New West Vignette: FIREClean, Patent Medicine, And Gun Oil

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Until the US passed the Pure Food And Drug Act of 1906, later strengthened in 1936, it was totally legal to sell any combination of ingredients with any claim of efficacy, call it medicine and never disclose what was actually in the product.
Much of this "patent medicine" either did nothing at all and relied on the placebo effect. Some of these products really were effective but the ingredients themselves were pretty alarming: alcohol, opiates, cocaine and even radium.
US law has done much to prevent this from continuing without necessarily endangering the customer but there are still a myriad of nonsense products on the market that capitalize on these methods: homeopathics, cold remedies, etc.
The unscrupulous methods used by those olde tyme vendors are still used today, not just for cure-alls but also to sell a lot of other products - many of them targeted towards to the gun community.
We discuss this and more in this episode of InRangeTV.
We'd like to bring attention to these other content creators as we leaned heavily on their work to put together this particular video:
Sawbones (a fantastic podcast about medical quackery from a married couple): www.maximumfun....
Vuurwapen Blog (Andrew at Vuurwapen blog takes a highly intelligent and scientific approach to many relevant gun topics of the day): www.vuurwapenbl...
Canola oil is becoming competitive with synthetics as a motor oil: www.hort.purdu...
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@tribble1 8 лет назад

Carl: "... we're not saying that about any particular product ...." Title: "... FIREClean ..."

@jarrettadam1490 8 лет назад

You guys are a real assets to the firearm community and, I want to thank you for preserving the historical aspects of firearms.

@ArikGST 4 года назад

Ballistol is legitimatly a "Wizard-Oil": You can clean your gun with it, you can fix a squaky door with it, you can treat injuries with it, you can treat a sore throat with it (mixed with water), if you digest it (mixed with water) it helps with stomach problems. I havn`t tried cooking with it but Ballistol doesn`t exactly taste good so that might not be an option anyways.

@danielroble1802 8 лет назад

If that wizard oil was milspec i would buy it today

@InrangeTv 8 лет назад

+Daniel Roble It is mil-spec in the well regarded nation of Elboniastan. Battle proven! ~Karl

@RockandrollNegro 6 лет назад

Not milspec, mealspec. Fry your carbon, then some bacon.

@calska140 6 лет назад

Wizard oil sounds pretty good tbh. Didnt mention whether it was thirst quenching though.

@longdarkrideatnight 3 года назад

You would need to check with the NAAFI or the commissary service.

@patrickancona1193 3 года назад

“Opiates! NOW IN MILSPEC!” ...... may cause drowsiness, irritability, lockedbutt, destituteness, homelessness & death..... but you won’t care! see big pharma TODAY!!!

@brucestein988 8 лет назад

War story from my Drill Sargent in 1970. At a fire base in Nam, he and his buddies were fending off an attack, using their M-16's on full auto. He said they dipped the bolts in GI Motor Oil. The 16's "ran without a fault---but smoked like hell" So, maybe use 1970's era GI Motor Oil to get all that carbon out--better than canola???

@briancox2721 7 лет назад

Canola oil and fire clean are hydrocarbons, so smoke is technically carbon leaving the system...

@InrangeTv 7 лет назад

+Brian Cox I am sure that's not what they meant. :) ~Karl

@geoffflato6065 7 лет назад

Brian Cox by their logic black powder guns would never need cleaning....

@levirockstube 5 лет назад

nerrrrrrrrrd

@stevejohnson6593 4 года назад

@@levirockstube but you are watching this channel too?

@levirockstube 4 года назад

@@stevejohnson6593 short traj, yo1!!!11!

@BAdventures 8 лет назад

Great wizard oil spoof, I laughed hard. Good testing and discussion of the oils.

@RockandrollNegro 3 года назад

Ian is right. Germany was using synthetic lubricants in their engine works in WWII, but their gun oil was supplied by KleverFabrik (makers of the commercial Ballistol.) As you probably know, Ballistol emulsifies when wet, which is why their rifles began gumming up in sub zero temps. It wasn't the cold weather itself that was the problem: it was the oil getting wet, which caused suspended solidification, which then froze up. This led to the Wermacht issuing graphite dry lube, which was supplied by Graphit Kropfmühl.

@myparceltape1169 2 года назад

The graphite lubricant is interesting. My father had a little puffer-pack of it. "For locks", he said.

