NeXT Station | When Steve Jobs Left Apple - Part 1 

Tom Sramek, Jr. is the neXT company still around and the building got destroyed yet?

@@NgoViGiaPhuA NeXT was purchased by Apple.

Or black metal.

Was that a quote from GTA2?

The problem with people of the current times is that they're busy arguing whether that's a left foot or a right foot.

Yes indeed, I hint at this in the intro but we'll go into more detail in part 2 on Tims work

Yep, I just discovered this is Part 1 :))) cool

And id Software developed Doom on NeXT!

Oh yes!

There's source code out there of a Quake editor for NeXT OS.

lrochfort I got one off Flea Bay in 1999. There were tons of the slabs going for less than $100 USD. Compiled all kinds of UNIX apps for it. Send mail 8 something or another wound up being taken over as s spam relay and had to shut that down. :( The only limiting factor I ran into was a lack of support for threads. Although Mach supported threads, it was not POSIX compliant. The boxes still functioning today should really have a version of Linux or FreeBSD ported for them to run.

The Interface Builder got a complete rewrite around 2003. It's been changing ever since, and today it's a major pain in the ass to even do the simple "connect a slider to a textfield" demo that Steve used to do all the time.

@@markteague8889 Maybe you need to do something like "How to install Linux on a vintage 68K Mac"? (Both Macintoshes and NS had 68040 chips.)

@@StrangerHappened LOL … I wouldn’t have much of a clue about installing Linux. In theory, it would be possible. Although by today’s standards they are cripplingly slow machines, they did have some pretty kool hardware in them. Especially, if you have the NeXTDimension board for video. It would take a community effort to implement a Linux kernel and distribution capable of running on NeXT black hardware and fully exploiting the available peripheral devices. As an alternative, the “Previous” emulator of NeXT black hardware was a very interesting project. Last time I checked, It seemed to have been abandoned. It’s the way these things go. Someone is working on a graduate computer science degree and gets interested in emulation, then they finish school, get a real job, begin a family, and they no longer have time to play with such intellectual curiosities.

@@markteague8889 Should Linux be necessarily slow on 68040 though? Those CPUs were the beasts of their time, super fast. Linux itself is a kernel so by default it should not be that slow even if it has gotten fatter since the 1990s when its first version was released. Some barebone GUI shells from the KDE/X-Window family of projects should not run much slower than native NS GUI in its *basic* functions. But the idea of developing stuff to actually use anything else beyond the 68040 CPU and the very minimum video driver support seems to be hopeless since it would be a major effort for a purely hobbyist thing that the NS fan community is now.

Horzuhammer there are dozens of us 👍

The empty slot is to upgrade the DSP memory. You can take it from 24 to 96 kilobytes according to the owners guide.

srtgrayfrance Video memory?

They had it on display at the Science Museum in London back in 2014.

We should be thankful to Steve Jobs and NEXT otherwise the internet may have looked very differet

RunTime No porn?

Very kind thank you sir. These will always be my core format as I see it, with a few other style videos inbetween to keep regular content coming while I take my time researching these. I'm glad you enjoy them.

and he screwed Woz, who found during mid flight that his partner and cofounder at apple backstabbed and screwd him with the Atari breakout design profits; the world is better without jobs

To be fair, Woz never worked at NeXT. NeXT may have been a failure as a hardware company, but their operating system (NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP) was certainly a great success, since it lives on today with the name "macOS" and "iOS".

Woz never worked at NeXT and the tech from NeXT now powers both Mac OS X and the iPhone. Woz is overrated.

And Jobs was a fraud.

You think any of that would exist if it weren't for the Apple II and that propelling the brand into relevance? You know why Apple bombed in the 1990s? Because they pushed an overpriced platform that lacked backwards compatibility, color graphics and any kind of upgrade path. The Mac is overrated and Apple bombed when they listened to the terrible advice of abandoning their customers' current investments and needs. The Apple IIGS should have been the real future. Instead Jobs and the dolts after him saw dollar signs and some kind of phantom elitism they thought $3K monochrome machines would bring. Of course Mac OSX now runs on Intel because someone finally realized the way they were doing things was garbage.

Jobs was not a fraud... You're thinking of mr billy gates! The code theif (he actually can't code for shit like I was previously deceived into thinking as a kid, man can't believe I ever looked up to him [mr gates]) and eugenicist that masquerades his eugenics program as philanthropy! what a cruel sick joke! But regardless I still had the intuition or stroke of luck to pick instead of gates, Steve Jobs for my class project / class report! :D Truly was a genuine guy and sucks we had to lose him so early! A shame his envisioned usage case of the next step machine never came to fruition and cured cancer... or it was swept under the rug and cure discoverer killed so the cancer industry(it is an industry and they are not only avoiding cures but actively stamping them out when they catch wind of them and their discoverers) can maintain it's immense profits at the expense of human lives! Kind of puts the Jobs read Orwell quote into perspective doesn't it? Well your legacy will not be lost Steve, we will get that cure out there just the person that discovers it has to be wise and not think the industry is just going to step aside and let a cure get in the way of their profit margins ,and just open source the information spread far and wide instead! The only way cancer is going to be cured is by forcing the industry to acknowledge a cure, they will never acknowledge one themselves so they have to be forced to recognize it... If everyone knows it, and knows it's a truly successful way to eliminate it, then they just can't deny it and they must stop bogus failure chemo and administer the real cure! :D We got this Steve! :D

Is this on display at the Cave?

Hello, fellow Perthite.

Thank you Martin! :D

Hear, hear!!!

Indeed, Mr Berners Lee was working at Cern when he came up with something. This unit is on loan from the Physics Dept of Oxford Uni so who knows what it may have processed

That's kind thank you!

I dream of those gorgeous indigo workstations. One day my friend. One day

Looking forward to it, know you'll do a great job of it. Loving the video, very interesting subject.

Thank you David

HistoricNerd Boo! haha How's it going? ;)

Going good man, Still doing Army Stuff, But I'm heading home next month so streams will start up again.

HistoricNerd You again!! Hey!!

Same here. It was actually NeXT’s unobtainium quality that got me into Linux and the direction of my whole career. So I guess I owe NOT owning this system a lot :)

All of us wanted a more powerful OS in the early 90s. Linus was just too stubborn and dumb to realize that he couldn’t write his own. ;). It also helped that he had Andrew Tanenbaum as a mentor.

The OpenStep of your stride is giving away and spoilers are revealed, maybe it's time for a GnuStep. (It's late here, thats the best I could do)

A mans gotta Gnu, what a mans gotta Gnu.

Go buy a new Apple and you are buying the NeXT Step. OSX is what NeXT would have become. OSX is essentially a name change.

This has kindly been loaned to me by the Physics dept at Oxford University

my condolences Did you you use solaris or one of the other sun os's?

Because the Mac at that time was junk software wise. The OS was an archaic crippled turd, even Apple sunk millions desperately trying to get a replacement OS worth beans with Taligent and Copland and failed hard at both.

If you don't mind messaging me on twitter @theretromancave it's always good to have a 2nd opinion before release or even a talking head to improve the video thanks