Nier: Automata - 2B - Lost in translation 

Should've been "mackerel"

I like that a lot 😭

more than philosophical, i'd say technical..

For me the japanese way demonstrated here is the correct way.

Wait hold on she is Swedish

We need a banana tutorial. Origins of term and berry itself, usages, benefits, dangers, etc. With a lot of bananas in it.

banana bäñäñä ばなな バナナ b a n a n a ｂａｎａｎａ

I'm sorry, Despicable Me ruined me on that word. Now, anytime I see anything even remotely yellow I go fetal and start crying.

@@socks6881 Банан

@@socks6881 Ends up with Banena valey girl style XD

Upvote for miss blue

Alliteration, I like it.

Sad thing really, how most media is now localized instead of just translated. Growing up reading translations, newer subtilities always throw me off because they don't match with the Japanese audio

Makes me wonder how much change in character tonality the original Nier got in translation. Considering they actually changed the character, sort of..

Well that's why I dislike English dub so much as it's changed to fit feminist propaganda. I've seen this too many times to even call it hyperbolic or reaching. Not mention feminists themselves talked about how Nier Automata was a " Perfect feminist game " because of the amount of female characters in it. 2B and the female characters in the game are great not because they are women it's because they act like you or me and don't act like these communist who put their stamp on anything that has a group of women in it. I'd also like to say that for English dubs they tend to not have any like and or passion that the Japanese actors and actress have for their work. This's why I love Japanese culture and almost everything about it. They don't have to subscribe to a Feminism which's just another mask for communism and always have been under the guise of equality and female empowerment. They can show both a male and female, heck even children going through awful crap and do it well that people will have certain thoughts and feelings about, but they do it in such a way that it's relatable to the people watching it. Feminists and SJWs will see a 2D girl getting harassed or even raped then have a fit about how women have always been oppressed and anime is proof of that, yet they don't realize that's what they're doing to everybody else. Lastly you come away with learning something either about yourself or others. The reason feminists and SJWs try to stop people from doing that, is manly it makes people think and wake up to the world around, but it also makes them question the feminists themselves and they can't have people doing that now can they. " I mean how could people disagree with women voting and going to college? are you some kind of sexist who hates women and every race on this planet? " All an all Nier Automata is a masterpiece that I and I'm sure millions of others are glad wasn't infested with politics and man-hating nonsense.

I get what you're going for by using this quote but be careful where you use this. Heaps of localisation teams have been caught changing huge amounts of games/movies/tv shows because they personally didn't like the original in some way. A Localiser's job is to make sure that the content is understandable to an audience that doesn't speak the language. A Localiser's job is NOT to rewrite the original work.

same

Literally was thinking the same when she said that lol

Also same XD

It would probably be wasted on me.

I think it goes to show how English voice talents on dubbing roles often lack the level of direction the original cast had, and of the inputs from the directors themselves. It shows most especially in smaller, less big-budget titles like the one on topic.

You were there too lol? I remember her saying something along those lines.

That proves wrong people who defend bad localization as deliberate and necessary for "western audiences to understand the plot or the emotions". Not only is this argument patronizing and insulting to Western audiences, but it is flat-out wrong. Localization that changes characters' intent, personality or emotion often comes from a lack of direction and understanding of the actual emotion that's supposed to be portrayed. Thanks for your comment.

From the video itself, the “I’m good” line is a clear example. You could say those two simple words in a _Variety_ of ways, from contentment, stubbornness, facade, hesitancy, dismissiveness, and everything in btwn. In Japanese, the equivalent to “I’m good” is spoken, but the tone is more hesitant. In English, it’s spoken dismissively.

@@RickGrimes807 Yeah that assumption about western audiences almost sounds kinda racist.

Slowly? You wish!

@@23Scadu I was trying to be optimistic for a change haha

trapped in a never ending cycle of repeat plays

And I only bought the game last month and recently got ending C and need to get ending D.

your finger's what?

I love hearing Sophie too.

Doesn't every one love hearing Sophie. She has the most soothing voice

i think we want that 2 hour language class she mentioned in the video XD

ASMR

makes me wet

she was also on some streams with 9S' Eng VA as he played through the game. You could hear her criticizing her own performance or complimenting it depending on certain parts. it was actually cute, and also an interesting look into the mind of a VA when brought onto a project they know little about but _want_ to do their best with.

@@Xenmaru00 Yea I kind of consumed most things related to Nier Automata, the concert reading with the corresponding VA reading parts are wonderful as well

In spanish it's a little easier to keep the same feeling but almost always we get the english translated version and we adapt from there, that it changing though .

I mean, the original Nier had a huge change

@@christopher961 In what way?

@@gatro91 The protagonist was completely changed

If you customized with both culture, you can feel it, feel the differences, strangeness

I was waiting for the break in character as well. We could probably all picture that there are at least an hour of outtakes edited out.

Yeah ! No cursing !

JoJo's Dank Adventures so five years?

Its so fitting too. i only noticed today.

Who also Voiced Violet from Violet Evergarden. One of the reasons 2B is best girl (in Nier)

Yui Ishikawa specializes in the pure but deadly type of female characters.

