They just slapped a night shader with a night texture into it and called it a day. They could´ve really played with "Fullmoon" and "cloudy hidden Moon" asthetics to change stats on viewrange, visibility and spotting range when the moon either shows or hides within the night. A more dynamic battle would be fun based on weatherconditions and gamemechanic changes.
Night battles would have been cool if it was actually fairly dark, and the spotting mechanic was completely visual only. No enemy markers, no camo, just being able to see the enemy tank within your render distance or not. And firing your gun really lit up the area around your tank.
I have always thought the spotting mechanic in this game is crazy, i can see cars trees and buildings in the distance get destroyed but can’t see something 5x bigger than the car doing it, so my commander all of a sudden cant see as far because he got into a tank. Bonkers Dont worry tho I’m sure WG will solve this issue by introducing a new tank with a magnified view port for 600m view range great price of only about 40k gold,
There is a mode like this on Wot Blitz, called realistic (No minimap, no pen indicator, no spot ranges etc) it would be nice if they could trial it on wot
@@kanehood3478 How about the reverse of this. A random tank traverses a wide clearing and he's spotted, then some background timer runs out and the tank vanishes.
Around the time this video was uploaded, my father passed away. He loved playing world of tanks, that's why I gave him my old account on the SEA server. His favorite tank was the leopard 1, he wasn't particularly a good player but he enjoyed the game nonetheless. He'd barely have enough creds to repair and have full ammo on leopard 1 due to being F2P so he'd occasionally grind using other tier tanks. Today I logged into his account to see the Leopard 1, still not repaired. I'm thinking of saving all his replays so I could rewatch it all. He would always sneak away from my mom who'd be taking a nap with him, so he could secretly play cause she would always nag about him spending quite a bit of time playing when left on his own. (She would nag cuz she worried about his health)
I wonder if Blitz's Realistic mode would be interesting in PC. (Unlimited view range, no enemies on map, healthbar only shows when you sight and target someone) For me, this has created a terrifying sort of game where its very....realistic. You have your head CONSTANTLY on a swivel, scanning the horizon for any tanks lurking in bushes or peeking around corners. And you have to hide behind real obstacles, and if you have sharp eyes, you can shoot enemies before they even realize you're there.
All that would bring is cheat clients increasing ten-fold. Remember WoT has Gold ammo. Pay for strait up advantages. Cheating is happening in games with ZERO insentive to be doing it. Only to increase stats and be 'superior' or whatever cheaters excuse is to be doing it in the first place.
Then what would the point of the mode even be? It’s just unmounting coated optics from every vehicle. If everyone mounted coated optics, it would literally be regular gameplay minus one equipment slot.
@@trogdortamer48 The point of the mode should to be make feel battles on those maps "feel" different, fresh, not to change mechanics (or only slightly change them). It should be visual candy (same as winter/autumn map variations), nothing more. Maybe adding different dynamic events to those maps would be a good idea to make them different instead changing core game mechanics.
Two main issues with this game mode. 1) view range reduction percentage: this as QB mentions inherently buffs camo values immensely. One of the most frustrating things about this change instead of capping the MAXIMUM view range is that you essentially diminish the margin to spot opponents. This game mode should have instead buffed camo values, kept the flash in the night to return to normal non-night camo values, and then reducing render ranges so that camping is much less encouraged and you have teams moving around to get spots and damage. 2) render distance: camping and TD gameplay is hardly affected in this game mode. An incredibly small impact to render distance encourages routine camping in positions that you would expect in random battles. There is no longer variation or limit to the normal TD spots. Reducing render distance would mean that plays through the middle of the map through unconventional routes are less risky and potentially rewarding if TDs cannot aim in and camp constantly. Could have been a cool arcade. Railgun is by far going to remain the most popular
Totally disagree with TD gameplay, I think it’s really easy to farm many thousands by simply shooting in an open field from 370m away. The whole map is vastly opened up and it makes it far more difficult for other players to position themselves to avoid your line of fire. As long as you are being mindful of the ELC, you can play TD’s in places that would otherwise be impossible.
