Nightmare on Elm Street 4 documentary (1988) 

+nils920 And were more inventive ay

+nils920 this was when Americans were just realizing that crack is whack.

nils920 realer*

It's incredible now to look back at what guys like Rick Baker, Tom Savini, Greg Nicotero, et al did back then. Crazy inventive, time consuming stuff that they often had to film in one shot. And all of it is better than the computer stuff today.

@@D-Fens_1632 Remember the stop motion puppet scene in Dream Warriors ?! They could do it today with cgi but it wouldn’t have that strange nightmare feel about it

***** Me to! It looks like so much fun back then.

Surge_Cess i remember watching for the 1st time on vhs

***** I saw it in a theater in the 80s. My father took me when I was 8. It scared the living piss out of me..... but the wizard of oz scared me worse.... does that make sense?

I had the whole dvd collection when i was eight ;0

I wanna be 12 years old in 1980 so i grow up as a teen throughout the 80s.

james dean how's Hell this time of year?

Spellbinder Such a gentleman.

carloscream thank you

Lol

I agree. kincaid had me cracking up.

I think they did a good job. The point was pushing the 3 returning characters out of the movie so Freddy can just go after the new kids. And instead of giving them like 5 minutes, they gave them a good amount of time to show their personalities for a while, and then be killed off.

I know, they should've had them at least up to the middle of the movie.

They did a decent job. But would have liked to see at least one of them last till the end of the movie

Christian Charles

Same

I think it's dream warriors

Jada Torres Mine too.

Part 2 was my favourite think the less they showed freddys face in the light the more creepy it was

poppa penguin hated that one

cache mickle same haha (I love your profile btw)

Maybe he was interviewed whilst he was on set

You can say that! '80s rule, CGI sucks!

+Whatever Happened To Fun? cgi definitely sucks.

Just check E.T. from 1982 and Jumanji from 1995. I love both movies, they're among my favorites but you can clearly see that a lot of CGI effects of Jumanji are crappy as hell.

The Nightmare on Elmstreet remake is strong evidence of how CGI is ruining film.

The movie industry uses CGI as a crutch when it’s supposed to be used more for touchup purposes, and the overuse of cgi reflects just how lazy Hollywood has become, and the lack of effort shows there is no passion that goes into making a movie…

Same and I also have problems with sequels that doesn't relate to the prequels

I liked Tuesday better. Patricia always sounded like she was stoned when she did her lines

@@sliat1981 Me too, I thought Tuesday did a better job. Then again, I saw this movie before part 3. So Tuesday is the OG Kristen to me.

@@sliat1981 thts because Patricias character was sleep deprived

@@mikecoulter6350 lol she always sounds like that 🤣

I did the same thing when I was 8, not sure what network though. My parents hated it and saw it as "garbage" and taped over it. Haven't seen this since.

+Alec Scheller Pt 5 definitely could have used another six months of development to polish the script and story and an extra few months of filming time so they could try some of the more unique and creative ideas they originally had for it, had they done that it would have been a fitting epilogue to the series and pt 6 most likely wouldn't have been made. There are two key events that more or less forced New Line into realizing that the popularity of the slasher genre was starting to wane: Friday the 13th PT: VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan bombed at the box office causing paramount to cease pre-production on pt 9 and cancel the project before indefinitely shelving the series (which would lead to the sale of its rights to New Line a few years later), The newest Halloween movie (pt 6) went straight to video because the distributors couldn't get it into theaters. After those events happened they knew that if they waited too long they might risk having ANOES 5 be a total bomb despite it being a well put together and well written movie with a good story great effects and good acting if they gave it an extra six months of development and filming time then released it in late summer or early fall of 1990 (when it would have been competing with the oscar winning Misery) so they rushed the production schedule to ensure that they didn't miss the window in which they could be sure it would make money.

+Hammerhead547 Well said my friend. I think a October or the February (capitalize on the misery Oscar buzz for horror) release date would have worked. As for the poor showing for Halloween and F13 part 8 while i have no doubt it effected the decision to rush the film it shouldn't have. New Line missed a huge opportunity to stop the free fall of the Slasher genre and go into buying the F13 series with consumer confidence that they can bring new life into later sequel entries by taking the time to make Dream Child good. Ill always wonder what could have been if late 80s horror was treated with care instead of as a cash grab.

