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In this part of Episode 20 I explained how the Knicks dodged a bullet not trading for Donovan Mitchell.
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@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Here's my response to all the haters in this video here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X4MsqtBiNSQ.html
@realrobsanders
@realrobsanders Год назад
Intelligent Analysis of the Trade. Knicks did the right thing. Sometimes that ain't pretty but they did the right thing.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Thank you. If you don't mind subscribe I have more content coming this week.
@dominicspinelli5807
@dominicspinelli5807 Год назад
“Isaiah quickley” 🤣
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
😬😬😬😬😬
@TheOnlyRagsMorales
@TheOnlyRagsMorales Год назад
You forgot Marbury, Francis, Brown, Nelson, Stoudemire, Sprewell, Walsh, Kidd, Houston…etc.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
In other words clusterfuck! Lol
@r.h.jordan713
@r.h.jordan713 Год назад
Neutral unemotional unbias review, enjoyed and subscribed. Keep it coming, go Knick s.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Being fair where it matters. I can joke around all I want but when something I feel is needs the unbias take or review I'm going to provide that insight. I'm a diehard Celtics fan, I love to troll and joke. But looking at this particular situation for the Knicks I can't trash them for not going all in. Thanks for the subscribe. Any feedback is needed. I'm new to this. Share if you don't mind as well. Welcome to The Basketball Soapbox
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Also on Spotify for past podcast.
@gilfordmccormack8140
@gilfordmccormack8140 Год назад
I completely agree especially now watching the way that the season has been going up to this point. They've had their ups & downs but this team is a good group that competes night in night out.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I think they are playing ok. Play in border level.
@bright6200
@bright6200 Год назад
For all the Knicks fans looking for a star remember how great those Carmelo Anthony years were? We wanted to trade him after 1 year because of some guy name Lin
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and Melo trumped all of that. Got dude outta there.
@bright6200
@bright6200 Год назад
@@thebsbpod seriously knicks fans are the problem. Then we blame Dolan but guess why Dolan is a problem? Because he is a knicks fan as well.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@bright6200 I don't know I just know the garden is sold out all the time
@RoDiggity3743
@RoDiggity3743 Год назад
@@thebsbpod the Knicks didn't give up NEARLY as much for Melo as the Jazz wanted for Spida. The Knicks messed up by making trash draft picks and garbage moves after the trade.
@jstrada5077
@jstrada5077 Год назад
Nobody talks about how bad the organization had drafted in the past worsts contracts in the nba All because they listened the fans Leon Rose is his own man no let no tell him what to do
@honcho875
@honcho875 Год назад
Spot on analysis here thank you for your work covering the team you got a new subscriber 💯
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Much appreciated 👍🏾
@alwaysgetup413
@alwaysgetup413 11 месяцев назад
Boy this video aged so well 🔶️🔷️🔶️🔷️
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod 11 месяцев назад
I'm still holding on to this. The Cavs didn't address their shooting woes and that's the difference. Still like them overall better than the Knicks.
@agentsuperargo5023
@agentsuperargo5023 Год назад
Just Subscribed.... speaking the truth.🗽🗽
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Much Appreciated. ✊🏾
@rashadpettifordpettiford6074
I am so glad you wasn't the GM for the Knicks
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I don't want to be the GM for that walking circus of an organization lol
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X4MsqtBiNSQ.html
@melvinottey3415
@melvinottey3415 Год назад
Trusting the process!!!
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I think that's the better way to do it for the Knicks who have missed in trades and free agency quite a bit.
@Kemet3.0
@Kemet3.0 Год назад
Correct...this basically benefits the Cavs.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Great move for them.
@denciarias2366
@denciarias2366 Год назад
We will never do that Melo trade again
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
With the Knicks never say never lol
@kenboogie4938
@kenboogie4938 Год назад
Excellent video. Your comments are on the money.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I'm surprised this video is still getting views like this but thanks for the support man. If you like what you see like comment, subscribe. I should have more this weekend with basketball and wrestling
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Who's your favorite team?
@michaelmereday6791
@michaelmereday6791 Год назад
You can say that again dodged a bullet
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I just think yeah they would have star power, but no caps space, or assets
@brienmacgearailt7801
@brienmacgearailt7801 Год назад
Great post
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
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@jstrada5077
@jstrada5077 Год назад
Let’s win one round and then we can say that I still remember what happened with the hawks 2 years ago
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I like seeing teams especially young teams build an identity and try to win. The Knicks are in that category with me as well as the kings. Brunson has added a different dynamic for y'all. They just need RJ to step up.
@TheSmokingKnick
@TheSmokingKnick Год назад
We Were Never Trading Julius Randle @The Soapbox Network
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Mainly do to the contract he had there weren't many suitors especially with his subpar play at the time.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Credit to him he turned it around.
@albewolf
@albewolf Год назад
New Subscriber. Nicely Done.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Thanks man next video should be up Saturday or Sunday
@demonhead1610
@demonhead1610 Год назад
💯💯💯💯💯 exactly what I said; what would Mitchell have been coming to?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Like the Cavs have a chance to be contenders. Have Garland and Mobley. With Allen. Vets, and Rubio is coming back lol But with the Knicks they would've been title contenders? I don't see it.
@BenDover90313
@BenDover90313 Год назад
Nice. You got a new sub!