@YCCCm7 8 лет назад

Radium? Sounds like bad way to try to CURIE oneself. (Badum-Ts)

@0neDoomedSpaceMarine 8 лет назад

+YCCCm7 Heh. But seriously, lots of people died very horrible deaths to radioactive patent medicine.

@velocity550 8 лет назад

You guys crack me up. Great video.

@ThePerfectRed 8 лет назад

"The more smoke that comes out, the better it's working" - I really had a good laugh there. I don't smoke but maybe I should.

@Outerwebs 6 лет назад

"It comes more expensive in smaller bottles, as it's homeopathic..."

@bigjohn75 8 лет назад

my AR.runs much faster on cocaine and alcohol in math. I have been trying to get my AR into rehab for many years with no success maybe we should have an intervention

@foobar201 8 лет назад

The instruction to wipe with cleaning alcohol is a typical snake oil sale tactic: give overly complicated recommendations on how to use the product so when buyers complains that it doesn't work, blame the buyer for not following the instructions to the letter.

@austinicholas 3 года назад

You should always clean metal before introducing a new penetrating oil.

@myparceltape1169 2 года назад

The oil was to clean it. The alcohol was to remove any residual oil.

@reinvestorintally 8 лет назад

"You give your baby cocaine and alcohol and they'll probably go to sleep." LMBOOOOOOOOO

@drewgoin8849 5 лет назад

I love reading about the history of pre-germ theory in America. Roy Porter wrote a couple of books on the subject, and I continuously am searching for older books on the subject. I am grateful for your spin on the hype effect in the realm of firearms!

@DwarfElvishDiplomacy 8 лет назад

You did your research on homeopathica, thats really nice. Most people confuse natural solutions with homeopathica because they pretend to use natural solutions while talking a lot of stuff about Soul and Karma healing and how having less helpful ingridience is better

@VelikiHejter 8 лет назад

While serving in a military big no-no was running your weapon "wet" because we still use natural oil for lubrication, some strange, reddish, oil imported from Africa, I have heard that is extracted from some kind of tree, and rifles would produce a cloud of smoke while oil have been burning out. Which is potentially deadly since that cloud could reveal position of the unit to the enemy, so, anyone who would do it would clean all of the guns of the entire unit when we would get back from the range. So, yes, that is the oil burning, not the carbon leaving a gun. As for the freezing of synthetic oils, after the training I always had a can of Ballistol with me, and my weapon, M76, never jammed and it sometimes get really cold here, down to -20C° (-4F°). I also hunt, during the winter I used semi-auto shotgun, gas-operated, and never had a malfunction using Ballistol.

@DrKlausTrophobie 6 лет назад

Pretty funny, because: Ballistol was devoleoped as gun oil AND medicine for the emperors army. They put herbs in it to "prevent infection". Even sun burn and frost bite, as they claimed...

@RockandrollNegro 6 лет назад

Radovan, what army where you in that used this type of oil? I didn't know it was popular outside of Africa. It is called Rougoil, (Red Oil) and it comes from the Congo. It was manufactured for the French army, but I didn't think anyone still used it. It is made from Alkanet, flax oil and pine oil. We do not use it on guns anymore (except for wood staining on stocks) because it wasn't a very good oil, and because Ballistol is so easy to use. Ballistol is popular in Africa, but less as a weapon lube and more for a medicine. (I suspect that its use there is a holdover from German Afrikacorps occupation, or from the German population of South Africa.) Ballistol is actually synonymous with 'gun oil' here in the Congo, and there was a big problem in the eighties when we started getting gun oils from other countries like Browning oil and WD 40. You see, many home remedies call for gun oil as a cure. If you have stomach parasites like worms (which is very common due to the water quality) and you go to a doctor, he will give you Ballistol to drink to kill the infection. So people would see worms in their stool, and then go buy gun oil that wasn't Ballistol, and drink it and die. An old man drank an entire bottle of gun oil that was made from ammonia and he died a horrible death. So yes, I can attest to the authenticity of reporting that states Ballistol is safe to ingest and effective against infection. Many of us also use it on our dogs and cats for fleas and fur problems.

@MilesKay11 7 лет назад

sawbones is a great podcast featuring justin mcelroy and his medically certified wife. really awesome to see you guys plug them!

