This interview made me cry. My daughter was an admirer of Nick Cave and introduced me to his music. She also saw him perform in Boston, MA. She really loved his music. She passed “too soon”. She was my only child and the love of my life/. It’s been 2 years and I am still trying to find my way to the other side of grief. Thank you for this interview. In a way you brought her back to me for a moment for she would have love this exchange ❤️🎶☮️
Stephen Colbert lost his father and two brothers in a plane crash in 1974. He knows what Nick Cave is talking about. The fact he didn't talk about his own tragedy shows what a great interviewer he is.
It's like surviving a cave in when everyone else didn't. There are a bunch of emotions involved that need time to be sorted out so one can recognize them.
And when you have really arrived in a place of grace, you can allow someone else to have the floor, we are not talking about fishing stories here and comparing notes. The whole and full life experience is for those who have loved deeply and lost
It’s some pretty heady, heavy stuff, he shares. TBH, I did not know if him and his work…maybe heard his name somewhere. Now I simply must find out more and look forward to discovering what he wants to offer.☮️💜
“You’ve been loving him a long time Down all the years, down all the days And you’ve cried for all his troubles Smiled at his funny little ways” If you know, you know.
This met/surpassed the best of golden era daytime talk. 'Great to see it come back. I'd seen an early uncompromising Cave via RU-vid in disparaging, disrespectful treatment of a college fan-interviewer, to eventually grow into offering a free for the masses master course in the creative process. Phenomenal transcendence ~
Lost my wife after 36 years together, unexpected cardiac arrest 2021. I still struggle with my loss. I cried my way through Nicks account of his own grief. Beautiful.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Don't give yourself a deadline for getting over it - I've had that sort of thing put over my head in the past (both implicit AND explicitly, some people are wild in their discomfort at another's pain!) It's ridiculous and reductive. The pain of the loss is a part of and a tribute to the love/bond you had, and it and you deserve all the time and space you need to feel it. As Stephen said, in some ways, it's a privilege/badge of honour, recognition for both them, and your journey together. Good luck on the new chapter of your journey, I hope you have lots of love and joy in your life, and can allow yourself that without guilt for if/when/how you grieve. Our pains are similar but our roads are different, we all get there in our own way and time. (Sorry for my unsolicited monologue, I guess Nick really got me in my feels and your comment resonated 😊)
People say, 'I'm sorry for your loss', or 'I'm praying for your loss', but the hole left by the unexpected passing of someone so deep in your soul can't be filled by words of sympathetic people. Ears are better, and the touch of a friend's hand. You have the right to grieve as long as it takes; and no one has the right to expect more. Be well, friend.
@@sealyoness I think it’s nice when people say that. There is nothing better they can say At least they made an effort. When I had a big loss I saw a couple of people run away so they don’t have to say anything. What is the perfect thing to say?
Thanks to the Late Show for letting the interview play out, and give time for Nick and Steven to talk about these sensitive topics. It really deserved the space to breathe.
As much as I love that they posted the entire body of this interview online, I would have sincerely loved that the broadcast audience had seen the entirety of this thought-provoking interview. A stunningly brilliant interview. Thank you Stephen & Nick.
Agreed. Colbert allows his guests to actually speak w/o trying to be a clown, or dominate the conversation like Fallon (everything is just schlock and self-centered material) Colbert stradles edutainment where you check your ego, share an intellectual viewpoint and still manage to have some fun. Colbert guests exemplifies the quality of his show
Amazing! An American talk-show host that actually listens to a guest and let them talk without interrupting them with nonsense questions and comments. Keep it up, Mr. Colbert!
They (Stephen, Conan, Seth, both Jimmy’s, one more than the other) all have gem interviews. Each show has a style that the producers build, so there’s a flavor that is consistently put forward, but if you look you can come to find those gems.
Great interview, my lovely husband died suddenly in May 2023, he was a massive Nick Cave fan. One of the first presents I bought him was a Nick Cave album. Into My Arms was played at his funeral, it was our song. Hopefully, one day I will be able to listen to it without crying. I will try and follow your advice Nick, you are a lovely man x
As an Australian family who loves music, we've held a very deep love for Nick for many years. During a trip to LA roughly 13 years ago, we ran into Nick, his beautiful, talented wife Susie and their young son enjoying a quiet Sunday morning breakfast at the same pancake cafe we were at in the Farmers Market. I managed to restrain my inner fan-girl because the image of this family enjoying a lovely breakfast together was so personal and precious. After losing our son 11 years ago, Nick's own thoughts on grief definitely resonate with me. He is a remarkable man ❤
As someone who is familiar with how much restraint it requires to take a step back and not be a self-indulgent fan, your choice to not interrupt their family moment warmed my heart. I'm so very proud to share the planet with someone of your thoughtfulness, and I'm very sorry for your loss.
