the morons that saw a blimp and started claiming "aliens". I still don't know if was just a lack of knowledge/exposure or the paranoia at the beginning of the pandemic?
Yeah, camera wobble alone will very easily create most of those same visual artifacts - but it's true that missiles and drones that don't have people in them can also pull some pretty crazy jigs.
what makes your video the same as the UFO community enthusiasts , is that you share your opinion stating something that IS based on your opinion, and not saying it's just that, 6:50 is your point of view, what Grush produced is a step forward, what you do is a step back, you know he can´t really disclose the information, but the congress can go after it, and the step forward is to seek legally that information, what you are doing is taking the step back. And after all take this into consideration, how is it that in a court of law a witness is a witness, sworn and his testimony is take in in account , and a case can be won based on a testimony? but in your opinion this is not valid because of the way that legally he can't disclose other than what was authorized, how is that different? , 14:31 it is not the community or making the government look bad and a super cover up, you are misleading the information . You want real tangible proof check out the declassified CIA documents , there are various already released documents one in particular14755 has some key elements, and it's government released information, that is the step forward. There is no hoax, no cover up, no magic voodo theory , but your opinion is no different than a UFO enthusiast , you haven't the knowledge nor the proof to dismiss something, they haven't the knowledge nor the proof to admit something, the point in the middle is legal way, you should support that instead of walking three step backs.
Actually, over a hundred years ago "The Machine Stops" tells a tale set in a civilization with an internet, where people do their socializing remotely in special interest groups. It was imaginative talk, but not inconceivable.
@@roberttaylor2058 people didn't always think it was possible for humans to fly or go to space. Someone had to work out how gravity, inertia, and thermodynamics work, we didn't always know about atoms, black holes, or dark matter, etc. Everything is mysterious and unexplained until someone discovers the explanation.
@@666theninja Do they now? Where is your evidence for that. Science guy and reasonable people follow the evidence not claims. You seem to have the images at hand so please share them or did you just make it up and called someone else out for not believing your fantasy?
@@izaruburs9389 Dozens of people in and out of government and the military have testified to the type of evidence you're talking about in government possession.
Again, missing the point entirely. Have you even bothered to actually watch the video? Or did you just casually listen to it as background noise while playing online or something? One thing we _all_ know is that there isn't only one government on Earth, not even only one with advanced tech to survey air and space. There is no worldwide consensus or collusion between those governments, some of which being actively and constantly hostile to the USA. What would be _their_ incentives to not stomp the US by releasing information on those supposed alien visitations? Do you think Russia and China care about what the US decides to keep from their populous? Actually, they would take _any_ major chance to destabilize the US government, and keeping such a secret would certainly be one. The truth is, people are generally ignorant of basic optics, so when they use the camera sensors they now have in their pockets or backpacks, they can't tell the difference between a genuine UAP and a well known glitch, optical artefact, or just about any atmospheric phenomenon or misinterpreted infrared reading. The same shit applies to the proverbial mark one eye balls by the way. There's a boatload of well known optical illusions and mistakes people constantly fall for, simply because they never bothered to learn that stuff, often for very basic and understandable reasons (it's particularly time consuming, and often times quite boring). What's fascinating however, is how people can come up with all those kinds of shitty convoluted 'conspiracies', while disregarding if not actively denying the very obvious, very real conspiracies happening right about now and in the recent past, right before their eyes.
Unfortunately you can't prove a negative. No matter how much information the government releases, if it doesn't include solid tangible proof of aliens then people will continue claiming that they just haven't released everything. If they simply don't have any evidence of aliens (which is by far the most likely scenario), then there is absolutely nothing they can do to convince you of that fact. Its on each denier to individually decide to trust them at some point and there will always be people who will never reach that point.
@@izaruburs9389we've accumulated a mountain of evidence that proves it. The RU-vid comment section has its limitations but I'd be happy to share it on Discord.
I agree with the skepticism, but you didn't explain why you think the chances of aliens visiting earth is near zero. Even without any fictional light speed engines, I think it is quite possible for an advanced species to conquer interstellar travel given enough time. If their home world had lower gravity than earth, they would also have a much easier time getting large spacecraft off the surface.
There's a lot that Kyle glossed over, this being one of the things he started the video with. Another was not realizing how confidential and compartmentalized information works in the government and what Edward Snowden and what Mr. Grush did are opposite poles of each other. Snowden violated many laws to get his info to the public but had to leave his life behind and start a new because of his choice. Grush didn't want to go that route and went ahead with an authorized release of information for public use and then another set for secret private hearings for sensitive info that hasn't been declassified yet. He doesn't want to ruin his life over this like Snowden did, yet even doing it the "right" way he ended being a target of harassment by his former superiors. And let's not forget the list of international operatives that got their cover blown by Snowdens release of information. Clearly Grush knew he would potentially blow opsec out the window if he went Snowdens' route, something he clearly did not want to do.
