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The Breakdown rugby show is back with John Kirwan and Jeff Wilson as they discuss South Africa losing to Ireland in the Rugby World Cup. #Breakdown
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@steve1234544
@steve1234544 Год назад
Mills is the only one in this panel I really appreciate. He certainly has a clear mind and is no muppet. RESPECT!! Mills.
@PietM749
@PietM749 Год назад
The other two are rattled. Mills don't talk nonsense to show off like Goldie and JK. They must realize they can't talk the AB's into the semi's. But they will have a long time to talk about the AB's weaknesses when the Irish or the French or SA beat them again.
@brianbetz7030
@brianbetz7030 Год назад
That's taking for granted that the A.B.s will make the quarter finals.
@louisscott6214
@louisscott6214 Год назад
Can't stand Goldie, suprised he can see with his head so far up his on arse.
@mrange20
@mrange20 Год назад
Mils the most objective in commentary. Wilson and Kirwan seems very emotional in backing the AB's
@deselby6669
@deselby6669 Год назад
Kirwan forecast Ireland to beat AllBacks in that series in NZ back in 2022
@salomonligthelm14
@salomonligthelm14 Год назад
Especially Wilson!
@karelgericke9172
@karelgericke9172 Год назад
We don't take note if these $#@!% we let it matters on the field if these pundits are to stupid to realize that the Boks game against the Irishman was a real fake game of what the Boks are capable of then they shouldn't make comments, and with a different referee on the day the score would have been a different story.The Irishman got away with murder just listen to Nick Mallet and wake up.
@pricejoss
@pricejoss Год назад
Great comment, fully agree.
@wouterswanepoel5753
@wouterswanepoel5753 Год назад
Indeed. Mils is highly rated as a commentator in South Africa. Sadly, the other two are not. Oh, and just as a side: one of the reasons the Oceanians (once known as the All Blacks) is facing an uphill (future) battle is because their three academies (Tonga, Samoa and Fiji) have now gone solo with increasingly spectacular results. The islanders are now finding much more lucrative opportunities in Europe (and in their national teams) and will undoubtedly find New Zealand (and the All Blacks) far less attractive in years to come.
@peterbotha7098
@peterbotha7098 Год назад
Once again Mills is the only rugby brain present here. JK in love with his own voice as usual…
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Год назад
John's the worst, Andrew Mertins and Sean Fitzpatrick also bottom of the barrel scum...
@robhallie
@robhallie Год назад
Wilson is such an eejit. Always states the bloody obvious. And gets paid for it
@bolivianbillionaire1349
@bolivianbillionaire1349 Год назад
yep......the butcher's apprentice is someone who seems to have tin-arsed his way through life...... thick as two short planks......
@georgefrederikoosthuizen891
From safa i agree with u 100%
@ct1502
@ct1502 Год назад
I feel bad for nz rugby supporters if this is the level of punditry when they have one (Mils) who knows going on in world rugby and two just stroke the ego of the good old days.
@mollyoko
@mollyoko Год назад
Southern Hemishphere need to make their own version of the 6 nations including the Island teams, possibly Japan. One game against each country. Winner takes all.
@remotelogic8569
@remotelogic8569 Год назад
That is what Super Rugby did by creating southern dominance. But NZ and Oz decided they knew better and chased the money by pushing SA out. And now the proof is in the pudding....
@John-YV
@John-YV Год назад
i like it
@unklmic
@unklmic Год назад
Winner takes all what?
@Andy-bf8os
@Andy-bf8os Год назад
New zealand and Oz can play the island teams and Japan, us saffas are over all your guys shit. We can do an old school tour to new zealand and Australia
@wouterswanepoel5753
@wouterswanepoel5753 Год назад
Distances mate. Distances. A round trip from Dublin to Paris is 1 560 km. Round trip from Johannesburg to Auckland is 24 376 km. And that is the reason why South African teams always found it hard to win in New Zealand. It is well known (and scientifically proven) that travelling east is faaaaaaaar more taxing than travelling west.
@johanbarnard3435
@johanbarnard3435 Год назад
That game between the Boks and Ireland was a 50/50 game that could easily have gone the other way. The top 4 sides are incredibly close to eachother and this will make the Qurterfinals really intense. It's honestly impossible to predict who will win between SA vs France and ABs vs Ireland.
@columkenn
@columkenn Год назад
England and even Wales are both still capable of upsetting the top 4 too. Both teams have potential to be alot better than their form coming into the tournament. Could be some surprises yet
@agape777
@agape777 Год назад
That Springboks side would have beaten the ABs for sure. Easily.
@Bokgat
@Bokgat Год назад
The top three sides are Nz is slightly further behind
@ElwynManungo
@ElwynManungo Год назад
​@@agape777I don't agree with you on that one. The AB did beat the Boks in the battle of the Southern Hemisphere. AB lost to the Boks in the warm up match before the WC. I still feel the AB are more superior and you can only write them off at your own peril. Ireland have to go past the AB to win this WC I feel. Good as they are I still feel the real test is yet to come in the form of the AB.
@ElwynManungo
@ElwynManungo Год назад
​@@BokgatNZ are the Southern Hemisphere champions by the way.
@Manu_251.
@Manu_251. Год назад
Good to be seeing you. 🏉🇮🇪
@barryclarke8101
@barryclarke8101 Год назад
Rugby in the professional era still growing in ireland but still behind Gaelic football, hurling and soccer...seems like no matter what ireland do, taking into account their playing pool, these guys struggle to give the team and indeed irfu, the credit they deserve..lesson for irfu, with similar competition player pool wise, is to look at what's happening to the great Australia. Past winners. If it can happen to them it could happen to us. Really important to keep promoting the game here.
@cabraonropes5622
@cabraonropes5622 Год назад
Absolute bollocks, Irish soccer is terrible the league is one of the worst in Europe and can’t even get into Europe, Gaelic and hurling is not even a professional sport people don’t do it for a full time job, Rugby and teams like Leinster dominate the European scene at times and is without a doubt the best sport and team we have and have had for years
@MrJameshols
@MrJameshols Год назад
No it's not absolute bollocks. Rugby is the 4th most popular / played sport in Ireland
@StiofanGaillimh
@StiofanGaillimh Год назад
​@@cabraonropes5622Absolute bollocks? What! In Ireland Rugby does not have the same pulling power as the GAA and soccer, and it n where near as popular.
