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In this edition of PFT PM, Mike Florio discusses Travis Kelce's reaction to the Super Bowl ring typo before diving into a potential QB salary cap. Florio wonders who could be the first NFL QB to make $60 million per year before giving an update on the impending 18-game season. To close, Florio opens the mailbag to answer fan questions. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #nfl
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@BruceLeeRoy-m8f 3 месяца назад

How bout put a cap on tickets and stadium food n beverages?

@yaboisleez 3 месяца назад

A QB-specific salary cap is a shortsighted fix for the issue here. Just set a maximum salary cap percentage that can be spent on any single player, ie no singular player can account for more than 18 - 20% of the salary cap for a team at any time. It keeps the league from targeting specific player groups and could be sold as a net positive for the rest of the non-qbs in the Player's Union

@ryn8068 3 месяца назад

Your idea is an improvement on a salary cap for qbs and the best way to implement a salary cap. But there has to be a salary cap it's gotten insane. there is no football without special team players, lineman, there is no reason one player gets 800,000 while a bust like Dak gets $60 million.

@zachwallace8274 3 месяца назад

This is a really good idea.

@goldenbear8250 3 месяца назад

ALL Salary restrictions: Team Cap., Position Cap., % of Cap., whatever, should be enumerated within the CBA. Only this will remove any whining from anyone, owner or player (regardless of position.)

@milleribsenalbeefan 2 месяца назад

Florio has been calling for exactly this for years @@zachwallace8274

@timbryant2969 2 месяца назад

That would do it IMHO.

@DateMike22 3 месяца назад

Keep the full PFT episodes coming 👍🏼.

@CH-qt4hr 2 месяца назад

no one offered Lamar Jackson for "2 1st rd picks" because everyone knew the Ravens would match that offer

@ams4732 2 месяца назад

100%. This has always been known to anyone paying attention. Yet people(mostly media) want to pretend otherwise, and sometimes even make it about race 🙄…. GTFO with that divisive bullshit narrative for click bait

@madnessontheisland 3 месяца назад

The typo on the SB ring is just one more dig at Tyreek for taking the bag over more rings with KC. I love it.

@UnnameableGreviance 3 месяца назад

I bought Playmakers for my father when it came out. He had been waiting for the release of it. It was the last book he reqd before he passed away and enjoyed it greatly. I read it after I inherited it. It is a great book. Thank you.

@jflopezfernandez 3 месяца назад

Sorry for your loss

@joe2thesequel 3 месяца назад

So glad you are ok. Good news for anyone. You make the NFL better so stay healthy

@Spdrcerjt-f4m 3 месяца назад

You're the best Florio! I am glad that you will be sticking around for a long time.

@jnieting 3 месяца назад

You should do more court/law things in the office season. Your take is refreshing

@cag19549 3 месяца назад

Super Bowl ring goof is only important to you. One more molehill to make a mountain out of. No matter what you think, I'd bet Kelce doesn't give acrap.

@winebuyah 3 месяца назад

wow, after yer brilliant take on smoking, you somehow still had the brain power to come up with yer another absolutely brilliant take on KCs SB rings... keep up all the good work, smartie :•O yikes....

@jdaddyrizzo 3 месяца назад

Broncos still had to eat a lot of dead cap cutting Wilson

@geraldjeffcoat392 2 месяца назад

and they should blame themselves for at least half of the Wilson contract. By paying him early.

@regismonkton 3 месяца назад

Congratulations on your good health news! Are you going to do the picks podcast with Chris this year?

@jonathanmarks1794 3 месяца назад

Mike, you say that about the owners providing stadiums and infrastructure but how many teams are asking for / getting public money. So now the NFL has your tax dollars, your subscriptions, ticket price, consessions, merchandise.

@bmcdaniel93 3 месяца назад

Great news from the Doc Florio!!

@patriciablyler6484 3 месяца назад

Getting the word that you're not dying is always a plus!

