These videos are fantastic! just two guys riding around looking at trucks talking about different brands and prices. This is what makes TFL the best out there.
The fact that Ram, and other automotive, and non-automotive companies for that matter, are able to just roll back prices like that show that it's not inflation, it's just been mostly greed.
Its the value of the dollar that has gone down 30%. Just wait its only the beginning. Poor leaders just doing what they can to help us americans.. what are the chances, such bad luck this is happening under their watch
Those days are long gone. In 2020 I was looking for a new full size truck. Found a Chevy WT base model locally for $29k. You could still find higher trim vehicle with more options for around $56k. Now the same truck is $70.
70 grand for 1500 sst ram is outrageous! Honestly all of us should do are best together as Americans and let these vehicles rote. Greed is the new normal in this country.
Especially American brands. GM has lost their damn mind with that Colorado for 38K. May as well go get a Tacoma or a frontier. Frontier actually has some very high value on the used market.
Everywhere you go, truck prices are through the roof. I bought a 2024 Silverado 1500 Custom with 6 miles on it. After warranties and other things, I came out at 46k. Best deal I've found here in West Virginia
But $42k for a used 2020 F150 Lariat 5.0 with 12,800 miles is an awesome deal compared to $73k for a 2024. The point of the video was new vs used. And clearly there are deals to be had. People are avoiding new at this time because of this.
@@leechburglightsbuying used is a massive risk. A lot of trucks were traded in because there are major issues and the owner got fed up and got rid of it. The dealer will dress it up good enough to make the sale buy if they couldn't fix it before, they haven't fixed it before rolling it onto the used lot.
@@hochhaul Or buying used can be done when taking the vehicle for a pre purchase inspection with a mechanic you trust. In the past 30 years, I've only purchased used vehicles. None of them were a massive risk because I was informed. When I picked up the F150 in December, I crawled all around and under the vehicle. I took a flash light with me. I looked at everything. Services were completed and everything was up-to-date. The deals are out there if you're patient and diligent.
How can you get the best bang for your buck? Don't watch channels like these that constantly hype up overpriced cars. Buy reliable cars used and ignore everything else.
Ya, like my 2013 Toyota Land Cruiser purchase three years ago with 125k miles and to date, water pump, radiator, timing chain cover oil leak, and right now the driver review mirror folding motor failed, price to fix $2,300. There is no such thing as a reliable used car. Is the cost of used ownership less probably but not by much. $3,000 in repairs annually or $5,000 $6,000 for a brand new warranties comfort and confidence.
@@ghostface1818 Pretty much exactly what I got. But what’s your point? Where’s the sweet spot and who’s the manufacturer and what’s the model and at what mileage makes my statement unreasonable? I’m not complaining about my LC. I Love my LC so much in fact I have two, the 2013 and a 2021. BY the way all the repairs I mentioned began at just over 65,000 miles with the water pump and Radiator common flaws repaired long before I purchased it and the Timing chain cover leak was likely ongoing for quite some time and I negotiated the price knowing the cost of repair so none of the repairs except the mirror occurred over 100k and these are the repairs reported and or perform by the dealership. The gentleman’s statement may be reasonable if expounded upon. Buy reliable used cars between two and four years old with 25,000 miles or less and sell them every two or three years before they reach 75,000 miles. That’s a strategy that could play out on the roulette wheel of used car buying and save some serious cash but maybe not depending, after all we aren’t talking about Camry’s and Outback’s.
@@SaltShack Buying a used car has many factors. I live in the North East and the amount of salt used on roads absolutely destroys vehicles regardless of how the vehicle is maintained. Many other places in the US do not have to deal with that variable and used cars probably go longer with less issues. The big issue is that Americans are paying for vehicles they don’t actually need or can afford. How many truck buyers actually need a truck. Or how many people need a full size SUV when a sedan probably would work for them. The only people to blame for the cost of vehicles is the consumer and their buying habits.
Auto makers settled in the fall for higher wages by factory production workers. Auto Workers got a raise. Where do you think that money comes from to increase their pay. It's still inflation.
