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@@Mongrelntruder I've been thinking about doing something like that with the gangs! I think that would be alot of fun. I also think Morgan Blackhand is a great idea! Maybe I'll wait until after Phantom Liberty for him though just in-case we get any new info. Thanks for the suggestions!
Hey wheres all the text from ? Is there like a cyberpunk book? Seems very interesting learning about Smasher kinda wish the game went a little deeper on him
15 years service contract in return for saving your life is actually pretty decent considering most normal work contracts in NC require a pledge of at least 20 years
For Johnny's memories, everyone seems to forget that the relic/biochip was lower than 86% integrity when Jackie put it in his head which could attribute to his memory being off.
The engram is basically a digital clone. Not a transfer. Just a digital clone of incomplete data. Basically ghost echo of a terrorist with cyberpsycosis
That line by Jackie in the beginning…the first time I played the game I didn’t know lore-wise who any of those people are, so it just seemed like he was listing out famous names out of a Cyberpunk lore book, but once you know who all those people are it becomes a lot more interesting and reveals a lot about Jackie Welles as a character. A lot of the people Jackie talks about when he fan-boys are on opposite sides of conflicts, like bringing up both Blackhand and Smasher, but Jackie doesn’t really care all that much about all that. He’s not really “political” in the way we think about it, he just cares about the fame and glory of the fight, which is both naive and oddly endearing. God I love Jackie
@@freshnesbro3792Jackie was? I’m glad they changed that if so. I wish we could get a prequel to 2077 with the adventures of V and Jackie all game honestly.
I kinda dig the idea of Johnny being an unreliable narrator of his own memory. I do think he died in his first encounter with Smasher in the building instead of on the roof. Johnny just recalls it wrong and fills in the gaps with his own narcissistic version. Johnny thinks Smasher is some age-old rival but in truth Smasher barely cares about him at all.
Rather he didn’t escape up to the roof. You first meet Johnny in a a digitized copy of the room where he first got ambushed by Smasher. I feel you find him there because that’s where he met his end.
I’d like to think they did have some kind of rivalry between them, considering Adam seems beyond pissed when he gets beaten by what is basically the second coming of Johnny.
You can actually tell everything after that first encounter doesn't make sense from one detail. On the rooftop scene with Smasher, he shoots Silverhand's arm off. In the interrogation with Saburo, it's not only still attached, but completely unharmed.
It's definitely canonical as per Alt that the memories are Johnny's biased recollections of them, and are heavily flawed- not only was the chip possibly partially compromised, but memories themselves are famously very faulty (eyewitness testimony is extremely unreliable, to startling extents). However specifically regarding him dying on the rooftop or below, a couple of lines in '77 suggest that in that Canon he did die on the rooftop- V can grill Rogue for Johnny's death and their conversation suggests she saw it occur, which wouldn't happen if he'd died below. But far more compelling is in the Sun ending, Johnny nearly slips from the helicopter just like in '23, but this time Rogue SUCCESSFULLY catches him and says "Not this time!". She could just mean leaving him, but I think it's more likely to be a direct reference to her not being able to catch Johnny in time during the original raid.
I honestly believe the 15 year contract only existed theoretically. Arasaka never intended for Smasher to make it that far and maintenance and upgrades on a full-borg would be too expensive without corpo sponsorship. Not to mention a possible Smasher Relic fully owned and controlled by arasaka.
Given Smashers rather evident love for violence the 15 years were probably a formality if anything, not like he was going to retire as long as they let him rampage.
@@emetanti He's like Trevor from GTA V but without freedom of doing whatever he wants Adam is much worse of a person in a way - at least Trevor has friends, in a way
Adam Smasher is the perfect example of why some sociopaths can overcome cyberpsychosis because they just don't care. His psyche, devoid any kind of empathy or human emotions, is pretty much impervious to the usual form of cyberpsychosis. And with the exclusive access to a Corp clinics (in that case Arasaka's) he was able to get a "replaceable" body, free of the burden of Humanity. All in all, he is nothing more than a "converted" / transposed deficient human psyche into a program, controlling a mechanical body. Edit: This is based on my PAPER source books for Cyberpunk. Dating from 1992 up to 1998.