Alec Scheller According to the Never Sleep Again documentary they had all sorts of really cool ideas for dream child that would have made it a fantastic movie if they'd had the time to make the movie the way it should have been made. Unfortunately it was one of those cases where they had advertising posters made and a predetermined release date for it before they even had a first draft script done so most of the cool ideas were either toned down or taken out to allow for the rushed production schedule. Even the director (who was interviewed on the Never Sleep Again documentary) said that if they'd had more time and a finalized script (they were working from a script that was literally being filmed as pages were being written) iit would have allowed him to really pursue his vision for what the film could have been the final product could have easily been the best film in the series, He also said that because they were so tightly scheduled he didn't even have time to argue with the mpaa over the cuts they demanded to be made to the movie which is why the kills were so neutered. It would have been a smart idea for New Line to put the nightmare series on a bi-yearly release schedule (one every other halloween) so they could give each production team enough time to perfect every element of the production so that they could return the best possible finished product. Doing so would have also allowed audiences time to forget about freddy for a little while thus making the next movie a treat to see and ensuring the highest possible return on investment (sort of like they do with the James Bond Movies). Just imagine what Renny Harlin could have done with PT 4 with a year to perfect the script six months to shoot the film and five or six months of post production, it could have been a major blockbuster that could have creamed the competition and been the first slasher movie to be nominated for an oscar or golden globe..

+Hammerhead547 I love that documentary glad I'm not the only one to have seen it. However with Renny Harlin was in the perfect spot as a young director he needed a certain degree of production constraint because of his outlandish ideas. Though that is the perfect series for those ideas to come to fruition without limits on Renny's direction I doubt that movie remains comprehensible, just look at what he did to Deep Blue Sea. As for Oscar talk it will never happen for a pure Slasher like aNoES because of the people who vote. SFX is the only possible chance for them and regardless of what Renny could have would have and did do with the Fx I doubt it would have been able to overcome Who Framed Rodger Rabbit who won and Die Hard. Their best chance for a nomination in my mind was what could have been if they gave part 5 a chance. Watching what could have been in that documentary took dream child from one of my worst in the series to one of the better ones. Btw how would you rank the aNoES movies worst to first?

Yeah Nightmare 3,4, and 5 came out in 87,88, and 89. Overkill and they got worse and worse.

So true, and it still terrifies me. I was naughty and watched it with my mates at 13, then I watched all the films at 17, didn't sleep for four nights and days and even now at 46 it still gives me chills. mainly cos I have really weird dreams and I can make myself wake up when having nightmares

Craven

Surge_Cess Like 10-15 minutes actually:(:P

Yeah how the fuck do the dream warriors get killed so fuckin quick in the 4th one??!! FUCK!!

Matthew Davis Right

FO REAL!!!

Surge-Alvez freddy killed them before bringing new kids in his world using kristen.... he was probably going to kill alice before kristen.... he didnt expect alice to be the dream master....

yes

Exactly, I was disappointed they were killed off right away. :(

I didn't like Nancy killed off. I had to deal with that, so will you

That's right.

***** You took the words right out of my mind Scene68.

Scene68 freddy only asked kristen to bring alice... new "kids" cause they were the last elm street kids .... he finished what he started before killing new "meat" ;)

Well I'm glad you appreciate Freddy

Cute but just and fyi., his sweater is dark green and red, no black.

I disagree. Three was. Four was like, "What's the point?" nothing can beat One, though.

+T James thank you! the 4th one has no point. it's one visually cool set piece to the next with nothing to say. My favorites are 1,3,7 "wes cravens new nightmare". whats yours?

+Ejmin Khosrovian 1,2 and 3 Sadly, part 4 was my first time getting to see them in the theater, but at least i saw one in a theater :D saw New Nightmare in the theater too

+T James I disagree. 3 was really corny

Part 2,5 and 6 r awful and the worst in the series. 1,3 and 4 r my favorites. Visually 3 is the best.

Most of them still looking good later into their 50's.!

milster better than that fat lipped talentless actress they used

Some horror these days has some really cool camera movements, but when it’s shot in 4K UHD it’s to clean to feel like horror

I agree, I mean don’t get me wrong CGI can be useful for touch ups on practical fx or for Superhero movies today, but the overuse of it today really shows a lack of passion and huge amount of laziness that goes into making movies.