@@cybr1d6 not really, I'd even argue it's more likely that Sol-3 was terraformed and seeded. Even if life was common across the universe, super intelligent life isn't, and nurturing it would be desirable in certain scenarios. The existence of _pelagibacter ubique_ already suggests this with its streamlined genome and peculiar adenine and thymine chains. When science has failed to explain the evolutionary path of the most common organism on this planet it might be time to think outside the box and consider the possibility that it didn't evolve - it was genetically engineered. The literal mountain of evidence and testimonies by witnesses, whistleblowers, experts, recordings, videos, researched encounters and events, radar signatures and collected data all point towards one logical conclusion: *_We were never alone._*
It's not so much the "can" they get here, it's more "with how many possible destinations there are, the chances we would be one of them is practically zero"
fighter pilot: with many year of experience sees object break laws of physics, and record it on its instruments....fake science youtuber: it was a balloon because science.... oh yes lets believe him because science
8:56 heres my take on this, i dont necessarily disagree with you; but i feel like these cases are still worth explaining to see whats actually behind the curtains. Yes a lot of the times you will get boriing explanations, like weather balloons and whatnot, but a great degree of these things still have yet to be explained, which causes distrust in the scientific community. You could take a "mythbusters" style approach to these sorts of things, and it could prove to be a great scientific learning opportunity for not only the "victims" but the world as a whole. I think the act of ignoring these sorts of things is what helps them spread in the first place.
8:40 you Lost me when you cited a debunked sceptic as evidence why the UFO videos aren't real. REAL scientists and even some creators of the technologies used in the military equipment have publicly stated that Mick's "debunking" is BS and misunderstanding of how things work. You then instantly started mocking people while providing ZERO evidence for your claims as well? Either a lazy video with no effort since you just made fun of things, or worse...
I've always said that if you don't believe in aliens, you don't understand the size of space. If you believe aliens come to visit us, you don't understand the size of space.
And you claim to know all future technologies. Also have you not heard of Von numan probes and things like that You have to be pretty unimaginative to think there is no way to get here
I like that. And maybe one truly can't understand the full size of space, but my hope is that there is a doable way to travel at speeds / or "warp" space to travel faster than light. Right now, I think it's too early for us to say it's impossible. Still a lot of things we don't know yet and despite our knowledge now, what we don't know far exceeds what we do, so we have much learning still to go overall in advancements. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), we're one of the early birds to all of the space travel and even idea of the engine itself and electricity. In all the time humanity has to learn with what we have, it's only been a few generations or so really. Imagine where we'd be in 3023, a thousand years later. I think we'd have figured a thing or two out more by then. It's just unfortunately that we will likely not be among that generation or beyond, if we even make it that far. But I believe in ingenuity and pushing the boundary. Rockets didn't come overnight, they took thousands, hundreds of thousands of years of humanity to get there, and it could take thousands more to break through this next roadblock, but I feel like if we are the only life in the universe somehow, then we have a heavy burden to carry, and I would feel it would be imperative for humans to consider interstellar space travel to ensure the survival of us beyond our planet and someone to tell the tale of Earth and pass it down in legend some billions of years from now in a different solar system with a much friendlier and longer lasting star.
@@Jason-gq8fothe problem is faster than light isn't a technology problem. It's not like heaver than air flying or faster than sound. Our best understanding is it's a fundamental feature of the universe. No amount of future technology would change that. Even theoretical ideas like wormhole or warp drives end up needing infinite or negative energy. Worse of you could you can break causality. The only option seems to be patience. An AI might not care about a decades long trip, Von Neumann probes, generation ships or some sort of hibernation seem like the only viable choices.
If government suddenly starts to talk about exraterrestrial intelligence, one should first ask onerself - "What don't they want you to think about here, on earth ? What do they try to hide ?"
@@Jason-gq8fo What propaganda? The only difference is the media is taking UFO talks seriously when they claimed it was false years prior Both are propaganda puff pieces not just the ones who tell you not to believe in UFOs
“Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us,” - Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes
The problem with you discounting the Navy fighter pilot videos, is that the pilots themselves also visually saw these objects. And saw them behave the way they described. It's not just video noise. Like if it was, the pilots themselves wouldn't actually be seeing the things with their own eyeballs. They also have radar data too. The military first spotted them on radar, (apparently from the aircraft carrier?) and the pilots were sent to check out the bogey on the radar. Like, if you have something that you can see on radar, you can see on video and sensor data, and the pilots themselves physically see them with their eyes: that's pretty hard to just dismiss. There's also the case in the town in Texas where hundreds of people saw the lights, and then they were able to find radar data corroborating what people saw. Like we're getting to the point with advanced radar, cameras, etc, where it's not just shaky cam video, or someone claiming they saw something. We're now at the point where some of these instances are backed up by multiple data, including credible witnesses (like military officers, and people with current security clearances), cameras, IR, and radar. All in a single incident. That's not just something that can just be dismissed. And then say, "well we know everything there is about physics so that just can't be." You can't just claim that people didn't see something that "breaks the laws of physics", because that presumes that our current understanding of physics is complete. When the reality is that we are far from fully understanding physics. The deeper we go into quantum physics the more we find that there's a lot going on that we don't fully understand. Humans always like to think we "have a good bead on things", until every few decades we make some major discovery that totally upends our previous assumptions. It's probably not a good idea to think we know all there is about physics. Science isn't about trying to make the data fit our currently held worldview. It's about adjusting our worldview to fit the data. And if these sightings keep happening with good sensor data and multiple data points to back them up: we will simply have to adjust our understandings of what is possible. If the accumulation of data ends up showing that there are objects capable of performing maneuvers that our currently held understanding of physics says is impossible: then our currently held understanding of physics is simply wrong. Or is incomplete.