I remember hearing of him when I was in my early 20s and just moved back to Niagara from Hamilton Ont. so this must have been around the year 1993 when I hear him first on radio! He was different and I like different after hearing the same thing all the time on the radio he was refreshing change darker lyrics on most but it was where I was at as well those years were dark for alot of people in the world. I loved the work he did with PJ Harvey they sing well together great harmonizing and both so different!!!
Anyone who starts an epic song with “I don’t believe in an interventionist god…” is awesome in my book. Not from a religious point of view, just so thoughtful and part of one of the most beautiful songs ever ❤❤❤
@@GiselleYoung-l4l Just finished watching this incredible interview and am tearing up - He does this to me almost every time. Met him on the street once in Italy. He could not have been more generous, open, and present. He didn't need to be, but he was.
I never thought I'd see Nick Cave do a late night interview like this. Greatly appreciate Colbert letting this be the deep conversation that it shoud be.
Definitely right up there with his first interview with Joe Biden after Beau died of cancer. That interview really put Colbert's Late Show on a secure footing, and also demonstrated the deep humanity and empathy of both men.
I’m still shocked that I just saw Nick Cave on a late night TV show in America! And that the host knew who he was! And his young sons knew! What a gift. Made my morning bright. Grief was a physically dangerous journey for me a few years ago. Today, I am in joy. 🖤
I was at his first concert back after Arthur died. That was an amazing night. I think the encore went for about an hour, Nick clearly didn't want to leave the stage. There was such a great connection between him and the crowd. I'm so glad I got to be part of that.
Never have I seen a talk show interview in which the audience is silent and captivated for 21 whole minutes, before breaking into applause. Not a sound at all prior. That is the power of these two wonderful men.
24 hours after the collision death of the love of my lifetime, I was overcome with wave after wave of paralyzing grief. I hiked a hill and saw a bird fly across the most incredible orange sunset. Suddenly I was swept over by waves of Joy! The realization that life continued, that I could someday recover and heal. My Aha moment!! My undeserved gift. + I share this through tears 40 years later. Grief is a Lifetime... but we can cope and carry-on.
I am writing my first ever you tube comment ever. This is a wonderful interview; what a generous man Nick Cave is. This is an object lesson in how to treat a guest; be knowledgeable of the work and give them space.
💔 The story of the girl squeezing his hand, brought tears to my eyes and my soul. I was 18 when my brother died at age 23. 40 years later, i still miss him deeply. I had a close friend who, after hugging me deeply, she just sat with me well over an hour, and it was exactly what I needed. ❤ It was the people who honestly said "This doesn't make sense." who truly gave me support. I realize everyone had good intentions, and felt powerless to say much of anything. Grief is not given enough acceptance in our society.
Grief is a rough sell, and so personal that a one-size-fits-all is insulting because it lacks intimate attuning. The impulse to be comforting is okay, but it can also reinforce that sense of isolation if it's not tailored correctly. Sitting quietly is such a good go-to.
Tears running down my cheek watching this interview. Nick is a rare talent and exemplary human being. Much respect to Steven Colbert for allowing the rest of the world to see.
This is what an interview should be. It is now the standard by which all other interviews should be judged. It was in-depth, intelligent, emotionally honest, there was an actual exchange of views, they were unafraid to tackle the big topics head on. What a refreshing change from “Tell me about your new movie.”
Take note of how considered Nick's word choice is, how he allows pauses, and how Stephen gives him the space to say exactly what he needs to say. Beautiful interview.
When I was young, I embraced Nick’s anger and cynicism, as it was expressed through his music, because it reflected my own. So many performers fall into the trap of feeling that they have to maintain a persona developed in their 20’s to keep a fan base in their 50’s and beyond. They’ll go out on the Indian casino/state fair circuit doing the same old thing, with both the performer and audience desperately trying to hold on to a moment in time that they’ll never get back. It’s lovely to hear Nick, both as an artist and a person, embrace growth and change, even devastating change, as a fundamental aspect of humanity and to see that he’s willing to put new artistic works out into the public, knowing that they might be rejected by those who once held him in esteem, but also knowing that they might open other’s eyes to a new idea. Thank you for a great interview.
