As someone who has dabbled in game design, I always thought it would use up an unnecessary amount of resources to have both versions playing simultaneously so that the game could shift back and forth between both versions so smoothly, but it doesn't seem to affect the gameplay at all.
@@DamienBlade Playing a few (or a few dozen) audio tracks really doesn't require all that much resources. Besides, you only need to have both tracks playing during the crossfade.
@@MatthijsvanDuin the reason I thought it was playing both simultaneously was because they have to totally in sync for the effect to work properly. I'm sure they could probably do it just using basic timing, but that seems like it would have it's own problems.
"Dependent Weakling" is what runs through the mind of the boss. They see themselves as that, a dependent weakling, frustrated, with nothing but rage at their core, they fight you because there's nothing else they can do. I love how this track portrays that frustration, that rage, that turmoil. Dependent Weakling is a great title.
@@specialnewb9821 well he lost his one and only brother. Remember how 9S acts when he loses 2B? 9S descends into madness in a way that parallels with eve. 2B is everything to 9S, she's the world to him. Adam is the world to eve. Lose your reason for living, suddenly its frighteningly easy to lash out and hate everything since nothing fills the void that what you loved most did. Eve eve says it himself "as far as im concerned, my brother was everything to me. now that he's gone, everything must die!"
The 8-bit version is actually in the game when you "hack" an enemy you play this old school bullet hell mini game and the 8-bit version plays. When you win and leave the mini game, it goes back to the orchestrated version of the song. There's both versions for all the songs
There is MORE than that considering depending on the flow of the fight stuff like vocals are just missing and other stuff and I think also those tracks are converted to 8-bit
I will never get over how cool that is. I remember noticing it in-game and gushing over it for a while. I didn't like playing as 9S as much as 2B for probably obvious reasons (no, not the 100,000 polygons), but imo even the "weakest" parts of that game are incredible. The only reason I never 100%'d it is I don't want to sit and fish in the sewer for hours
@@dosterix6034 When you beat the game you get ending a. If you continue your save afterwards it allows you to play the game with 9s and get ending b. If you continue again you can get endings c, d, and e, which is in my opinion some of the best parts of the game.
The cool thing about the Nier Automata soundtrack is that every Track has three or four versions which are all running at the same time, but with all but one muted. There is usually one calm instrumental version, one more epic with more instruments, the vocals and an 8-bit version and the game can transition from one version into another seamlessly depending on the situation. An easy example of this was the beginning of the original Nier where a calm version of Song of the Ancients is the towns background music, but when you walk near an NPC who sings and plays the guitar, you can hear the vocals of the track too, depending on how close the NPC is. Other gameplay purposes can be that you change from exploring to fighting, or even into an epic boss fight. Another is when the second main character, 9S, starts hacking an enemy, the music transitions into the 8-bit version and back.
On an additional note. not all songs have an 8 bit version, but the ones that do not are run through an 8-bit filter when required. Pretty nifty filter.
Automata is one of those games where I can rarely place where a song plays by the title, but as soon the song starts, I 100% know exactly where it plays.
The best thing about that transition is that you literally called that it was going to happen at the very beginning, and it still got there in an unexpected and incredibly satisfying way.
Keiichi Okabe is incredible and should be counted up there with some of the video game greats, like Nobuo Uematsu. His style can only be described as “unorthodox” and it plays in such a fashion that it’s pleasing on the ears as well as mind blowing on the senses.
Both nier and Mgr run their bgm simultaneously in different variations but always at the same timestamp so the engine just switches audiochannels and the dynamic change happens. It's kinda funny that this feature is so underused in today's gaming as it's literally possible to emulate in the rpg maker 2000 software...
I like that FFXIV uses it in Eureka and Bozja... Wind on the Plains/Blood on the Wind was something else to experience for the first time switching seamlessly from zone music to the remixed battle music. It was mindblowing.
All the 3DS Fire Emblems do it when you go from the map screen into the combat screen and back again and it’s the best thing ever. Especially Fire Emblem Fates because its OST is so massive across the three routes and they all have dual versions
Yeah, people act like dynamic music has to be as intricately designed as DMC5, when really you get a still quite impressive effect just from this one simple trick that gamedevs don't want you to know
at this point you should just play automata. Hearing the music on its own is one thing. Hearing it in its native environment is BREATHTAKING! Also, the game itself is fantastic and even has extra options to make combat easier for those who have a hard time playing that kind of game.
