I'm not comparing Tarja and Floor but this specific song, along with many others, fits way better with Tarja. It was her vocals who hooked me into nightwish back in 2000's
That is just a matter of taste. for me it is the other way. good to have both. i always prefer Floor due to many reasons. No offense to Tarja. Here style is just not my cup of tea. but that is just me. I know all the discussions for a long time. I recognize that she has many fans for good reasons.
Tarja really owns this song. None of the Tarja era songs really sound that good sung by anyone else but this one especially I feel only Tarja can do justice to.
The studio version of Sleeping Sun is what is drilled into my heart. It's Tarja's voice, interpreted by her younger and more inexperienced self. it's my Sleeping Sun, forever...That's what I'd say if we go into nuances. This is a masterpiece that deserves to be heard also as interpreted by Anette. It's brilliant.
I’m glad you finally checked out Tarja! ( FYI, the ‘J’ is pronounced like a ‘Y’). Hers is the voice that hooked me on NW in the first place. I ADORE Floor, but to me some songs will forevermore belong to Tarja. This is one of them. Three I can think of (all live) you should check out are Phantom of the Opera from this same End of an Era show; also Bless The Child also from the same show; and Walking in The Air live (it’s from 2000 or 2001).
The OG. A co founder. Thomas wrote for her voice. His 5th instrument as he said. She can sing non classical. But at that time the goth snark Tolkien Tuomas was in charge. Now NW is more Hans Zimmer and more metal. Tarja (Tar-ya) was orig NW. Floor is current NW. Both do their thing. I was at this concert and I am partial to the Finnish 5. But respect Floor immensely.
Others from Tarja/nightwish to you react: 1. The Siren 2. Beauty of the beast (this is awesome) 3. Passion and the Opera (very pretty) 4. Planet hell 5. Gethsemane 6. Bare Grace Misery
Tarja is great, and many of the early nightwish songs i prefer her.. but this one, I love Floors style for it. I absolutely love Walking in the Air with Tarja.
Great reaction. :) I definitely recommend song "Siren" from the same concert. About Tarja's vocal and classical live performances, yeah, she is classically and operatically trained in german university and after that since today she still training her lyrical vocal, but also some more rock vocal she using in her solo career. She has classical album and performing many classical pieces and opera arias, I recommend "O Mio Babbino Caro" or "Mein Herr Marquis" performed by her or some "Ave Maria", for example Paolo Tosti's, or she have her own classical "Ave Maria" composed by her.
You should check out her version of this song with Steve n Seagulls. They do an upbeat Bluegrass version of the song. You may also want to check out the Beauty and the Beats concert with her and drummer Mike Terrana along with an orchestra. She sings some classical songs, arias, some Zeppelin covers and her own solo music.
I would recommend Swanheart from that Beauty&Beat tour. Unbelievable beautiful rendition together with a symphonic orchestra and choir of that lovely Nightwish ballad. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TvFVdET3ng4.html
Tarja is classicaly trained. She specialized in Lied singing to be more specific, and graduated at the Sibelius Academy in Finland and Hochschule für Musik Karlsruhe, in Germany. That said, when singing metal she was always and trying to find a softspot between the classical technique and a more contemporary sound, but she never had contemporary singing lessons, she was doing the adjustments herself, experimenting and, especially nowadays (this performance is almost 20 years old), I consider her vocals when singing non-classical stuff to be very 'experimental', her classical background shows, but it's not really classical singing and doesn't really sound very contemporary neither. But still she kept developing her classical singing, she still have a coach and she sounds completely different when she's singing actual classical songs and goes full classical on the vocals in concerts like 2013's Beauty and the Beat or 2018's Noche Escandinava. Beauty and the Beat is probably her best live concert ever, not only vocally outstanding but it also showcase her musicality range, as she sang her own solo songs, some Nightwish, some musical and some opera. It is professinally recorded and is most certainly the best concert to start to know her as an artist.
Agree 100%. She said, that with Nightwish, at the end of an era concert she was finally happy with how her voice worked with the metal songs and the band.
