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Nietono (Olimar) vs DEHF (Falco) LB6 

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APEX 2012
Day 3: January 8th, 2012
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ
Losers Bracket round 6
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@GarTheStar
@GarTheStar 11 лет назад
Well my friend it works like this: 1) new game created(all aspects are unknown) 2) interested players spend hours playing and discovering characters, tricks and eventually glitches or cheap-outs(gimps) 3) if the game is popular enough..these discoveries will be displayed on forums or tournaments. 4) finally with all of those things in consideration tier list are finalized and metagame has been established. After that, its just players trying to add to the metagame database with more findings.
@44Retro
@44Retro 12 лет назад
Why did Larry keep phantasming on-stage? I could be wrong, but it could have been: 1. Phantasm DESTROYS most of Olimar's options, so logically Falcos use it more in this matchup, one of the underlying reasons why it's a tougher MU for Olimar. I think Larry was just getting greedy with phantasm (after Nietono got his spacing right for delivering punishes,) when he should have been safely going for the ledge. 2. He got nervous and missed the ledge by mistake. (It's Apex, so yeah.) 3. Both.
@Maioneselover
@Maioneselover 12 лет назад
In my opinion, DEHF could have won, if he had been less PREDICTABLE in these moments: 1:10 4:05 6:03 8:16. In fact he had never cancelled Phantom, getting readily smashed by the opponent. If he had cancelled Phantom, he could have ledge-grabbed with a safer recovery, thanks to invincibility frames, deceiving Nietono.
@PrettyPieHead
@PrettyPieHead 12 лет назад
Larry shoulda won this ... looks like he got freaked out by the pikmins so he used alot of time shaking them off instead of reflecting new incomers. That, and minor spacing errors I've rarely seen him do
@ForteFreak
@ForteFreak 12 лет назад
fucking DEHF kept trying to hit nietono with side b from off stage and nietono just punished every time! he could have won that first match easily if he had played safer.
@isambo400
@isambo400 12 лет назад
Is there a reason DEHF kept side-Bing onto the stage instead of to the ledge? I think he would have won if he didn't eat critical smashes while doing that.
@ForteFreak
@ForteFreak 12 лет назад
A pro player like DEHF wouldn't have missed a tech like that so many times. It wasn't just once or I would agree with you. He just wasn't playing safe imo.
@44Retro
@44Retro 12 лет назад
Great match though, very entertaining. Congrats to the Japanese for their outstanding performance this year, as well as some of our U.S.A. smashers!
@garthh1257
@garthh1257 11 лет назад
That's just olimar. Not many big combos, just camps a lot and then tries to get an up smash or grab throw once the opponent hits triple digits.
@JusttShanee
@JusttShanee 12 лет назад
Explain the sour spotted dair 8:20, could have easily gone for a side smash to win, or an up smash, both would have killed even with DI
@Alreadydonethis
@Alreadydonethis 12 лет назад
@djmikeaaronr It's just how Falco's role ;d. Nah, I just think the phantasm's were to kill all the weak pikmin, decreasing his grabs etc.
@nestortorres1182
@nestortorres1182 12 лет назад
I'm curious as to how a community or individual can "create" a metagame. I didn't think it worked like that.
@alienation69
@alienation69 11 лет назад
Olimar is up there with IC when it comes to being annoying to play against but to watch my god Olimar sux
@GarTheStar
@GarTheStar 12 лет назад
every game is stupid, that why we created meta game to abuse stupidity and make it competitive.
@DirEnRefused
@DirEnRefused 12 лет назад
Actually, the first third of phantasm has "priority" over every pikmin. It has no hurtbox.
@RedxWolfxFangus
@RedxWolfxFangus 12 лет назад
falco was way too predictable with the side special recovery. that what got him killed.
@DirEnRefused
@DirEnRefused 12 лет назад
DEHF should've camped more. Reflector, SHL, phantasm. Oli can do fuck all about it.
@daBeetzify
@daBeetzify 11 лет назад
Nietono ownssss DEHF in the last like 30 seconds of the first match holy crap!!
@slio044
@slio044 11 лет назад
ya but the most best pikmin to have are purple,blue and maybe yellow.
@1570shadow
@1570shadow 12 лет назад
its funny, the Japanese said he is victorious because of reds.
@BaldyMcNosehair
@BaldyMcNosehair 12 лет назад
@erickgm15 The frame trap is done to punish air dodges though.
@Phi1ny3
@Phi1ny3 12 лет назад
Wow, someone who actually DESTROYS the purples for once.
@MasterofFlare
@MasterofFlare 12 лет назад
Larry needed to Side B cancel more when recovering..
@MrBeeksma
@MrBeeksma 12 лет назад
DEHF was being too relaxed with using his phantasm against Nietono that first round, and that's what got him killed. Normally phantasm has priority over all the pikmin EXCEPT the yellow ones. That's just how good at keeping track of his pikmin Nietono is.
@JulesTrades
@JulesTrades 12 лет назад
very fun match to watch ~Jtails
@ketsuaza
@ketsuaza 12 лет назад
ビジョン狩り対策の甘さが目立つというよりも むしろにえとののビジョン狩りがすごすぎる
@WedginatorX
@WedginatorX 12 лет назад
Excuse me if I'm wrong about something, but shouldn't have Larry been trying to side b to the ledge more vs. Oli rather than straight onto the stage?
@Aureliants
@Aureliants 12 лет назад
That last kill on falco first match was a shocker
@ZWarrior89
@ZWarrior89 12 лет назад
Falco has jab cancel?? I never knew!!
@marcbribrawl
@marcbribrawl 12 лет назад
@erickgm15 Larry just missed the uair and it actually beats nair.
@q0zi
@q0zi 12 лет назад
Toss away the red Pikmin, yellow is the supreme breed! DarWIN'd.
@pappleparker
@pappleparker 12 лет назад
COMAWN LARRY ITS 2012, WHERE U AT?!
@CFRerem
@CFRerem 12 лет назад
Absolutely insane edgeguard @4:03
@antonio1982gonzo
@antonio1982gonzo 12 лет назад
dehf very good falco. the best falco =D
@MrDragonslayer27
@MrDragonslayer27 11 лет назад
blue pikmin = alpha breed
@sh0shin
@sh0shin 12 лет назад
gosh olimar is annoying
@LuigiFan1305
@LuigiFan1305 11 лет назад
that falco is horrible
@jdvillao
@jdvillao 12 лет назад
OMG, Nietono is great!
@Triforce9426
@Triforce9426 12 лет назад
Your recovery was way too obvious, Larry
@Your_Bro_Bri
@Your_Bro_Bri 11 лет назад
scrubs everywhere
@SacredLiquid
@SacredLiquid 11 лет назад
@LuigiFan1305 dehf? lol
@MrKingFunk
@MrKingFunk 12 лет назад
Larry couldn't save us. =(
@NickLeonardi
@NickLeonardi 12 лет назад
why?
@moso9545
@moso9545 12 лет назад
ビジョン狩りェ・・  
@q0zi
@q0zi 12 лет назад
For Sparta?
@garthh1257
@garthh1257 11 лет назад
Based on what? Perhaps they average out with the best stats, but the mechanics of purple and yellow are also very useful. Perhaps more so than red.
@MindinViolet
@MindinViolet 11 лет назад
The best Pikmin to have changes depending on the match. Olimar players will go for different Pikmin depending on the match-up.
@sevenharmon6248
@sevenharmon6248 11 лет назад
sure is,that's why he is the best off all Falcos.
@iSkully99
@iSkully99 11 лет назад
first stage, music fits really good...
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