I wonder how much the anime depicts cyberpsychosis "accurately". Like David and Maine were having delusions, mistaking memories for real life (David confusing Rebecca with his mom). Or maybe, David and Maine were too far off, and while Adam was unhinged from the begining, he wasnt as far off as the other two we have seen.
Cyberpsychosis is strongly implied to not be a real thing. Just a catch-all term for abnormal behaviour. Also, Mike Pondsmith described Adam Smasher as a "high-functioning cyberpsycho".
@@icarue993its because there emotions that started cyberpsychosis. too much stress that the machine in the algorithm couldnt keep up thats why smasher couldnt get cyberpsychosis.
Yup. As a somewhat sociopathic person myself it would make perfect sense that a full blown sociopath has a higher chance of essentially taming cyber psychosis, although he must also uniquely have a resistance to cyber ware considering not every sociopath in the series is immune.
Johnny Silverhands memories are flawed/manufactured to a degree, that's already canon in the CP2077 universe as confirmed by the AI version of Alt Cunningham. While his views are quite consistent, the exact stories of how things unfolded are up for debate, honestly such a nice touch to the lore.
He was easy to beat imo. I was ranked like 20 something and only used healths twice against him. Just ran around using the overload quick hack, the widow maker and some random pistol I modded.
We aren’t “forced to assume” anything Alt straight up tells us that Johnny’s memories are a fiction. It’s not a plot hole it’s very blatantly explained.
The thought that smasher is potentially an Elvis fan is hilarious. He could be playing Elvis tunes on his personal radioport while unleashing terror and levelling entire city blocks.
Gotta have some sort of sound track to your Danes Macabre. Elvish wouldn’t be my personal choice but hey I ain’t a High functioning Psycho Cyber borg so what do I know?
cdpr should've added some parts in the story that you need to fight Adam when v was still weak resulting to him barely surviving the encounter just so players would know how huge the difference in power is
As someone who did a fist only play through, on very hard, beating smasher with nothing but your grit, cold blooded, and your bare hands is super satisfying. That's for Johnny and Rebecca you overgrown toaster. Slaughtered 1000s, but in the end couldn't even take a walking corpse with high end gorilla fists and damn berserker augment.
We know that soul killing a dead person can result in a very flawed engram. Jackie, if soul Killed, is clearly extremely limited. Only able to speak in previous quotes. And that was the most recent version of the program. Johnny was copied in mid brain death, by an older version of SK.
In one conversation between Johnny and V, I believe after the voodoo boys, Kinney asks V what he supposes the worst thing was about mikoshi. After v takes a guess Johnny tells him that it was that they would change you and you wouldn't even know it. Johnny there and then pretty much states that he doesn't even know for sure he's the johnny that got killed, all his memories are effectively unreliable, the only reliable memories are the ones directly confirmed by Rogue. Not to mention the part where V experiences Johnny's memories with the voodoo boys and for him a lot of time passes but for Brigitte it was only an instant. Johny might have experienced his time in mikoshi as an eternity, he himself states he wasn't aware of how time passed, this together with manipulation and experimentation on his engram could easily explain why his perception of events diverges from what is stated by other narrators.
I think it's interesting that Adam refers to the warheads that did the initial damage as RPG-A warheads. As a militaria nerd, Cyberpunk is unique in getting many of the gun-stuff very right... and knowing that Smasher was in the biz of knowing such things, I find it hard to believe that he would have messed up such a designation. Perhaps it is a typo and he was hit with RP *O* -A Shmel warheads instead. Which would not be *any* better. In fact it might even be worse, lol.
Haha i'm not sure of how reasonable of the terminology is outside of the game most of the time, so this is a pretty interesting comment. I never considered if RPG-A was a real thing or not past the initial search I did that brought nothing up. I assumed it was just a Cyberpunkism! Very interesting.
@@jackglinsky4305 RPGs follow a naming convention like RPG-7, RPG-16, etc. They do not include letters. The rockets themselves are similarly PG7-V / OG-7, etc. The sourcebook has stats for an RPG-A w/ militech branding under that name, but it does not do any sort of AP damage whatsoever. like you'd expect a HEAT warhead to do, right?