Tarja has a beautiful voice, she studied at a university in Germany. I would be interested in an analysis of a newer song of hers (because this video is 19 years old!!) She grew a lot vocally. I recommend shadow play at circus life live show (a completely live show and she plays the piano). But I would also like some analysis of some aria like mein herr Marquis. thank you so much! greetings from Argentina. new subscriber! ah but you also can't miss the phantom of the opera, slaying the dreamer and planet hell from this same show end of an era
Thank you very much! Here is couple of classical examples (by Tarja): Mein Herr Marquis (Strauss) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-761qOzEdl8E.html and O Mio Babbino Caro (Puccini) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4NL6xSHWQv0.html
Mein Herr Marquis is interesting, but some people might be picky with that performance. Tarja does a good job but this piece is written for coloraturas (vocal type), wich are very light, agile and high pitched voices. Tarja is quite the opposite to a coloratura, she is a Lyric Spinto Soprano, tho she can go pretty high, she have a dark, heavy and warmer voice, wich makes it very hard for her to sing a coloratura piece properly. Personaly I love it cause its her voice, but opera people are really meticulous about technique, and tend to be very obnoxious about it. Songs like 'Song to the moon' or 'Vilja Lied' are best suited for her vocal type, she really shines singing these two.
@@Marcusrafaelfet The Big Brain Singer Charlie Collata gave his review as a high male opera tenor and he can and does point out where a judge would deduct points. But overall for a non opera singer he gave her high marks. Its an interpretation and it works. Her solo of Swanheart is heavenly
@@Boa_Omega Swanheart from Beauty and the beat is hands down the best performance of the song to me. And to me it's also her best concert, simply love it, it showcases a vast range of styles, her solo music, some Nightwish, some musical, some opera. I wish she would do something like that more often. I'm so glad she did a professional recording of the concert.
@@nikkinoise1 It is. If it upsets you, complain to Tuomas, not my fault he's been releasing mediocre music non stop. He couldn't write a single fan-favorite, memorable song for his audience since 2005. Nightwish's most popular songs are still The Phantom of the Opera, Nemo and Wishmaster. And their only current live hit is "Ghost Love Score", from Once, lol. Nostalgia act. Marko's song sounds more exciting bestie, it is what it is.
Thank you so much for the reaction. She is a classically trained lyrical soprano. Please do react to Slaying the dreamer and Phantom of the opera from the same end of an era concert, Supremacy from Woodstock 2016 and Mein Herr Marquis from her Beauty & the Beat tour, to hear how versatile she is. Also Pie Jesu live and O`Holy Night music video from her Christmas album last year, Dark Christmas. Absolutely fantastic vocalist. Her voice has this warm, powerful tone that I love so much. You should also check her take on Ave Maria by Paolo Tosti from her 2015 album Ave Maria - En Plein Air, with twelve Ave Maria`s from different composers. The last one on the album she composed herself.
I initially went to the comments to tell you the correct pronouncement of Tarja's name (as if it is spelled Tarya), but I see that someone beat me to it. Marco joined Tarja for some of her shows in Europe and South America. I would so love it if he joined her for US shows. Interesting that you made two different comments comparing this video to others (seeing this song by a different singer, and saying the bridge reminds you of Halo). Of course, in both of those cases, this video preceded the other. Thank you for the link to Nova's page. The little preview for cover to this song sounds great. So does the "Bring me to Life" cover. (I am a sucker for string instruments such as violins / violas / cellos. I previously commented to you how much I like the violin part on the introduction to your videos).