When are you going to address the elephant in the room? Specifically, how long will a turbo based motor last? Made by a company that is notorious for engine recalls.
I really appreciate this segment to see what kind of real world prices you can get with different packages. It's crazy that you can get a Colorado for $35,000 or $65,000!
I agree about the crazy cost of trucks, but are you really surprised, when you compare groceries from 2019 to now!? It’s crazy inflation from greedy companies everywhere.
bro trucks over 35,000 are not "good deals"... Ya'll can't make a video showing "used trucks" and great prices and keep pointing at prices north of 40 grand. this is ridiculous. Most of us don't waste money trading in a new truck ever 8 months...
The pricing now isn't as of big a problem as it was last 2 years but the real nail in the coffin is the financing. Now, because of the USA's sad state of affairs with our countries upside down economy, financing/leasing vehicles now cost on average $200-300 more a month for tge same class of vehicles comoared to prior years. That's on the average vehicle for the average person. The $65-80,000 vehicles jumped up $450-500+ more a month. People financing these vehicles with $800 to 1,500 a month payments were insane, not thinking clearly and now over extended. The only way to truly get an above average deal now, its be a cash buyer. But how many people have $37-45,000 cash in hand for transportation? Some but not me or many Americans.
The people who stopped using credit cards and paid off their loans and personal debt are the ones who can. There are more out there than you think. It can happen. I bought my Toyota 4Runner with cash in 2020 after negotiating the price to what I was willing to pay. Came out way ahead. Took me forever to get out of debt, but the sacrifice was so worth it.
The point is totally missed. These prices are still too high. The reason Ford introduced the Maverick at 20k was because they know prices are out of control.
Why would you think they are out of touch with reality. This is reality this is the world we live in EVERY THING is expensive if you want it you will pay more for it.
Like your videos, don't stop. Saves me from going to the dealer and researching online. I originally was looking for a ranger, switched to a 150 and ended up with a 350 Lariat tremor ultimate. I would have ended up unsatisfied and trading the others. Your videos along with tk guided me to the right decision.
We just purchased a new2024 Chevy Express 3500 extended for 49,000. We bought the same van 2020 model year for 38,000....same every thing on it....a $11,000 difference....
A guy that bought new trucks in the 80's scoffed at truck prices in the late 90's. Then again the same people whining about current trucks prices are the same that whined about interior quality 5 years ago, which put truck makers into overdrive, upgrading interiors and using that to justify raising prices several thousand dollars.
If I recall correctly from the Chevy website, the work truck is a single speed transfer case. So you really do need to step up to the trail boss in order to get the low range. Trail Boss is a better value, if you order it correctly that is haha.
Best bet is for everyone to just not buy a new vehicle for at least a year. Plenty of used car deals to be had and it will teach dealers to not gouge their customers.
It's still too expensive I would pay $15,000 for a small truck no more. $30,+000 is too much, you could get the badest muscle car or pickup full options 20 years ago for $38,000, now you only get a little 4 cylinder truck for that much money nah that's crazy...
Pity the average person can't afford ANY of these (unless you buy one of the smaller models with next to no legroom in the rear seat AND a useless 5 ft. Box). Sorry...I can't afford a $1,000+/mo. payment for 6-7 years to buy one of these unreliable behemoths. Lousy recent sales of these trucks and the crazy prices prove my point.
'Dealers' don't set the MSRP - the Mfg does. Dealers can sell them for what the market will bear - used or new. As we ALL learned during C-19. 😞 I'd expect some steep(er) discounts on the way as we're now seeing the return of 'cash back' and other incentives to move 'em. Ol' (over)supply and demand will hopefully put this back into a Buyer's market.
Stellantis is no good...they’re junk and I’m extremely upset with them cause I loved Ram for a long time like Toyota Tacoma they’re junk too now with tranny issues and Stellantis with issues you can name they have Ford with bearing issues for a decade and government motors have electronic issues and now I think I made my point and I do research on a daily basis so nobody can tell me different oh and while I’m still here evs can be thrown in the garbage cause they’re junk also so if I get hate for being honest then you can just not reply cause the truth hurts
Buying a $70k or more pickup is the first sign that your either Woke or an attention seeker. People buy those expensive trucks for toys. Then they lose them because they can't afford them.