@alandalton7652
@alandalton7652 Год назад
Soccer is far behind rugby union in Ireland 🇮🇪
@fuzzylogiceire
@fuzzylogiceire Год назад
​@@alandalton7652In quality, yes. But not in participation and fan interest.
@immortalhahn
@immortalhahn Год назад
I think rassie and Jacque was hiding alot of things before the quarter finals. I think their game will change completely when it comes to the quarter finals. Or let's hope so at least.
@TheSoetie
@TheSoetie Год назад
The boys weren’t really gutted after the game. Rassie always is 5 steps ahead all the time. The Boks will win this overall. Sorry chaps but well done 👍
@lilalife666
@lilalife666 Год назад
he would definitely have preffered to face NZ though, it's just hopium on your part to think that they didnt try everything to beat Ireland.. Rassie is great, but don't let the facts mirror a distorted image of that@@TheSoetie
@johnjames6620
@johnjames6620 11 месяцев назад
@@lilalife666 Time has shown otherwise! It seemed to us South Africans that we weren't besotted with winning the Irish game because we realize that the RWC is a marathon and going all out in a pool game risks players getting injured or red-carded. There was some suggestions that we would prefer France in the quarter finals. Where things stand now, 3 of the 4 semi-finalists lost a pool game and of the 4 teams that one all their pool games, only one survives. This seems to show that winning all pool games is not the be all and end all.
@ShaunRL
@ShaunRL Год назад
Ireland are pretty much always kicking to the corner in all tests including 6 nations and not taking the 3 points as JK says. They back themselves to score tries.
@antoneverbright
@antoneverbright Год назад
Wont work against a good goalkicking team. Aka France. They beat ireland 3 of their last 4 matches under Galthié
@daviiidoff
@daviiidoff Год назад
@@antoneverbrighteh yes it will and yes it has as we’ve seen this six nations ..
@antoneverbright
@antoneverbright Год назад
@@daviiidoff home advantage, Ireland Will go home 👏
@daviiidoff
@daviiidoff Год назад
@@antoneverbright you guys will choke final against us just you wait and see
@wouterswanepoel5753
@wouterswanepoel5753 Год назад
@@daviiidoff The Boks will definitely be in the final. The question is who will earn the honour of getting smashed by the Boks in the final, like the "invincible" English who got smashed 32-12 by the Boks in 2019's final.
@isaacmolefenyokong7776
@isaacmolefenyokong7776 Год назад
"We are good enough.." hahaha. You are a has been good enough mate. Mils, your observations as classy as your playing days used to be.
@Andrew-yp6ov
@Andrew-yp6ov Год назад
very fair assessment in my opinion, from an Irish fan
@superbowljoel01
@superbowljoel01 Год назад
Jeff is such a homer. Like hall of fame level homerism.
@hendrivanwyk6033
@hendrivanwyk6033 Год назад
😂 Sounds correct.
@harryf1ashman
@harryf1ashman Год назад
homer or homo?
@TheDruzza
@TheDruzza Год назад
Yea hea a fkn tool
@Bokgat
@Bokgat Год назад
And pissed off as well that he got all the push back over that famous SA loss. What a doos. He’ll be axed soon finally. At least Justin Marshall saw the sinking ship for what it is
@marchickey4017
@marchickey4017 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@MrRugbylane
@MrRugbylane Год назад
Did I miss the New Zealand v Italy game? Or the France Italy game for that matter ??
@NathanAAASmith
@NathanAAASmith Год назад
Not saying that South Africa aren’t still favourites but they are vulnerable under pressure, we saw that against The All Blacks in Auckland and now the Irish. Test Matches are won & lost up front and often from the resulting penalties. Converting that dominance into points is the key. Richie Mccaw often spoke about it coming down to the team that takes their opportunities being the ones that come out on top.
@YoutubeStandardLicense
@YoutubeStandardLicense Год назад
Ireland are very like the ABs in 2015 - almost a complete squad.
@wihanvanzyl4564
@wihanvanzyl4564 Год назад
Easy now, no one is like the ABs of that era.
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv Год назад
These guys are in denial. The AB’s are very much up against it.
@davidjames1923
@davidjames1923 Год назад
Not denying that but Ireland were meant to beat us last WC and we hammered them ... Ireland should do it though, and to be fair if any team deserves the WC it's them ... Been good for a while now.
@pietersock4078
@pietersock4078 Год назад
Lovit they write us off, we love it !!! Sa fan
@markstar6056
@markstar6056 11 месяцев назад
Can’t believe Ireland is even considered in the same league as NZ and SA. We’ve always underperformed in Rugby World Cups never gotten past the quarterfinals. And now we have bloody NZ next, very tough draw for us 😢
@richarddunn1465
@richarddunn1465 Год назад
Not taking anything away from Ireland, they are playing fantastic rugby and deserve their current praise and position, however, how many times did a seemingly unbeatable Allblack team come up short in the world cup knock out phase? Pressure, weight of expectation, lack of experience in knock out rugby and a 'in game turning of the tide' such as a card, the run of play or just the best day from the opposition and the 'favourites' are out. People love to knock the ABs (tall poppy syndrome) especially in these last few years, but they've been there and done it. There are plenty of shocks to come in this world cup and something tells me the quarter finals with all of the above in mind will produce the biggest shock(s) of all
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
Those all black teams were over hyped with no evidence that they could play the way people thought. To me the jury is still out with Ireland.