@mazkact 8 лет назад

I just tried Ballistol for the first time, wish I had tried it thirty plus years ago. Bought some to clean my Snider after firing black powder cartridge loads and got the cleanest patch I ever got from it, nearly white.Ballistol will likely replace many products in my workshop.

@InrangeTv 8 лет назад

I am a huge Ballistol user and fan. While we haven't done anyting to specifically promote it on this channel, I heartily recommend it. ~Karl

@bandysxxx 6 лет назад

CANOLA - Canada - Oil - Low - Acid

@GuyverZ 8 лет назад

Only a few minutes in so forgive me if you cover this but there was one blog that took a bunch of flash suppressors and tested them on the same AR-15 and found that most didn't work much better than a cheap stock A2 birdcage and in one or two cases were worse. An independent testing body for gun parts, modifications and accessories would be a good thing, it'd keep companies on their toes and consumers informed.

@903lew 8 лет назад

That'd be Vuurwapen blog. He also has a great RU-vid channel.

@jrnmaine518 8 лет назад

Two quick things. First, opinions about the grease vs oil concept. I work in a heavy industrial environment manufacturing and almost all equipment is greased very little oil used. I myself use just a small amount on my AR on the bearing points on the bolt carrier since this is the only contact points from my observation (could be wrong just what I see). Other than metal corrosion inhibiting is there any benefit to oiling the whole carrier group? Second I'm pledging to your Patron because I honestly believe you two put the best content out there. I saw only 402 are pledging I hope more follow.

@InrangeTv 8 лет назад

+JRN MAINE I do not believe there is any benefit to oiling the whole BCG, only the contact points as you stated. Regarding Patreon & your kind words: awesome, thank you very much! ~Karl

@damnoldguy 8 лет назад

Grease is a suspension medium for time release of the oils contained within the grease. this happens when the grease is heated by friction of the moving parts

@glockensig 8 лет назад

Didn't West Vignette and Vignette used to be all one state??

@InrangeTv 8 лет назад

+glockensig Yes, until the horrific Pizza Wars of '08. ~Karl

@glockensig 8 лет назад

+InRangeTV oh right.... I think things expanded north of the Mason-Waist line after those battles.......

@joshuataft2019 8 лет назад

+InRangeTV. you guys are great for staying non sponsored.its very important to b able to b honest. keep on growin the show its been awsome.better than all the other tools not saying any names/yager! oops.lol thanx men

@enscroggs 5 лет назад

Wow! Info and wisdom. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Karl and Ian.

@TenB33rs 8 лет назад

I use mobile one 5w30 synthetic for my semi auto rifles and pistols...kinda expensive for motor oil but it stays nice and viscous down to very low temps (pour point is -53c).... canola oil, on the other hand freezes at 14f, but it does have a fairly high smoke point (400f) and it tastes way better. For my bolt guns I use a touch of Lucas Oil assembly grease on the lugs and camming surfaces of the bolt. all in all about 12 dollars worth of lubes that will last basically forever.

@arifeliciano1275 4 года назад

Kudos for clarifiying facts from opinions. Extremely important today.

@dwoodman26 6 лет назад

I always thought Canola was just an American name for Rape Seed, because they didn't like the word 'Rape' in a product. I've learned something new! Thanks guys.

@exploatores 8 лет назад

so what kind of rock should we use, fireclean must work great with blackpowder then, that create a lot of smoke:)

@Wedelj 8 лет назад

+Exploatores Blackpowder guns are known for being very clean, after all...

@WildBillCox13 8 лет назад

A fun watch with good blending of old and new to make a point. Nice work, Karl and Ian!

@chrismorrisusmc2111 5 лет назад

ARs are actually designed so that they can be run completely dry. Many people complain about the AR "shitting where it eats but that's a crucial part of the design that enables ARs to be run dry. The carbon in the action acts as dry lubricant. I think people greatly underestimate the genius that Eugene Stoner put into that gun. I think the most genius part is that the bolt functions as a gas piston (yes ARs are actually piston driven where the gas tube acts simply as a long gas port to deliver the gas to the expansion chamber in the bolt carrier where the gas pushes the bolt and carrier in opposite directions and the heavier carrier takes the bolt with it rearward) the gas rings on an AR are essential for the gun to function because the back side of the bolt is the piston. This design is why ARs have that straight back recoil and are quite easy shooting guns.

