[Poem English translation:] "I still dream every night Of them wolves, them mustangs, those endless prairies The restless winds over mountaintops The unspoilt frontier of my kith n'kin The hallowed land of the Great Spirit I still believe In every night In every day I am like the buffaloes And you like the wolves that make me stronger We never owed you anything Our only debt is one life for our Mother It was a good day to chant this song For Her Our spirit was here long before you Long before us And long will it be after your pride brings you to your end "
Even if most people now totally love Floor, never forget that Tarja was the one who made all us old Nightwish fans fall in love with that band. You should also really listen to "Walking in the air" from the Wishes to Eternity concert, great ballad and it has never been performed with Floor.
The controversy around John Two Hawks doesn't change the sentiment or the importance of the message and I would think that someone from the Lakota should approach Nightwish and help them to reconcile with this piece of music as for me I would think anything that promotes the image of a minority in a positive way can only be a good thing! Nightwish doing Nightwish things!
Tuomas read a book and again made a masterpiece. Now he respects and raises a topic which is often forgotten. There is a "trail of tears" in reality. White color is important for the Native Americans and that detail is not by accident in the dress and mic of Tarja. Check the poem in the end and get the meaning of it too. By the way...the word "ONCE" is in every song of the album Once songs.
Wow, Tarja... you can say what you want, Floor is an amazing singer and does a great job... but... Tarja! It was a great time, which will always be in my heart!
@@alexr8817 Indeed he did (the carpenter and beauty and the beast specifically). Then he would ask his best friend to help out (Tony Kakko) Then Marco happened in late 2001 and the rest is history. 🤘
@@acouplegeeks I'd bet money that if you got 100 random people from the U.S. together age 18-35 and showed them a world map and told them to point to the U.S. half or better could not do it. The Government has dumbed people down so much so they can have better control of everyone and so we all won't even be smart enough to know when we are getting screwed over by them. And it's totally worked too. Almost every day I see someone or hear someone talking and I'm just floored how friggin' dumb they are.
Creek Mary's Blood refers to one of the books by Dorris Alexander "Dee" Brown who was an American novelist and historian. Much of his historical work, as well as his novels, deals with facets of the history of Wild West colonization, such as the Indian Wars, the Trail of Tears, the American Civil War, and railroad construction. Maybe more people should read his books to know their history.
@@Gideon9810 And don't let us start about showing where country other then the US are located, i guess most americans don't even now that Finnland exists and maybe only ask in what state it is located. I mean there are reasons that americans always complain that there is no good music anymore these days, while we from Europe just scratch our head and have no clue what they are talking about since we have soo many great bands here. It sounds weird but i have the feeling at least music wise Covid has lead the americans to less isolation than before since alot finally started to realize, thanks to RU-vid, that there is actually a world outside their country.
@@shspurs1342 a drum pirate/ninja, a Viking/warrior, a hobbit/elf, a poet/minstrel/Jack Sparrow type keyboard pirate... and an siren ice queen, replaced by witch princess, replaced by a Valkyrie.
Then you add a multi instrumental wizard; not sure what Kai is... kinda has that wandering mountain tracker look to him, or possibly a random drunken villager in disguise.
It’s indeed a powerful song and I think they were brave to dare to discuss such a heavy message about the dark part of the colonial era from Northern America. Creek Mary's Blood refers to one of the books by Dorris Alexander "Dee" Brown who was an American novelist and historian. Much of his historical work, as well as his novels, deals with facets of the history of Wild West colonization, such as the Indian Wars, the Trail of Tears, the American Civil War, and railroad construction. Maybe I'm paranoid, but every song on 'End of an Era' concert seems to have a double bottom. All things considered from the situation that Tarja is fired at the end of this concert, suggests that the whole set list is one big reference to sending her away. As if it was a punched-out card, this number too. It seems implicit to say that Nightwish as a band are the natives and Tarja who thought she could overcome them. But even though it may seem different now, Nightwish will eventually triumph in spite of all the pain and tears it will cost them.