@turosianarcher8771 3 месяца назад

Significantly better than the alternative, that's for sure.

@slyhuot 3 месяца назад

Nobody cares

@spyder1364 3 месяца назад

@@slyhuotobviously you do, since you took time to reply

@goldenbear8250 3 месяца назад

Imagine if someone had actually left a message to someone that they were!

@coreythompson4556 2 месяца назад

Amen 🙏🏽

@johnnyrohrer8870 3 месяца назад

QB cap is needed. Cannot be paying QB's 55MIL when they cant win a playoff game, or beat Mahomes .

@idiocide6609 3 месяца назад

how do you maintain any competitive bidding on QBs if there is a salary cap on the position. It will shortly just become every QB making whatever the cap is.

@TheSECRETeam 3 месяца назад

You should hire someone who provides timestamps on all your long videos. Pretty sure you can afford it. And I know we'll all be happier for it as well...

@angelsanchez-zb2rj 3 месяца назад

I think florio missed the fact that because mahomes took a team friendly deal they were able to keep more pieces to keep winning like look at caleb sure we don't know what he will be yet but he's already setting himself up for not needing a big contract.the big company's pay a shitload for sponsorship deals and you only have those types of deals if your winning

@jimaltergott9326 3 месяца назад

Damn Mike!! 27mph for a full hour?!!! Wow! Besides the stationary bike, do you cycle outdoors on the roads out there in W. Virginia?

@quiddity131 3 месяца назад

Brady’s teammates got more because Brady got less. That’s the way the salary cap works! Florio blatantly lying about this so often is ridiculous!

@scottrowlandrowland1098 2 месяца назад

Exactly, it's not a complicated formula. Mahomes and brady took less and have 7 out of the last 10 superbowls because they were able to build better teams around them.

@dylanehle6816 3 месяца назад

Hey, Mike - just really glad to hear you got good test results. I know a tiny bit about how it's tough to get behind the mic and entertain when you have a lot weighing on you. Thanks for being real and sharing!

@baldmafia 3 месяца назад

Florio: you have a flawed NPV calculation on winning. Brady sacrificed salary in short term for long term legacy and now has the real equity you miss: he has brand equity as the GOAT. He can get paid tens of millions just for being himself. Shaq appeal

@bradleymaravalli2851 3 месяца назад

I have PVCs too. 1 out of 10 Americans have PVC. A lot of times it is unnoticeable. That "heartburn" or "heart attack" feeling is typically due to caffeine. Making your heart work overtime. My doctors recommended cardio exercise in order to strengthen the heart. The fact that you are constantly doing cardio is likely why you are doing so great AND why you never really experienced PVCs until now. Just my two cents. Don't sue me. :-)

@HaydenKile 3 месяца назад

“Funny How” I’m dead Mike lmao🤣🤣🤣

@dogbadger 3 месяца назад

What Pinball machine (or machines) do you own Mike? I remember seeing one in the background of your living room setup a few years ago, but could make out which one it was.

@alexgonzaleztx 3 месяца назад

Mike, hear me out. You and Simms on a podcast, he smokes his weed, you drink or smoke a cigar and just talk ball. F-bombs encouraged! "Blunts and Blitzes" w/ Simms & Florio. Make it happen!

@lukeluna3732 3 месяца назад

Off brand, won't happen.

@CapeCodPhilip 3 месяца назад

You might be on to something: PFT on NBC is regimented and corporate - a chill conversation from the barn would be a nice change...

@lukeluna3732 3 месяца назад

@@CapeCodPhilip a conversation from the barn, has better ring to it for a NBC product from 2 NBC employees, then blunts and blitzes lol

@mwejrowski 3 месяца назад

Keep the full PFT episodes coming! 👍

@josephmesser5180 3 месяца назад

I spent 15 years in Southern West Virginia. A lot of Vikings fans in that part of the state. Still a lot of love for Randy Moss

@khadiewhyte6024 3 месяца назад

It’s great to hear you’re healthy.