@@trogdortamer48 I think you actually agree. By reducing maximum render distance you are forcing TDs to leave the usual camping spots and find new locations closer to the front. And in turn, the shorter view range and render distance affords TDs more protection than normal when moving forward. It encourages TDs to find new and useful positions.
Before Infra-Red, heat vision or micro-bacteria night vision, on a moonless cloudy night you saw nothing. That's the current model as I see it. Maybe next time we could have, IR, noise level (tanks are very noisy yes?) and tank lights (plain ol lights most tanks have). Light tanks could have image intensifiers and spot for the group.
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I honestly can't overlook the inconsistency in the moon's size - the one on Sand River looks ripped from GTA San Andreas while the one on classic Mannerheim Line looks realistic lol P.S I encourage you to see the changes WoT RU is considering on Abbey in their 1.28 update, completely changes the dynamic of the map. Honestly wish we would get something similar on EU rather than the night battles crap :/
They could do something interesting on night mode to help offset the spotting issue by showing all tanks in render distance as if their spotted but no icon or tank outline when you aim at it unless the vehicle actually is spotted. Would make things pretty interesting.
The equipment problem is in theory easy to fix and keep fair by implementing a set that is only active at night maps and not usable on normal maps. Aside that I agree with most statements of QB.
Dude, “1 in 10 or so” I have two standard battle maps in the row. wg said that you always have a different map, indeed. Now with 1 in 10 you either in dark every battle or newer see that night battles. Think twice about your wishes 😮
Maybe a night vision module to take up a slot and restore that 35%? Or maybe 25% restored. Also, maybe night maps should have a 60 second start timer and you only get a third build on night maps, which you can loadout in that 60 seconds. Idk just an idea.
I wish they'd done something with headlights on tanks. The maps are so dark its difficult to manouver and traverse sometimes, so maybe we could turn our headlights on at a heavy decrease to camo rating? And leaving headlights off should also do the adverse, increase camo rating. It seems like a fun mechanic to make the darkness really dark and keep the spotting up to players needing to actually see and use their lights. This could even have unique balancing as different tanks have different levels of lighting, and some tanks have spotlights. That could make things like the Centurion's spotlight useful for spotting distant tanks, and maybe we could actually use the grenade tubes to fire off flashbangs or flares that mimick vehicle lights? Way too ambitious thinking for Wargaming, but I thought it was a cool idea
oh $hit,just clicked and 5 outta 7 comments are bots,they have a big booty as their profile pic and almost always say how intelligent or how much of a contribution the uploader is adding to something,who the hell knows,but why cant YT do something about that? but Id like to play night battles in randoms,just give ppl the option to turn it off and on like grand battles for ppl who dont like it
I'd like more developed night battles in the RQ. With the option to opt out. with lights on tanks, with outline or not depending on being spotted maybe. The current system doesn't capture night battles I think.
"Night battles" -its almost as bright as normal maps, and the vision is reduced-awesome. THey should really think about adding lights to tanks. With them ON you see more but you are easier to spot, and other way around with them OFF.
I think they need a night map specific mechanic, like tank lights or a spotlight where using a spot light allows you to spot the enemy farther but at a cost of reducing your camo. Or possibly a set of optics used for heat signatures or some kind of night vision tuning. What they have now doesn't work great. This could be done with another tank build that is setup only for night maps.
One thing i like about night battles is the fact that everyone is the same tier. Only play this mode for the bonds so not really bothered about the mechanics of spotting and camo. Most games are over within 7 to 8 mins anyway.
I wish world of tanks would add modes that would have natural disasters. Like hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, fires, and sandstorms by changing the landscape and making the map more interesting. That would be cool
I think it would be kind of cool if they had some sort of infrared vision system (like the Germans had on the Panther) that you can toggle on and off, kinda like the turbo charger for the Polish meds. If it’s on you have better view range/render distance but less accuracy/gun stats or something
They could use night vision in sniper view. Also what about a sunset or sunrise mode or use weather in the game like rain or snow maybe extreme weather like tornadoes or earthquakes lightning.
