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New Vittoria Mezcal XC tires tested: Do you agree with me or not?

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TBH I might have pulled my punches a bit on this one, probably because there are loads of Vittoria mega fans out there. It IS definitely better than previous Vittoria XC tyres I've used and much more in line with other similar tyres from Pirelli, Hutchinson etc. That said previous Vittoria XC tyres were very sketchy on my local trails and it can't match Maxxis or Schwalbe options for speed, grip, feel or consistent support at lower pressures.
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@paulwatson-work3544 27 дней назад

Mezcal on the back. Barzo on the front. For me thats perfect for a south of England hardtail. Horses for courses though.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

It definitely seems to be a north south thing

@jaredrude431 27 дней назад

have been running Barzo / Mezcal combo on my hardtail since May, but in the 29x2.6 XC trail casing. Barzo on front around 17 psi, Mezcal rear around 18 psi. Its no XC race bike but on the easy trails these tires roll pretty fast and have enough grip for me on the flat trails and flat corners. Granted, when all your other bikes have 1200+ gram enduro or DH casing tires, pretty much anything else rolls fast.

@ortodontiaespecializada9283 26 дней назад

Have been using a Barzo 2.35 on the front and a Mezcal 2.35 on the rear of my orbea OIZ 2021 MLTD OMX, with DT Swiss 1200 spline 30mm, vitoria xc light airliners , 18/16 PSI and I weight 73kg. Never had a single problem, the grip and feeling is amazing!!!

@pphmmr4 26 дней назад

I do agree. It's fast and grip is great also in wet/mud condition.I use Mezcal with Barzo in front on XC marathon races.

@teamescapar4226 23 дня назад

Agreed rear tyre pressure on the old one was critical . There're a great tyre on the rear at about 24psi and work great on a hard tail. The XC Trail version is better in many conditions - stronger side wall and digs and bites a bit more, so less drifty. They're perfect here in Valencia for longer distance XCM stuff

@Stickymicky25 27 дней назад

Been running the newest version of the Specialized Fast Trak on the Oiz for ages… 2.35 T7 front and 2.2 T5 on the rear and it feels amazing… and if you get them in a specialized sale, you’ll pick them up for about £22 each… 👌🏻

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@Stickymicky25 yep, reviews coming ASAP. Absolute bargain though eh?

@Stickymicky25 26 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV when the world is paying 50/60£ a tyre, and even upto £90 for a premium road tyre… getting something that has been brilliant and worked nicely for me at ~£22 a tyre they are a brilliant bargain!!! I have the ridgeway 107km event soon, and I’m seriously tempted to change them to the renegade tyre to get that fastest tyre for the gravel on that event!

@GuyKesTV 26 дней назад

@@Stickymicky25 I’ve just seen they’re doing a 2 for 1 offer on the website too. Weird thing is I’m not sure the Renegade is actually any faster. It puts more rubber on the ground than a Fast Trak so it never feels as fast as I expect

@Stickymicky25 26 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV interesting, I do know that on the bicycle rolling resistance website, there was very minimal difference between the fast trak and renegade, but those are not real world tests imo… 🤔

@GuyKesTV 25 дней назад

@@Stickymicky25 no, that diameter of drum dramatically overplays the differences. it seems to favour some different constructions of carcass in exactly the opposite way to tests I’ve done on the road / trail too. That’s the trouble with getting sciency, it’s very hard to replicate the whole performance picture. The only thing I ever had line up with what I felt was a very medieval fork twisting rig I made. That was obsolete soon as 35/36 stNchions appeared though as the rig flexed more than the forks 🤦‍♂️

@hardmtnbiker 25 дней назад

I would have run XC tires on my Trail hardtail and Single Speed mountain bikes. Mostly on the rear only. Personally I always use 2.5” or 2.6” and my most recent tires are the Recon and the Teravail Ehline. The one thing that I always do is use CushCore, this helps tremendously.