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Thanks!
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
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@ChariotManGaming85
@ChariotManGaming85 Год назад
Great video man.. I'm soo glad the Knicks didn't trade for Mitchell for Obi, Mitchell, Grimes, RJ and draft picks..because it would've been Melo situation all over again.. Melo played with no one for like 6 seasons. Not this time. Smart move by Leon. Ainge didn't want Mitchell to come to the Knicks.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Melo had Billups, Amar'e, Smith, Chandler and Mike Woodsen. The issue was Chandler and Melo not seeing eye to eye and dumbass Phil Jackson trading for Dalenbert and Jose Calderon cause they work in the triangle 🤦🏿‍♂️
@aml2548
@aml2548 Год назад
Nope. It was that amare never played after we got melo.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@aml2548 they went 54-28 with Amar'e playing 29 games. They should've flipped him for anything. But Phil Jackson fucked them.
@ChariotManGaming85
@ChariotManGaming85 Год назад
@@thebsbpod I know exactly what happen.. That was the 2013 team.. After that.. It went down hill from there. I believe Phil Jackson did it on purpose.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@ChariotManGaming85 absolutely he did it on purpose. He was tryna get Melo outta there but Melo took the money.
@theearl1477
@theearl1477 Год назад
I'm in total agreement. If he was Lebron in his prime it's a no brainer. I like Mitchell, but not for the offer Danny Shame gave us.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Just wouldn't have been a good move. Check out my other videos
@tmac29nyc
@tmac29nyc Год назад
When the Team President Allocate the Trade responsibility To the Assist to The Assistant General Manager you know that wasnt gonna happen they wanted 6 Unprotected First Round Picks plus R.J., Toppin, Mitchell and Grimes
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Nah man but people are telli g me this aged poorly, and that they should've done it. They would've been stuck.
@danrichardson4608
@danrichardson4608 Год назад
Absolutely bruh
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
For once I believe the Knicks made the right move making no move.
@user-ks8lw7mi2k
@user-ks8lw7mi2k 10 месяцев назад
Do not need Donovan Mitchell now
@bright6200
@bright6200 Год назад
This would have been a lot worst than the carmelo trade. If you look at the carmelo trade we didn't even give up that much but this would have been insane.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
The Knicks just lost their depth when they traded Melo but this would've lost depth and picks.
@carmeloguiterrez398
@carmeloguiterrez398 Год назад
I thought Randle was all NBA 2nd team not 3rd 2 years ago,
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Holy shit yep he was second team. Damn. That makes it worse.
@carmeloguiterrez398
@carmeloguiterrez398 Год назад
The Knicks as a team had a bad year, started the the Kemba disaster which I wanted to work but did not , Randle had no steady piont guard we As A Team (I am a Knicks fan) we're awful but the man put up 20 10 and 5 on a bad year let's give him a year with Brunson then fully judge, I remember our last 20 10 guy we gave up on which was ZBO ,
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@carmeloguiterrez398 I like trolling the Knicks. But as an NBA guy it's truly frustrating to see this team have no consistency, in a big market and a loyal fanbase like yours. It's like why can't y'all get right. From the Ewing years, to the Melo years until now. But then not jumping all in with no plan is the best plan right now imo.
@carmeloguiterrez398
@carmeloguiterrez398 Год назад
I do appreciate your reply, thanks for the content and best wishes
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@carmeloguiterrez398 likewise. Thanks.
@adrienreality597
@adrienreality597 Год назад
I have been saying, since Donovan Mitchell's name came up in trade talks, that Mitchell is not worth the price for the Knicks. As you have said, 'We've done that before." It didn't work out. Not even a whiff of a 'chip. We dodged a HELL OF A BULLET by not trading for Donovan Mitchell. Thank you for saying it out loud. I personally would like to see a player like Trey Murphy III in a Knicks uniform. He is going to be an all-star level player and a 'chip piece for a long time. All he needs is some more confidence. Full disclosure: outside of the Knicks' players Trey Murphy III is my favorite young player in the league. Good show my brother. Salute. Subscriber #110. Let's get this thing going. Peace.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Hey thanks for subscribing. I just don't think the Knicks had the pieces in place after a trade to support Mitchell. Not only that I've been watching basketball for all my life and what Big time free agent went there? Melo was through trade. It's like keep building and figure out who to move and who to go after. Trey Murphy is nice. But I don't see New Orleans moving him or letting him go that easy.
@watcher7261
@watcher7261 Год назад
100 percent agree and a lot of Knick fans laugh at this idea, they want to repeat history. We have assets to get huge players like I don’t understand people especially with what Utah wanted I’d give that up for someone like Luka or D.Book… oh and PS it’s Immanuel Quickley not Isaiah 😅
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Yeah my bad someone put me on game earlier 🤦🏿‍♂️ lol
@odogg6899
@odogg6899 Год назад
Emmanuel Quickley*. Good video
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
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@thebsbpod Год назад
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@thebsbpod Год назад
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@carlwallace1129
@carlwallace1129 Год назад
Mitchell is like a more Dynamic& compact built version of mo Williams with NBA JAM hops and some of D'Wade's athleticism crossover stepback moves .
