I have to admit that I have never found Spyderco to be a company that I reach for when I need to be in formal wear or need a subtle knife. They take up too much pocket room, and knives need to be pocket carried in a suit. Just the truth. Maybe if you guys made an upscale Jess Horn, or something like that I'd reconsider. And I hope you do, with over 100 Spydies in my collection, and a good number are or have been users, I'd enjoy adding a proper gent;s knife to my collection/rotation. Also...why does every one of those Mantras look like the grind is terrible?