@alanfox6454
@alanfox6454 Год назад
I can see why NZ pundits want Wayne Barnes. Ever since Barnes very poor performance in 2007 1/4 final game against France, Barnes has been played by the All Blacks and hes awarding more penalties for NZ than any other ref and the opposite can be said for Ireland. On average hes awarded 2 more penalties than any referee per game against Ireland against any nation. Not hard see why they would want that ref. Complete joke if both sides get out of group and hes chosen
@donaghgavin8132
@donaghgavin8132 Год назад
On IRL lineout..granted it misfired, but if you review SA encroached on lineout..they were stepping on IRL toes..they were shoulder to shoulder..no 1m distance..how was Kelleher meant to be accurate
@okedokeerolchoke9929
@okedokeerolchoke9929 Год назад
Just want the best team (of the 4!) to win….until you hear biased pundits…then want them to lose
@MR.EyE.
@MR.EyE. 11 месяцев назад
So satisfying watching this knowing we just won our 4 WC🇿🇦
@davidjames1923
@davidjames1923 Год назад
Anyone opposing the ABs, I wouldn't be too overly confident ... We have been inconsistent but have turned it on under tons of pressure against some top teams ... Though, if we are to beat Ireland (which we are capable of but I don't think we will) we won't win the semi. We've become a bit like France used to be in my mind ... Brilliant one week, average the next ... If we do lose to Ireland, fair play to them ... Been exceptional the last few years so it'll be well deserved and a first semi final will be amazing for them. But, I def would not count out the ABs ... Just got to see what happens on the day but Ireland are looking good and good luck to them. Though please win ABs haha ... Oh, that is if we get passed Italy haha ...
@Chingalo2006
@Chingalo2006 Год назад
Well, you definitely did Italy good, Mate, I've always said it, Ireland are not World Cup pedigree... We are just too bloody small. We fight well as underdogs and get crucial wins at unimportant times, but man, knockout rugby just isn't our thing. I could be wrong, but we always seem to crack when our squad and ideals are tested at knockout level. Tournaments and shots to nothing are great, we go hell for leather, but we were never conquerors, we have endemic impostor syndrome please god I'm wrong, Eire Abu!
@Craig-ls6rv
@Craig-ls6rv 11 месяцев назад
Correct about the competition. Munster ( Irelands best team ) play a lot of high level European games throughout the year as well as the 6 nations tournament for most of their players.
@roboconnor8079
@roboconnor8079 Год назад
Over the last two years in the north there has been a decidedly big shift away from kicking points and more kicks to the corner.
@salomonligthelm14
@salomonligthelm14 Год назад
“I don’t think that (a loss) worries them (SA) very much” - no truer words spoken. We (Boks) might not go all the way, but they will use this loss to inspire them, but I don’t know whether a loss would have done the same for Ireland.
@colingibson5966
@colingibson5966 Год назад
Lost 1st test to NZ and come back stronger won the series. Lost a game in 6 nations to France came back next year and won the grandslam. 28 wins from 30 tells you all you need to know about this ireland sides mentality.
@brettfleiner4906
@brettfleiner4906 Год назад
@@colingibson5966 It's different at a RWC though mate. Knowing their history, Ireland will begin to feel the pressure of the 1/4 finals coming. While they will certainly be determined to change their record, the thought will still be there as a slight distraction. Not writing them off at all, just pointing out the obvious.
@jamesmaguire9001
@jamesmaguire9001 Год назад
I think you’re right. The recent scars from La Rochelle/Leinster may have reopened. For that reason I think Ireland winning this game could have an equally inspiring effect on them as a team.
@pazzct
@pazzct Год назад
Its not so much the loss, its the tactical work arounds that clearly failed boks now need to decide do they persist or go backwards to the old game.... in otherwards they kind of forced into a corner abit.
@zukisamhlakaza2218
@zukisamhlakaza2218 Год назад
Big match for South Africa 🇿🇦 vs Tonga 🇹🇴
@thegreytone
@thegreytone Месяц назад
Yes Mills, it was all about positioning on the log!!
@patrickryan5570
@patrickryan5570 Год назад
There's 4 teams that are evenly matched for the World Cup title - Ireland, France, South Africa & New Zealand - It is very hard to call it.
@andrevolker
@andrevolker Год назад
I'm a rugby fan but not in the slightest someone who knows the game to analyse it. That being said; the AB's will have a chance to knock Ireland out of the tournament. But wouldn't that be a disappointment, considering how the Irish totally owned the AB's on the tour, and how SA destroyed the AB's not too long ago? The world cup final deserves the best teams to play in it, and atm those teams are Ireland and either France or SA. Don't get me wrong i love NZ rugby, in a sense they represent what rugby has been about for a century, but the thought of them eliminating one of those gargantuan teams who played the other night seems rather disheartening.
@rhino2992
@rhino2992 Год назад
If Ireland lose to the All Blacks in a clean game with no stupid officiating decisions, then Ireland didnt deserve to make the final.
@pazzct
@pazzct Год назад
both teams going to bring out underhand tricks it's just how they play game will never be clean .... thats why refs are so notorious in rugby who will get away with more !!!!! @@rhino2992
@jonbrook4009
@jonbrook4009 Год назад
So a quarter final between ABs and Ireland is basically southern hemisphere guys in black playing southern hemisphere guys in green. Can't wait.... 😎
@trevorburns3634
@trevorburns3634 Год назад
Is that a touch of green envy on cc's face?
@joewhelan5018
@joewhelan5018 Год назад
I haven't heard anything from this panel that will shake up Ireland
@TheWonderofCichlids
@TheWonderofCichlids Год назад
Two very humble All Black fans and an objective Mils keeping it real...
@PeerAdder
@PeerAdder Год назад
Interesting points about development in NZ and Aus. Is Super Rugby really that super?
@marythornton50
@marythornton50 Год назад
Still all talk about SA! Hardly a mention of Ireland. But thats OK. We’re happy to stay waaaay under the radar
@clidenmichaels4771
@clidenmichaels4771 Год назад
Thought Kirsty was gonna get fired there for a second 0:58 😂
@markbrown-sb2zm
@markbrown-sb2zm Год назад
Respect to Mils for his objective opinion.JW and JK werent as good as they think.
@Blackcat-yx4ii
@Blackcat-yx4ii Год назад
Listen bokke fans we need to stop barking at them😂 they afraid to give criticism on our team. Dont Listen to them panel critique the boks how you feel like😂
@raffles7556
@raffles7556 Год назад
South Africa should never have gotten away with the constant encroachment at line out.