@@memph1ston They do include letters. But back on topic, RPO-A makes sense. However, I don't think it's meant to be a RPO (thermobaric) or there would be nothing left of the body. If RPG-A is an abbreviation, it could also refer to the RPG-26 Aglen (lightweight disposable AT launcher). Still, it's probably none of those. The weapons in this universe are made up. So, the RPG-A is probably just inspired by the real life weapon and it's not meant to be an exact clone of the real thing.
@@bamcki991 you can hear the regret and acceptance in Vik's voice though. It's clear he's only content because he's gotten through his grief. Adam and Ozob seem genuinely happy.
Haha neither do I tbh. I just try and collect them all so and look through them when they pertain to a video. I like em though, always feels like I learn something new with them!
“In a way it’s almost frustrating that such a blatantly villainous character responsible for the deaths and disappearances of so many has had such a fruitful career and for so long” haha yeah, good thing that sort of thing never happens in real life right? Right?
What I would really want is a Cyberpunk game in which you play as Adam Smasher over the years. And I do mean including the events in 2023 & Edgerunners.
It would definitely be an opening for a pure action game, given how little Adam cares about anything beyond the fighting itself. The enormous number of different loadouts he used and the major names he fought open up a veritable theme park ride to be played through.
even if V chooses to zero him, considering he's lost more ganic and still somewhat has more to loose, there's a chance he's not even flat-lined. Even if that's not the case, Adam seems like the type to not only have the clearance, but the eddies and priority to be on the "secure your soul" program with his own relic. the moment the last vein in his chromed up brain stops twitching his entire psychotic consciousness is uploaded into the soul-killer, soon to be slotted into a body of pure chrome, no longer held back by a single shred of humanity. or who knows, maybe his digital mind is as built different as it's body, and finds it's way behind the Blackwall to become something far more terrifying.
Not really since the engram to body tech via relic was still a prototype even during the game it was only after Arasaka experiemnts/analayzes in the devil ending did they truly perfect the tech. Smasher still only consisted of a brain and spine a state which he was already in way before the relic program. And do you really think Saburo would allow a filthy gaijin get to use the immortality tech before him?
@@ye7625 Saburo has been keeping Adam like a feral dog on a leash for 80 years, he's a valuable asset and the head of the entire Arasaka security branch, a corporate military making him practically his general. if they can salvage whatever muck is left of his skull sponge and fix it or put it in the soul killer, they'll have their boogie man back.
@@myballspaul4889 The endings that could have you fight and zero Smasher has yorinobu in charge except for the devil ending Yori has no reason to resuscitate smasher since he doesnt want Arasaka to be strong even then the likelyhood that Smashers brain is even intact to be soulkilled is dubious and we see what happens to compromised brains (Jackie) now remember Arasaka has every reason to wring out a 1 to 1 copy of him since it involves Saburos death.... so not really?
@ye7625 I mean, you can see that in the timeline that you are in, there's already people on the list of having copies of their consciousness as engrams in the secure your soul program, like it is already working. You meet Lizzie for example who already has a secure your soul engram saved while still being alive. He could have his engram at any point updated to the soulkiller.
@myballspaul4889 yeah, but in the endings where Alt destroys Mikoshi, she likely kills Saburo for good and takes away the chance for Adam or anyone else in Mikoshi to be brought back.
I feel like the proof that Johnny’s memories were figments of his imagination is in the fact that during the memory sequence, when Johnny first encounters Adam inside the office it just cuts to black then the next time we see Johnny he magically escaped to the roof. I feel like everything after that cut to black is a figment of Johnny’s imagination, he was cut down right then and there when he first encountered Adam.
YES! way before getting into the lore i always felt that to be weird, yelling at my screen, HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET OUT! getting more context and understanding that he's an egomaniac, his memories have to be made up/manipulated to fit how he views himself.
I thought the same when I first played. Smasher jumped down from that balcony like the damn terminator with other guys with him. I knew Johnny was royally F’d. Johnny has a nice sidearm but he’s no Merc, he’s not nice like that 😂
I think it's far more likely Smasher wanted to have some fun. So he didn't say anything about V and Jackie behind the screen. So he didn't protect Hanako so he could go out and blow crap up to retrieve her. In the game we find out he's the reason Anthony Gilcrist betrayed Militech in the first place as Smasher was using a hostage as leverage. So without Adam's meddling V and Jackie would've never hit the major leagues, at least not in such a pyrrhic fashion. Smasher enjoyed devastation and its clear he used everything at his disposal to get more of it. If things were peaceful he wasn't having fun.