@JohnHorlock-bb5zx 27 дней назад

Tried them a while ago and i completely agree that at a lower pressure they felt sluggish. Currently on rekon race / ikon but finding the front on a 30mm rim is terrible at corners... Looking at a pair of specialized renegades for racing

@stanrobert7755 17 дней назад

I run the grey sidewall (TNT) ones front and rear on my Chisel. 2.35" width. I find them great for mixed gravel/double track/single track rides and I run them at 16psi/18psi. They feel fast and grippy. Never punctured or burped or damaged rims (Iam 70kg). That said, if I am going for a proper MTB ride I take a different bike (butcher/ground control combo on epic evo)

@mikestivers8302 27 дней назад

on my xc/dc bike i've recently run the agarro 2.35 or the wtb trail boss 2.25 out back. both are great. never did like the mezcal, i push my bike too hard on rocky and loose over hard so i needed more tread. prolly only used it for around 50 miles see if you can source the teravail Ehline. great rear tire.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@mikestivers8302 yeah I’ve tried Ehline, I went for the light one and killed it pretty quick too.

@mikestivers8302 27 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV the light casing is like tissue paper, i agree..

@ferencvarju651 27 дней назад

I’m totally with you on this and have a little less positive opinion about the Mezcal, though I only tried the one before this model. I was particularly scared on them when I had to tackle hard, wet surfaces like rocks and roots, and it had a tendency to slip up even on wet tarmac. I’ve found both the Maxxis Rekon Race and the Schwalbe Racing Ray+Ralph much more consistent and predictable, and I don’t think they are any slower either. Based on this review, I’m not exactly keen on trying the new iteration of Mezcals :(

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

These are better but I’d still stick with Schwalbe as it sounds like we’re having similar experiences

@lda6496 27 дней назад

@@GuyKesTVI agree I just tried barzo/ mezcal combination , not race version though ,tread is hard and does feel very skittish, I prefer Ray/ralph combo . Not sure I would pay £50/£60 for race version .I have also just purchased the hunt proven carbon wheelset so waiting for your review on those 👍

@Grandadgreyhair 27 дней назад

Interesting review I sort of agree with most of your observations, I put some xc mezcals limited edition UCi version on my Cotic for general gravel/ bike packing. 2.35 x29. I found they went on super easy, they are quicker than my Forester/recon combo and I found grip quite reasonable. I also found getting the sweet spot between bouncing and damped a bit of a faff. Still definitely a robust and okay bikepacking tyre. That said they are no where near as good as my Pirelli Cinturato gravel m tyres that I use on the gravel bike for all round use. As a footnote I find the Vittoria Mezcal line up hard to understand

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@Grandadgreyhair cheers, it’s that knife edge of pressure balancing that’s my main issue. If you’re happy to bounce though it’s all good

@marksandoval5361 27 дней назад

My favorite fast-rolling Trail tire combo is the 2.6 Rekon front and 2.4 Rekon rear both in Dual Compound, 60tpi. The 2.6 Rekon front and 2.6 Ikon rear is also very good. Unfortunately, Maxxis stopped making the 60tpi 2.6 Ikon. I don't use 120tpi tires because I have shredded too many in the past. The 2.4 Mezcal holds my interest because it comes with a 60tpi casing and I would be using it as a fast-rolling rear tire. Does it roll-faster than a 2.4 Rekon? Do you think it is more durable than most 120tpi XC tires?

@yes-7018 27 дней назад

Rekon is more confidence inspiring than the previous Mezcal for sure (tread pattern on this looks the same as old), but Mezcal definitely rolls faster and has almost the same rear grip, rekon is a hair better grip-wise in the rear. It's fast but slightly scary as a front tire. It slides a bit more if you don't lean the tire enough off of the center tread. Rekon has a more damp feel out of the two as well.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@yes-7018 totally agree with this. I’ve got some of the new single compound Maxxis Ikon and Rekon coming but a bit worried as I don’t rate the new Severe much in that compound

@ferencvarju651 27 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV In my experience, the new Maxxspeed Ikon and Rekon Race are thankfully every bit as good as they were when they were 3C and dual. I’ve had two rides on a Severe last year and that’s a comoletely different experience even though the compound is claimed to be the same. I’d only recommend the Severe to people with serious suicidal intent.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@ferencvarju651 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SAME! Thanks for reducing my worry about the new ones 🙏🏻

@tzrrsdave 27 дней назад

Plus if you can only get a 240 mazza on front you can get a 260 mezcal in there

@CycleXplorer 26 дней назад

Double Mezcals have been my choice for a while for long distance/ultra races. Roll very fast and I love them. Maybe I'll try something else somewhen but don't feel the need to right now

@stefanlukic7272 25 дней назад

I am considering the same combination,since I ride on asphalt 99 percent of the time... I am just curious how does it perform on cornerings...