@@paulhannan477Hello dear, thanks for your support and love for Nick cave, we appreciate you. My name is Suzi greenrich and I work with Nick cave, I happen to be his online manager. He asked me to get in touch with you. As he came across your profile in his notification box, he pick at random to know his fans and personally help out, he doesn't have the chance to chat with you directly that's why you will go through me to get to him. Hope that's clear It will be nice to hear back from you as you get the message so I trust you take this seriously. Thanks for your time...
I was just gonna say pretty much the same thing, so well put! I’ve noticed that too over time but never had the explanation for it like you just said…thanks!
no one and i mean NO ONE gives a show like Nick Cave. I saw him at a concert a few years ago and i barley knew any of his songs and I came out totally enchanted.
Last fall, I drove to Cleveland for 6 hours on a long lonely night to see him 'solo' in concert. Some years before I heard Nick with the Bad Seeds in Toronto. My "enchantment" began when I first saw them as part of Wim Wenders' 'Wings of Desire' in 1987.
Just happened on this interview - deeply moving, meaningful, inspiring. As someone whose life has suffered massive grief and loss in the past 3 years especially, that bit about hopefulness at the end touched me in a profound way that I cannot quite articulate. Thank you.
It's so inspiring to see Cave, a self-proclaimed introvert, speak so eloquently on topics such as grief and hope. Much love to Mr. Cave, his family, and his team
He was nervous but was courageous enough to power through it and I'm so glad he did because it was beautiful and just another reason among reasons I adore Stephen Colbert
This is so wonderful. I couldn't stop crying. Thank you Stephen Colbert for having Nick as a guest and asking great questions. Two gentlemen in our world bringing grace and compassion
Nick's Red Hand Letters are so wonderful to read. He is such a compassionate person trying hard to understand our place in the world. I love his music but more, the man himself.
This is one of the best interviews that late-night has produced, Nick and Steven both interacted amazingly. I really felt this one. Both Nick and Steve were so present, and it left me hanging on their every word.
This is by far the deepest and most meaningful conversation I’ve ever heard in a talk show. Props to Stephen for actually listening and giving us this gift.
As an Australian I've been following Nick Cave for years. He is such a deep thinker and it's expressed through his music. On grief, it's true, sometimes actions speak louder than words.
@ottomellar6774 Dude. The English have given more to the world than probably any other people in history, with many of the greatest minds. Plus, we are your mother. Anyway, I'm only bantering with you. You got touchy very quickly so I won't even bring up the scandalous ball tampering. My God. I watched 9/11 live and I thought it was the worst thing I'd ever see. Little did I know. Little did I know. Watching your boys cry did make up for it a big though. You Aussies, aye. With your big red heads.
Thanks. We are here to help each other. Thank you to all who made this interview happen " Thank you to Stephen & Nick. Thank you to everyone who posted this. Sending Love, light, peace to everyone. Please know you are loved, we are all loved and loving .🇺🇸🦋🤍☮️💫
My life partner died very unexpectedly in 2018. The circumstances were so difficult and unbelievable and his family in some ways seemed to blame me. I have been very alone in my grief. NIck Cave's Red Hand Files offered me a glimpse of what it means to actually be able to talk about a loss of that magnitude. Talking about it helps you understand it and like Nick says, prevent it from turning against you inside. The way he has recorded and offered his journey of loss and grief through his music, his films, the book, is like a caring hand to each of us who is seeking solace. As Nick talks about so beautifully, there is another view on the other side of the grief, but we cannot hurry it and it exists because the loss has refashioned us into a new way of being. NIck Cave has been an important part of my healing. I am forever grateful for his honest sharing.
Hello dear, thanks for your support and love for Nick cave, we appreciate you. My name is Suzi greenrich and I work with Nick cave, I happen to be his online manager. He asked me to get in touch with you. As he came across your profile in his notification box, he pick at random to know his fans and personally help out, he doesn't have the chance to chat with you directly that's why you will go through me to get to him. Hope that's clear It will be nice to hear back from you as you get the message so I trust you take this seriously. Thanks for your time...
It is beautiful to see how deeply moving this interview has been to so many folks navigating through their own feelings of loss. I read posts like yours @sallyduros, and I feel honored to feel deeply affected by them. Your loss is shared, even by those of us who have not crossed paths with you before.