@ruanoosthuysen5002
@ruanoosthuysen5002 Год назад
Mills is the most rational here. Also, Luke Pearce is the best ref in the world by a long shot. We have to be real
@darren1989
@darren1989 Год назад
Everyone talking about the kicks but of Ireland had their line out in form , could have scored a try or two in that case
@drhughied
@drhughied Год назад
Actually what isn't mentioned is that the SA try came from a kick coming off the upright.
@KO.....
@KO..... Год назад
What makes you think winning a line out is a certainty of a try? When Ireland started winning lineouts in the later part of the game how many tries did they score?
@washerdryer3466
@washerdryer3466 Год назад
@@KO.....3 of those lineouts were on the SA 5m line...If SA can relentlessly cry abot ifs, buts and maybes then the Irish can too. 😉😉
@KO.....
@KO..... Год назад
@@washerdryer3466 big difference between converting a kick vs actually scoring a try from a line out. In any case losing line outs to a team that's actually good at winning opposition line outs is not even in the same league as making kickable conversions. Having said all that, Ireland were still very impressive. To defend the way they did is championship type stuff. For me that is the take away.
@darren1989
@darren1989 Год назад
@@KO..... just like there's no guarantee that Pollard would have kicked the points. I'm sure next time Johnny will kick the 3 penalties over instead of down the line if they meet in the final
@johansteyn8526
@johansteyn8526 9 месяцев назад
Only the kicking that let the boks down.
@danielvickeysmall1314
@danielvickeysmall1314 11 месяцев назад
Ireland's forward pack are going to run through us. Our defence has been absolute shit since Wayne Smith left. Fingers crossed for the boys (NZL) though. New Zealand as a nation would much rather loose to Ireland than to France, South Africa or England. Everyone i have talked to has been cheering for Ireland for decades and if they beat us our household will be cheering for them all they way to the finals.
@paulholmes3366
@paulholmes3366 Год назад
I'm Irish, to the absolute core, we are flying yes, but no way not for one second will I say well win the world cup, hope we do there's 2 things, 1 Scotland are still in with a shout and won't be simple I expect us to win it but will be tough, 2 New Zealand, their quiet and their a team to be feared, France beat them but they poked the bear, I don't fear France I think Ireland have their number all day long, but New Zealand are different gravy.
@michaelhussey440
@michaelhussey440 Год назад
Im surprised to hear Mils saying that the Northern countries are making better players out of the Kiwi talent that they have gained. That bodes well for us and is ominous for the ABs.
@heki03
@heki03 11 месяцев назад
There's a first time for everything i suppose!the korero from Sir John Kirwan was right on the button, it's about the game coming up next and who has the team that's firing!don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for what he has said previously but, he's pretty close to being on point, rankings are out the window, it's business time now! Let's go "ALL BLACKS "
@holitipu
@holitipu Год назад
I just love tha fact...that...for the first it seems...no one is talking about New Zealand at this world cup. It s all about SA France and Ireland . That s a good thing i mean ...not an anti kiwi comment btw
@swavgav31
@swavgav31 7 месяцев назад
I'm still not over our defeat to New Zealand...
@keithstritch1217
@keithstritch1217 Год назад
Can we all agree .The newzealand pundits are deluding themselves...look what the the boks done to them in the warm up match..IT WILL be ireland v south africa in the final.... COME ON IRELAND 🇮🇪
@wihanvanzyl4564
@wihanvanzyl4564 Год назад
I back your team to meet my Boks in the final. Epic times!
@noelbyrne8735
@noelbyrne8735 Год назад
Ireland were kicking for the side line when they should have been kicking for points, and visa/versa with South Africa….One would wonder if some of those decisions by both teams were on purpose.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
Ireland were kicking tactically so as to force SA to start building play from the back which sucked life out of the SA game. The type of game SA like to play is very tight in defence and then pushing their opposition back through a very intensive pressure game. Ireland never allowed the natural SA game to get off the ground.
@noelbyrne8735
@noelbyrne8735 Год назад
@@Art-is-craft In regards to Ireland, I was referring to the early penalties that were kicked into touch past South Africa’s 22. It was obvious Ireland were intending to go for try’s via mauls, or were going to run the ball and pressure play up the middle trying to suck defenders In and then passing out wide to score. Ireland knowing that South Africa have great line out/Maul defense, coupled with their line out misfiring makes one wonder why they didn’t kick for those points….Seems to amateurish of Ireland to keep kicking for the line out considering. You could also argue that Ireland left at least 9 points on the field due to those decisions. In regards to South Africa, I was referring to the penalties missed at goal in the second half. South Africa knowing they didn’t have a good kicker and had more weight/size in their pack, should have kicked those penalties into touch and went for the line out/Maul, which more than likely would have scored them a couple of try’s if they had done so. You could also argue that they left more than 9 points on the field from those missed penalties.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
@@noelbyrne8735 Ireland did not kick for points because the knew that would allow SA to have a higher pitch position to build from. Ireland wanted to keep that ball deep in SA territory. The primary reason to do that is due to SA not having a culture in their game of building playing from their backs. The SA back line is most dangerous when SA play high pressing game inside the oppositions half.
@noelbyrne8735
@noelbyrne8735 Год назад
@@Art-is-craft I understand what your saying, but I have to disagree mate. I think Ireland were pressing hard for early try’s as they often do, but I’m surprised a curious as to why they continued with the line outs, especially after missing the first two . Very unlike Ireland to turn down so many opportunities to get points on the board early on.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
@@noelbyrne8735 Ireland repeatedly played for line outs even when they knew SA had a superior line out. They did that knowing that SA could not handle Irelands pressing game. Ireland sucked the air out of SA game. It got to the point that SA was kicking penalties at incredible distance.
@Bozo-Ire
@Bozo-Ire Год назад
Let's get the job done against scotland first. They'll be chomping.
@aileinoclumhain8399
@aileinoclumhain8399 11 месяцев назад
We'll see Zombie.. in your heads.. in your heads 🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪🏆🎶🎵💚💚💚
@roblouw3038
@roblouw3038 Год назад
calling these guys pundits is like calling me Elon Musk - just ridiculous....
