New VW Golf GTI Clubsport vs Honda Civic Type R review: which is quickest on track and 1/4 mile? 

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Why did they not bring the megane rs ? Is it becoz it will destroy the other two or is it becoz it's engine will break during the middle of its testing 😂 ?

Amazing difference to his first performance stats THAT ARE ALWAYS DONE WHEN ITS RAINING

Aaaand in real life the Golf will be 9/10 times better suited. Not everybody drives them on racing track. A little bit of rain and the Civic is done for. I am struggling with my Civic 2.2 d-tec in the rain and that car is much slower than the Type R.

@@kamata93 Done for? Are we talking as a daily, here? I own a FK8 and I live in the UK (we get our fair share of rain) and I’ve never really ran into issues on slippery roads…

Yup lets see

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@@officialwowow OK wowow😂

you are talking to a man who always has problems with manual transmission 😅

Man you are pretty funny😃😃😃

going for that top gear moneysssss

Trophy-R is the fastest in the class in terms of curve speed and has been since they came out with the first Megane R.S., 71.2 km/h vs 72,5 in the 18m slalom with lesser tyres. Actually normal Trophy is as fast through the corners as the Limited Edition Type R. Type R easily beats Renault's fastest on the straights though, leaving it in the dust the higher the speed gets. Always been a Renault problem. That's why I expect a low 7:30 time at the Ring from the Civic, along with their usual tricks.

@@MajorAMinor Isn’t the trophy R the one with no rear seats and a roll cage? Or am I getting them mixed up?

@@lukegodfrey9391 You're getting them mixed up. The only Megane with a roll cage was the old R.26R. I wouldn't be surprised to see Honda take the rear seats out of the Civic again though when they go for the record.

@@MajorAMinor megane trophy is a shitbox..

@@hondasarefaster5914 I know imagine paying 30 Grand more for carbon ceramics lol. Any 30k car with 30k of mods is prolly gonna be good haha. The trophy tried so hard. It’s embarrassing really

Lmao

Lol i just realized this wasn't Carwow until after I read your comment. And this is after I pretty much watched through most of the video 😂.

RIP

Carwow: **Looks at their 5.8m subscribers** 😁

Yeah, but this was recommended by Carwow, lol.

0 to 60 in 6 seconds is slow

@@garycoc1984 Except it really isn't. Tell me why you think so though.

6 is respectable but it would only be considered fast in the late 80s early 90s. 4s seem to be the new 6s.

@@skylined5534 when you’ve driven a car that runs 3.3 seconds 0-60 (ie a tesla M3P) it’s considered slow as hell

@@JoshTheFrosch07 So when I run an ultra modern electric car with super car bothering performance as a daily then anything north of this random 3.3 seconds is suddenly deemed slow? So all modern hot hatches and performance saloons are by your definition slow? I don't think so.

It has.

Correct

Electronically controlled mechanical LSD.

@@oppos727 It is not electronically controlled, it is mechanical however it is a helical differential which perform better than ones with straight teeth. The only front wheel drive hot hatches with e-LSDs, at least in the USA are the Veloster N and the Golf GTI Performance Pack

@@oppos727 It's not electronic, a helical diff is just gears.

Same, because it's good at everything. The Honda's only good on track. lm sure the Honda fan boys will come at you with "reliability".

@@kirksmith347 and its better looking... The civic is something I would love if I was in primary school

@@kirksmith347 Is reliability not important though if you spend this money on a car? I have an A4, so I guess the Golf would be more my type of car, but I wouldn't have gotten it if I didn't lease it. Also, the criticism on the Honda was that it wasn't dedicated enough for the track vs the previous version. It's a fine car for your daily commute. The problem is the look.