@rogerwilco2 8 лет назад

I like this episode. Magical thinking seems to be on the rise. Some debunking is always good to counter that.

@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 8 лет назад

I thought that using Crisco would lend the rifle some "Wessonality." Thumbs up for both of you, especially the rebar cross/Exorcist quote.

@lsdzheeusi 8 лет назад

FireClean + TriggerPoint aiming laser = ULTIMATE TACTICOOL!

@giostisskylas 8 лет назад

Since the beginning of the 20th century the imperial army and theWehrmacht in Germany uses Ballistol to maintain their weapons. Ballistol is still used in the 21st century by the german Bundeswehr. Ballistol contains mainly Medicinal grade liquid paraffin, also known as paraffinum liquidum and ethyl alcohol. Ballistol is temperature resistant down to -18 ° C.

@InrangeTv 8 лет назад

Ballistol actually is my primary cleaning and lubrication solution. I believe everything you said is correct, and we do plan on doing a video about Ballistol specifically. However, trying to find specific hard documentation to reinforce the instantaneous internet refutation that will ensue is challenging. ~Karl

@donaldweber7636 7 лет назад

-18 C is not that cold.

@Ashaman556 7 лет назад

Not sure what you are comparing it to but 0 Fahrenheit is cold.

@donaldweber7636 7 лет назад

Anywhere near or above the Arctic circle, during winter.

@kalebbrown93 7 лет назад

Donald Weber Actually that's true. Living in Michigan there'd be many winters with several days below 0 F. I'm sorry but a lubricant I can't use year round isn't an option. And yes I would shoot outside in the snow still.

@TheRokr1292 2 года назад

I love when my interests converge, Karl endorsing Sawbones is rad

@foivosapostolos1211 3 года назад

The germans were using diluted mineral oil which froze mechanisms of weapons, while the soviets used sun flower oil with a very small addition of alcohol, which allowed for efficient lubrification at temps down to - 40 degrees celcius.

@juanmanuelmarchioli 8 лет назад

The good point here is use simple vegetable oil... my grampa use to oil the granma sewing machine with olive oil... my wife still run that old machine... ;-)

@tangero3462 8 лет назад

I used FIREClean for a while and had no functional issues but I do agree with the marketing claims and most of their endorsements being BS. Slip2k seems to work quite well for me, but I do intend to try out Ballistol eventually

@neanderthor66 8 лет назад

No comments on R.I.P. ammo saying it works "like a hole-saw"?

@pakman422 6 лет назад

neanderthor66 Agreed! That product is just uderly ridiculous. Everytime I walk into a gun shop and see people "oo-in and aw-in" over it I just get sick to my stomach. Shooting someone in self defense with that ammo is just gonna wind up giving the gun carrying community a bad name. Just like the Black Talon hype. - Jacob S.

@bradmarthafocker4285 5 лет назад

I legitimately laughed through almost this whole video. Well done gentlemen.

@JonathanRossRogers 7 лет назад

That one drop of Wizard Oil was way too much for homeopathy.

@Tiger351 6 лет назад

Great video, Ian and Karl were always the Mythbusters of the firearms world.

@joeedgar5453 8 лет назад

GOOD ONE GUYS . I PERSONALLY USE RED AUTO GREASE ON MOVING PARTS , LIGHTLY. THATS AFTER CLEANING WITH HOPPES 9 . IAM SURE THERES BETTER AND WORSE...

@thelastneanderthal3171 5 лет назад

During the Vietnam war the Vietcong were cleaning their AKs with a dirty rag and diesel. They did just fine. I put some f my older ARs aside and used sunflower oil or 0W30 motor oil. Again, no malfunctions or perceived increased wear. If I am bound for combat in arctic regions where the temps are consistently below -20F I would consider a dry lubricant or an oil specially tested by the armed forces for those conditions. Otherwise, it seems to me That those claims are like snake oil of old. As always, great work guys.

@cwtoyota 8 лет назад

Castor bean oil is used in 2-stroke motorcycle and kart racing engines due to it's extremely high film strength and ability to deal with high temps. It smells great too! The downside of castor oil is that it doesn't mix well with gasoline and when burned (in an engine) it leaves behind gummy deposits and tough varnish buildup. Those issues probably wouldn't occur in a firearm. Maybe we should all be using Maxima Castor 927 on some firearms.