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I ain't never heard someone describe him like that. But I see Wade offensively with shooting ability. He's not there defensively
@carlwallace1129
@carlwallace1129 Год назад
@@thebsbpod absolutely 💯 .he seems to preserve himself for offense maybe he will clamp down for 2 or 3 possessions or gamble for steals 🤔Lol
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I mean he carrying the offense so not surprised. He got them twin towers behind him so he can gamble. Who's your favorite team?
@carlwallace1129
@carlwallace1129 Год назад
@@thebsbpod I'm rooting for the Cavs in the east but I'm wanting the Clippers to make it to the finals
@ElTuco84
@ElTuco84 Год назад
Send this video to Stephen A Smith so he stops whining
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
That would be epic if he watched it. But he's celebrating especially after last night win.
@nevillejackson5866
@nevillejackson5866 Год назад
Well done
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
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@johnplacca17
@johnplacca17 Год назад
I agree with you. Just stay the course and keep building. Plus everyone I feel shits on RJ and people were quick to throw him in packages. The kid is 22 years old. When hes 28 and if hes the same player then bitch.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Lol it's paying dividends now for them.
@ruckman8834
@ruckman8834 Год назад
Nice video
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
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@wil2k747
@wil2k747 Год назад
You were right about two things first we dodge a bullet and second cannot figure out J Randle... My only concern is what will they do with all those first-round picks after the season is over. it seems like this team will be ok between now and the end of the season no matter where they fall.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
More players will become available. They can make more trades. Or build from within since they haven't been able to attract big free agents. But we've seen the Knicks swing big and miss more often than not. Donovan Mitchell would've had some big performances. But would they be better than Celtics, Bucks, Sixers, Nets? No they'll be middle of the road like the Knicks always are. They got Thibs as coach who does somethings well but rotations and understanding modern offense eh.
@maximumbali1995
@maximumbali1995 Год назад
I with you on this they have the tendency to jump the gun and it seems the front office is not working well other wise there wouldnt be confusion in trades you guys got to be on the same page thats the only way it will work
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
They have to build it correctly. I'm 31. In my entire life I never seen a Knicks team built correctly outside the year they got 50 wins with Mike Woodson that's when Phil didn't want to keep Chandler and moved him for Dalenbert and Calderon 🤦🏿‍♂️
@maximumbali1995
@maximumbali1995 Год назад
@@thebsbpod got you by 12 years 43was around in the ewing era i seen it all and time that i watched them the knicks always take 2 steps back my era knows to trust not to trust the knicks
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@maximumbali1995 they straight ruined Ewing Career. Like you mean to tell you couldn't get him any help during that time. It's disgusting
@maximumbali1995
@maximumbali1995 Год назад
@@thebsbpod yeah they really screwed up there
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@maximumbali1995 like how you think Charles Smith and McDaniels are ok additions when you didn't get anyone on at least the level of Pippen. They got Houston and Spree too late.
@user-ks8lw7mi2k
@user-ks8lw7mi2k 10 месяцев назад
Get Paul George we need him
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod 10 месяцев назад
I think that would be good for the Knicks but I don't know if they going to make that move to George they got picks for something big. Wouldn't be surprised if they just waiting on Giannis
@sangfroid929
@sangfroid929 Год назад
The team was better served keeping and playing the current players on the roster. We don't even know what we have.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
This is true.
@yeshuaselah9478
@yeshuaselah9478 Год назад
Yeah thanks to Thibbs
@aubreywallace7918
@aubreywallace7918 Год назад
Those guys an grimes only see Today now" not down the road forgetting Talent Bloosoms as it grows only 20% might b overwhelmed
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Still believe this is the best path for them building
@davidbaker5610
@davidbaker5610 Год назад
Who is Isaiah Quickly?…. Bruh
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
www.basketball-reference.com/players/q/quickim01.html yeah I got it now lol my bad yall
@yunggpacino
@yunggpacino Год назад
Knicks are a first round exit if they make the playoffs now
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I believe even with Mitchell that would've been the result. They not beating any of the top five teams with or without him.
@marksalisbury6835
@marksalisbury6835 Год назад
PREACH On WARRIOR!! Wanna Be Red Auerbach (Danny Ainge), Was Trying To 😫 RIP OFF THE KNICKS!!!
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
People keep saying the Knicks would've been better and it's like barely the Cavs are constructed better
@m.h2839
@m.h2839 Год назад
Let's go new York Knicks
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Don't be fooled I like trolling the Knicks lol
@TheDPG63
@TheDPG63 Год назад
Yeah because the Knicks have RJ Barrett 😳
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
The Knicks roster would've been worse.
@TheOnlyRagsMorales
@TheOnlyRagsMorales Год назад
Thank you. Finally some clarity. Mitchell needs the Knicks more than the Knicks need Mitchell. Bet that. Anyone who thinks otherwise can go root for the Brooklyn dumpster fire.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I'm skeptical about the nets.
@TheOnlyRagsMorales
@TheOnlyRagsMorales Год назад
@@thebsbpod anytime you’re dealing with a mercurial personality, there skepticism. Much less 2.