@@kirksmith347 The regular Type R is perfectly good on the road, you don't need the limited edition: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mFzE_3rPEDo.html "This is really quite civilised and usable." The only drawback is the styling if you don't like it, but the new generation conservative looking Civic will be along with a milder looking Type R model soon. :) [Plus the 11th-gen Civic has a volume knob and temperature knob instead of the Mk8 Golf's touch sliders. ;)]

Id have the Civic anyday, it may look a bit crazy but it's definitely not boring. Even the sound they both make launching, the civic is trying to kill it's tyres and the golf is just quick but no personality and a bit dull, lovely cars both of them but one strikes me as an awful lot more fun.

Sell it then and buy Civic if you love it so much.

@@DazDc alot of Golf R owners have come to the same conclusion. Its a great car but not the most involving to drive.

@@DazDc my car is for sale , you sound a little butt hurt 😂

Yeah, Honda manuals can be really really good.

@@Peterhaynes it's good but needs a manual

Yes spot on. Don't really care about a few tenths here or there in a sprint off the line. As the track test showed, the CTR is the faster car once moving. If you want to drag race buy something else.

I feel his way about a lot of cars. Drivers don’t care about 0-60 as that’s only the beginning. This current trend of 0-60 and 1/4 times being the measure of a car is saddening. These current trends such as Audis and Tesla’s with launch control that can’t turn properly when it hits a corner at high speeds seem to be winning out in the comment section. It’s a sad time for the “driver” when cars are measured by if you can push the pedal down and go in a straight line for a few seconds.

The CTRs main weapon is high speed cornering which it EXCELS at.

This i like saying we shouldn't judge a jeep wranglers in road manners because it's strength is in off roading. 0-60 is still very relevant. 6 seconds is not slow.. it's just not as fast to 60 as some others. There's nothing wrong with pointing out that the Civic is not the best in all categories. Everyone wants to constantly suggest that the car is flawless. In day-to-day usage The difference in acceleration will mean more than a civic being able to take turns slightly faster at track speeds.

i don't care for straight line performance in videos at all; it's boring and uninteresting information. it's why i really can't stand how carwow is just all drag races now. it's obnoxious, but they get them lots and lots of views so they'll keep making them

Almost as brutal as not having AC and only keeping up as a 20-car special edition 😂

No! He did drove the GTI slow on the racing circuit. Saying that the Civic lost on time because its manual it means you are not capable of driving a manual. it could get 4.9 0-60 and a 13.6 quarter this is just the normal model. If he got a lower time on a limited edition with little weight reduction and better suspension for racing then its not the cars fault its HIS FAULT! GTI is faster on acceleration and circuit only if driven proplery. Volkswagen could do 0-60 in 4.7 and a quarter mile of 13.1 is possible if you launch it more aggressively.

@@awakenedsoul2638 are you really awakened or a lost soul? What am I saying? Read properly. Have already said that his driving caused civic to have a slower time. Golf was a automatic, that to with dual clutches. Even if you may be slow, it should be on par with a manual car granny shifter! Think soul think!

@@mandarkerkar2581 No your comment is way off. If the car is faster manual or automatic does not matter. The problem is the driver being tested by a reviewer instead of a race car driver who competes professionally.

@@awakenedsoul2638 not everyone is a racer, people just wanna have fun on track. But even by normal standards, that shifting was bad! Hope you get it now. Sorry I didn't know you were such a great professional quality driver!

@@mandarkerkar2581 Your point is simple and mine as well. You are praising the Civics performance even if that fool shifted slower than a grand papa. You see this is a little review and a performance test, things should be done properly and by a capable race car driver. This is my simple point, do you get it now? Having a proper test, we will get better results on how really fast these cars are not a result from someone who is not capable to unleash what really the car can do. Have fun on the review not on the performance test. The model years of the Golf 2016 to 2020 is slower than the Type R, acceleration and circuit lap time the Type R can easily destroy the Focus and Golf but it was quickly destroyed after a few months by the Renault Megane RS Trophy by lapping at 7:40. But this 2021 Golf GTI can easily become much faster than the Type R if driven properly. I bet this will have a better version than the one reviewed by this fool. It will be the match of the 7th generation Type R next year. DAMN THE NEW CIVIC ITS UGLY!