@@indie_music_travels Thank you, Ed. As NIck says, we all will have loss. I want folks to know that Nick Cave's going public with his struggles has brought solace to thousands over the last many years before Colbert, and before all the other publicity. When Nick Cave shared his truth through his natural channels, we responded. His appearance on Colbert is a co-creation of Nick Cave and his audience and people like you all moved to assist each other.
He's been around since the early 80s, but has been pretty 'underground' or 'alternative' the whole time. His baritone voice and verbose lyrical styling is not typically considered to be particularly commercial, but then pop music is pretty lightweight. He's also written movie scripts, btw.
Enjoy the deep dive to come! Also if you dig Nick Cave, check out the work of the late Rowland S Howard. He was in the Boys Next Door/The Birthday Party with Nick Cave before moving onto his own projects.
While I love Johnny Cash, the truth is, Nick Cave is just another level of a musician. And if you like Cash, then Cave will just blow your mind. Just another level. One of the great great great songwriters of all time. 4 decades of amazing albuns, one after another.
Thank you for not cutting up that conversation. It was beautiful. Stephen Colbert's interviews about grief have been so powerful they may be his greatest legacy. Nick Cave was so clear and articulate - he gave us a gift. I am sure I will revisit this interview again.
No better place than the Late Show with the ever understanding and empathic Mr. Colbert to bring this unique Artist to the conscious of a wider audience.
This was magnificent. What a blessing to have spent most of my life reveling in his work and works. Thank you Nick, and thank *you* Stephen for taking the time for such a powerful interview.
What a beautiful man. While many friends have been his fans since the 80s, I’ve more recently come to see that Nick Cave’s work is less about commanding dark forces and more about vanquishing them. I’ve been stuck in a fallow life, but hearing that hope is adversarial touched me deeply. I have desperately needed to hear that hope is the solvent that can extract my life from this tar baby of ennui. Thank you for bringing this conversation to your viewers and reminding me to seek out the Red Hand Files for more of Nick’s wisdom. Blessings.
Stephen is such a great interviewer! Managed the silence, kept quiet and attentive. Amazing! Nick is a generous soul and his words so profound. Thank you both.
I played Into My Arms at my brother in law’s Memorial Service. He was an avowed atheist and it was the most beautiful tribute to his family I could find. Thank you for speaking to so many families and people in grief.
My husband died suddenly when our kids were tiny, and even though it was the worst period of my life so far, I also felt cocooned in love. I relate to what Nick is saying--I've known people who seem to feel that it's a betrayal of their loved one to find happiness again. I'm not great at this, but I'm trying to let grief be one of the many currents in this ocean of existence and to let it intermingle with joy and pleasure in a way that makes me more appreciative. Bitterness can bring out the sweet. It's a process.
I had to click when I saw 2 of my favorite humans shining through this wasteland. I’ve never seen Colbert but I’ve seen Nick several times. Always joyfully stunning. The joy that gives you chills.He’s so inspirational. Bad seeds are the real deal!
I have seen him live more than any other musician… he has been a tremendous inspiration. He has evolved and transformed as I have as I have changed and aged. It is so rare to have such a treasure grow with you.
Nick was interviewed on our national broadcasting TV station very recently (Just aired on Monday night) and he spoke very openly about his past, growing up as an iconic Australian musician and he and his wife's grief for the separate losses of their two near adult sons. Something that Mr Colbert can deeply identify with. I'm 65 and an Australian touring musician with my own children and grandchildren who has watched Nicks musical transformation over many decades from 'The Boys next Door', 'The Birthday Party' (regarded as a very 'dangerous' band) to 'Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds' and more. Every incarnation is of great worth and needs to be looked at. Mr Colbert's personable manner in this interview was superb and genuine. Thank you.
This man lives just down the road from me, and while I have listened to his music my whole life, I never appreciated him as much as I did after this interview with you Stephen. I don't know you, but I've watched every episode of TV you've ever done, and you're a better interviewer the older you get. Exceptional.
A late night show has never brought me to the point of tears before. I’m not surprised that it was Colbert interviewing Cave that finally did it, but I’m so appreciative that Colbert has created the type of space where this type of conversation is possible. ❤
Nick describing the subtle, important, touching interaction with the nice gal at the restaurant where he lives after his son died got me in the feels. Touching his hand like that to non-verbally let Nick know she's sorry for his loss made tears come from my eyes at 5:30am in Sonoran desert makes sense a musician would find comfort that way they perform to create a similar experience well done on this interview Mr Colbert 🥲🌵
I've been struggling with grief for two years. Today I've been thinking about why I'm so stuck. I think I'm going to watch this again. Amazing interview. ❤