@jerryangton408
@jerryangton408 Год назад
Mr. Rags DMITCHELL doesn't need the Knicks i think the other way around . he keep droping 30 plus on us
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@jerryangton408 HAHAHAHAHAHA
@jerryangton408
@jerryangton408 Год назад
the knicks need him more than he needs them . by the way he wanted to be there and knicks screwd up twice first jackson not drafting then world wide west not getting trade done . i think knicks can for get mitchell and trust me i hate that
@rashadpettifordpettiford6074
It's five months Julius will be an All-Star this year shows you don't know what can happen in the future
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Hey I said if he can get back to that all NBA level that was there best thing moving forward
@rashadpettifordpettiford6074
Thank you for explaining you are statements about Julius 👍
@willsmith-pz9kg
@willsmith-pz9kg Год назад
We have Stars play Cam he is a 6'8 shooting guard 6'8 play Obi 6'8 shooting guard unbelievable he can't get minutes
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
People are high on Reddish but Thibs is playing Quickly and Grimes in front of him. He's just not a fan. We'll see if he can play himself out the doghouse. But I fear the way Thibs coaches he could get hurt.
@babywatt1964
@babywatt1964 Год назад
The Knicks wouldn't be were they are if they'd traded all these pieces just for Donavan we're getting the same production from Brunson plus Brunson set's up the whole team on the floor Brunson have made his teammates better great none move by the Knicks for not trading our future for Donovan.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
No question. They would've been stuck.
@larrywallace9237
@larrywallace9237 Год назад
The Knicks record is better than it looked last year, they had no point guard at all and injuries a lot of Covid protocols. I think people will be surprised how good they will be this year because they play hard
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I could see it if Randle gets back to form. If he's gonna be a dud then they be in the play in.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Even if everything goes their way still play in bound.
@toddalcock6515
@toddalcock6515 Год назад
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@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Ok when did I say Mitchell isn't good?
@traffik180
@traffik180 Год назад
I believe Donavan Mitchell has a player option in his contract. So I'm pretty sure he won't opt in that year and test free agency. Now you still got your picks, guys like Barrett, Grimes, Obi, Quickley, McBride, Robinson, Brunson, and Simms will have those years to build more chemistry. Who knows one of them might be a star, and then you sign Mitchell as a free agent now you have something. Now I know everyone probably won't be here, but you get my point. Cause listening to Donavan Mitchell he's gonna wanna come home, and it will happen I believe. Now all the Knicks need to do is be competitive. Even in the east where teams are much better than the past. They just gotta build something this year and be in it at the end of the season.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I don't know about that. Cleveland is closer to New York than Utah. And leaving a chance to win to play in new York again similar to Melo we saw how that worked out. I think the Knicks just have to focus on putting a good team together similar to what Brooklyn did then swing for Giannis or another player when Available
@masbass1011
@masbass1011 Год назад
who is Isiah Quicley?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Yep yep it's Emmanuel I messed up on that dudes were killing me.
@masbass1011
@masbass1011 Год назад
@@thebsbpod i can imagine. good info, good point of view. keep it up.
@kamaurono9437
@kamaurono9437 Год назад
I agree touch for another small guard Quentin Grimes is going to be a star NBA player, be patient
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I don't know but if he can provide some defense on the perimeter that will help the Knicks. If he can be Thybulle with better offense that's a major win for the Knicks.
@rashadpettifordpettiford6074
Stop bugging sprewell was a good sign in Donovan will be a All-Star this year
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Donovan is always a dog. And yes he would've been an all star but like I said. Contract wise the Knicks would've been strapped for cap space. And no assets.
@elorahim3216
@elorahim3216 Год назад
This did not age well🥴🤣
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Y'all really think the Knicks would've been in better position than the Cavs? Lol smh
@mr.carlosnyc9433
@mr.carlosnyc9433 Год назад
Andrew Wiggins...?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
As a trade option for the Knicks? I don't think so. Maybe after his deal maybe they can find a way but trading I don't think so.
@redsly571
@redsly571 Год назад
Mannnn, this video just popped up for me, literally the exact same words that i was saying about donovan mitchell trade, ainge saved us, starting lineup would be brunson mitchell cam reddish who is playing 0 mins rn randle and hartenstein, that would be probably the worst defensive team in the league, we wouldnt even make the playoffs maybe and we traded everything away.. Thats whats scares me to this day because its the same front office who made that offer, im still for trading randle and just taking this and only this year for the getting high pick but that will not happen, the problem is we do not have anybody who can be the number one player on championship team and with kevin durant situation its seems like that guy cant be acquired via trade because you are giving up your whole team and future, so we will trade for some star like zach lavine unfortunately and be random for few years and then blow it up again instead of just this year getting high pick and for example pairing scoot with jalen brunson..
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Thats all im saying. Like the Knicks always cross the street before looking both ways lol Like that move wouldnt have done them any favors especially with no draft picks, now young guys, no cap space they wouldnt have been better than any of the top 5 teams in the east right now. So its like keep building, maybe hit in the draft or set up to trade come draft time and be ready to continue to build this roster. I still think thibs is a big hurdle cause he's just good enough to turn things around but his offense and stubbornness could wear thin especially come playoff time. The move they are trying to make hasnt shown up as yet rather rushing for a quick fix like the =y did with Stephin Maurbury back in the day and signing all these players that dont fit, or signing a player with crazy injury history like Amre, or even Carmelo when they were building a team Phil jackson decides hey Mike Woodson isnt the guy, and oh we dont need tyson chandler lol
@jl4472
@jl4472 Год назад
Who tf is Isaiah quickley
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
www.basketball-reference.com/players/q/quickim01.html messed up his first name young boy who decent lol
@TheDPG63
@TheDPG63 Год назад
This didn't age well
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I disagree. Again he moves the needle for the Cavs not the Knicks. Not cause there wouldn't have been improvement but the Cavs Roster is simply better than the Knicks roster. The Cavs gave up barely anything to get Mitchell. Where as the Knicks would've have up quite a bit of their roster and picks to get Mitchell.