@Tha46EEL
@Tha46EEL Год назад
The coaches went offshore is the key point ya missed
@michaelkenny8574
@michaelkenny8574 Год назад
All this was was a positioning game....blow it out your back end Jeff. The rugby world couldn't stop talking this game up, This was a monumental game. South Africa caved. And the All Blacks have a mountain to climb with that 'fire in their belly' if they think they could beat Ireland or South Africa based on current form.
@gregwaghorn8496
@gregwaghorn8496 Год назад
To say Ireland beat SA. But if there kicker was on song. SA would have one easily. So Ireland had penalties against them that were kick able. As an AB supporter
@carlwillemse8081
@carlwillemse8081 Год назад
Missing SA teams in club competition.
@johannsmit1694
@johannsmit1694 Год назад
As a Boks supporter, I am actually concerned about the AB’s at the moment. Mills says they have the fire power to beat IRE, which is true, but they havent fired for a few games now. I actually thought they were hurt after the SAvNZ game at Twickenham and they are going to smash the French, which they didn’t do. They have lost 5 of 8 games vs IRE since 2016. I really don’t see the AB beating the Irish at the moment which is sad, there must be something wrong in the camp.
@taintabird23
@taintabird23 Год назад
Yes, it couldn't be that the Irish are any good. Must be a problem with the New Zealanders. Pathetic.
@martinfinlay5971
@martinfinlay5971 Год назад
I still think New Zealand will be a tougher game. This Irish side will have to play better
@andrewwalsh6177
@andrewwalsh6177 Год назад
All the knockout games will be very tight anything could happen
@Khanya08
@Khanya08 Год назад
Cannot wait for JK and Goldie's comments after Quarter finals week...
@AliKay3011
@AliKay3011 Год назад
It's possible neither of these two teams would make it to the final. France and NZ are contenders in their own right. Wales and England are building nicely, are on the right side of the draw and historically over perform at world cups. Fiji and Argentina can cause upsets. It's tournament rugby not a test series so you only have one go at the opposing team come finals time. You have to be at 100 percent to win. If you're off by just a bit then you're cooked and there's no tomorrow to have another go so the best team don't always win - something we NZ fans have learnt the hard way!
@markjohnson6968
@markjohnson6968 Год назад
Wait what? Ireland wasn't tested before the world cup? Did I hear that right? In the last 2 years, they've beaten France, Australia, South Africa and won the test in New Zealand Also winning the grandslam at the six nations How on earth has Ireland not been tested? How can you say that?
@davidfife-nm7uy
@davidfife-nm7uy Год назад
Totally agree
@permertecrackers8419
@permertecrackers8419 Год назад
He meant like recently in the warm up games and opening pools games
@markjohnson6968
@markjohnson6968 Год назад
@permertecrackers8419 even then I still disagree Samoa came at them in horrible conditions, and there in the hardest group in the tournament beating the world champions I dont think it could have been any harder for Ireland
@shanefelkel9966
@shanefelkel9966 Год назад
Maybe he meant that Ireland wasnt tested by getting from Paris airport to Toulon or Marseilles without a tour guide. He surely wasnt talking about the sport of Rugby.
@HemiJB91
@HemiJB91 Год назад
World cup rugby is different. Rankings don't mean shit. Boks have never been ranked 1 coming into the 3 cups they won. Ireland doesn't have a world cup reputation. Only for known as choking under big pressure games , not hating on Ireland but this Boks game was there big test in world cup competition. They did well and now can they advance further than ever ? On paper they are complete team but qtr finals will only tell.
@gomey70
@gomey70 Год назад
As an Irishman, I'm still keeping my hopes in check. We've had good teams in the past and still never made it past the quarters. And any NZ team should be treated with respect. This Irish side does seem to just know how to win though. The atmosphere would be amazing for that game.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
Ireland did not have good teams in the past. What Ireland had was overhyped teams with two or three talented players. Irish rugby has been evolving for the last three decades. They fired Gatland because he insisted in playing winning but backwards game. Ireland have insisted on playing ball in hand rugby even when past teams were unable to do it.
@jimbo1706
@jimbo1706 Год назад
Yup. The difference this time round is that if the ABs put us out, it won't be because we choked, but rather because the ABs have rediscovered their mojo
@murrayclarke2171
@murrayclarke2171 Год назад
Never THIS good mate.
@ferdinandimposter691
@ferdinandimposter691 Год назад
Can't help but think Ireland are heading for a sucker punch against ABs. They were so pumped up to beat SA they may have got ahead of themselves emotionally. Or an even worse scenario for them, make the final and lose to boring old England!
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
@@jimbo1706 NZ are not confident at the moment and there is a good reason for that.
@schneidervonhammer722
@schneidervonhammer722 Год назад
Ireland are a beast of a side- and the key is the play as a team - All 23 players are in sync with each other - its like a hive mind/ one brain , the decision-making the composure in tight situations. They are well worth their 93 point rating. It will take a monumental effort for a team to beat them.
@deselby6669
@deselby6669 Год назад
Get the impression they are a band of brothers.They play for each other and are all invested in the whole..
@JACKAL98
@JACKAL98 Год назад
Ye as a kiwi it scares me, and then theirs fucking france we gotta deal with first we might be fucked
@bradrockl8330
@bradrockl8330 Год назад
I thought so too until I watched Saturday's game back, they are a bunch of cheaters,they will not survive against AB hope Ben o keefe stays far away from the whistle
@heej75
@heej75 Год назад
​@@bradrockl8330go back to bed horse!
@christianmccann9400
@christianmccann9400 Год назад
​@@bradrockl8330pathetic mate .. you lost 3 times in a row to Ireland
@SeanT649
@SeanT649 Год назад
The “experts “ here are deluded .South Africa did not take a step backwards they just lost a match .These guys sound desperate .
@pazzct
@pazzct Год назад
They may have but it may soot them .... going back to 2019 playing style loading.......
@howtz4968
@howtz4968 Год назад
Looking forward to meeting the ABs again and playing a great game. These pundits were crying after Ireland won the test in New Zealand. See you on the pitch.
