Newbie Runner Tries Lactate Testing For The Pros! 

You’re not slow, Philly is fast. There’s a difference haha

This is so cool, what an opportunity for a non pro! Guess that roomie of yours does come in handy sometimes. Still waiting to see Phily filming on the bike, but this is a start. 😀Appreciate you sharing your journey with us.

Awesome video Daniel! When I had a lactate test done, it turned out that I was running way too slow! 😂 On threshold workouts I was 20-30sec/ km slower than my ACTUAL LT2. It kind of blew my mind how actually hard of an effort your threshold pace is

Great video - you looked in a better state at the end than I was expecting! It'll also be really interesting if you're able re-do in 6 months to see the changes. Sometimes that gradual improvement over time can be a bit disheartening without a PB or data to show the improvement. I discussed doing one of these tests with coach a little while back - I'm fairly confident that the paces she sets for the sessions is on the money so it's not critically important but I'm a data-junkie. I think it's time to get it done once I'm back up to full fitness.

The blend of HR and perceived effort on easy runs is really interesting. Especially as I’m about to start a base-building phase after an injury and I was looking at doing several weeks of running in HR zone 2 exclusively. Perhaps not now 🤔

Great to get an insight on how the professional marathon runners are doing it! So nice to follow along on your day there. Keep up the good work 🤜🤛

2:30 the smile, the grin.... at this point he obviously doesn't know how hard it gets 😂

Interesting watching this, I'm booked in for my first VO2 max and lactate test at Bath University on Monday. I ran most of my last marathon training to heart rate, but think I'd like more of an insight to lactate pacing

Interesting about the HR trending up. If I hit 155+ early in a run I can feel like death... but if it creeps up after 10-20mins of

Loved the video Daniel it good to see an average Runners experience well done 👍 👏👏👏

You should do a what I eat in a day! You could even compare it to what pro-runner Philly eats and how it differs???

Well done Daniel - you did a pretty good job explaining what the lactate threshold is! You're lucky they didn't have you do a VO2max test, that's the one that really hurts

If you are nerdy enough to want to know why this is a good idea there's an excellent YT video that covers this called *"The Physiology Of Endurance"* (two parts) on the Evokeendurance channel. I'm now FINALLY starting to understand the science behind zone training.

Can you tell me more about the whole process of testing. Did you have to go fasted for that test? How was the warm up for that?? The test it self was 4min blocks with 30s rest in between and taking the pace up every block by 0,5km/h??

This was a great insight and those thresholds make a lot more sense now!

This is really interesting and kudos to you for a great presentation of the subject!! With so much contradictory info out there on how to determine where your zone 2 HR actually is, I think I’ll take advantage of a lactate threshold test at a local university that offers it. Thanks for sharing 😅

Such a great opportunity! Would love to try this one day!

Your easy zone being anything under 165 is a pretty good LT. Mine is closer to 150 but it was 144 so it's moving in the right direction. But I'm 69 years old. I want to get this tested as soon as I find a place near me that can do it. I'm not a pro (obviously) but I have been training hard for 5 years and my Polar HR test said I as "elite" LOL

Do you think that rogue data point might have done you a disservice? It's just because it says your predicted 5k is 24:51 under the graph, but you smashed out that 23:14 parkrun not so long back 💪🏻

Interesting! Just wondering why the test was taken from behind your ear as oppose to finger prick test (which is what I've normally seen). Also, good points on the heart rate and long runs - completely agree with that and have always wondered if the approach was correct when your HR is very unlikely to drop unless you start walking.

Really interesting, thanks for the video 😊👍

Great video! 🎉

That’s cool! I would love to do that.

Very cool! Good to know as a non elite that the face thing is not used. *my claustrophobia thanks you

Now then young Daniel, What have i said about releasing videos during working hours???? 🤣 Good job it's lunch time . Honestly 🤫

Good info. Yeah HR training is hard especially when it is affected by external factors, like heat and humidity. By the way, have you ever done Garmin's guided lactate test? How does it compare to the lab?

Comment for your algo!

If the heartrate goes up during a long run when the speed is constant, wont the lactate do the same?

My favourite bit was when that guy drew a doughnut on the board

daniel looks a bit like fedor emiliananko

Dude, you're not slow! Your girlfriend might just offset your bias a bit 😂 185bpm at a 4:57min/km pace is quite fast imo. 💪 Thanks for showing how this works.

Philly won't be happy with you using tempo and threshold pace interchangeably. 10:15

No better result then being able to run easy runs a slight bit faster 😂

You're no longer an absolute novice

As a man who’s clearly grey in his 40s, I wonder…. Are you also going grey!? It seems so in several shots. Also, is this Phily’s fault? In my car I blame work, a newborn, and the genes my dad passed on after he was totally white by 45