@digitalScribr
@digitalScribr Год назад
First of all Barrett is not worth that contract. He's more hype than results. Randall is a low IQ player. Still, I agree. They are in a good space right now, a flexible one. They have active hands on defense and most of the mistakes that cost them games is on offense. They need a shooter and another closer besides Brunson.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Barrett isn't worth it they did that after the deal fell through. They signed him and Robinson. Barrett is inefficient on 20 points per game. They hoping he can turn it around but I don't know. Randle produces and is playing well but Knicks gotta maintain flexibility.
@digitalScribr
@digitalScribr Год назад
@thebsbpod Been a fan the moment Pat Riley became head coach. Never owned a pair of Jordan's till my wife bought me a pair in 2015. Never seen a team be so ineffective in drafting and free agency. Was feeling some ways over them shipping Strickland out
@digitalScribr
@digitalScribr Год назад
@thebsbpod if Randal played Closer to the basket and stop trying to be a guard, he would be an Allstars
@nevillejackson5866
@nevillejackson5866 Год назад
As I said there's No reason for them to tread for Donavan. M .none whatsoever. However they did A great job by not doing that Tread
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Yeah I think they are smart to see what guys they can develop who can they move and they still have their picks. I think they should move on from thibs. But we'll see how long they stick with him.
@KOW123
@KOW123 Год назад
With that trade they woul not have made the playin lol. He does not play d. Get ride of thibbs after Randle is gone. Let's get some accuracy here. Angie's is a Jack and thinks management is a fool. Let's be honest
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I mean Danny was simply pushing cause what he got for the Rudy deal. I think he mainly got what he wanted out that deal and was seeing who else would be dumb enough and he was betting on the Knicks. And the Knicks for once I believe made a smart move. And regarding Mitchell again like I said in the video agreeing to that trade he doesn't move the needle for the Knicks cause how they are constructed.
@ogface3
@ogface3 Год назад
New York Knicks still need a star player and that star is Russell Westbrook Trade Julius Randall and Cam Reddish or Evan Fourier... 1) Jalen Brunson 2) Russell Westbrook 3) R.J. Barrett 4) Obi Toppin 5) Mitchell Robinson Jalen Brunson will play great with Russell Westbrook because he played good with Luka Doncic... Brodie is 6'4 and built like a mini tank let's get him now. LET'S GO KNICKS🏀🔵🔶️🔷️
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Russ is one of my favorite players all time. And I don't know if that's what they need. Maybe when Russ left OKC but now I don't see it.
@jerryangton408
@jerryangton408 Год назад
I am a knick fan but alot of these comments are just stupid. ok why are we still talking about it .it's over he will come home and kick our ass as usual go ahead and get Westbrick he kicks his but too. we will be at the b ottom again. can't wait for the season to start.
@ogface3
@ogface3 Год назад
@@jerryangton408 put some respect on his name Russell Westbrook and ur entitled to ur own opinions but not to ur own facts
@jerryangton408
@jerryangton408 Год назад
@@ogface3 you are. correct my friend Russell want cheat you lot of heart but he or R J is not the answer
@brienmacgearailt7801
@brienmacgearailt7801 Год назад
Agreed. DV upside is known he is 27, heʻs NOT a tier 1 player like KD, Jokic, Giannis, Embid, Luka, Bron or even Taytum, so why give up the ship? He does not have the upside of Zion, Lamelo, Ayton, Morant, Edwards or KAT. What upside does R.J Barrett have at 22 years old? At LEAST equal to DV currently and maybe more. That is not a trade that works for the knicks and DV is no KD worth gutting the club. Good no trade.
@tybo8377
@tybo8377 Год назад
He just turned 26 a couple days ago
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
They are better off building and waiting for the right guy to become available for trade.
@jasonwestbay5178
@jasonwestbay5178 Год назад
The Knicks didn’t talk to ainge and jazz never spoke to rose it was guys lower down talking about the trade
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Rose went to the wolves GM to reach out and start discussions with the Jazz GM Zanik, Ainge is the president. The GM works the deal and reports to Ainge
@rmika99
@rmika99 Год назад
This didn't age well.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Smh the Cavs are constructed better than the Knicks.
@rmika99
@rmika99 Год назад
@@thebsbpod wait, if the Knicks had Brunson, Don, RJ, Randle and Mitch, w/ Deuce, Quick, Grimes, Obi and Hart/Sims is not an equal or better roster than the Cavs current one? I have to disagree. The thing the Knicks struggle with when they play better teams is having "the guy", that's the missing piece and Don would have filled that void.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@rmika99 smh Donovan Mitchell was not a free agent. RJ, Grimmes and someone will be in the trade along with 3 picks lol
@rmika99
@rmika99 Год назад
@@thebsbpod Ainge wanted draft picks, Cavs only sent 3, we could have easily sent 5 or 6 with one of the young guys like Deuce and maybe Sims. Knicks have 9 1st picks in the next 5 drafts, what are we using them for, if not for a trade for a star? I guess what I'm saying is, we were in the driver's seat, because Don wanted to play here and we could have converted those picks into a star player. Water under the bridge, it's time to make that happen in the coming drafts/free agency. Make it happen Leon!!