I thought his girlfriend came across quite nice.

See the same result?

But hurt VAG-ina fan?

Keep crying the type R will be still faster than a gti even with slicks you will not gain 1.6 seconds

@@honeypeterfreakingbadger3666 Fan boy alert...

@@PugGTi-vo2lg more crying gti fans

It isn't him getting these timed laps..

@@BlackFlag94 wdym

@@BlackFlag94 the whole video was them timing his laps.

@@NvSrAgE679 no. The video is him driving and talking. The lap time is from someone else doing the timed lap but they make it look like him. He isn't good enough to get consistent times. He can review cars and do donuts but that's about it

@@BlackFlag94 well the man literally said “lets find out what I did” so you can understand why I would think that.

Not really. It comes down to engineering. Type r is built to a higher standard

Beat it with sticky tires , and no ac 😂.

@@Emilthehun Stickier tyres*. Yeah its just a faster car round the track the Civic 🙂.

Well, Civic is powerful than GTI Clubsport. But i go with the GTI everytime. Civic is a track monster.

@@Brineselbo agreed as a daily I’d go VW

@@M135iboost same here. Even though I can't believe I'm saying this 😂. Not a German car fan

definitely I agree

@@ttvvideos2050 I really hope he sees this lol

@@jasongillblox it would be life-changing if he does

@@ttvvideos2050 lol he never sees comments

@@jasongillblox he reads them but doesn't reply

it should be illegal to have this opinion

I will pick the normal type R ⭐⭐⭐

And having a car not shaped like a box with short wheel base helps too. Incase you didn’t know that lol

The Clubsport is faster than the Leon Cupra

No he didn’t hahaha. That things a bag of shit under steering Spanish wank box

beware of the dsg crowd: "iTs NOt aN AUtoMaIc!!"

Well yeah that's where they shine ? You might not have noticed it was more than half a second slower 0 -100 though

@@smiddysmidton8313 so now DSG guys are making minute excuses as to why they got beat by a manual? 🤣🤣

@@smiddysmidton8313 a manual shines on a track? You trolling or actually this hilarious?

I think it’s more like: the Cup 2s beat a set of street tires around the track

Don't do that

My Nan can change quicker

@@robc8593 most people can only drive autos nowadays its a shame man.

@@drestah917 he did ok. But the tires in the Clubsport are grippier.

@@dragospahontu the type r has michelin cup 2's. What tires did the gti have?

@@killerkhalsa27 look it up. It has autocross tires

It's for the track so you don't really need a/c. You won't be running it anyway if you're doing track. Day to day, of course, but this is specifically for the track

@@fraka899 AC is especially helpful on the racetrack. Seems you never drive on Track.

The golf is 4wd, and dsg, totally unfair already, plus this is closer on price

@@GuyI9000 You know well the GTI lool. To clear you up this Clubsport has FWD!!. And normal street tyres. Take the normal TypeR with normal street tyres and it will be atomised by the GTI.

i’d like to know this too

In 10,000 miles with temps above 100* my Type R has never overheated when pushed to 140+mph The engine will also hold over 600whp whereas the Golfs engine will snap rods around 450whp VW engines are nowhere near Honda.

Hammered?! 😂 a little quicker around a circuit and gets handed everywhere else? Good job they didn't use the R as the bench mark performance VW... BYE-BYE BANANA SPLIT! 😂

@@skylined5534 yep Hammered, not even DSG could save the golf. That's a true reflection of how great the Civic is. Oh and if we are talking fairy tales of "if this, or if that “ then if the civic was DSG, then it would have time for a wash and wax while the golf is still finishing its lap. So funny, the club sport, makes a good car a little better. The Ltd edition type R, makes a great car even greater.