@wildbillwilmoth98 3 месяца назад

Didn't the shield say on PMS that he doesn't want pre-season football and potentially more playoff teams.

@Tony525_ 3 месяца назад

Contracts should be based on performance...

@timothythompson2369 3 месяца назад

Weird take. Most teams use up their entire cap. Florio acts like the owners pocket the cash. They actually share the revenue and dole out per the CBA.

@CH-qt4hr 2 месяца назад

very few teams use up their whole cap

@lnss8775 3 месяца назад

Sounds like the owners already want a new CBA. That's the only way an 18 game season n changes to the salary cap will happen. Players seem to have the leverage to get at least 50% of the revenue share

@nobiz8414 3 месяца назад

Jeeze Florio your medical provider doesn't have an online portal you can enter to see your test results? This some real Mayberry RFD type shi 😂😂😂😂😂

@Mr_Mcfeely 3 месяца назад

He's probably just too old to figure it out 😂😂

@cag19549 3 месяца назад

Yeah, I wondered about that. I get all my test results through my patient portal.

@cag19549 3 месяца назад

@Mr_Mcfeely I'm 69 years old, and I get mine through my patient portal. The only time I ever got a phone call was when it was something bad, and I needed to know my options. It's weird that he talks so much about his health issues to people he doesn't know. A little neurotic.

@kingjosephrbidenjriii5820 3 месяца назад

Who still goes to doctors after covid? Sheesh

@spyder1364 3 месяца назад

@@kingjosephrbidenjriii5820people with chrons disease, I should know, I have it. It ain't pretty, and pretty painful

@jonosay854 3 месяца назад

Move ALL THE BYE WEEKS to weeks 8-10, or 9-10. Makes ZERO sense for 2 teams to have a BYE Week 6, and 2 have a BYE Week 12

@helmetculture 3 месяца назад

LOL

@robertschoelerman7496 3 месяца назад

18games u spread the 2 bye weeks out

@mykofreder1682 3 месяца назад

As far as exercise goes in your 60s or 70s listen to your body when you exercise. At 35 I could run a 5-minute mile, in my 60s maybe a single 8-minute or higher, I would never push myself to the ragged edge of that midsummer race doing a 5-minute mile in a 5k. You are diminished at those ages if you have a measuring stick to compare and the ragged edge is probably not wise.

@GoKU-xx2vg 3 месяца назад

Wow. I couldn't do a 5min mile in my 20s lol.

@Mediocre_Bass_Player 3 месяца назад

There is a great episode of Modern Family where Phil gets a phone message from his doctor and this is his reaction...it's comedy gold

@lukeluna3732 3 месяца назад

Ive been arguing caps on positions for years now. Then the stars become capped out then as the cap raises other members of the team start getting the benefits from new money.

@lukeluna3732 3 месяца назад

Then caps on position can raise together over time.

@karlmckinnell2635 3 месяца назад

🤔 position salary cap as a percentage of team salary cap. Say a qb gets 20% for 5 years meaning every time the salary cap goes up so does the qbs check but it is always the same percentage.

@EdByrns 3 месяца назад

I feel NFL should have pay based on play time as starter or backup cause I feel it ain't fair if a backups has to do a starters job for way less n if they do they should get that starters pay not backup pay every game should pay half the salary n the other half is ur base pay for all the other stuff it would work just a lil complicated at first then all players get paid the same at ur position n rank

@alphonsis6183 2 месяца назад

The Bills will take care of Josh, maybe before this season. I'm confident that Josh will be reasonable with help making the cap dynamics as flexible as possible.

@NintendoSphere 3 месяца назад

Isn't tom essentially getting this info confirmed out there a good thing though? We know what's coming down the line and what the badge wants. This is good to know.

@kents1911 3 месяца назад

Everyone is dying he just isn't dying faster than normal 😂

@OhioVworld 3 месяца назад

18 games, fine. Expand rosters to 60, and make mandatory snap counts across rosters, etc, so players are playing less snaps, done. Also, with 18 games, it makes sense to have 2 bye weeks.