I'm stealing this one. Absolutely correct. "Science isn't about making the data fit our currently held views: it's about adjusting our views to fit the data."
Your comment needs more likes. I struggled to put my opinion of this video into words, but you nailed it. Is this video simply not just the reverse of what he's saying is wrong in the first place? Jumping to conclusions and selectively choosing to accept, or in Kyle's case, omit evidence that is vital to a bigger picture to support a sided claim? I find it quite hypocritical.
Great reply, agree with others baffled you do not have more likes. So naive we are to think current science is all there is to know & ever will be. 15th century scientists probably had the same attitude..
Its quite sad that UFO used to mean “something in the sky that we haven’t positively identified yet” and now means “aliens”. We used to make fun of people who jumped to that conclusion, ironically not realizing that if it was identified as an alien it would no longer be a UFO… just an FO.
Wrong. UFO has always meant flying saucers from outer space. UFOs, UAPs, and flying saucers are words that mean the same thing just like crippled, handicapped, disabled. Words evolve to reflect the political sensibilities of the moment but we all know what the subject matter is and it's not weather balloons and swamp gas.
And not to mention Sci-fi has massively twisted our expectations about alien life. Faster-than-light travel is always a given, while in reality it's essentially impossible. On the other hand, other technologies seemigly more advanced, such as terraforming the entire solar system and creating a dyson sphere and ringworlds are actually possible, with our current understanding. A civilization that has discovered FTL would be so unfathomably advanced to be literally beyond our understanding. They would definitely not be sending little tictacs to troll our airplanes
Scientist: “Because I don’t know what this is, I can’t comment on its origins.” Public: “Because scientists don’t know what this is, it must be alien in origin.”
@@connorhart7597David Grusch filed a complaint under the Whistleblower Act. The US Inspector General investigated and interviewed both Grusch and people who allegedly work on these classified programs (all under oath) and looked at the evidence submitted. The US Inspector General then deemed Grusch’s claims credible and there is still an investigation ongoing. Grusch isn’t some random guy.
@jeremyg591 so why no evidence? Idc what they say, and I'm willing to bet that's not how the USIG worded it. More along the lines of "we can't keep you from lying, you just can't say classified shit" and now this guy got fame out of it and is always gonna be known as one of the millions of people who cried "ALIEEENNNNS" without any evidence or proof of any kind. "I have plenty of hearsay and conjecture, those are KINDS of evidence, right?" -Lionel Hutz
@@Hestonio actual physical evidence and documentation was submitted to the US Inspector General, who deemed it all credible and there is still an ongoing investigation. He also interviewed (like I said) people pointed out by Grusch who apparently have worked and do work on these secret programs who he also interviewed under oath. This isn’t anecdotal ;) You’d know that if you researched the story yourself
I mean the guy giving away classified information before congress in public view would be illegal. The federal government threatens you with a life sentence in prison under military law if you do not comply. They have you sign in acknowledgment of this before allowing you to view such documents as well. Something else to note is that these people being interviewed were also given private time before Congress after the public hearing to discuss things that would otherwise land them in a jail cell.
The ufo sightings are also great for military testing. How many people saw the Stealth before the Air Force went public withbit thinking it was a UFO. I was stationed at a base with a Stealth and if I didnt know what it was there were times seeing it in flight I would have sworn it was a UFO.
No you would not have thought it was a UFO (in the traditional sense) because you would have seen wings a tail and exhaust. You would not have seen it do mach 20 in a split second or outright break the laws of physics.
@parkerault2607 cringe. Anything moving in a different direction than you think it was moving along will appear to have a very different apparent speed to your eyes.
I thought watching this video i would gain an interesting perspective on the information given to us. Instead i got a video just trying to discredit 3 or 4 things from someone who clearly is a skeptic. Im open to things and very logical. you discredit the video which is easy to do on its own. However, you fail to explain how other pilots and RADAR back up the videos of the "anomalies" in question. OR. How billions of dollars worth of equipment, training, tech all seem to malfunction at once to lead to such a dilemma. I can get over the video. I can get over that maybe multiple Military Pilots who were trained to identify aircraft some how were mistaken.. Its a little rough for me to get over Radar though.. its even rougher to get over radar corroborating the evidence shown. but, what i cant get over is... ALL of it at ONCE. Our best Tech cant seem to identify or even keep up with it in a video, pilots mis-identifying craft and saying it jumped 15+miles away, THEN our radar time stamps are saying it, as well as other Airforce personnel. Video evidence, eye witness, radar timestamps.. In a case of the court of law. Open and Shut. What more is needed? do the aliens need to land on the Whitehouse lawn and through a press conference showing their ID? The ball switches sides of the court. and right now, the ball is on the side of aliens... unless someone can explain somewhat reasonably how all these things managed to happen All at once then i have to say, "its Aliens." (mind you, there are multiple videos of ufo's released by the military that have eyewitness/video/testimonies/radar)
As I recall the Navy Tic Tac video (in which the object mirrored the spiral movement of the pilot's plane) was corroborated by ship's radar. These are not all instrument distortions and swamp gas. Yes let's be skeptical and not assume the origin of UAPs, but to dismiss evidence out of hand because it doesn't fit our current understanding is equally unscientific.
yeah but look what a shit show he has going in this video. dont try and talk to people about that even we know these strange encounters happened. its just a weather ballon, like the past 70 years…….