@CycleXplorer 25 дней назад

@@stefanlukic7272 I haven't had any issues with cornering. If it's really muddy they're not super grippy. But they roll so nice and are great for a mixed surface event. I am not however a super quick downhill racer!

@MarcusOliver2006 26 дней назад

QQ - what’s the difference between a Maxxis Rekon and Ardent? Look the same to me. I’m sticking to Forekaster/Ardent combo on my Whyte 629 hardtail

@rule3036 26 дней назад

I run Ardent race front and rear , on my Chisel, not the fastest rolling XC tyre but very durable and handles mixed conditions very well including wet grass and mud, although not a tyre for the winter in UK. Good all rounder tyre for XC type /gravel riding. Seated easily on Hope rims with just a track pump for a tubeless virgin .

@aneyeofthestorm 4 дня назад

Would be good to know if your could test these with Vittoria tyre inserts, these could be designed as a combo?

@GuyKesTV 3 дня назад

@@aneyeofthestorm I believe they are. I’ll get some MTB liners for them as I’ve only tested gravel so far

@ashkirk3425 27 дней назад

For me it has to be Schwalbe’s super race variants. really efficient and great feeling tyres at low pressures and also 60tpi.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@ashkirk3425 yep, me too. Super keen to try the new ones but not available until September

@sturdyvw 27 дней назад

Never got on with the excessive bouncing on Schwalbe tires compared to the Maxxis Aspen and pirelli xc rc. Those feel a ton better over rough stuff and have a ton more grip than the racing Ralph/ ray combo.

@ferencvarju651 27 дней назад

@@sturdyvwinteresting to see so many people get on so well with Aspens. I kove their feel and ride quality, and also the way they communicate when they are about to let go. It’s just that they are literally always about to let go on my local trails 😁 I am deeply in love with the rekon race though.

@sturdyvw 26 дней назад

@@ferencvarju651I like the Rekon race a lot as well, you’d enjoy the Pirelli xc rc in the pro wall casing, splits the difference between the two. What’s odd is it takes a while to “break in”. There must be a casting release goo on them or something but after a few rides they get extremely quiet and fast rolling. Out of the box I hated them but went back to them and tried them a few times, fell in love.

@mattblack133 26 дней назад

@@sturdyvw ha.... that's interesting. Which tire and psi did you run, if you remember. All I know is the Schwalbes.

@keepingtherubberdown5715 27 дней назад

So, for XC riding I don't like the tire profile. To round and struggles to grab grip on outside knobs. Gravel and long bike packing trips love them as they are super fast rolling.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@keepingtherubberdown5715 exactly this, straight line is fine, rallying not so much

@PATEKPHILLIPI 21 день назад

the width of these brand always smaller than they told on the tag. it's not precise like other such as schwalbe because I used to use schwalbe wicked will fast rolling aslo as well as vittoria mezcal but as I mention the width of schwalbe 2.4'' equal to 2.6'' mezcal.

@devlish668 27 дней назад

What XC type tires would you recommend for those that prefer to run lower psi (17-20)? Thanks.

@benoosthuizen4961 27 дней назад

Ride my tyres around 18 - 20 psi. Have tried Maxxis Recon Race, Pirelli Scorpion RC XC and Kenda Booster Pros (all 29 x 2.4)… all work really well at that pressures. Pirellis are the fastest tyres I have ever ridden with decent grip. Recons were comfy and grippy, but didn’t think they were that fast. Kenda’s are my current favourites… they grip really well, are very comfy and faster than the Recons, though not as fast as the Pirellis. 🙂

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@benoosthuizen4961 seconded on Maxxis and Pirelli for consistent low pressure performance. Specialized (control not sworks carcass) also good and a total bargain and Hutchinson feel really good too if you can find them.