@mymodely7755 3 месяца назад

I would not give up two first round draft picks for Lamar. I don’t even think he’s a two-time MVP.

@pierrekid 3 месяца назад

Mike why are the people that pay the players and the owners never discussed?? US! And we have no vote or say in anything. Pay them means higher ticket prices etc. so annoying

@ravenken 3 месяца назад

You know Mike, I NEVER hear you justify why all the money should go to the QB and screw the rest of the players. I know you know there is a salary cap. I also know you know the law of subtraction. So, please spend some time justifying why everyone else should get less because the teams have to overpay the QBs. I would really love to hear your explanation. Again, all the other players with many years of sacrifice and effort to be where they are, are going to be limited all b/c someone is the 'face' of a franchise. That is wrong in my book and I would like to hear why I'm wrong.

@G00N3R7883 3 месяца назад

I have no specific love for Tom Brady (I'm a Broncos fan) and I've never paid much attention to the day to day business of the Patriots. But if Brady did prioritise winning over money, that is 100% a good thing. I want my team to win the superbowl. And he'll still have earned lots of money anyway. The lowest paid player in the NFL will earn more money in 1 year than I'll see in my entire life.

@johnwager6704 3 месяца назад

The ring will be highly valued for collectors down the road.

@ScottVansel-qg8ik 3 месяца назад

Yes..Just like error sports cards are...some are very valuable!

@anthonygambitta6220 2 месяца назад

They should have a QB salary cap, this is spiraling out of control.

@EdByrns 3 месяца назад

Ok Florio can I sue you for giving me a personality disorder?? lmk k ty 😂

@davensuites 3 месяца назад

Its not 32 different businesses its like 1 business and 32 franchises.

@ace448 2 месяца назад

If I were the players, if you expand the season you es t a guarantee of some money if your career ends early due to injury. Something like an annuity of 50% of the contract over a certain time. That’s the only thing I would take

@zachmcquillan1922 3 месяца назад

Quality Bad Santa reference (RIP Bernie Mac)

@FelixvonSnidonkloffer-vg8fm 2 месяца назад

Mike, when asked about which team(s) are poised to this season to get hot, the teams you mentioned are all NFC teams until the end when you haphazardly mentioned the Chiefs. What gives?

@chrispage8716 2 месяца назад

They need to restructure quarterback contracts by skills you can't have the 15th best quarterback make the most just because he was the last quarterback signed it's absurd.. now every other quarterback that is just as good or worse is it going to get paid more outrageous

@brianmurray7980 3 месяца назад

Id love to see a 24 week season with 3 bye weeks for a toral of 21 regular season games. The 3 bye weeks is the only way to sell it to the union, and it should be able to guarantee each team gets a bye once every 7 weeks.

@victorstillwell9893 2 месяца назад

I would keep the incorrect ring. It's part of the story now, makes it different.

@pierrekid 3 месяца назад

Mike a Vikings fan since 1969. I think we were going to draft Pennix. Too much talking about everyone else. Just a hunch. I was bummed Atlanta got him. Please discuss this.

@mattchew6426 3 месяца назад

Didn't KC pay Mahomes half a billion dollars for a 10 year contract? Since then, $50 million per year for a QB has become the standard offer for the position...

@NathanRhwmf 3 месяца назад

why? if he’s the best why are they payed more

@aaronclay4665 3 месяца назад

Yes and it was a dumb contract, it wad heavily home town for cheifs, but he is also guaranteed all his money( it rolls every 2 years, first 2 years guaranteed then next year , year 2 and 3 guaranteed then next 3 and 4 ect ect) It's why when ppl gay mad at deshaun watson guaranteed money I laughed, the only reason mahilmes is like that is because his owner DOES NOT have 500 million in cash to give the. Nflpa( guaranteed money is payed to the nflpa UP FRONT and kept in escrow till that year they then give it to the player at the start of the new league year) Again, a lot of ppl know nothing on these subjects but act like they know what's good and what's bad.