The song that will be forever blacklisted from the Nightwish discography Long story short, John Two Hawks is a fraud. I still enjoy this song for what it is though. I believe this was the only time on the once upon a tour that this song was actually played along with over the hills. This song did get played however with Anette, when she came out dressed as a Native American princess in 2007/2008. That was the last time this song was ever played, From memory. It definitely has never been played with (Or will it ever be as mentioned above) Floor. The song itself is based off of the book by Dee Brown of the same name.
He apparently does have some native american heritage; he isn't some white dude whose white parents or grandparents came over from europe etc. And the words he used in CMB are real and legit words, not some "gibberish he made up" as some have described it. He did translate and in some areas adapt Tuomas's poem to Lakotan to match the original meaning as closely as possible. BUT this is where it gets dicey. While correct, there are apparently a few grammatical issues in the way he translated to Lakotan. But the bigger issue is he has never (to my knowledge) been enrolled in a tribe which is required if you need to be considered as a "real" native American. So while he may have native american heritage and he genuinely considers himself part of the community, by the letter of the law he cannot be considered native american.
@@strogaa Interesting, I basically was trying to memorise the whole set list because I just remember when comparing, that the Hartwall Areena consisted of an unusual setlist in 2005. Good to know though, thank you for the correction.
Amazing song Guys ! And i was born in Salt Lake City so in an area not far from the tipical Indian's ancient areas (anyway well estabilished all over the States) ! Great performance and how the man (pardon i don't recognize him) impersonates the Indian ; from my ignorant perspective , is interesting . 4'40" It starts the timing bass drum ! 1'30" I feel you are deep persons i would be happy to learn from you and to give to you if i would be able 👆 . All the instrumentals like flutes keys orchestration are very efficient well done and i like the mood given to the song . Around 5'00" Jon is slaying is comment section eheh till almost over 5'30" . 5'35" Yes Travis the White on Woman gives always a special vibe ! Like on Cristina during Heaven'S ... 5'39" It's true Tarjia looks good Suzi but you alsooo and you Trio rock
I just read the book 'Creek Mary's blood'. I just wonder how Tuomas can fit 400+ pages on four minute song, and still catch the same feeling, joy, rage and sorrow in it. Respect!
@@scottmill8832 His true heritage has been disputed a lot. He later confirmed he's not a Native American himself if I'm correct. There's a law against misinterpretation of Natives in the USA. As an actor/act it was great, but needless to say that wasn't true to the idea of the song of course... (the lyrics were technically correct Lakota, but not the grammar and context that's where the debacle started and then they found out the rest)
Initially thought, he's a finnish-like guy dressed in Indian clothes until I was told he ought to be a native American until I was told he's an imposter...
Tuomas was so broken-hearted by this he vowed to never play this song live again. Which is such a shame, since I think it is up there with 'Ghost Love Score' as one of Nightwish's best epics.
Hi guys, love ur NW reactions as always. You should take tme and react to a documentary called: Pls iearn the set list in 48hrs. About when Floor came to be a member of NW. Lot of inside info, like you had on The Planet Hell. Lovo from Sweden, take care and stay safe xx
5:57 Micrphpones.. next time you rect to Epica, look at Simone Joanna Simons her Micstand... in a giant S ... or Delain where Charlotte has hers as an exhaustpipe of a Truck neonlighted
One of u have indian ancestor dna, 'cause 1/3 have it... No matter what you have heard "grin " Song is good, but many would have hoped that a real Lakota would have song it! Tuomas did great lyricks!
why u always turn the valume down we need to hear it loud & sometimes in some of ur music reactions u turn the valume all way down & we can't hear anything just a remainder .
A seperate point about the Native American tribes inside the Confederacy, they also kept slaves. Please do not but into that 19th century myth about the noble savage. They knew what they were doing and are not pure or blameless for their actions anymore than other groups. Also yes this guy is a fraud. Shame that. Beautiful music otherwise.