I get if its a full moon night you could see across the map like in these games, but otherwise I want actual night time visibility where you cant see actual structures and details very far around you.
I think it can be better, they can modify the cvs to be more competitive since cvs is about infrared so it would make sense to have it more useful at night. They also need to chill on that 35% view range, I think 20 or 25 makes more sense. on the other hand, for tier10 I always play 121B with binoculars and vents, you can get to around 400 view range and I basically just shoot everyone and never get spotted because usually they'll have about 350 or less. They still can further improve it, but it's kinda tricky.
I'm a bog-average player. I didn't bother with any special equipment load-outs. I didn't play any particularly stealthy vehicles. I enjoyed the visual appearance of the maps, and I overall enjoyed playing the mode. As an optional, non-competitive mode I thought it was fine.
IT'd work if ya had a TTS on that tank, thats a nitrogen cooled thermal tank sight, TTS, then its essentially a day map with the ability to see your enemy, even when you can't because their exhaust actually gives away their position
Why not change the maximum spotting distance for each class like 450m for lights and 250m for heavies because the lights are so useless that sometimes, there are not any lights in the match making.
whats really funny is that they can't even give the vehicles a toggleable spotlight to vastly decrease the user's camo rating in exchange for guaranteed spotting nonbushed vehicles in a cone because not every vehicle would get it and it would require them to account for the spotlights in 3D styles.
I enjoy the night maps only at night. The lighting effects from gun flashes, and ammo racks look really good on my monitor, and the ambient sounds are all different as well, however, I wish this mode would make you more credits.
WG needs to make a NVG module that is required to play the game mode, This will make you pick and choose what modules are most important and get away from the cookie cutter builds. The NVGs will also get away from what looks like an old Black and White TV series night scene.
the problem is not the night mode, its the ECL and borasque that are overpowered as hell, all you highlighted is how broken those tanks are. The mode is fine, it is just different than standard battles. They can fidle with the numbers as much as they want, those 2 tanks will be overpowered no matter what on this mode.
Maybe the feedback from last year they narrowed down to the reduced radio range reducing the enjoyment, so they are just retrying this year where the biggest change is that radio range isn’t reduced anymore but leaving the rest the same.
QB, I think the problem is mostly that you expect this mode to not change the gameplay too much but at the same time change it enough to feel different. About the visual effects, indeed I think they are uncomfortable, but in the meantime no game ever managed to create a night mode that is both realistic and comfortable, because that's what night is, near absence of vision. Perhaps they should have pushed it farther and really reduced our depth of view but instead put headlights to see more clearly at closer range (but that would require a lot more work on their part), perhaps also the ability to toggle thermal vision. Take a step back and review the implications of this new rule set: - Reduced view range => All tanks are more difficult to spot - Massive camo penalty when firing => Tanks should be even more careful when firing - Shorter spot duration => Spotting is less likely to allow to damage the tanks, especially if it was because the tank fired. This makes passive scouting more important than active scouting What conclusion can we draw from that? Gameplay and tactics need to be a lot more different than what we are used to. This ruleset favors tactical movements on the map because most tanks can move on the map with less risk of getting spotted as long as they don't fire. It encourages small and targeted strikes instead of big pushes because you need to get a lot closer to spot a tank and because you are spotted for shorter, you can more easily move somewhere else. And because enemies have only a few seconds to fire when you are spotted, it makes it harder for them to react fast enough (which is why you shouldn't peek from the same position). It gives the attacker the initiative/surprise. Also, it makes scouting more thoughtful. Active scouting will mostly help to locate enemies but not to damage them. A well positioned passive scout is more likely to allow damage assist. This gamemode requires more (re)thinking, which isn't something WoT players are know for... I'm not saying it's great, but people complain mostly because of their inability to understand it and adapt. The main complain I would have is that this ruleset, just like most other fun/special modes, makes only a reduced set of tanks actually relevant. In this mode I find that medium tanks and fast heavies are the most effective (tanks looking like MBTs), because they can move on the map, spot for themselves and strike effectively. Big/slow tanks are even more useless than usual. TDs will struggle to fire before the target disappears again. Scouts will struggle to do any damage or get any assist damage, they will mostly give the information of where tanks are but rarely be rewarded for it. This might work better with smaller teams of 7 to 10, where players tend to move more on the map and use more teamplay. 15 is too much to encourage a more tactical playstyle.