@mattatat1138 8 лет назад

Walmart high temperature grease. $3 for a large tube. Over a year of shooting and lubing and giving some to others to try, and I still have 3/4ths of a tube. Works great.

@patrickancona1193 3 года назад

Smoke??? FROM A EXPLOSION??? NO WAYS!!!

@artyom_zdanek 8 лет назад

Mmmmm yummy snake oil and eggs great episode guys I really enjoy the beginning what a blast man!

@meangoooo 8 лет назад

Would love to see you guys doing a long-term test with Canola or other food oils. Would be nice to have a cheap, tasty, non-toxic oil.

@CSelH 3 года назад

Oil company: "more smoke means more carbon burned out of your gun." Old man Pops, a 23 year army vet:"BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" As he walks out of the room.

@51WCDodge 6 лет назад

There was in a London Steet market, not that long a go, a stall selling Fly Repelent. These were little wooden blocks wrapped in shiny paper, and no flies landed on them! Many were sold till it was found that the cloth on which they had been placed for sale had ben soacked in Parrafin (Kerosene) so of course no fly would go near it! London Buses are also using vegtable oils as part of the fuel mix because it is GREEN! Trouble is the vehicle stinks of frying oil.

@Ducaso 5 лет назад

I did not know that about canola oil, sunflower oil, and grape seed oil. Learn something new everyday.

@paulsimmons5726 6 лет назад

Good point about no firearms agency to certify claims for the firearms products! I always consider the cost of a ticket for my local gun show as comic entertainment expense when I hear some of the salesman talk about how well their particular snake oils work! (Wizard Oil... LMAO!)

@greenbudzzz 2 года назад

Can we get some in range merch that says "if you give your baby cocaine and alcohol they will probably take a nap" -karl ?

@bongobrandy6297 7 лет назад

I'm sold on synthetic motor oil for the reasons it has been developed. Your gun won't reach the cyclic rate of a reciprocating internal combustion engine. I've heard that one well known company starts with methane, CH4, to make its synthetic motor oil. That just has to be the best starting point to make synthetic oil.

@0neDoomedSpaceMarine 8 лет назад

Also Canola Oil is probably a slightly more appealing name compared to rapeseed oil. Here in Sweden, rapeseed oil is very popular, we have a strong domestic production of it.

@jamieharris74 6 лет назад

One Doomed Spacemarine I used to be a rapeseed breeder. I used to analyse 30000 different oil samples a year, looking for better oil properties. Also I used to run my diesel truck on it.

@IrishDevil78 8 лет назад

I just use motor oil, my dad showed me that trick when I first started shooting. Has worked well for me, going on 30 years now.

@captainswoop8722 4 года назад

We only use rape seed oil for cooking. It's one of the most common vegetable oils in the UK. they grow a lot of it around North Yorkshire, huge golden fields of flowers in the early summer.

@magamexican6302 8 лет назад

I'd LOVE to see an apocalypse video where you test how well an AR and other guns run on canola oil. It'll be the most common oil available.

@todorkolev7565 3 года назад

My car actually does that. The DPF checks some parameters (speed, time duration at that speed) to determine if the car is on the highway. If it thinks the car is on the highway, it will start burning off trapped Diesel pollutants from the catalytic converter. It's literally smoking itself clean :)

@gretah3969 7 лет назад

I like guns, I also like cast iron cookware. That smoking of fireclean is the oil "smoking" (off gassing/boiling off higher level distillates). You see this when seasoning cast iron cookware, it leaves behind a layer of polymerized oils and carbon that protect the cast iron and provided a non stick coating, great for an egg not sticking but not exactly something you want happening to the lubricating oil in your complex machine, it's the same thing as oil "gumming up". All oils will polymerize ("gum up""sludge") at a certain temp, vegetable and animal based oils do so at lower temps than petroleum, synthetic, or highly refined vegetable/animal (which are actually used commonly in industry) oils. Just look up the smoke point of your favorite motor oil. Oil is a tool, and as I've been taught, use the right tool for the job.

@GC_Rallo 6 лет назад

Man, imagine how fun it'd be, boppin' around the frontier with your six-shooters, a jug of whiskey and a couple vials of cocaine and opium, gettin' all drugged up, dueling, getting in shootouts. Such magical times.