@kieronduffin2067
@kieronduffin2067 Год назад
That 2 week break for Ireland after the SA game is massive! Think they're too good for Scotland. Can't see why they won't beat NZ. It ain't going well in the overall with Ian Foster. I've no doubt Razor will make a massive difference after the WC.
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Год назад
I think New Zealand rugby will struggle to recover going forward. They are now isolated from global rugby, what Super Rugby offered was tours and strong competition. In 2025 South Africa will leave the Rugby Championship and join the 6 nations. There's no will from South Africa to rejoin the South and we are looking to expand into other markets as our game needs to grow! Be realistic now, Australia needs to make a real 180 as do Argentina Japan and the islands in order to have a league going forward... we talking a few years and alot of commitment from all parties. Without competition NZ is going nowhere!
@kieronduffin2067
@kieronduffin2067 Год назад
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb you sure that's going ahead with SA going to the 6 nations!? Ridiculous if so. Was chatting to a few SAffers about it, they didn't agree with it either. 100% agree that the islands and Japan should be forming something. Argentina I'm surprised aren't improving since Los Pumas started up. Australia are backwards for years it seems with the same committee who have 0 forward thinking in terms of development.
@AM-dj1wr
@AM-dj1wr Год назад
​@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbSad but true.
@murup4R4
@murup4R4 Год назад
​​@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbNZ has always been isolated from global rugby. We are just one country less now SA left. Why NZ is in situation it is in now is because the current management has failed in developing our game. Instead of innovating, progressing, and developing our own unique vision of rugby, we have instead based our strategy on reacting to northern hemisphere rugby styles. And when this strategy was seen to not work, we keep using it expecting it to somehow change results. It's as if management are self focused and are trying to save face.
@pauljansen6650
@pauljansen6650 Год назад
It's a 1 week break not a 2 week break, it's 1 game day off
@wobblertv8083
@wobblertv8083 Год назад
Kirwin and Wilson are like Waldo and Stattler from the Muppets. ..Thank god for Mills ...a proper balanced view .
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 Год назад
Make no mistake, the quarter final with the abs is the ultimate test. Exact same fixture 4 years ago and it was a slaughter. The only enemy Ireland have now is history. Can they do it? Theyre in damn good hands.
@SMacCuUladh
@SMacCuUladh Год назад
Yes they can do it, I believe they are better and should win it, Ardie is only thing that can stop us.
@agape777
@agape777 Год назад
The real question is are SA better than the ABs. I think at this time they are head and shoulders above the ABs. Based on that Ireland will beat ABs, not by many but definitely more than 5 points. The ONLY thing that will stop Ireland is their mindset of historical failures at QF and personally I think they have put many many past failures to the sword this last 2 years - there is no better year for them to conquer this hurdle. Yes, Ireland will win.
@thegreytone
@thegreytone Месяц назад
​@@SMacCuUladh and it was his birthday and there was no way Ardie would've lost
@richardfleming8486
@richardfleming8486 Год назад
Hello & kind regards from sunny South Africa 🇿🇦 👍👌
@jimbob2252
@jimbob2252 Год назад
Competition is the best way of describing Ireland going up a gear at International level. URC, Champions Cup, Six Nations are all super competitive compared to whats on offer for New Zealand right now. Also SA are winning on both fronts because they are involved North at club level and South at international level. Its all knowledge
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 Год назад
True my friend, true.
@thomasVA9707
@thomasVA9707 Год назад
The way our springboks play changed alot and for the better since we playing clubrugby in the north for sure, we play exciting fast running rugby now and we are actually better, back at some point we played very boring rugby
@TheSmithsond
@TheSmithsond Год назад
Stopped listening as soon as you mention the Lori players for Ireland…seriously guy, get o er yourselves 😅 you’ve been robbing Pacific Islanders for decades…when the shoe fits etc etc
@MrRedsh1rt
@MrRedsh1rt Год назад
Anyone else blown away by the sheer arrogance of Boks fans on social media? They've been telling people for months they were going to beat Ireland by 20 points, now they're saying they wanted to play France all along and that they left 11 points on the field (ignoring that 1 missed penalty led to their try and that Ireland essentially left points on the field with those 6 lineouts they fluffed). But why would you care about the missed penalties if the plan was to play France all long anyway? I still think SA could win it, but I'll be cheering on their opponents because you guys are such bad losers (and winners).
@StephanDallaPria
@StephanDallaPria Год назад
*Me, literally scrolling through dozens of posts of Saffas congratulating the Irish on a great game*
@Irish-Gael-sg4lv
@Irish-Gael-sg4lv Год назад
​@@StephanDallaPriago onto the RWC videos. SA comments are pretty mind-blowing, zero class or respect and pure arrogance
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 Год назад
It's only a small amount like NZ fans. Most fans are okay.
@giddygiddy85
@giddygiddy85 Год назад
​@@Irish-Gael-sg4lvThe fact some are claiming they threw the game on purpose just shows how little respect they have for Ireland, let's be fair their own team aswell, they are basically calling themselves cheaters but it's better to be a cheater than a loser in their illogical minds
@gchelem
@gchelem Год назад
So they think France at home will be easy! Ok, can’t wait for that game. By the way if France happened to win, I should expect SA fans to post countless videos about the unfair referring 😂😂😂😂😂 they are so so so good surely if they lose it can’t be because their opponent was better.😂😂😂
@ianludick9770
@ianludick9770 Год назад
This show should be thankful for having Mills on it. Respectfully the only voice of reason. The problem with J & J is that their disdain for the Springboks are blinding their judgement and ultimately their credibility amongst rugby lovers.
@dude9318
@dude9318 Год назад
Its really not that bad People will generally always just root for their own team and be biased South African pundits are the same
@leeroylita637
@leeroylita637 Год назад
Gibson-Park was unrecognisable there 😂
@jackbennett5391
@jackbennett5391 Год назад
Jeff, your insight in the last 12 months has diminished in quality. You said it yourself, the reason why there are less tries in the tight games is because of the immense pressure.