It would have been cool if everyone was rendered all the time but no tags or hit points would show up until they were spotted same for both your team and enemy team.
Sorry QB, but nit everyone is sitting there day in, day out playing WOT. The normal player who has to go to work for a living may get 2 hours a day (if they are lucky). Please remember that what you may find boring as you have seen it 20 times a day will be new for the rest of us. That being said, keep up the content 95%.9f it is mighty fine.
Haven’t played world of tanks in a long long time but have been playing a lot of war thunder. And what’s nice that I feel would be good for wot players that war thunder has is the option to enable and disable night battles.
problem are not night maps but all maps in general . game become too fast and maps to small. plus unbalance tanks and permanent premium ammo use is make any strategy absolute .
it will be great if we can test the night experience with the normal day battle at the same round.. i.e.(late night at the start then morning at minute 9 for example or the opposite, day then night)
Why change I dont understand. Just make the moon a little bit brighter so its easier to see. No need to change view ranges and all that bs. Just have different time zone on every map. Like 3 time zones. Fiddling with view ranges and this 6 second spoting bs is just annoying. Everyone is used to wot being wot. To bring something a little bit ''new'' = 1 map could have Day time, morning and night look. Another map could have a morning, day time and evening look and so on. Just to make it look fresh. If i have to change all my equipment because of the night maps... Because all my tanks are blind... NO thx. Just make it look nice. that's it.
I think with it being introduced into the game it brought a different side of the maps, it also sucks that since the game mode only has like 4 maps or something it sucks when you get put into sandriver like 7 times out of 10, the fact that WG don't nerf premium tanks defintly sways the battle.
Best thing they could do with night battles is just make it purely cosmetic. As for the drab look? Well, we actually are not playing in places like Las Vegas which have a vibrant night life.
This mode should have been a simple visual change from the beginning rather than a weird mode. The view range reduction in my opinion would be a horrible change without a massive map rebalance. With the exception of a few city maps, most battles depend on the light tanks.f If they do fine you can play, if not and they die early most of the time it's an automatic loss. I don't think that battles should be even more dependent on light tanks which are the hardest tanks to play well and most people struggle with.
In my opinion in night battles the spotting should have been taken out and all tanks be visible but not on the minimap until you look at them for a period of time and the night should be more darker to make it fair
You’re not having fun because you’re chasing mechanics. You play it like a normal game, with normal tanks without abusing the system and you start to enjoy it.
@@scoutboy776because there is no other game which combines fps, rts, strategy, tactics. Even though it is an arcade game it is so much deeper than any fps on the market.
That there are no changes with the Night Battles kinda hints at WGs development department being nearly dead. I mean, just look at maps in general, when was the last time we got a new map? Feels like 90% of resources at WG nowadays go into monetization aspects like lootboxes/premium tanks.