Gracias por reaccionar a Nightwish con Tarja 🤘🏻 Te recomiendo a Tarja como SOLISTA creo su propia banda desde el 2006 un año después de desvincularse de Nightwish con la canción Innocense desde el concierto en vivo Live Circus Life 2022 te va a encantar porque es la versión extendida con despliegues instrumentales exquisitas tiene una orquesta completa en el escenario y los protagonistas de esta canción son las cuerdas y los teclados del piano deberías reaccionar porfavor a Innocense desde Live Circus Life 2022 Aquí te dejo el enlace de Innocense en su versión original extendida desde el Concierto Live Circus Life 2022 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lq-genEQNLA.htmlsi=qxKDDtZxvawRMyI6
You say Tarja’s name perfectly… greetings from Finland 🇫🇮❤ Tarja and Floor singing diffrent style. Floor classic and Tarja opera. Both are professional singers. You can’t compare singers. Very diffrent technique Tarja than Floor.
Wishmaster is a totally Tarja song. More than any other song imho. And there are so many songs which haven't been sung by other 2 ladies, can't even imagine how those would turn out with another perspective singing.
I am glad you enjoyed Tarr-ee-aa's rendition of Sleeping Sun. This is not the origjnal version that she sang as she was unhappy with how it sounded. This version was released on the 5th album Once 2004. You are hearing London's (UK) Symphony and Metro Voices London (UK) who recorded work for the album. They spent big money on the album. Tarja studied Lied singing in Germany which is meant for the stage. A mezzo soprano with a 3.5 octave range. You can hear her warm round chest voice.Even more developed during her solo career. Though in songs like Supremacy a Muse cover she will remind you that shebis very much a soprano. She started singjng at age 4 in church. Joined with fellow co founders Tuomas and Empu in 96. Released Angels fall first in 1997. This was recorded October 21, 2005. Helsinki Finland, Hartwell arena on the last night of the world tour for Once. Kittos= Thank you in Finnish. What she said to the crowd.
‚Sleeping Sun‘ is not on ‚Once‘… It’s only released on ‚Oceanborn‘. Their new label wanted a new version of ‚Sleeping Sun‘ for promotion. Because of that, they did the new music video also.
You should check her singing actual classical songs, like Vilja Lied and/or Pie Jesu. Gorgeous voice. Also Supremacy from Woodstock 2016, a Muse cover. She is amazing. When singing those classical songs, you`ll here her strong, brighter tone and in Supremacy you here her beautiful chest voice. And she is a classically trained lyrical soprano. Her powerful classical voice was the reason Tuomas changed his plans for musical direction and decided to form Nightwish, a symphonic metal band (to mach her voice) instead of experimental acoustic music he had written himself during his time in the Finnish Army. Here are the links: vilja lied ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3groSGNqMBY.html pie jesu ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--b96CGtkgFQ.html supremacy ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e5zEb5xFlIE.html It would be very interesting to here your thoughts about her classical singing.
if you really want hard dark spell-binding Tarja (and Marko too) with Nightwish: (even some rocking on invisible guitar, head windmills, and etc theatrics too) (remember, the concerts/albums/covers must be BEFORE 2006, for Tarja's performances) (not ranked, just listed) 1. Slaying the Dreamer 2. Planet Hell 3. Wishmaster 4. Kinslayer 5. Ghost Love Score 6. The Siren 7. End of All Hope 8. Dead to the World 9. 10th Man Down ---------------- if you do like Tarja with nightwish, here's some good ones: (just make sure the song performances are before 2006, else it's not tarja who is singing) (NOT ranked, just listed) 1. End of an Era (her last concert with nightwish, hard to find good quality and the entire concert, as it gets taken down) 2. Phantom of the Opera (her duet with Marco, really good, both of them together, this song was actually used in the Phantom of the Opera remake movie in 2004) 3. Wishmaster 4. Planet Hell (marco sings in this song as well) 5. End of All Hope 6. Dead Boy's Poem 7. Nemo (watch the official music video and also her live performance of it) 8. Kinslayer 9. she is my sin 10. wish I had an angel 11. slaying the dreamer 12. the siren 13. dead to the world 14. 10th man down 15. walking in the air 16. ghost love score 17. dark chest of wonders 18. bless the child and many more too
ALL hale the REAL TRUE QUEEN 👑 of NIGHTWISH and of ALL FEMALE SYMPHONIC METAL SINGERS!!!, the very beautiful looking and very unique voice of the enchanting TARJA!!!😀👍👍🤘
your videos haven´t been sugested for me... I have to search for you. But I see i came in the right time, I love nightwish and tarja! Sure you will like it. When will you react to Andre matos (bands shaman and angra) from Brasil?