@johnadams20132013
@johnadams20132013 Год назад
Looking back on the game could have went either way Ireland did well to win the game
@SmcdMcd-d2k
@SmcdMcd-d2k Год назад
Well both teams left points out there
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
No the game was always Irelands game. That was a pure tactical game from Ireland. Every time SA raised their game Ireland was always one step ahead.
@pazzct
@pazzct Год назад
The right team won that game boks in a better place with that loss. NZ need to "Richie Mcaw" up to see whose the GOAT between them and IRE looking forward to see that QF .... to the dark arts we go 😂😂😂
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 Год назад
​@@Art-is-craftAnd Ireland could have played better.. Ireland stopped SA from playing better.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
@@johnmc3862 SA does that very thing to teams but Ireland turned that type of game back onto SA and there was no real game response from SA.
@jdQuinnn
@jdQuinnn Год назад
It's the Irish system of play that makes these ex Kiwis look so good.That's what the AB have lost.It's down to the coaching.
@Dreyno
@Dreyno Год назад
Yeah, Aki and Lowe are better players now than when they arrived. Especially Lowe.
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth Год назад
​@@Dreynoall 3 are so is JGP.
@Dreyno
@Dreyno Год назад
@@RazorMouth I always had him above Luke McGrath. So much was invested in McGrath that they persisted with him to JGP’a detriment for the first few years.
@stabcitySB
@stabcitySB Год назад
The thing I love most about this World Cup from an Irish perspective is that it’s actually wide open between all pool winners and pool runner ups, this tournament has so many twists and turns in tow, it’s so exciting. Have to say too, no way are Ireland looking past this slick Scotland side.
@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641
Nobody believes Scotland will beat Ireland, not even Scotland nor Ireland...deep down you know, your team merely needs to get to the stadium. After beating the Boks, and with France trying to patch du Pont with putty, Ireland is now the hands-down favourites to win this rwc.
@lucyoconnor4562
@lucyoconnor4562 Год назад
"Think it, Don't jinx it" 😉🤣
@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641
@@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee You really hate that Ireland have become the favourites....not good for the superstitious, is it.
@portna12
@portna12 Год назад
​@@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641 it ain't over til it's over.
@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641
@@portna12 anything can happen, but can anyone honestly say, that deep down, they haven't already accepted Ireland as topping the pool, meaning they beat Scotland - with all the talk about them meeting NZ in the quarters, we really can be honest with ourselves.
@deeplearning7097
@deeplearning7097 Год назад
Not dismissing Scotland in any way, but this Ireland team vs the All Blacks will be a hell of a RWC meeting!
@Karma-qt4ji
@Karma-qt4ji Год назад
Feel free to dismiss Scotland.
@Cenotaur1
@Cenotaur1 Год назад
I'm quite nervous about the AB backline - they're very dangerous, no matter who says what.
@vjmightyw
@vjmightyw Год назад
Ireland go home at the quarter finals. New Zealand going to destroy Ireland.
@StephenG-kw1lp
@StephenG-kw1lp Год назад
No one in the Ireland squad is dismissing Scotland. That would be very stupid.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 Год назад
​@@Karma-qt4jiAbsolutely. Scotland have a horrid record against Ireland and this Ireland team is the best ever.
@hannesbornman1045
@hannesbornman1045 Год назад
Its quite interesting to me how different these pundits are with each other compared to other shows like the RugbyPod or Boksoffice.
@MauritzCTuit
@MauritzCTuit Год назад
Very defensive, and attacking, for sure. Shimi, Jean, Schalla...they have a blast doing these shows. Always have a laugh.
@undefinedvariable8085
@undefinedvariable8085 Год назад
And their banter is genuine and hilarious@@MauritzCTuit
@Bokgat
@Bokgat Год назад
Different style. The three have to fight for their jobs every week. The bitch is safe as per usual.
@phil.5030
@phil.5030 Год назад
The all blacks side also use alot of foreign players, should be called pacific barbarians
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
Half the Irish team is made up of SA and NZ players. Every team now looks like that.
@wellingtonian2009
@wellingtonian2009 Год назад
Have you ever been to NZ? Auckland (NZ's largest city) has the largest Pacific island population in the world. Many of the players of Pacific island heritage are second or third generation NZers or immigrated to NZ with their families at a young age and played all or most of their rugby in NZ. That's like saying all of England's black athletes and boxers are poached from Africa and all of NZ's white players are poached from Europe. Even the Samoan and Tongan sides are full of NZ born players and coaches. NZ's deputy Prime Minister is also of Tongan descent.
@DamienWhelan-v7p
@DamienWhelan-v7p Год назад
What you are forgetting is every Irish Match is a home Match - Thomond Park on Tour
@paulmurray6663
@paulmurray6663 Год назад
All 32😉
@nigelmcculloch3746
@nigelmcculloch3746 Год назад
Yeah nah, I think that the only reason those kiwi players in the Irish team are doing well is because the Irish pack is delivering a solid platform, so be careful Ireland the Ab,s know what needs to be done! ( so does the south Africans)
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Год назад
Knowing how to do some and then actually carrying that out effectively is not the same thing. NZ rugby is not as good as it was 8 years ago and has been in decline. I suspect Ireland will fold in the knock out stages but then again they surprised me with their tactics against SA.
@nigelmcculloch3746
@nigelmcculloch3746 Год назад
@@Art-is-craft yes, that is the beauty of this competition!
@really8930
@really8930 Год назад
Interesting WC. All the Southern Hemisphere sides have tasted defeat at the hands of European sides in their first or second games. Don’t think that has had ever happened before. Looking forward to see how it goes in the knockouts.
@CantThinkofaCoolOne
@CantThinkofaCoolOne Год назад
The World Cup brings in so much rugby talk. I'm loving coming to RU-vid every day now and the listening to the SA's, Kiwi, Irish, English pundits and players talking sport and competition.
@johnnyholtzhausen3493
@johnnyholtzhausen3493 Год назад
Typical Irish cheek to too fool themselves that they are stronger in the scrums, it's only cheating by push and pull,, bad reff , and was lucky to get the try , +- 100 mm from dead line 😢😢
@nicolaslegrand9414
@nicolaslegrand9414 Год назад
Is there a seat for a stinking cheese lover?