In this gamemode I actually didnt bother at all with lights and meds. Just played my Bisonte and won about 60% of all my battles. The heavy tank gameplay rly didnt change much compared to the random queue
I still like the idea of different battle conditions ingame like reduced view range but it's far from being refined in any case at this point. Also we are complaining about the heavy tank meta while still justifying heavy tanks with 400m view range, this makes no sense to me. Sure tank destroyers, but if heavy tanks are the superior option buffing tds by reducing ht view range sounds kinda viable. Maybe for night battles some sort of noice detection would be nice, you can really hear everything in the dark, so you don't get spotted by Vision rather then sound. I'm sure if you want to make night battles work there must be a way to do it. And clearly not just adjusting some sliders of already existing statistics. Also headlights or any light source on a tank plays a big role. So while driving you either can't see anything in the dark or you're shining bright like a Christmas tree. So maybe some night battle mechanic which either makes your driving worse or makes your camo worse depending if you switch it on or off sounds great to me. Also imagine a special artillery shell that lights up an area for x seconds and reduces camo of the vehicles inside the area and potentially blinding the enemy as well. There is potential for interesting gameplay with night battles.
heh.. what's the point of night maps if the lights on the tanks are not functioning? Even if it's just for visual enjoyment. I remember 2 years ago they made those cinematic videos for new tanks (and skins). If they went for a night scene those had fancy lights sitting around camp fires..
QB --- Usually you and I share similar opinions. I couldn't disagree with you more here. I think this is a refreshing change and good way to breathe life into tired old maps. Mind you, I wouldn't enjoy this mode everyday all the time, but for a short period ---- I really like it!
I am so glad I left the game a year ago. Funny seeing things go downhill still. Wishing QB the best after WoT dies. Hopefully he finds a fruitful carreer in other games.
This mode highlights everything I think is wrong with WoT today. Crew Skills and Equipment are king and only serve to make broken tanks even more broken. They aren't good for the game as a whole. But for this mode, the fix is to limit draw/render distance further. If View Range is cut by 30% draw distance of spotted tanks should be cut by at least 30%, but probably 40%. This discourages camping. I actually don't mind the inherent boost to camo for tanks, but I think that firing through soft cover should offer much less benefit. A muzzle flash is going to be bright, but this is an arcade game, make it super bright. This game mode needs to be about getting in closer for combat and it would encourage more movement since it's safter to cross open terrain without cover and take more aggressive positions as long as you don't fire. What we got was a camo intensive camping game where a good scout for a firing line has a massive advantage because camping is more incentivized in this mode. Teams that bunch up and move together can be spotted by one enemy, shot by multiple, and realistically only spot the one enemy.
-35% view range is ABSURD, and far too drastic of a change to combat view saturation. If maxed-out passive spotting LTs can't even reach the max view range, why bother having a max view range at all?
I don't understand why WG thinks they need to run non-stop 'special events' anyway. The barrage of events is numbing. Always something to grind or FOMO.. Personally, I'm done with them, except Frontlines.
Been a wot lover since last 11 years but i finally switched to war thunder with my friend group as wot is just a memory to me now of once a great and iconic game that went downhill due to greed and unnecessary politics.
WOT+ account - I've sold ALL my standard equipment that has a Bounty equivalent - made over 30M credits. I can now move all my Bounty stuff around for free so any battle I enter I will always have Bounty equipment ( I have a few Bond ones as well dotted around ). It's not really fair - but it wasn't supposed to be. I've got 3 complete sets of Bounty equipment of all types now ( Battle Pass...... ) . It really is Pay-To-Win........
I thought they were fun (for a change of pace / few games here or there). But, this is my first year in the game and never saw night maps previously and I am very much a casual player. Could it be better, sure. I wish I had some tier 8 light tanks grinded, I was stuck in the few heavies I had available.
I'm not sure if WG doing nothing is a bad thing. Everything they HAVE done something for has become actively worse. Also, what they probably should have done. Leave View Range alone, but buff camo for all tanks. But keep the setting where firing (muzzle flash) destroys the camo entirely.
I want rainy battles the tank moves slower when in dirt or sand and the road will be a bit slippery risking fast tanks to flip over or get out of control
I agree that there is too much view range in this game. However if they nerf it for 10% will make all the premium tanks (which they dont nerf) even more over powered.
I think they could fix the visual aspect by simply adding some interacting lighting to create diversity in the maps - this is what’s missing. Everything looks the same. Blown up tank here, dud missile there. ANYRHING is better than straight up nothing.