@@bobbyg5904 Nope, sorry fella, 1.6 seconds isn't a hammering, 4 seconds like between the Megane Trophy and the non commercially available development CTR used by Honda for the Nordschleife... that's hammering. Yes the Trophy is more expensive and also yes, the CTR would need to become significantly more expensive than it currently is to even match the Megane. And all I can say is it's a good job they didn't use a Clubsport S or even an R. Because the former and particularly the latter would cripple the CTR. As for the fairytales? If Honda truly thought as you did the Civic WOULD have a DSG. They knew forced induction had to happen but thus far they're happy to retain a standard manual transmission.

@@skylined5534 oh man, you just nailed your coffin on any argument here mate, DSG better than one of the best manual boxes ever. You're clearly not a driver. End of discussion. And yes, 1.6secs is a hammering 😜

@@bobbyg5904 Oh *Bobbeh* you do talk some utter shit. Do you want to try to make your reply at least begin to make sense? I had no idea I was in the presence of a Forza god 😂

it would edge out the civic

Nice but he already works for a better company.

Actor? You mean presenter right?

@@sHapina21 might wanna look at what the dictionary says about actors

@@sHapina21 they are not actors. That's kinda disrespectful to James, Jeremy, and Richard. They are presenters and they have said so themselves

What is soft limiter?!

@@KristianKG It just means you can't rev the shit out of it whilst stationary. Why some people get so upset about them is beyond me. You don't need to sit there revving the conkers off a car just drive the bloody thing!

@@skylined5534 They're the enemies of tire companies 😂😂🤡 (senseless sry 😀)

Not even close this isn't even VW's best Golf .

No

Like in a Best Motoring car show!!!

Agreee

With profi drivers!

30 kilos difference

😂😂

If we are all here, this means we all love him, aren't we?

No, longer straights on track wouldn’t help the golf because the type R is just as quick if not quicker once rolling.

@@tim-typeR the Golf is faster as speeds increase.

@@mrnicktoyou The Honda has more horsepower so I doubt that

@@juliusnrfelt652 did you watch the drag race? The answer is right there in front of your eyes.

@@mrnicktoyou It's 250 vs 270 kph. Question is, who's getting at the bigger speeds faster. I wouldn't be surprised of non of the two will get to their top speed on the average straight.

Lol

Because both models are aimed at similar customers.

@@gavinwyllie7855 beyond the point. The Golf comes in manual.

The A45 would destroy it in just about every metric.

civics faster in general round a track

Oh a d the civic is better

The civic is better

@@ezekielrajan Fan girls incoming

@@skylined5534 oh my is this poor guy feeling offended, sorry mate

Not available in the UK yet.

If the Clubsport spec was as ruthless about weight loss and also things like lighter wheels for unsprung mass the Golf would have killed the Civic. It lost out by less than a second and a half on track and beat the Civic everywhere else.

@@skylined5534 as I said, the civic as no compromise 🤷‍♂️ Châssis vs châssis the golf is under when we give also the fact that the auto gearbox is and advantage for it to 1,6sec is a lot on such a little track

@@blumafuji2753 And just changing the tyres alone would likely at least equalise that. The size of the track is irrelevant 1 second is one second from a go kart track to Laguna Seca.

@@skylined5534 1 second on Tsukuba and one second on the nurburgring isn't the same though don't exaggerate ah ah But yeah if you basically change the golf in the civic it would be as fast but it wouldn't be the same car ah ah Even with standard Tyre every one said that the stearing feel and precision as the diff efficiency and overall chassis was better in the civic 🤷‍♂️ I'm not a Japanese fanboy, it's just what everybody in the car automotive world is saying... And yes the dsg is also a big advantage everywhere, the civic would be faster with that too, but it wouldn't be a civic anymore 🤷‍♂️

@@blumafuji2753 Who's exaggerating? Tell me why one second track to track is different. It isn't. 'Ah ha'.