@chrisculhane3777 3 месяца назад

Qb's salaries are getting ridiculous this next man up breaks the bank is ridiculous. Teams are held hostage

@timbryant2969 2 месяца назад

I've never really understood how labor getting together and saying, "no one will work for you for less than this amount" ISN'T collusion, but management getting together and saying, "we'll only pay this much" IS collusion. If these guys (the players) were having to get 2nd jobs so their families could eat, I could understand all the shade you're throwing at the owners, but this is quite obviously not the case. We've arrived at a point where ONE personnel decision can sink a franchise, and if some action isn't taken the league will be in real trouble. I'm not saying a QB cap is that answer, but an answer needs to be found and the owners have every right to discuss it.

@dantebrante3784 3 месяца назад

Yall forget Brady took those deals because without a top 10 defense and special teams, he’d never have made a single bowl. 💀 he NEEDED the studs around him

@ShonTV15 3 месяца назад

The difference is we assume that 8 year old is gonna grow up to work a regular job where that mindset wouldn’t be healthy. If you’re getting paid millions to play a game then yeah winning at all costs is the objective, even if that means taking a few less million to do so.

@AEFisch 3 месяца назад

18 games, up 2. Don't you need a larger roster? Just injury math, more games, more opportunities to get injured and unable to play. No one can change that on either side.

@cap4life912 3 месяца назад

I LOVE THIS GUY BRO🤙🏼❤️🐬🫡

@jordanbrauer7706 3 месяца назад

I agree they should have a qb salary cap it should be set at 300 million after that the rest carry over to the regular cap

@CapeCodPhilip 3 месяца назад

Mike is the Mr. Rogers of Sports: speaks intimately as if he's talking to one person (you), not 20,000...

@grizzlybear9419 3 месяца назад

No player is worth 60 million a year. No player should make more than 10 million a year period. This is totally ridiculous. There playing a game. If they don't like it don't play.

@QuarterbackTCG 3 месяца назад

Qbs don't have a right to feel any type of way with this, their slice of the pie has nearly doubled since 2007. Top rbs career earnings are closer to one year of these qb salaries.

@LibertyOrDeath-ms5rf 3 месяца назад

Maybe it was a diss against Tyreek Hill and Miami Dolphins...?

@bryantreese6060 3 месяца назад

Thats awesome for you so glad results are good news stay healthy stay safe your life is always more important then 🏈

@EdByrns 3 месяца назад

Every time I wake up pft is on my tablet then I see u n Simms n he is red eyed n that makes me smoke n now I'm a huge human blunt that's drunk n confused because u do that to my brain u better help me bro lol love the pod kutgw

@arkadious9320 2 месяца назад

I can see QB salary cap be up to 1/6 of the teams salary cap

@johnliu3146 2 месяца назад

Winning got Tom Brady a $350 million contract! Did he really take less money?

@JohnSmith-ls3um 3 месяца назад

My answer to Belichick if I was negotiating with him and he asked if I thought I was better than Brady: no, I don’t-but then again, I don’t have a super model wife who makes double what I make.

@steelermike5219 3 месяца назад

It shouldn’t be just QBs At some point these contracts do have to stop going up if not in a few years QBs and others will be getting like 3 years 2 billion. It’s already ridiculous how much some of these guys make

@j.anthonybattaglini6650 3 месяца назад

I'm part of Bills mafia and I really don't mind you calling out my organization. You called out my coach and GM back when that Matt Ariza thing happened. That punk may have not done what was alleged but he didn't just have HS girls at a party and is completely innocent. A decent man would've kicked those girls out of the party and made sure no one messed with them, and the response by my organization made me sick. McDermott always coaches to not lose, when you need to coach to win. He has no balls on the field and when it came to doing what's right, he showed he has no balls. Keep calling it like you see it, your the only one that seems to do that

@justinrakestraw4142 3 месяца назад

Notice Florio never brought up Mahomes??? He should be paid 70-80 million a year but takes a pay cut!