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@rmika99 they also want RJ Barrett, Grimes and Topin in negotiations. Cavs sent players and picks.
@monkeyinalamborghini
@monkeyinalamborghini Год назад
The thing with roleplayers is their career averages look worse than their actual production. If it was possible to sign melo in free agency and keep chandler and gallo we would have been better off. They look like 12 ppg players but for their primes they were 15 points on good efficiency and we didn't replace them. We had guys like landry fields, balkman, anthony randolph and so on.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
The Knicks should've just waited until the off season they would've just been able to sign him and keep who they wanted. Melo was going there regardless
@rashadpettifordpettiford6074
Danny ainge was upset with the Knicks management coming to the game while he was still under contract Donovan Mitchell would have been a Knick that is why Danny Ange didn't want to deal with the Knicks a lot of those pics you said they want it wasn't true Danny was so upset he wanted to sign tamping papers against Knicks so management miss that deal up and yes they was going to trade RJ Barrett to Utah Donovan Mitchell said his self he thought the deal was done he was looking forward to coming to New York so it wasn't a mistake Donovan is a better player than RJ Barrett what's holding the New York Knicks back is New York themselves the front office
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
He flat out wasn't doing any Knicks trade without those picks.
@ronniejohnson5050
@ronniejohnson5050 Год назад
The knicks are Lucky Danny boy saved them from themselves, the knicks are not close to winning a chip right now, Cleveland can at least compete with the big dogs, NYK are two years away if our players develop the way I think they can, IQ game very similar to Jamal Crawford, RJ reminds me of young Jimmy Butler, Jimmy made himself into the player you see today he has said so on many occasions, if OBI can hit his 3 point shot at a 35% to 36% and develops a mid range game he'll be hard to deal with , Grimes I believe is more than a 3-D player, I believe he's a two guard that can make plays for other players, Mitchell Robinson the block nest monster, I think Mitch will a really good center if he develops a post move, Deuce I believe is pest on defense, and is pretty good at getting guys the ball, but he has to be able to hit shots, but I think these young guys will ball out this year, two things the Knicks have to do , they have to get Randall and Evan off this team , they have to let Cam play ,last thing that has to happen, if Thibodeau is stuck in his ways and plays these old guys and the Knicks are losing, he has to go
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I think they deff got saved by Danny looking to fleece them. Thibs should be fired. Not cause he can't coach he should just be a defensive specialist. They need to go after someone like Quinn Snyder or Nick Nurse if he wants out of Toronto. Deff get rid of Randle. I think new York is tired of him in two seasons. Hopefully the Knicks can rejuvenate him cause he's solid just needs to be engaged. I like some of the pieces the Knicks have. But I think they overpaid Brunson.
@ronniejohnson5050
@ronniejohnson5050 Год назад
I don't think so judging him by Kemba Walkers contract I think Its fair value, his game is very similar to Walkers and he got 4 years 140 million $$$ , and remember Jalen played his best ball when Luka wasn't on the court, just looking at his development I'd say he still hasn't reached his full potential, I really like Jalen he should have been a first round pick ,just like Mitch Dallas struck gold with that pick, with jalen and Grimes in the back court I'm ok with that, also a player I highly like, Jah Morant spoke highly of Jalen said he's baller and everybody slept on him, but they woke now, other players in the western conference said the same thing, Jalen is a three level scorer .mid range , three point shot 38% on 6 attempts a game, and attacks the rim with great efficiency, he's like the 47 highest paid player in the NBA, jalen has numbers similar to Terry Rozier and he got paid, if he plays like he did in Dallas we good
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Offensively we know he can get you 20+ but defensively like kemba is he gonna be able to hold his own there where the Knicks have struggled in that regard especially on the perimeter.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Thibs is a defensive coach but does he have the personnel to do so idk.
@ronniejohnson5050
@ronniejohnson5050 Год назад
That's why Grimes has to start, he will take on the high scoring guards, jalen is a willing defender he will try to play defense he's not James Harden or Trey Young on defense, he pretty decent ,as Long as RJ ,Mitch, Grimes, on the floor Jalens alright I more concerned if Randall is gonna show up and play defense, you can hide jalen on defense you can't hide Randall on defense
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
All you Knicks fans finding this video after Donovan 71 points get lost like are y'all kidding me y'all think all the picks and pie es y'all would've gave up y'all would've been in a better position than the Cavs? The Cavs have Garland, Mobley, Allen. Y'all would've had Brunson, Randle and Mitchell there's more upside with the Cavs than the Knicks plain and simple Not to mention Thibs is still the coach lol
@redmerk711
@redmerk711 Год назад
Bro, this didn't age well lmao
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Thibs as coach, Knicks losing depth in the trade, no way to get better cause no one wants Randle contract. Again he's better on the Cavs where they have a more complete roster than the Knicks
@redmerk711
@redmerk711 Год назад
@The Basketball Soapbox Mitchell is a force multiplier, the jazz never used him right, the knicks should have definitely made the trade, trying to hold on RJ Barrett who has not been effective or efficient, made no sense to me, prime example of over thinking and doubling down on ur mistakes
@rashadpettifordpettiford6074
Mr. Soap a lot of your opinions all wrong my opinions sprewell was it good signing for the team at that time the team should be worried about RJ Barrett my opinion he will never be All-Star just a good bench play he's not athletic enough garlin will be an All-Star before Barrett there is a lot more I can holler at you about but I see you're young I've been following the Knicks since since the seventies
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Spreewell was a good signing but where Ewing career was at it was too late. RJ Barrett deff have concerns about
@jeanseide2955
@jeanseide2955 Год назад
Who the hell is G Annis your credentials just got revoked 😊
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
🤔 Giannis Antetokunmpo?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
What you mean?