I disagree with the assertion that everyone was kind of like "yeah aliens are real we been knew". I think it was more "okay, aliens might be real, you didn't provide any hard evidence, so time to move on there's other shit to worry about"
Your disagreeance is naive. The average person is a moron, of course they thought "yeah aliens are real we been knew". They probably think more stupid stuff than that, too.
Ask around more. The majority of people who are aware at all that the congressional hearing happened believe there’s real evidence of aliens. And even for those who aren’t religiously “believers”, it often requires doing what Kyle does in this video to point out to them that no - that was not proof of aliens. The world did not change like they think it did. It would have been/will be a MUCH bigger deal if/when real evidence arises or real contact actually occurs. Props to Grusch on his campaign to make people believe.. he’s been really successful. But it’s been by muddying waters and tactics that mislead people more than doing anything close to sharing accurate information 😒
8:40 The "gimball weirdness" was completely disproven by an expert on the exact FLIR system that was used meaning the object did actually rotate in the air whatever the object might be It's great to be a skeptic but don't close your mind so much your research falls off
Yep. I use hybrid fusion systems (NVG & FLIR) enhanced vision systems daily. This is not gimbal weirdness, nor does the host of the experience to assess the information accurately proving or disproving the evidence.
So you think the UAP pentagon videos have been debunked 😂😂😂. I find it hilarious that everyone that tries to debunk these videos never consider all of the data even though they claim to be scientifically thorough. What about all the military personnel that witnessed these objects literally up close, what about the two carrier ships that recorded this object on radar, the whole reason they weren’t sent out to investigate 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️. Stop being hypocritical and consider all of the data don’t just cherry pick what makes you look correct.
I was watching this video in good faith in the hopes that that data would be presented in good faith, but unfortunately I don't think it was. Although I agree the way you presented it could be compelling to those who want to confirm their bias that none of it is real, there are several things left out - not sure if that was intentional or not. Grusch, if he had first hand knowledge, would have had to sign an NDA ensuring he could not speak about it and it was his secondhand knowledge in his official capacity to investigate that allowed him to speak in an open forum about it. Although I agree that dilutes the legitimacy when compared to firsthand witnesses and the people who have allegedly worked on the craft, he also testified that there have been instances in which people were harmed when trying to reveal information. All that being said - lets say we don't include the Grusch testimony at all... there's still plenty of things to discuss. The US Government intentionally obfuscates their data prior to public release to ensure that adversaries are unclear of our capabilities. The other two witnesses did in fact have firsthand experiences, and a congressman who serves on the armed services committee during that hearing spoke of a photo taken by one of our airmen with the ATFLIR camera of craft that he's never seen before. The radar data from the Nimitz showed the object they were following (the tictac) went 60 miles in 5 seconds. Even if you don't include the fact that the sound barrier wasn't broken, we do not have the technology to do that and the G forces involved in that acceleration would not be compatible with life inside the craft by our current means of propulsion. I also used to be incredibly skeptical about all this and I too wish there were better data so that we could stop trying to discern whether it were real or not and move forward. There are too many data points pointing to the fact that SOMETHING is going on here; the capabilities these craft have is not something known to the public and if widely available could have world changing implications. Because of the lack of widely available robust reproducible data we cannot be certain one way or the other, but the data we DO have show that there's something happening we don't have a full understanding of. It would be highly unlikely that there would be a branch of physics that is unknown to the best scientists on the planet without having poached the brightest minds over the last several decades to further that research. When I talk about this topic I usually liken it to wading through an ocean of bullshit to find a pearl of truth because of the decades of disinformation and ridicule about the topic but the deeper down the rabbit hole you go there are data that can't be ignored. I think the July hearing was just everything coming to a head, and I'm hopeful that the NDAA being passed with the Schumer amendment gets us closer to the truth of what's going on, whether its something fantastical like alien visitation or something more prosaic like advanced terrestrial drone technology that has been hidden from the world.