Johnnys memorys especially those of Smasher outright contradight each other. We See Smasher Kill Johnny twice once in Zen Garden Square Room in front of the Office and then again on the roof where Johnny seems to take the role of blackhand but instead of Dueling Smasher he gets absolutely bodied by him.
With Pondsmith mentioning Michiko's fling with Smasher was ran to his players it makes me personally wonder if there are any lore heavy NPC's that actually started off as PC's. I can easily imagine a player playing a character that made such a huge impact in the world that it was hard to miss and would be a missed opportunity to not make it canon. Or at the very least was a fun character to add in to the canon.
I think going over his role in the tabletop game would be useful - as a Code AS basically means everything is fucked since his actual stats are meant as a “get the fuck out or die” moment for any crew.
Remember v can do this un modded except for the most basic. A jack An eye scanner A bullet counter And a ricochet predictor That’s it one military mod and the rest are civilian grade In a sense v kills Adam with a spoon. He uses a spoon to kill a top of the line tank. if we are to compare there tech levels. Also he was two foot in the grave to boot. How
@@distinguishedallureproduct879 Thought V destroys his brain at the end. Then again, it's more than likely that Arasaka has his personality stored somewhere.
The boss fight is definitely not lore friendly. I don't think CD Red could probably make a boss fight that could showcase how much of an op broken monster Smasher was. I'm not sure how they could've coded his a.i. and the whole fight in game given the limitations of their game engine
Lovely run down on Adam Smasher, I've got no REAL feedback I can really give that doesn't just amount to "it wuz relly gud :D". Keep up the good work, and I'll look forward to your next video.
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@@everberonhonestly, I personally would be happy with anything you put out because you’re so comprehensive with whatever topic you’re talking about! Really awesome stuff man. Also, I just finished the video and it never occurred to me to question whether Smasher was a cyberpsycho or not and the fact that he is a high-functioning one is insane. Keep it up!
15:19 personally i think it’s C: he spent so long in soul killer than his memories and dreams/desires became one and we get a mix of what happened and what johnny wanted
For the silverhand stuff, I feel like all the material saying Silverhand got cut in half is the "truth" or the "official" story that gets told. but what really happened is johnny was captured instead. or that will be my head canon lol
I actually think Jonny survived the first encounter with smasher, this is because in the rouge ending when Jonny was suppose to jump on rouges ship he missed however rouge caught him and said something like ‘not this time Jonny’ I believe this was suppose to mirror the scene from Jonny’s memory were he missed the ship which caused him to die which was from the 2nd encounter with smasher
In regards to Johnny's memories of Arasaka Tower: I think what we see in 2077 is 100% what happened since Smasher gloats to Grayson about how pathetic Johnny's body looked after being soulkilled. My theory is that he was indeed lethally wounded by Adam, but patched up immediately afterwards by Arasaka so he could be secretly held after being declared dead. Johnny had more than a couple of mods internally and even some synthetic organs, so he could survive some heavy bleeding for a while.
Firstly, great breakdown on Adam. Didn't even know a majority of this information was even a thing. Secondly, I find it suuuper interesting that Johnny made himself out to be the hero of the op when in reality he got killed in the blink of an eye by Smasher, though I wonder, how did they get his body and gun before the building exploded? Unless he survived being cut in half, bleeding out, AND the multi-story fall + initial explosion, someone had to have for some reason been scooping him up.
Adam possibly being alive to terrorize Night City more isn't bad. It's great. He's the only BBEG that is compelling in the lore honestly. You don't really care when you kick in a gang hideout and shoot every murderer and r4pist you see. It's dull. Even if they're named with a bounty sheet to show you what they did and a summary of who they were, they're still just window dressing. Afterthoughts. Adam Smasher was and still is an awesome villain that is unapologetically bad and that's what makes him so fun to go up against. I sure hope he's still around in later iterations of Cyberpunk or it'll very likely be a dull game!