​@@billysixx2910Yap! CGI is used in movies since the '80s, and used as a tool is great. The problem is, as you said, the overuse, the overdose that makes me sick. As far I am concerned the superhero movies are just a bunch of videogame cutscenes with the heads of famous actors.... Since they need such amount of FX I would have preferred some animated movies and I mean the real ones, not the CGI cold roaches that Dreamworks and Pixar are vomitatin' on screens. Check the best superhero movie ever: Batman - Mask Of The Phantasm (since it's from 1993 and not the '80s, they can't accuse me of nostalgia)

@@WhateverHappenedToFun I love Mask of the Phantasm, I haven’t watch it in a hot minute but need to see if it’s on HBO max cuz I know the Animated series is.

That is sweet. 🙏🏼❤️ Ken Sagoes is awesome 🏋🏿‍♂️💪🏿 God bless

To me part 1 and 2 are still scary and stand the test of time. Of course it can't be as scary as it was when it came out because it was fresh nothing was like it at the time. But it has more going for it than many of these horror movies today. And he was based on a real person.

The two major icons of the 1980s were Freddy and Hulk Hogan. Hard for people who weren’t alive at the time to understand how popular those figures were.

@@harveydodd8803 Don't forget Mr. T. He was helluva tough. 😎

True. I still loved Jackie Earle Haley as Freddy. He reminded me how sinister the character was like in parts 1 and 2 before they started turning Englund into a comedian.

My dad never used to let me watch behind the scenes of movies because it ruined the magic for him , for me it was the opposite

Forgettable? Are you serious. Part 3 was an excellent film but it’s pacing was off, it wasn’t that scary and it tended to plod along at certain moments. Part 4 was fast paced and a genuinely fun movie with very memorable one-liners and the greatest effects in the franchise.

The little stop motion puppet scene and using the kid as a puppet is burned into my brain As well as the scene where Freddy force feeds a girl

This was my fav by far. Definitely not forgettable.

not for me. Freddy will always scare the shit outta me. lol

Why?

@@camilajennifer4818 because it was awful

@@camilajennifer4818 Because it made her look unattractive.

***** yes... lol... jk... it's clever but slow & the kills are ehh... Wes Craven perfected that "we're aware of ourselves" concept two years later with Scream

I agree with 1&3 but 7 is my favorite

I agree part 4 is the weakest out of the three I mentioned but there's a nice cohesiveness to them.. part 7 is clever but the pacing & the kills is lackluster to me personally

***** Yeah Part 2 had some solid kills... I just like the idea of the 5 year follow up with Nancy after the first film and how she passes the torch to Kristen in the 3rd only to have Kristen pass it to Alice... it flows nicely.. doubt it was intentional but I also like how the three heroines goes from a brunette to a blonde to a redhead lol

I agree mate, and new nightmare ties it all of in a red and green striped bow 🎀

I actually didn't care that they replaced her. Patricia Arquette was ok, nothing special

don levine Not really......., there mediocre at best.

+don levine Rosanna has better ones

Lol, her real name is Melody Knight, I don't know why she didn't keep that, I think it sounds better to be honest.

Who's on first

Kristen was the last of the elm street children, for Freddy to countuine killing he needed Kristen to do what she did to use Alice to get new kids!! They had to die

Foof y sadly him and Alice never had a scene with Alice.

Jennifer Ruel Mine too.

@@csic123 I never hear that Chris no one agrees with me, lol so thanx for agreeing !

@@jenniferruel1911 You're welcome, Jennifer. I was so addicted to the fourth one. IMO it was the best one of the franchise.

@@csic123 I AGRRE

@@jenniferruel1911 I like the person who played Alice in the fourth one.

Cesium Bob oh well the killed off Nancy. Characters die, get over it

@@sliat1981 Maybe characters don't need to die?

Nick B yeah, he had to die for the plot which involved Freddy going after new victims

@@sliat1981 They could've done it a different way.

Nick B no, what would they have done? Pump out more movies where he keeps surviving and no one can die? It was absolutely essential that he died

Sorry to hear about your Dad and don't worry maybe you thanked him back then? it doesn't need to be years after the fact.