@jeanseide2955
@jeanseide2955 Год назад
The G is pronounced with a Y sound dude is a 2 time mvp and you still don’t know his name bro?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@jeanseide2955 ok.........have a good one man.
@yggbroski9936
@yggbroski9936 Год назад
aaand Spida just dropped 71/8/11 haha
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Knickstapes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 when did I say Mitchell isn't good? I said the Knicks would've been losing
@3333DeeCee
@3333DeeCee Год назад
Y'all keep talking about giving up too much like the Melo trade. Like Danillo Galinarri (however you spell his name) had such a great career. Lol. There's no way to put lipstick on this. Leon Rose screwed up. Donovan Mitchell will be be a better player for the next 10 years, than anyone the Knicks trade for or draft in that time period. He could have potentially been the greatest Knicks player ever. He's that talented, & he's only 25. Would anyone be surprised if he averaged 30 next year? And the Knicks didn't want to give up picks for him? And Quinton Grimes...???!!! That's a horrible example of overvaluing your roster & overplaying your hand. #Fireleonrose
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
What lol it wasn't just about Gallinari it's about the depth they gave up in the trade when they could've just waited until the off season. Signed Melo and have depth with Amar'e. When they made the trade they lost all their depth. And they screwed up how? Is Donovan even on the same level as Melo. I would argue he's a notch below. And with that small backcourt the Knicks wouldve had the same issue as Portland. Mitchell is not getting 30.
@3333DeeCee
@3333DeeCee Год назад
@@thebsbpod "depth" he says. Lol. They gave up Gallo & some bums. Totally the right move. If they would have waited, they would have risked him signing with someone else. That's what happens when you procrastinate: you risk losing your opportunity. Leon Rose now knows about that. Lol
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@3333DeeCee smh I don't agree. They definitely didn't give up bums. Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton and Mosgov, two first round picks, two second round picks, and two pick swaps. Like they aren't stars but they were damn good players and would've been nice around Melo! On top of that Melo wanted to go to New York! He wasn't going anywhere else!
@3333DeeCee
@3333DeeCee Год назад
@@thebsbpod Mitchell wanted to go to NY also. But he'll be averaging 25 points for Cleveland this year.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@3333DeeCee and they would've been in the play in losing meaning no damn progress
@alexbrammer677
@alexbrammer677 Год назад
This didn’t age well…
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Don't worry I'm making a response video as I reply lol
@SouthsideFYC
@SouthsideFYC Год назад
"The league know your desperate, you're the New York Knicks"!!! Lol Correct! I wish Knicks fans would listen to reasonable takes like yours but we're desperate & emotional. Nothing good ever comes from being desperate and emotional. This video is aging very well.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I addressed that in the video I have pinned. It's like Knicks have never made good moves being desperate
@SouthsideFYC
@SouthsideFYC Год назад
@@thebsbpod yes. I watched that video after I wrote my comment.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Much appreciated 👍🏾
@SouthsideFYC
@SouthsideFYC Год назад
@@thebsbpod sure thing *Subscribes
@denciarias2366
@denciarias2366 Год назад
All I hear about is star this star that, we will not be making that trade ever again. If a Star ever wants to be here he will sign on the dotted line, no more loaner rentals. I WANT MY STARS HOMEGROWN, all you impatient I want a star groupie knicks fans have no clue all y’all no is super teams, I WANT A STARTED AT THE BOTTOM NOW WE HERE NY TEAM. SO when Lebron James says he want to come to my o don’t wanna hear y’all groupies welcoming him he had his chance.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Lol I agree being home grown talent like with the Celtics. But y'all tried to get LeBron in 2010 and failed on the pitch.
@bkbk-rn6ny
@bkbk-rn6ny Год назад
This didn’t age very well.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
How so? If the Knicks moved for Mitchell losing those pieces and picks? How would they been better?