@jdizzy01 8 лет назад

Gotta refresh myself on this since fireclean is suing vurwaapen blog

@gustavmeyrink_2.0 7 лет назад

In case you were wondering the german armed forces used Ballistol from 1905-1945. ballistol.com/ After using it to clean and lubricate guns, oil the stocks, keep leather supple turns out it also works as an insect repellent, protects engines from salt in Winter and is being used for eczema by some. Universal oil indeed!

@RobertoDonatti 8 лет назад

It's very important! Keep on doing them!

@user-bo8yt4uc8b 6 лет назад

In Talvisota movie there is a scene where Finnish soldiers take bolts from Russian rifles since Finnish rifles stopped working in cold or from dirt. They say that the Russian bolts were manufactured with so bad tolerances that they wouldn't jam as easily as Finnish bolts. I don't know how historically accurate that was, and what kind of lubricant did the Finns use, but if the Russians had their magical lube (sunflower oil), that could be one explanation of why the Finns would prefer Russian bolts in their rifles.

@derekbrogan4241 5 лет назад

I use g96 exclusively, I dont know if it's the best but it's worked flawlessly in everything I own. Spray on before shooting, wipe off after shooting and that's 90 percent of the cleaning I do

@iseslc 8 лет назад

This video was very interesting! loved it guys.

@user-dv8ge8hf1o 8 лет назад

I just run high heat grease in my firearms. I use CLP mixed with motor oil for the outside of the firearm. My ARs run like champs on el cheapo steel cased ammo as do my M1As, AK47s and my semi auto handguns.

@riverstyxarmory9782 7 лет назад

Funny you should mention SAE and gun oil, as I use 10w-40 in my AR, have been for over 5 years, and like any good oil it works well for lubricating moving parts, even when subjected to high heat. I had a bad experience with RemOil when I got my rifle, new in box, fired 20 round dry, took it home and scrubbed it thoroughly, lubed it with RemOil only to come back to it 2 months later trying to fire it but it was sticky and malfunctioning. Used motor oil ever since and the BCG has been wet to the touch for over three months, through 5 shooting sessions.

@MrAmptech 8 лет назад

Anyone else remember the sewing machine oil that was dropped into the Lionel train smokestack. That is how you got smoke. They had a heating element there.

@justindunlap1235 3 года назад

That initial jet of vapour from the rifle on the second two shots are actually oil spraying at high velocity. Kinda like when you shoot you buddies ar15 he runs "wet", after 5 rounds your vision is clouding up from the oil on your shooting glasses.

@JesusvonNazaret 8 лет назад

2:25 great consumer tip

@juandemarko8348 3 года назад

My dad literally used bear fat / oil on all his firearms and it worked fine for him for over 50 years.

@jamescoppola5545 4 года назад

If Gun Jesus himself blessed a rock to protect my firearm from any malfunctions, I would 100% throw it in my weapon as any good follower of the Gospel of Browning would...

@michaeldavis4651 6 лет назад

I've always just used a very light coating of 3-in-1 oil. Granted, that's on bolt-action hunting rifles, but I'd be interested to read some opinions on using it on my Glock 19 and my 1952 Bulgarian Makarov.

@mrfancypanzer549 5 лет назад

I have found that gun oil doesn't really matter, as long as it doesn't affect wood or plastic any brand will do, some guns mainly bold action rifles would benefit from grease.

@geoffflato6065 8 лет назад

I personally use standard generic (usually outers) gun oil, or light machine oil/sewing machine oil. (both on hand for the machine shop and my leather sewing machine) I can't tell any difference between them..... Now my experience is with bolt actions and lever actions, but I always heard that the hardened steel on hardened steel in them doesn't actually need lubrication? My understanding was that the oil is pretty much just to prevent rust. Now I oil my guns, but I usually just wipe an oiled patch over the parts, then wipe it back off with a dry patch. I'm not sure if it's technically right, but it's what I learned to do, and I've never had an issue.