Well said, & thank you. I too was skeptical & would chuckle when anything to do with the subject was mentioned, until recently. The Pilot accounts made me take more notice & look deeper. I have seen a few skeptical bias videos like this that covered the UFO hearings & it seems many have all the usual cliche debunking points to raise & its apparent they lacked the patience to view or absorb the entire proceeding. For me the incident that Rep Matt Gaetz was describing was one of the most surprising testimonies & he wasnt even a witness! here is a congressman talking about what he was given access to, but the other reps were denied due to their lower clearance. If what he described is true, which its huge question in itself, ie what does he have to gain or lose by lying about this? , even more interesting to me than the actual witness accounts, is the lengths the military command go to , to cover up & hide the truth, whatever that is? Stay skeptical but keep an open mind & never ridicule people for speaking their experiences. Truth is stranger than fiction! The science of today will probably be proved wrong tomorrow. Impossibles will become possible. "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." - Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. Science got better only 8 years later :)
I have to agree with you that most people lack the patience to comb through the overwhelming amount of data - and as I said some of it is, in fact, bullshit. Some people are snake oil salesmen. Some are liars. Some are intentionally obfuscating in an attempt to distract. I do think that the more firm data we have point to the fact that there's something going on here, and I wish that people would stop wasting time trying to debunk but I see that people find monetary value in that too (this video has 282k views, its a hot topic right now!) In general, we're wasting a lot of time and energy getting into arguments online as to whether things are even real in the first place - and even if we had concrete evidence - even then some people wouldn't believe it... we have flat earthers for God's sake. I just wish we had more data available to the public so we could stop wasting time on all that and get to the bottom of it. We as a species deserve to know the truth about all of this.
Years ago I saw a small white blob in the sky,it seemed to dance around in the sky.When I got exited I knocked my polariod sun glasses loose from my foehead to my nose and the UFO turned into a Cesna,it was like magic.
Obviously the aliens used a cloaking device that relies on polarized light. When your glasses got knocked off you saw the cloaking device in action and not the ship it hid... Yep, yep, yep. That's how it was and now you can spread this to all the rational people who sees the truth.... Anyone know where I buy aluminium foil in bulk?
CoolWorlds did a video warning against shutting down ideas with little reason to do so other than 'It's not true because science.' He also warned against easily accepting ideas because 'It's what I already believe.' It was a good video.
The best takeaway I got from that video is that saying "no, they don't exist" just because evidence is not yet present and that we are a special breed is kind of being too egoistic. It's better to say "I don't know" because the lack of evidence for something doesn't necessarily mean it does not exist, we just don't know yet if it does or does not. Saying they don't exist flat out is counterproductive to how science goes, because they're already concluding something without actually completing the scientific method. There's no evidence they don't exist, so how can one conclude they don't. At the same time, although there are "evidence" of their existence, it's not really that credible and are not peer-reviewed, so we also can't say they exist-hence the "we don't know"
That's David Kipping's channel right? He also has a lecture where he points out that many popular scientists and science communicators are getting ahead of themselves when they claim that "surely there's life out there, just look at the number of planets and stars and galaxies", just like Kyle at the very beginning of this video. The number of habitable environments for life makes no difference when we simply don't have the slightest clue what the probability for life is with our grand sample size of 1. It really could be the chance of winning in the lottery to the power of googolplex. So the best answer, the only reasonable answer for a scientifically minded person is "I don't know", no matter how much we want to believe. Safe to say Kipping is one of the most level headed pop sci communicators out there, and I respect him immensely!
@@jhonhdhcb7495 It's the job of all science communicators to dismiss pseudoscience nonsense. UAPs are pseudoscience, there will always be phenomenon that is unidentifiable because it's too far away. See the Moon 'Mystery Hut' for an example. On closer examination it was just a rock. Charlatans are taking advantage of the ephemeral nature of UAPs to sell you a story.
@@jhonhdhcb7495which video? kyle's or the one being referenced? Because if you think Kyle is being anti-science you didn't watch the same video I did....
Aliens will alawys be one of the last things I would think of when I see something in the sky I can't identify. The only things less believable to me than aliens visiting Earth as an explanation for weird things in the sky would be anything spiritual such as ghosts, angels, or gods.
i predict within the next 100 years we will find extraterrestrial life within our solar system. There are over 160 moons and planets in our own solar system
Grusch is a legal whistleblower. He only shares what he's allowed to. Whether his information is genuine or not is separate from the fact that he is not EVER going to be the one to blow the lid on things.
Hes not a whistleblower, like.. by catagorical defintion. A whistlerblower is someone who provides evidence of internal-problems theyre involved with. Grusch hasn't been involved in any level of federal oversight, and even if he was, he wouldn't be classified, whistlerblowers deny classified documents their secrets, thats what they do.. thats the "whistle" the blow.
@@TheKiroshi If you follow his testimony at all, he was put into an oversight position with the specific purpose of coagulating information from various compartmentalized programs. While the public aspect of his information remains second hand, it's not as if he's some random grunt talking about some rumor he heard on base.
@EB-qb1vl -- Question; do you know what a lie is? He was never put into this position, his testimony was faked, hes not under any oath because he appealed to the related whistleblower laws, so he could gain attention. He never held a position where he had to collect any info related to aliens. Its not "aspects of" its literally a hoax, he IS a random grunt because for the last 20 years, hes done nothing but his ancient aliens shtick. Just because it previously had a federal position a decade ago, doesn't discount him from being a gifter and liar. His entire statement was "the goverment is hiding evidence of aliens; yes, i do have proof; no i can't share proof cuz its classified; what law of classification? Thats classified.. why am i a whistleblower if i dont share the info? Because aliens invade earth, yes i have proof, but its classified" (unironically repeated for 2 hours). All hes trying to do is sell another book to insane conspiracy theorists, if the goverment had evidence, the scientific community would lose their shit and demand to study it. And it would be in their best interests to release that info because *ACTUAL* alien material could teach us about possible medical issues and give whomever has that material so much power on the world stage.