@anthonylennon8331
@anthonylennon8331 Год назад
As great as the game between us and South Africa was neither team are infallible. France can turn over South Africa even without DuPont and New Zealand could put 30 points on Ireland. Those two quarter finals are gonna be huge because the divide is so small. All 4 teams are at the pinnacle of the sport. The only guarantee now I think is that a World Cup winner will come from pool’s A or B.
@pauljansen6650
@pauljansen6650 Год назад
nice assessment
@johnilbehonest
@johnilbehonest Год назад
R u saying they can beat Ireland by 30 points.
@dominicm255
@dominicm255 Год назад
watching from NZ, I can't see AB's putting 30 pts on IRE. This irish team are slick. They are a finely oiled machine.
@happybru4757
@happybru4757 Год назад
One of the few more sensible comments...
@nowayout20042003
@nowayout20042003 Год назад
Maybe the southern hemisphere sides should do there own 6 nations style league/tournament have New Zealand, Australia, Tonga, Fiji, Samoa with either Argentina/ South Africa/ Japan. Maybe this format style might strengthen those teams more to rival the northern hemisphere side’s dominance over the southern sides. Might be better than rugby championship & get more viewers
@gerhardclaassen2102
@gerhardclaassen2102 Год назад
NZ - 3 world cups. South Africa 3 world cups. Australia - 2 world cups. England - 1 world cup. The North are not dominating the South. The south have dominanted for 8 of the last 9 world cups. Maybe this year is just another year like the one when England won it. 😂
@Bokgat
@Bokgat Год назад
Even England’s sole win was not anything dominant by the north. The south have always had only three teams all of which fired. The way I see it one of the three are not firing atm and the pools aren’t over yet. Don’t count your chickens son
@johnjames6620
@johnjames6620 11 месяцев назад
This has not aged well at all. Within 2 weeks things have changed significantly.
@Funkybassuk
@Funkybassuk Год назад
Bizarre to see New Zealand as the 4th best team. After watching them destroy my England team in ‘95, it’s hard to get my head around. The top 4 can all beat each other though. Let’s see what happens! Exciting world cup!
@zombievikinggaming4258
@zombievikinggaming4258 Год назад
Australia have two World Cups and look at them. The fall off can happen to anyone.
@SignificantWines
@SignificantWines Год назад
And suddenly its an England vs Wales final ;)...........would be seriusly funny if the 2 of those top 4 implode in the semi vs England and Wales... obviously doubt it but it s still possible...
@Mark-99999
@Mark-99999 Год назад
@@SignificantWinesif England wore on Irelands side of the pool they would be out already
@SignificantWines
@SignificantWines Год назад
@@Mark-99999 .... I know, I am essentially laughing at the idea that Wales and England will most likely be the other semi finalists and on the day could even win..... highly unlikely but possible.
@keithstritch1217
@keithstritch1217 Год назад
​@Mark-99999 well said..that is spot on
@draxiedru
@draxiedru Год назад
Classic. NZ pundits only now realising that their domestic competitions like Super Rugby Pacific might not be up to scratch.
@dannyrodger491
@dannyrodger491 Год назад
Mils, the legend! love from South Africa 🇿🇦
@tommartin7333
@tommartin7333 Год назад
As an avid Irish Rugby fan when I see the pressure come on the All Blacks they start looking very ordinary dropping ball wild passes and unnecessary infringement.The Irish seem to be able to adapt and stay cool headed with just about all the players being leaders and then there's the fans.
@rhino2992
@rhino2992 Год назад
I guess we will see in the QF wont we.
@JOATMOFA
@JOATMOFA Год назад
I must say it was evident to me too - the Irish stayed calm under pressure and that stood them in good stead against my Springbok team!
@pazzct
@pazzct Год назад
unnecessary infringement is only when you get caught IRE just got away with lots in the last while even brought back some dirty ruck tricks from 2009 against the boks but well played to them 😂😂
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth Год назад
Expect 50,000+ Irish fans at the stadium 👌 It's a home game for us, it will be epic.
@JGrowl-er9md
@JGrowl-er9md Год назад
A lot of waffle from former great players. At least Mils still has a realistic perspective of what's actually happening on and off the pitch. It's the same worldwide - old, big-name pundits talking hot air on TV.
@victoroakes2261
@victoroakes2261 Год назад
As a South African I am backing the All Blacks to beat Ireland & Boks to beat France ..... Mils you are pretty accurate with your analogy.... Boks have been there before & will certainly improve. Still think All Blacks are going to peak & be more than ready for the Ireland game. A great final between the All Blacks & the Boks awaits.... this will be too close to call with any confidence! Two Southern hemisphere teams in the final..... mouth watering!!!! If SA Boks don't make the final..... I will definitely will be supporting the All Blacks .......
@ArdoEdu
@ArdoEdu Год назад
John Kirwan always get it wrong, how can he be a pundit? pundit of what? on the other hand 100% J Wilson, position , and testing Manie and Faf under real pressure to validate the integration of Pollard. Look at the table right now, Ireland must win a taugh match against Scotland, South Africa must win too against Tonga but it is a weaker team than to Scotland, and they are playing first.
@Kenny-zn6dl
@Kenny-zn6dl Год назад
As and irishman, i agree 100% with wilson and kirwan, knockout rugby is a different animal, new Zealand are going to reach quarter's but as of yet don't know who they're going to be playing, Ireland?? Scotland?? South Africa?? Most likely Scotland or Ireland, South Africa missed some kicks last Saturday night but and nobody mentions this, we butchered 5 lineout throws which 95% of the time leads to tries, Farrell and o connell will sort that out very quickly, we still won the game and we will play alot better, will it be good enough?? Only time will tell.
@pazzct
@pazzct Год назад
You make a good point the answer to your question should open your eyes abit more.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 Год назад
​@@pazzct😂😂😂
@elguaje7.
@elguaje7. Год назад
Bald guy has a bee on his bonnet about Ireland 😂
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