I just bought a ‘20 Tundra 1794 with 40k miles for $42,000 out the door. Why in gods name would you pay $38k for this thing? That’s insanity, no wonder my local dealers cannot get anything brand new off the lot.
@@kenh8334 For a truck with high resale value, and peace of mind knowing my truck is gonna start and operate optimally with general maintenance for years…yes I’ll gladly pay more. It’s like harbor freight tools vs MAC, you pay more you get a better product.
@@kmorris9098 Resale value and reliability pal. Your Chevy, ford, ram won’t be worth a gum wrapper with mileage compared to a Toyota truck. 4k less than KBB and the cheapest 1794 tundra within 100 miles of my area. Try again.
Prices are crazy on new trucks! I bought a new 2022 Ford F-250 6.7 diesel tremor for $72k two years ago, now that same truck is close to $90k. I normally would sell my trucks when they got to a 100,000 miles but not anymore. I’ve made the decision to keep this truck forever so what I did was buy a basic Maverick for my daily driver. My local Ford dealer had over twenty Mavericks in stock and they were very willing to discount them, so for less that a Platinum Super Duty I have a Tremor and a Maverick! Thanks for all the great information you always provide!
The Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD was the best buy as far as I am concerned.. More truck for the money /heavy duty and will do most anything you need it to.
Andre is such a good guy! He’s by far my favorite person on TFL! Haha so much passion! I’ve seen too many videos of the other guy completely bothered by Andre’s existence. It’s really cringe tbh
I am seeing many new 2024 trucks 10% off MSRP, so pricing is softening for sure. Rams are even more discounted, but no FCA vehicles for me. I predict $5K rebates and or 0% financing by year end.
Great Video Guys! These videos are most like we are all hanging out just checking things out!! Nathan I 100% agree that the Gladiator should be considered a truck.
The Colorado showing the difference in the two is perfect example of buying the lower model and cheaper to self up grade with after purchase. Even though the lower model Colorado is $6-8K over priced.
😊😊 going to miss Nathan doing these car lot shows with Andre. He's thinking the same thing i am but won't bite his tongue as the other try to be lil more reserved at how nuts pricing has become. Always enjoy the out and about segments team
15:48. Nate is dropping facts about Alex. Yasss thanks bud. I have been preaching that for a while. He’s incredible. Very underrated we must change that And thanks to your praises we are
You can get some great deals on base model single cab GM full size. A Pro model GMC with LED headlights and many options can be had for around 40K in either short or long beds.
New trucks are stupid. All of them. You are limited on grey or black interiors, shades of grey (mostly) exteriors and either standard cab or crew-cab only on most brands. The engine choices suck. They overload them with useless technology that just add complexity, weight and price tag. Price tags are ridiculous. It's a shame that Americans can't see past the enormous marketing budgets the truck makers spend selling people the idea that all of this extra crap in necessary for everyday use. The truth is better than 90% of these trucks will never see actual truck duties. Most will simply be family haulers that stroke the owner's ego. I would much prefer a late 90's truck to the silly things they make today.
6:52 I'm not in the market for a pickup. right now I would go for the first one, lower it, put some sport tires on it, and maybe wrap it a different color. way less money, and pretty cool ride for way less money.
16:40 I don't mind them. However they are priced like they are the best of a pickup and a jeep when they are actually a compromise of both designs. also, I think there should have at least been an offering of a two door gladiator with a longer bed and less departure angle compromises.
Savings? I wouldn’t call it that. Just less expensive.. 😅 Deal.. yeah that may be that. I wouldn’t mind if ‘cruise control’ wouldn’t be mentioned every time 😂 Asking for an Andre
It really stinks that I pay extra to not to have advertising, but yet I still have to deal with it. Looks like I'm going to have to drop watching due to commercials. 😢😢😢
How many truck buyers buy midsize or half ton trucks and within a few years end up bumping up to HD size? Is it better putting your money towards a heavy duty and skip the others?