@@EB-73- His reputation still doesn't erase the fact that he brought nothing to show for it, ala your 'legal whistleblower' comment. With the US public's general perception of its own congress being generally negative, testimonies before it dont mean a lot without something more than "i read a report about _"
@@BinkoBunko Legally speaking he's laid his career, and his freedom, on the line. Ofc it remains to be seen to what end. It's very possible he is in counter intelligence or something of the sort, for sure. However, the fact that he was willing to come forward in the capacity he has, is proof enough that there is some sort of underlying circumstance. Whether these UFOs and the crash retrieval program is real or not, he wants you to believe it is, and he's willing to lay everything on the line if it comes out that his story was entirely made up. I don't understand what the issue here is. His testimony has quite obviously garnered massive amounts of interest in the topic. In essence, cracking the topic wide open for serious discussion. The only reason (supposedly) that more information hasn't been released is because they have yet to gain the proper clearance. Could he break that law? Sure. But then he'd be going to jail whether right or wrong which totally defeats the purpose of the legal avenues that were recently created which the Congress is currently in the process of navigating through for the very first time. Cut the guy some slack, or go bust down the doors to A-51 yourself.
This video spends the first 8:30 bemoaning the lack of physical evidence and how relying on experts, like Gruch, is a very bad idea. Then when the video gets to the actual physical evidence, were told to ignore it because someone who made video games said it has to be something -- anything -- else. After that *-single-* sentence dismissing (not disproving) the physical evidence, it is right back to whinging about there being no physical evidence and more ad hominem attacks, this time agaisnt someone else. 🤦 Regardless of your thoughts on the alien question, this video is an embarrassment. Kyle, as someone who proclaimed to be a science communicator, you ought to be ashamed of this one.
Given that radar is a little screwy at it's best and not at all an accurate way to identify a target unless you know everything that might be in the area and a lot of details about the target anyways, I wouldnt count a radar blip as evidence... ever. And uh, people lie, and misinform, and believe things irrationally based on nothing. I wouldnt trust one of those... ever, for any reason.
While I don’t really pick a side of the fence to side with, I still don’t really see how we arrived at a full outright dismissal. While I agree that the US Navy’s video evidence is grainy and blurry I feel it has more than likely had the resolution of the video reduced because this equipment is US military equipment, they are not going to show the world exactly what they are working with and making it appear reasonably primitive by a technological basis makes sense in protecting the true capabilities of the equipment in use and I make this point because even the HUD elements of these videos are also blurry, as apposed to being more crisp like one would expect. Now sure we can say they are just misidentified objects, it does happen after all, but we are talking about the US Military here, the same military that was able to detect, track and then hit a guy through the roof of his car with a missile that uses swords instead of explosives. Now if they can be that crazy precise on a tiny ground target I’m fairly confident they could distinguish a passenger aircraft or exhaust from another aircraft from something they cannot explain, sure if it was the Russian military releasing these videos I’d be more on the dismissal train because they shoot each other down all the time but the US Military I just don’t see it being so open and shut.
I think you're giving the military too much credit here. They have a ridiculous amount of funding, yes, so the things they're capable of when properly using that funding are immense, but such quality is not homogenous, and given the many, many mistakes they themselves admit to, never mind the ones they don't, and the fact they're ultimately just people too, who can be lazy, stupid, tired and gulible, them failing to properly analyse stuff is so more likely than that the stuff they tried to analyse is alien.
@@MalloonTarka Negativity bias exists with government operations. You hear only the mistakes because theyre obligated to report them when someone doesnt come home, someone is incorrectly killed, etc.. You dont hear about the successes because they dont need to tell you. These people have years of experience operating this machinery and are taught how to identify targets that enter screen.
Nah man Kyle's right, clearly all those trained pilots just didn't know how to use the equipment and were too stupid to know the diference between an airline heat signature and something they'd never seen before /s
Even if someone is something like a high ranking officer, with medals galore, then they still have a thing in common with any one else claiming something extraordinary: the fallible brain.
Yeah and also I hate when people say "He is a fighter pilot with 20 years of experience is IMPOSSIBLE that he made a mistake, so he saw and alien ship, there is not other explanation". And I am like, sure about that? So he became a machine? She is still human, and as a human he is not evolve to calculate things in the sky, there is a reason why the equipment is in the plane, and also even the Pros no matter what they do, they can make mistakes, is a human thing. (And it does not help wen the equipment in the plane is so low quality that can be literally anything)
@@FranciscoIannelloprecisely - fighter pilots are experts in the birds they fly, and the capabilities of the weapons they know about, that are aiming at them. Otherwise they are just as ignorant as the rest of us in fields even tangentially outside their expertise. Just because a fighter pilot can estimate the arc of a ballistic missile requiring intercept, doesn't mean they can sink a 3-pointer on a basketball court. Even though the science behind both a Minuteman missile and a basketball is the same.