@@r_k4146 true

@@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920 2B ain't even close to be the best Nier girl

You're absolutely correct. My Psychology teacher once made a point by writing on the whiteboard two of the same sentences with two different emojis at the end of them to show how even body language such as facial expressions can change the meaning context of a sentence. What he wrote looked like this: A. Can you meet me in my office? : ) B. Can you meet me in my office? ; ) He went on to say that one is school appropriate while the other would most likely get him fired. xD

After finishing it in English, I'd always meant to go back and replay it with Japanese audio, but never got around to it...

@@SolarShado I wanted to play again in Japanese but I didn't want the characters to go through the cycle once more. It had such a perfect ending.

Feel the same way, that's how I interpreted 2B's voice acting.

Erdna SpeedSoldier or she could do a 2B language class

Well the matrix is heavily inspired by anime, so it makes a lot of sense

Missing out

Get it man, it's really good.

^

It’s not for everyone. As much as it’s been praised I found the game incredibly boring

ogletret Have you beaten it yet?

I usually watch em twice, because I can't focus on what's being said. ...I can't focus on the second attempt too but it's a good excuse to hear Sophie twice.

She has an amazing giggle too.

I found that the Japanese script was more of a typical "stoic" character myself... and I thought that the western localization actually worked a lot better with a bit more complexity but that's just me... both are very amazing characters

@@thepurehealer1279 I thought the English localization made 2B more of a typical "feminist" character kinda like Captain Marvel, which was a big turn off for me.

@@user-px6hf8zs6b even as a pretty right leaning guy... I didn't see it, she isn't really advocating something or considering herself above she is just kinda... mean, rude, and standoffish, which isn't necessarily a bad negative trait for a character especially since she does warm up a lot to 9s and other surrounding characters

This is the main reason why dubs are always bad. It happens every single time. This is drastic personality change.

Woooo, go ff14 nier! Now I can cosplay as 9s even more than usual in ff14

Matdrekk Gaming for real? Can I have the link or source?

NGE was also an influence on the first Drakengard. If you know Drakengard you can probably guess what was inspired by NGE.

PolarPhantom True, tho the similarities between Automata and NGE are more prominent and stronger than the original Drakengard. They have the same main character archetypes (the stoic, the bitch and the shy introvert), very similar story beats (‘You and I are more alike than you think’ trope is in full speed here) and even the exact premise of a post-apocalyptic world being ravaged by aliens. Of course, they have their differences and I’m not saying Taro was stealing Anno’s notes or anything. All I’m saying is Taro made a better Evangelion than Anno’s own Rebuilds. Also, since he knew of Madoka Magica when developing Drakengard 3, I wonder if Taro knows of other deconstructive series like Hunter x Hunter.

The mod community fixed pretty much everything, although it would be nice if platinum made something official

@@ezepoliyu I've tried modding it, but the fix didn't work. The cutscenes still stutter and the framerate never runs at a solid 60fps, even though it should on my PC.

@@AshXXMayftw specs?? If you want I can help you

@UCulepDmrIdBwTUn1SFs2VqQ I recommend putting everything to max apart from antialiasing, which should be off

Subsequently, the FAR mod, and monitor everything with me I afterburner

She just didn't feel comfortable

Ive played the game in English, don't regret it, voice actors are absolutely amazing, tried to go to Japanese but couldn't really resist, also having to rely solely on reading ruins the immersion for me

GiRayne It reminds me of Steven Spielberg on Schindler's List: he planned to use setting-appropriate languages (German and Polish) in the film, but decided against it and stuck to English audio as he felt audiences would be distracted into reading the subs in the film.

Not like you people can even tell if japanese voice acting is even bad in the first place. Ignorance is bliss I guess

@@boshwa20 Emotion and acting Is a Thing That Transcends the language Barrier

@@Next-xm2dh Think of it this way: Anyone who has English as their first language knows EXACTLY how it works and how someone should normally talk like. Whenever there's something wrong in english voice acting, everyone instantly knows what's the problem with it. And now to Japanese voice acting, which about most people are exposed to through anime, you know, the stuff that greatly exaggerates practically everything? I don't think I have to say that normal japanese people do not have conversations like characters in anime. And most people either don't know, or just don't care at all. While everyone is criticizing English voice acting 100%, they're looking at japanese voice acting and barely giving 10%

Nah. Original > dub. Always. With original voices you can hear original voice acting directed by original creators and done by actors that are living in source culture. Dub is always taking everything out. Like bootlegs.

It's not really a jrpg though

@Alchalei If you define it like that the genre is a useless descriptor since both Nier and Octopath Traveller would be in the same genre, despite having fundamentally different gameplay design.

Sorry, I guess I’ve been misusing the word “Jrpg”

I would say Nier Automata is an ARPG. I would consider turn based games like Final Fantasy or Persona as a JRPG imo

He was actually also the voice actor for Grimoire Noir, which probably *was* the direction they were going with. Which is a little funny considering one of the pod skins is Grimoire Weiss... Anyway, yeah, there was a thing with that. Channeling Previous Nier, rather than Legion. So that was a surprise for me (or maybe others who played Nier before and recognized his voice as 'ah fuck' instead of 'this is fine') edit for clarification: DC Douglas, I mean. Not Yasumoto Hiroki.

I prefer Japanese cause I'm a weeb. That renders me immune to your objectivism.