@forgenorth1444 7 лет назад

I don't think you'd ever see a problem from wiping the oil away or not oiling with how most people use bolt guns and lever guns, but hardened steel on hardened steel will still wear. I always oil them as I would any semiauto just to better preserve them. And it helps even more with rust

@geoffflato6065 7 лет назад

Oh I keep mine oiled too. Not dripping wet mind you, just needs a very light coat

@AngronIsAngry 4 года назад

it is (entertainingly) shocking how on the spot the opening is

@jarnomikkola8438 8 лет назад

The rubbing alcohol is used to remove any and all extra oil from the gun... it's also good cause it dries faster(aka vaporize in room temperature), than any other carbon based liquid, soaps and water etc. The oil producing the smoke and thus removing carbon from the gun... erhm, is wizardry, yeah. See as you add tons of carbon in the oil itself, being liquid carbon compound, you get the result you seek. No wonder. What the oil should be doing is lowering the temperature of the fictitious points and thus prevent fractures. What that has to do with removing carbon is that the carbon when heated to extreme temperatures and pressures tends to crystallize, see diamonds, creating fracture points. Usually those can be also absorbed by the guns own metal, lessening the effect up to certain decree. But overall, adding anything not specified in the usual operators manual is usually bad, cause it just adds to the expense of the hobby. As to what it does in war preparation in army, that's for the armed forces to study, where they also take into account far more variables...

@14tucker 6 лет назад

The P08 adds so much to this LOL.

@carami6442 4 года назад

Every machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

@myparceltape1169 2 года назад

Has anyone checked the smoke points for the oils used. Check also for cross linking of rape seed oil, sunflower seed oil, maize seed oil, mineral oil used.

@joecary3586 5 лет назад

Karl, don't kid yourself. Nobody will buy your blessed rock. Rocks that are blessed by Gun Jesus would sell like hotcakes though. Lol

@azuritet3 8 лет назад

liked it so much i watched it twice. good info

@scnitzelmahn6430 8 лет назад

You guys should sell wizard oil as a fundraiser for the show! maybe some kind of glow in the dark or funky stuff.....maybe at the same time sell some "forgotten weapons" brand gun lube with orange-brown colour and cosmo smell

@tylersmith839 Год назад

They sell a small tin of cosmoline on the site now! You legit prophesied.

@chrisjones6002 6 лет назад

Buy a bottle of Mobil1 oil and a tub of their grease and you'll be set for life. If you want to get really fancy mix 1 part of M1 transmission fluid with 2 parts of their oil and it makes a nice CLP. Another good option for cleaning is Ed's Red bore cleaner.

@tmutant 8 лет назад

Until the pure food and drug act, it wasn't unusual for companies to add bone meal to coconut in candy bars as a filler.

@ShawarmaFarmer 8 лет назад

It seems these days too, more and more products have shorter life cycles before needing replacement. Twenty years ago a similar product from the same company would last twice as long or more. Quality seems to be going down for everything.

@TheCleansingx 8 лет назад

the only thing i can think of is the InfoWars stuff..

@adonoghuea02 6 лет назад

Would be interesting to see the results on a factory new gun, see if there is any smoke on the first round fired through, if there is, then it is not fouling leaving the firearm.

@sawyerlawrence5033 8 лет назад

Around the 4:50 mark when discussing how one drop could change things. A cask of fine wine with one drop of human waste becomes sewage.

@InrangeTv 8 лет назад

No, it doesn't. There's a lot of things in high dilution within our food products which are entirely safe at such low levels. ~Karl

@captainscarlett1 2 года назад

Whenever I've had trouble running a gun, or just about any machine, I've found more lube is often the answer. Having a very clean machine helps too.

@JohnoO_O_ 8 лет назад

Froglube please. I used to love it until it gummed up some of my guns. Even hot bathing it doesn't get it all off. I'm sticking to regular oils from now on.

@Danogil 6 лет назад

3in1 Machine Oil used for years by me and by my Grandparents since 1899 till their deaths in 1965(grandfather) and 1980(grandmother)

@PwnzratorX7X 4 года назад

When somehow you're the only person in the McElroy fandom/Forgotten Weapons fandom and have to call out the neat accidental crossover.

@joeyd1404 8 лет назад

love these testing vids!

@phab2808 8 лет назад

Thanks guys I appreciate the video way to much snake oil salesmen. You guys are doing important work preserving and informing people threw your videos I have no doubt at some point these videos will be used for the exact same thing way after we are all dead lol. I will kick a few bucks your way when I can I really enjoy the channel.