He was not a high ranking officer 😂 He was a Navy Lieutenant, which is the highest rank you can get without leadership approving you for promotion. And most military medals are a joke. - 20 year vet
@@FranciscoIannello Isn't it convenient that the one time you don't want the person you literally most trust to see things that it's okay not to believe them? Also we just need to ignore the radar operators and the other fighter pilots who are saying the same thing. Nope. This one was a whoopsie. What's my evidence? Oh ya know? Sometimes people make mistakes. Infallible logic.
Kyle Hill is clearly an example of the shortcomings and dangers of hyper-linear thinking. The "science" system he espouses obviously has its merits, but it also has its shortcomings. The data he presents is either cherry picked or he is making a video about a subject he is ignorant on. Grusch doesn't want to live in Russia as an enemy of the state, that is why he only agreed to divulge smoking guns in a SKIF. By focusing on the issues (though possibly valid in some cases) with the examples he brought forward he is ignoring a preponderance of evidence that has effected significant proportions of the population throughout human history. Any reasonable and objective human who was aware of the this evidence would conclude that aliens or something is visiting earth. While much of the evidence supporting the existence of alines on earth can be explained away to balloons or other common objects, there is a significant portion that cannot be explained away. Kyle is clearly not objective. This is less a danger when it comes to believing in aliens. But it is a danger when it comes to something that effects health.
If Grusch won't present smoking gun evidence outside of a SCIF, then how do you know that evidence exists? A preponderance of evidence is a very low standard (I'm guessing you don't know what that actually means). Not even close to enough evidence to conclude something as earth shattering as alien visitation.
Agreed, not to mention he attacks the character of Avi Loeb supposedly entertaining "unscientific ideas" with his millions in funding, But doesn't go into specifics, just uses anecdotes. People fail to realise many intelligent, and heavily logic focused people have had experiences with this phenomena, it needs addressing even if you don't believe in the extra terrestrial hypothesis.
THIS! The evidence is overwhelming, he is either willingly manipulating his audience or ignorant. Lots of 'scientists' are going to be exposed in the coming years as dogmatic people with very little capability of critical thinking. Science has become a religion for the ultra-materialists. They are just parroting what mainstream science accepts as truth and care more about authority than facts.
Thank you for confirming that r/UFO isn’t actually spiralling out of control with paranoia. It’s not like Reddit to spiral out of control, so I was a little worried.
Aknowledging evidence isn't paranoia. People aren't paranoid, you are a denialist. The evidence for non human intelligence making UFOs, sometimes being in them is strong and it proves beyond reasonable doubt that UFOs are real, they are made by non human intelligence and they defy our laws of physics and our current understanding of reality. First and foremost I have in mind the Varginha Brasil case in January 1996, Ariel school Zimbabwe case in 1994 and countless other reports from military pilots and anti aircraft crews on the ground seeing and interacting with these intelligently made UFOs of much greater performances than human fighter jets, UFOs whose movements defy our laws of physics (the nights of the UFOs in Brasil 1986 is just one out of dozens of examples of this). If this goes against your logic it only proves that your logic is wrong. If it goes against your science it proves your science is wrong. The way I explain to people like you is that there is only two possibilities, UFOs are intelligently controlled or they aren't. The behavior that UFOs displayed when David Fravor and his unit was chasing them, as well as when other US military aircrafts, Brasilian, Yugoslavian and many other countries' military aircrafts were chasing them proves that they are intelligently controlled. Nothing without a power source and intelligent control can hover in the air then accelerate to speeds far greater than fastest human jets in the blink of an eye then come to a full stop just as fast. Which brings me to another question. Either they are made by humans or they are made by non human intelligent beings. Their behavior far exceeds anything that human aircrafts can do and their behavior 50 years ago far exceeded what best fighter jets can do now. Therefore, they were made by non human intelligent beings.
And yes, these non humans have killed people in the past. Still, all in all their behavior towards us and other animals doesn't seem much different from our behavior towards other animals. In most encounters they don't seem to even try to hurt us if we don't provoke them first.
When I was in grade school. Something flew over the school during recess. It wasn’t a balloon, helicopter airplane glider etc. It was black and white, disc shaped on the bottom and I couldn’t get a view of the top. There were at least 100 kids and or teachers on the playground at the time. It moved slowly, deliberately, against the wind laterally in two different directions. The school called recess early because of whatever it was. And no one ever spoke of it after that day. Every one is entitled to believe what they like. But when the day comes that YOU see something like this. Your own doubts will come in to question. There is something there. Weather it’s human made or not is a question for another day. But considering the military has pictures of these things from as far back as WW2, you know FooFighters. Hard to find these days but there are day time photographs of FFs flying around bombers. Not just mysterious lights at night.
Dude you are commenting the wrong video. Why don't you go over to your blurfo community instead? Nobody has ever had any pictures nor any actual tangible evidence that couldn't be easily debunked. Everything you guys have, absolutely everything, is anecdotal. No data to support your claims. You are all religious fanatics. That's the whole point Kyle is trying to make but you come here to sound off about your imaginary alien friends.