@bkbk-rn6ny
@bkbk-rn6ny Год назад
@@thebsbpod I more was talking about us being a play in team and about Julius’s trade value. We are aligned with the Donovan situation 100%. Imagine if Quick was balling out in Utah with Grimes rn??? Annnnnnd we gave up the picks and everything else? We’d be sick rn
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I guess I should say state your teams beforehand. But yeah it would've been interesting. Quickley is better than Clarkson imo. There would've been resistance on the perimeter with Grimes and he worked on his shot. Maybe a little better than what Utah is
@eddiewilks4874
@eddiewilks4874 Год назад
The Knicks historically have given up on Bernard king who could have paired with Ewing. King won a scoring title after the Knicks let him go. Gave away rod strickland because they had Marc Jackson and that’s ok I guess but then in short order got rid of Marc Jackson who subsequently gave them fits starting for the pacers in the playoffs. The Knicks are the dumbest franchise in sports whatever move they make is the WRONG!!! Move so bro gtfoh please
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
In fairness to the Knicks on Benard King I would've kept him but I understand. They were dumb cause they drafted make and Rod in back to back years then let both of them go. And left Ewing with no point guard. And nah I think them not jumping in this time I think they held their cards for a bigger play. See what you got in Barrett, See if Randle finds his game again, and see what the young guys can do. They aren't beating any of the top teams in the east with or without Mitchell lol you know so saying it was the wrong move I don't see that. Worst thing in the NBA you can be in the NBA is middle of the road where you not ascending or bottoming out.
@coachc125
@coachc125 Год назад
The Knicks blew it. Barrett, Grimes, and 3 picks would have been a good deal for them to get Mitchell.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
So you would've been cool paying Brunson, Mitchell, Randle all that money with no way to improve the team?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
And on top of that how much better they would've been with Mitchell?
@coachc125
@coachc125 Год назад
@@thebsbpod Better than they are now.
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@coachc125 let me rephrase the question are they in or out the play in?
@kevinwatson6879
@kevinwatson6879 Год назад
@@coachc125 Says who where is the defense coming from?
@guillermomclean8657
@guillermomclean8657 Год назад
Y'all didn't Dodge nothing but another miserable season
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
1. I'm not a Knicks fans. 2. It would've been a miserable season regardless with that trade lol 3. That move would've done nothing for the Knicks.
@johnbrown4447
@johnbrown4447 Год назад
Bro the knicks blew it they have all those young players and nothing to build on I woulda let them buns go
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Bums* lol I mean how much better are the Knicks with Mitchell and what potential stars you would Target?
@johnbrown4447
@johnbrown4447 Год назад
@@thebsbpod I feel like DM would have given them a real shot for the next 5 years trade dead line woulda been major for them this year and cam reddish could take RJ place the knicks have tooooooo many players that need to be paid that don’t move the needle that’s the major point DM actually makes them worth a look you’ll see when Cavs in the finals how much the knicks really blew it
@ronaldbarnes1746
@ronaldbarnes1746 Год назад
This dudnt age well. Bufoonery in hindsight
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
The Knicks would be worse with Mitchell cause what they would've had to give up.
@mr.cloakofdagger3957
@mr.cloakofdagger3957 Год назад
Nonsense ,they are going to wish that they did grab spider Mitchell because as currently constructed the Knicks suck and there coach is average at best without a prime d rose who made his career in Chicago .facts fanboys
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Lol well let's be logical they still would've had that coach and gutted the depth of their team. And had Brunson, Mitchell, Randle on big contracts and no one wants Randle. And then with the trade they wouldn't have any picks to attach to Randle.
@mr.cloakofdagger3957
@mr.cloakofdagger3957 Год назад
@@thebsbpod don't say I did not warn you about your coach Knicks fan?
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@mr.cloakofdagger3957 I'm not a Knicks fan. I know about thibs. He runs players into the ground and like Van Gundy his style doesn't fit this era NBA anymore.
@mr.cloakofdagger3957
@mr.cloakofdagger3957 Год назад
@@thebsbpod I stand corrected you are a Wiseman bruh .
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@mr.cloakofdagger3957 like dude ran Rose, Noah, and even Deng into the ground. He's pedestrian on the offensive end.
@bradleyjamerson3160
@bradleyjamerson3160 Год назад
Bruh your owner is a racist, good luck with the rebuild!!
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
Woah woah woah what team you talking? 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@bigchino3647
@bigchino3647 Год назад
Bradley stop telling lies on the internet! Dolan has employed more black folk than any other owner in the league.
@debeatz1012
@debeatz1012 Год назад
if you ask me utah didnt want enough they were doing the knicks a favor by taking barrett
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
I just don't believe the Knicks had enough to get the deal done as well. Plus they would've gave up to much they need to fire Thibs and get a coach that understands modern offense.
@debeatz1012
@debeatz1012 Год назад
@@thebsbpod i get what your saying but is it thibs fault the team can't shoot ? maybe they should guard the 3 better but you need good perimeter defenders to do so .... so if you ask me it is more of a talent problem
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@debeatz1012 deff a talent issue cause some of their young guys haven't developed, but I just think it's times for Thibs to step away. But overall that lightning in a bottle they caught a couple seasons ago is gone. The issue is the Knicks can't start another rebuild lol they are stuck so they have to have one of these young guys take a leap or keep swinging for a big star. If they added Mitchell he doesn't fix their defense. And it would've been the same problem.
@debeatz1012
@debeatz1012 Год назад
@@thebsbpod problem is the nba aint the place to develop you basically you are who you are and especially barrett aint it i don't know about toppin but i am not sold on him either
@thebsbpod
@thebsbpod Год назад
@@debeatz1012 I would let say that guys develop for sure in the NBA. But in the case of Thibs he got a short pull on guys same with doc Rivers.
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