@Kim-cv2qv 3 месяца назад

The players tried to have All Hats game during an strike year in the mid 80s and the league went to Court and squashed it

@meepk633 3 месяца назад

I would take some measure of petty solace if I were in the Miami organization. It's not a particularly warm comfort, but it'll do.

@Dean_H. 3 месяца назад

Florio is the Goat 🐐

@johnbienaszii7729 3 месяца назад

Get a better camera, move your mic, Mike.

@rushman2k3 2 месяца назад

4:43 as a chiefs fan I literally dont care at all about it and not even remotely embarrassed, so I can totally get Kelce not caring either

@travisstoneking4049 2 месяца назад

Thank you Cleveland for making ownership want a cap. They should cap screwing fans on tickets. Then again what do I know. 😂

@buddysteele7624 3 месяца назад

I swear Florio treats the tiniest routine medical matters like he’s some gladiator on the road to Damascus. How many weeks did we have to hear him make excuses cuz he had a colonoscopy?? (I’ve had one and it was nothing) this guy needs to go visit some 3rd world countries and learn what suffering and hardship and grit really are

@winebuyah 3 месяца назад

RU-vid keeps trying to not post my comments towards you but that won't stop me :•)

@alexvankeulen7171 3 месяца назад

When the kid's 8 years old and is always winning, you got yourself a goddamn prodigy, idk what you're on about florio

@chrisculhane3777 3 месяца назад

I would cap qbs pay at 15% of cap wich goes up every year. They did it with rookie scale contracts

@chrispage8716 2 месяца назад

They will be the most valuable super bowl rings

@lyndelf 3 месяца назад

If they want to enjoy the benefits of the "equity" then they should be willing to take on part of the debt!! Everyone is making too much money but only a few are holding the responsibility of keeping it all going!

@archibaldmcglasson7111 3 месяца назад

2:05 dik broke

@2jjordan124 3 месяца назад

As much as I hope Anthony Richardson is the answer in Indy…I still say the Colts should’ve tried to go after Lamar

@OlBoo 3 месяца назад

The problem with your story is that they have to pay a minimum percentage out to the players from the salary cap. So this is all just a bunch of malarkey, because if they don’t pay the quarterbacks, they have to pay someone else. Maybe they have more confidence paying the other positions, but the NFL and NBA have almost 50% or more of the Divine gross revenue. Going to be paid to the players. So cut it out Mike.

@carrite 2 месяца назад

Josh Allen "underpaid" at $45M year? You're nuts. No wonder the NFL needs a QB salary cap, with you talking heads ginning up the fan idiots...

@spyder1364 3 месяца назад

I was diagnosed with chrons disease, back in the mid 80s. I know what you're goin though. Anyday above the dirt, is a good dau

@nickhewes6860 3 месяца назад

Taking less money isn't cheating anyone. None of those Pats players had to accept lowball offers from Kraft. They could have said no and walked. Every single NFL player ever could have agreed to have been paid less, they CHOSE not to. Talent likes money; you have more to spend and it's more likely to draw talent from the FA pool. Simple math, not cheating. There is no functional difference between 50 and 60 million a year; the only difference is greed. Accept less, build a superteam. A, B, C, 1, 2, 3.

@sirripsalot420 3 месяца назад

That Lamar situation is actually insane when you think about it. Blatant collusion.

@K-rodge 3 месяца назад

That’s how he won 7 championships… stop it… now he is legend and will make more in a broadcasting career…

@The_Mad_King 3 месяца назад

Stop paying garbage quarterbacks who have done NOTHING in the post season and let em walk. There is zero reason Lawrence should make more than Mahomes… it’s proven… owners need to let those quarterbacks walk. They won’t get that big bag they don’t deserve and you can just draft another… how is Tua getting a big bag when he has only been healthy for a single full season since he was in high school… you won’t get what you are paying for