Loving the Cyberpunk lore content! No one else is really doing it on this level. I would include a spoilers tag when you start talking about story points of the game, I knows it's been 3 years but I still haven't beaten it. 😅 Had to stop at the end of the enter V section as I got to the no return point but again never did it. Was waiting for this newest update and just restarted a couple weeks ago.
@@cutoffsparty TBF someone that hasn't beaten the game may be interested in Adam after seeing him during The Heist and want to know more about how he became a full cyborg, not expecting him to play a pivotal role in the different endings.
Adam Smasher uses a modified version of the full body conversion named "Dragoon" by the German megacorp IEC in 2077. He used the Samson and the Gemini only in the years before. The Dragoon is by far the most advanced and most powerful body conversion that exists in all of the Cyberpunk lore and all attempts of Arasaka to copy it, failed. In the end Adam Smasher was still able to get a IEC Dragoon and heavily modified it - so it's a bit less powerful than the original one, but fits his needs better. I made btw. a mod for the game, you can find it on Nexus - it's called "Dragoon-SA" and works for all Male Vs.
I think the reality of the NC holocaust regarding Johnny probably had him surviving getting initial shot (something we didn't see in 2077), and ending up limping to the roof where he collapses. That's my head canon that gets the two roughly meshing together.
Something I read in from a comment in a different video, is that it's actually really narratively satisfying if V spares Adam after beating him. Adam Smasher is a ruthless killer, convinced might is the only thing that makes right, and sees mercy as nothing but stupid human weakness. From his point of view, his own ruthlessness is the only way he's managed to rise to his current position. It's what makes him a legend, and what makes him who he is. Not only this, but Adam is convinced it's the only thing that gets anyone ahead in life. If he's spared by V, he owes his life and continued existence to V's mercy and that's a crack in his psyche he will never recover from. It would be the first time in his whole life that someone had him dead to rights, and just turned around and walked away without manipulating him or demanding anything from him. He owes V a debt he can't even comprehend repaying. That's a fundamental break in his worldview that is irreconcilable with what he's done. It's a worse punishment than killing him. I'd fully expect Smasher to try and kill himself, but Arasaka wouldn't let that happen- let such a valuable asset go to waste. He gets to stick around as the menace he always was, but he's fundamentally changed; a broken man. If I were the lead writer, I would make this the canon path. I would make even mentioning V's name in his presence a death sentence for anyone dumb enough to try. V lives in his head rent free now, if Adam still lives.
Wait so can someone explain something from the timeline for me? In the game, we see Smasher in Johnny's memory and at that time he seemed to have more original body parts, wearing clothes and boots, his entire face. Was he blown up and turned cyborg after that time? But why was he working for Arasaka pre-accident? Was he in some sort of human looking cyborg suit? Or are there just conflicting timelines between the game and original source material?
That actually occurred after the accident. The accident occurred prior to 2020, but the AHQ Disaster was in 2023. The reason Adam looks a bit different is likely to simply switch cyberbodies over the years, as we know he wasn't rocking the same frame all the time at that point, even though by 2077 the does generally just use the one body. Hope that helps!
@@everberon awesome thank you for the insight. I guess I didn't realize before this video that human looking cyber bodies were a thing, I'm just used to all the mechanical looking upgrades
He went psycho years ago and is now filled with constant rage and the urge to brutally slaughter all before him. But he was always like that, so no-one really noticed.
yes Silverhands Memories are a mess. in the game 1st Adam Smasher Shoots off Silverhands mechanical arm.. yet in his final moment when they activate Soulkiller its back on. and i dont think the meds would do that in this case.
I always assumed it was given that Johnny's engram was firstly not fully intacted due to him being dead when Spider applied Soul killer on him and it then altered by Arasaka..
Adam Smasher is probably the most awesome antagonist ever! Like when you're about to kill him and V is going off about how this is for Johnny Yada Yada he's just like "wtf are you talking about???" LOL same when david was about kill Faraday and he tell smasher to kill david, smasher is just "wtf are you???" Lmao loved that
I remember thinking smasher was a bit underwhelming as a boss fight considering his reputation, his deeds, and his terrifying appearance in Edgerunners. Though that could have been due to the nature of leveling in video games. From what some friends who are more familiar with the tabletop version have told me, Adam smasher is the tarrasqe of night city. The ultimate enemy you throw at your players when you either need a final boss, or to put them in their place.