Tyler Rogoway wrote a great article for "The Warzone" about adversary drones and how the US military doesn't advertise their presence outside naval exercises. They broke down the history of Operation Palladium in which the US military confuses adversary radar and other sensors with drones, radar reflecting balloons, and missiles with electronic warfare payloads that simulate aircraft doing all kinds of crazy maneuvers. This would coax Soviet and Cuban radar operators to use the full extent of their sensor systems, revealing their positions and capabilities. And that the US military has dedicated a lot of resources to obscuring ships and ground force deployments with phantom sensor signals, just as deployed inflatable tanks and speakers to confuse the Germans in WWII. And then Rogoway went over the how modern drones available to our adversaries can do those same Operation Palladium tactics to the US military, using weirdly shaped drones with radar reflectors to make pilots second-guess what they are both seeing and detecting on their sensors. There are even drones and balloons that can deploy smaller drones, and they freely observe naval wargames and build up sensor profiles of our electronic warfare systems. And the sensor packages on these drones can be both cheap and very effective, so it's no great loss if a lot get shot down after successfully profiling and reporting the electronic signatures they detect. Personally, I think that this is the unspoken reason why some Congressmembers get worked up about UFO's. They have to protect American prestige while trying to raise the alarms about how easy it currently is for China and Russia to snoop on military exercises. So the weirdly shaped drones with radar reflectors become "UAPs doing impossible maneuvers", and nobody mentions that the US has a program that does exactly that to adversary electronic warfare sensors.
If you have access to a technology that can alter, generate, create or bend gravity, you can reach distant galaxies within a blink of en eye. That's as SciFi as it can get, but it's in the realm of possibilites for an advanced civilization I'd assume.
@@wihdinheim0 Now imagine a civilization that started 40million prior to us and maybe hadn't to deal with so much war in the past. They probably look at Star Trek as an early attempt to understand space travel😅
One of the reasons so many people have deliberately turned away from science is that they feel it's aloof, seperate, condescending. Science exists as a tool to deconstruct and interpret the natural world we see around us. We aren't talking about chemtrails or flat earth here. The reality is that whether you like it or not this is something that has been experienced by millions, amongst them some of the most trusted professions that exists in our civilisation, pilots. I wish science communicators would stop presenting this subject as something they will look at as a gesture of goodwill, understanding this phenomenon (whatever it is) is the reason science exists as a dicipline.
Who are these millions of people? Lots of people have seen something in the sky and not been able to identify it. Scientists have looked at why people believe they have been abducted by aliens too. Many people used believe they were visited by demons or fairies once but that doesn't mean those were real. Funnily enough people only stated reporting and seeing this stuff after the idea of aliens became popular and in places it was popular. Scientists have been trying to understand these phenomena they just don't think the answer is aliens and that isn't exciting or reported upon.
My thing to take into consideration is time. Look how far humans have come from where we started to where we are at now in such a very very short time in the span of the universe. Now imagine a civilization that has even a 1 billion year headstart on us. if they did survive that long, imagine what they could have / have accomplished.
That still isn't a good reason to believe we are being visited by them. There is no logical foundation based on that reasoning. They could be so far ahead of us and be isolationists and not explore space. That is equally possible without any evidence. The time to believe something is when sufficient, supporting, evidence has been presented.
I'm not sure if this video is properly open minded since it's coming down pretty hard on the idea that UAP contains phenomenon we genuinely don't know anything about... Which is actually the truth: there's UAP that we don't currently have explanations for. Six in total, in fact. I agree with the idea that we shouldn't assume aliens since the whole point of renaming it to phenomenon is to be able to indicate weather events or new science, but the tone of this video is decidedly anti-science for trying to figure out what those phenomenon are. Sure, they're probably not aliens. Although, it's not impossible nor unlikely that Von Neumann probes would be here; in fact, the whole reason The Drake Equation indicates paradox is that we haven't seen any despite plenty of time for them to be here. It's strange that we're not seeing alien spacecraft despite the fact that the math indicates they should've prevented us from existing. Then again, the fact that we exist means there probably aren't any. So, yeah, the UAP are probably not aliens and are instead something FAR more exciting: NEW SCIENCE Oh, speaking of Avi Loeb the actual experiments he got funded with his "alien" funding shtick are actually pretty fucking exciting in their own right. Recovering meteors from the ocean's floor to explore the chemistry of them and try to map where they came from in order to construct prediction models for recalculating the solar system's origin is... Simply good science because it hints at new science. So, I wouldn't be too harsh on a scientist just trying to get funding for these shot in the dark goose chases, but if you must, call it for what it is: a goose chase. It might not get anything meaningful, but it could also find the golden goose with decidedly less probability.
It's likely that Sol-3 was terraformed and seeded, and the existence of a few organisms supports it. _Pelagibacter ubique_ has a unique streamlined genome with peculiar adenine and thymine chains especially in the hyperconservative sections of its DNA. Our science has failed to explain its evolution, despite it being the most common organism on this planet. *We were never alone.*