@frankschock9981 9 дней назад

@benoosthuizen4961 Boosters corner better than the XC RC's? Also how's the actaul volume of these? I know the Rekon Race 2.4 is the biggest actual volume around 2.45.

@benoosthuizen4961 8 дней назад

@@frankschock9981 Yes, they do corner better than the XC RC’s 🙂 Haven’t measured actual volume, but they are very similar to the Recon Race 2.4s.

@Grandadgreyhair 19 дней назад

Still not getting the sweet spot when you have front tyre at a great pressure for riding along, it goes all squishy when you load front handlebars, a few more psi and it holds up great with similar bounce to Lewis Hamiltons F1 car. The rear seems okay because it is more weighted most of the time. I notice a lot of racers use these tyres but in the 120 tpi incarnation.

@L4This 27 дней назад

I run the new peyote race 2.4 front and rear on my process 134 for summer xc rides.

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@L4This good to hear, only run the Peyote on rear so far as it’s still wet here but I’ll double up soon as I can

@L4This 27 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV yes mate , but they do feel alot more "pinging" Ive have been running the aspen 2.4wt and they are much more happy with low psi , think i will go back to them for xc/longday in saddle rides. Also run the new Michelin force am2 and wild am2 on my trail/enduro wheels for more sloppy and "fun" rides.

@frankschock9981 9 дней назад

@@L4This Does the Aspen have more cornering grip?

@L4This 9 дней назад

I would say peyote have i bit more corner bite then aspen @@frankschock9981

@L4This 7 дней назад

@@frankschock9981 Yeah i think peyote has a bit more corner bite

@AdamFitzgerald 27 дней назад

Did you test it on front and back?

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

Yes, and with new Peyote on the back

@AdamFitzgerald 27 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV I like it on the back, with barzo on the front. Couldn't get on with it on the front. But I mainly ride bridleways and gravel trails on the hardtail. I love how fast it feels. I feel like it would kill me if I wanted to ride singletrack in the woods 😅

@VerthNeel 27 дней назад

Going 60tpi is a mistake, imho.

@tzrrsdave 27 дней назад

I use mazza in summer and mezcal in winter, you can't really ride off road round here in winter it's clamy clay but the mezcal is nice for a bit of both on and off road

@MarcSullivan-yo9gy 21 день назад

The old gen at 2.35 width is already too wide for my liking as it floats too high on loose gravel.

@waynegiles9320 27 дней назад

Barzo on the front for me this “summer” 🙄😂

@GuyKesTV 27 дней назад

@@waynegiles9320 I feel your pain. I refuse to use mud tyres though!

@morrisizing 24 дня назад

Only in a 2.4 limits its use as a Gravel tyre given the trend of MTB tyres at Unbound.

@MarcSullivan-yo9gy 21 день назад

Check out the WTB Nano, they make them in 2.1. Not nearly as sophisticsted construction as the Mezcal and wears faster though

@morrisizing 21 день назад

Lachlan Morton ran a 2.1” Vittoria Mezcal at Unbound I believe. Though I think there are faster rolling MTB tyres that are popular with some gravel racers that have bikes that can fit a 2.1.

@JasonLiske 27 дней назад

100

23 дня назад

Waiting for Peyote.

@GuyKesTV 23 дня назад

Noted!

21 день назад

@@GuyKesTV I couldn't resist and ordered it I hope it will be good for adventure cycling front Syerra back Peyote

@NiohNiohYT 24 дня назад

Imho, new tire is just worse than the old mezcal. Old mezcal seems to have even softer grippier side knobs, and harder center for both higher durability, and higher speed. This new single compound tire seems to be a production cost saving reason, and not the performance one.

@GuyKesTV 24 дня назад

@@NiohNiohYT yes the old tire was quad compound (dual compound on top and at base). This tyre feels slower on hard surfaces but more controlled off road. Will have to see how it wears over time