I ain't even afraid to say It upon first listen once I heard the chorus. I was in tears and it became my instant favorite song of the whole game. So much anguish in this song while maintaining a sense of resolve that everyone is fighting for something and the decision affects everyone. Christ. What a great listen
So to give some lesser spoiler context as to the name for this track. This plays for the games first "final" boss (nier can be weird and there are multiple final bosses). Essentially earlier we kill thier brother who was the brains of the operation and now the other lost thier purpose and is essentially throwing a MASSIVE tantrum...hence the title "dependent weakling".
It's a bit intertesting thing regarding songs in Nier Automata - because one of two main characters is a Scanner Unit (9S), he has ability to scan and hack enemy units. When he does so, entire battlefield changes and music changes to the simple shapes and game turns into 2d shooter. Music in this mode also changes to 8-bit rendition dynamically. In general Nier Automata OST is way more epic in scale than in original Nier. I am not sure if anybody on Patreon requested you to react to Gods Bound By Rules, which is from original but still one of most epic themes I've heard. After release of Nier Replicant ver.something something Square became more agressive on defending their IP and keeping Nier OST to their chest - just a half year ago I was able to download any version of game's OST in any way I wanted... Now it's WAY harder to do and they do not deliver vynils to my country T_T
Keiichi Okabe, one of my favorites composers in games with Drakengard and Nier series. One of my favorites ost from him is from Drakengard 3 "The Last Song".
Haha the transition reaction lol Honestly you don't even hear the 8bit till you play 9S(2nd playthrough). It also took me by surprise when I first hacked an enemy. Definitely the coolest thing for sure.
I loved your statement about video game music. Some days I feel like listening to ffxiv or bloodborne or nier music instead of listening to any sorts of contemporary bands. Video game music has a way of capturing emotions just the same as any other music you'd listen to, and sometimes carry even greater weight because of the stories you experienced with this music in the background. And man, some of these composers are mind blowing
Nier Automata, not only in the music spectrum but also as a whole is a piece of art. you should try it if you can also its a homage to videogames in general
this is one of my all time favorate ost from automata, it only plays for a couple boss fights. It's also awesome to hear someone else basically gasim from the same transition or sounds that I do for video game music lol.
I would love to hear you react to more nier automata music. Those are the ones where you get several versions of their songs, over replicant "Birth of a wish" specifically has the most iterations. Check them out! Love watching you enjoy this kinda stuff keep it up!
To continue with the theme of dynamic themes, should check out "Escalating Battles" from Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. It's not the official name of the song, but they way the music works in the game is there are multiple variations of the main battle theme that escalate in intensity depending on how strong the enemy you are facing is. Link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uzQlqElLYps.html&
This is actually just like all the other NieR songs you've heard, you're just listening to the combined version of one for once. Every NieR song has about 4-5 versions because the game has them all running at the same time, with only one being audible. When you transition boss phase or go to a different part of the map etc it transitions the song to one of the other ones in the background. Spotify has this combined version available for the whole soundtrack.
If you liked the transition from 8-bit to the full orchestra version in this, you’ll love “Weight of the World - End of Yorha.”it’s the credit song, though Weight of the world is a major song in the game. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GYJK3tocvgE.html
The way the music swaps 'forward and back' between grandiose and chiptune never gets old. I really enjoyed hacking in Automata, so the chiptunes were a big treat. You'd be glad to know that pretty much the ENTIRE OST has chiptune versions.
If you want some cool 8-bit/video gamey style tunes you might to start looking for some songs from a game series called Touhou. The entire series, music and all, are done entirely by a single guy named "ZUN" and boy does this series have some bangers. If you want a classic 8-bit sound look at Sleeping Terror or Legendary Illusion - Infinite Dream and if you want one of his best newer songs look at Entrust this World to Idols - Idolatrize World. Yes, his music has kinda silly names.
@@DiogoLZobviously I can but he's listening to a mixed version which includes more than one version of the song. There was a youtube channel which used to upload all NieR songs like this mix but it was deleted, hence why I asked. It's a simple copy and paste lol it's not like I'm asking much 🤨
@@VectoredPromise ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jsLBhh4RxeI.html Here, it's probably this one. It took me literally less then 10 seconds.
I honestly can't place this song in the game anymore, can anyone confirm whether the beginning is from a 9S hacking section ? Not gonna lie the 8bit part was kind of hard to get through, but once that was over - Ok back to standard Nier thank God -
@@Elidan1012 didn't enjoy tbh, Ingame my mind was split between the music and the game so didn't notice it, but giving 100% to the music now... Don't hate it per se just that my enjoyment of the track spiked significantly after the 8bit part was over :)
"The Universe hurt me" (Or maybe you said, "Heard me"? Sorry if I misunderstood lol. But the former is certainly fitting.) What a statement hahah. Still right though.