Cool video! And as for the Night city holocaust, option C is also on the table. Johnny's time spent as an engram has made him embellish memories he had. That is to say Johnny is just an unreliable narrator Alt even hinted at that when you speak with her. As she proclaims the memories of Johnny losing Alt are just what he has repeated over and over in his mind before coming to this conclusion of events. I still found it very unfortunate how it was showcased though, especially for poor Shaitan. In the game he goes out in such an undeserving manner, dude's a full combat borg! He's no Adam Smasher but he was one of the most deadly pro merc's in terms of cyberware as well! Hell he even held off Adam Smasher for a while because he's a full combat borg! I really hope this or the other theories are the cause we see things unfold so differently. But it still sucks ... especially because it meant we still didn't get to see Morgan Blackhand which I found very very unfortunate.
15:00 so it’s my theory that what we are actually seeing her is Morgan blackhands memories now a really good question is how the Software that thinks it’s Johnny came to have them, if I have to guess ied say somehow blackhand survived the nuke going off under him 🤯 and the soulkilled Johnny was used as part of Morgan’s interrogation/torture and there was bleedover, this examples away stuff we know Morgan did that Johnny thinks and remembers doing, johnnys mind had holes been dead and cut in half with a Machine gun will do that to you so it reached out for stuff that looked familiar to fill in the blanks.
I guess going full borg does put you at a disadvantage when going up against a netrunner with System Collapse and smart Assault Rifles and Submachine guns who also recovers RAM with crit hits
I bought Cyberpunk 2077 back in December 2022 on sale. Played a little bit then saw the anime on Netflix. And after Rebecca’s “meeting” with Adam Smasher I gotta say… his names a little on the nose.
Glad ive stumbled over your channel I love the 2077 game and enjoy your commentary over the events they allow me to have a more digestible way to learn the lore of the game without shuffling thru different tabs in game so thanks for the vids man I love em ❤
What I absolutely love about Cyberpunk and Adam Smasher is the cycle of death that comes with being a borged up dude like him. Sure he gets people like David thinking that he’s special and gets heavily chromed up but is ultimately killed with no remorse or care by Smasher. The exact opposite happens with V. You’re told throughout the whole game what a legend Adam Smasher is and how terrible and scary he is. But then ultimately when V fights him in most cases people find the boss fight to be pretty easy. And if you’re Max level it almost definitely will be very easy. This makes you realize just how much of a legend V has become that you have essentially taken the position of Adam Smasher when he killed David. Except now Adam is the one in David’s position. I guess V did have some fun after all. 😈
Not sure if somebody's already pointed this out, but here goes: If you don't do the heist right away, grind out Regina's gigs for money, or just mod it in, and get a threat detector, you'll see from the moment Adam Smasher enters the penthouse with Yorinobu, he is red on the scanner. He knows you're there the entire time.
Yeah, it's an interesting touch, though it may be that Cyberpunk 2077 implements a but of code where bosses always know where players are when they are loaded in, and the logic was simply never removed from this scene.
@@everberon Apparently, this makes sense lorewise. There's a short explaining this whole thing, and also takes note of the fact that he does *not* stop staring into your soul until he leaves the penthouse. Now it *might* be just code they never pulled, but according to the comments there, this makes sense from a lore perspective, because his optics have some Super-man X-Ray vision mode.
Imagine smasher walking up to Johnny before shooting him and saying in his Elvis accent “ahoo ha hoo, you been dealt a baaaaaaaaaad hand joahnney boah”
I really doubt that Arasaka stays prominent after 2077. Only the Devil ending will ensure Arasaka's continued legacy. Any other ending makes sure that Yorinobu (intentionally) runs Arasaka into the ground. This is confirmed in the Phantom Libety ending where after a 2 year time skip Arasaka is completely gone from NC.
One thing i can say, is if Smasher was hit with 2 RPG's, they wouldnt have exploded. They would've gone through him, flesh isnt dense enough to set off those anti-tank rounds designed to hit plate armor. Either way, still not much left afterwards🤢
So I believe that both Morgan Blackhand and Johnny got soulkilled. That they were spliced together into a cohesive memory. It kinda adds up to me anyway. Also adds up in one of the flashbacks