Tarja probably was the first girl, Tuomas had a crush on, since she entered his domain to take music lessons from his grandma. No surprise either that Tarja und Tuomas, along with Emppu, were attending the same school and though Tarja was one class down, they all had Music as their elective subject focus with common events. Before founding Nightwish, Tuomas and Emppu already played in different youth bands. Yet, the shy introvert Tuomas intended to play his own compositions and it took all the encouragement from his friend Emppu, to ask Tarja whether she would join their new project ? 1996 was the birth of Nightwish, who started to record a demo tape and forward it to different record companies. At their very first concerts, Tuomas, Emppu and Tarja were accompanied by their music teacher on drums and the cantoress from of their local church on keyboards, so obviously Tuomas was on strings... For their first tour through Finnland in 1997, two more young locals, Samppa Hirvonen (bass) and Jukka Nevalainen (drums) joined the club, so Tuomas could switch to his beloved keyboards. However, Samppa Hirvonen had already signed up with the Finnish military, so he wasn't able to continue from a certain point, which, understandably, he later regretted immensely, as he owned some vocal prowess, too. Adventage: Marko Hietala. Samppa substitute Sami Vanskä was Nightwish' bassist from 1998 - 2001. In my opinion Tarja Turunen was Tuomas inspiration for writing all those love related songs, which became pretty rare since Tarja left. Instead Tuomas was turning on topics like Circus, Science or Nature. If you read his love songs closely there were a lot of innuendos towards his crush. He was "romatic only on paper" (quote from Devil & Deep Dark Ocean) and wished he "didn't feel for You anymore" (from Dead Boys Poem). What was happening ? Tuomas seemed to never made it out of Tarja's friend-zone and when she met her husband in 2000, whom she married in 2003, Tuomas lyrics have been influenced, e.g in 2004 when writing his hymn for unrequited love. While Floor is singing "Ghost Love Score", you easily forget that these were Tuomas' words, about a love, that never made it into reality and therefore could not be rated, how it would have gone: ..we used to swim the same moonlight waters...a siren from the sea came to me, sang my dreams my longings...my fall will be for you...or...time to never hold our love !!! Just search for: "Nightwish - Two for Tragedy" on RU-vid to find Dany Ela's footage that hits the nail on the head. Marcelo once stated that Tuomas doesn't like him, because he is jealous on him (due to Tarja). Indeed our Latin Lover was extremely jealous, too. Leaving Tarja no more alone with the band, cutting their private talkings and moreover, as her "new manager", insisted that a all business releated stuff shall from now on be only discussed with him. He will tell Tarja the important stuff, later. His announcement, that their Superstar Tarja will leave the band, heading for a solo-career, after the next album, let the band pull the emergency brake... Especially since Floor Jansen entered his domain in 2003, when her band was playing as support band on Nightwish' Europeans tour. Hard to believe, that Tuomas was deaf regarding Floor's capacities back then. Consider also that before Tuomas was replacing their somewhat indifferent bassist Sami Vanskä by Marko Hietala, he learned about Marko on tour, playing bass for their support band! The problem with that faithful soul Floor Jansen was, that she was still occupied by "After Forever", which now was a friends band and they were shrinking back to ask her directly. So the idea was to make a public employment ad. Unfortunately for Tuomas, only Floor's sister Irene Jansen sent an application. Then, since "After Forever" disbanded in 2009, the benevolence towards their second singer Anette Olzon seemed to decrease. When Anette announced her pregnancy, during her second tour with Nightwish and insisted to postpone all forecoming concerts after the Helsinki show in November, there was no holding back. On Sep. 20, 2012, which was the wedding day of sister Irene Jansen, Tuomas made his direct-phone-call to Floor, with only one question left. It needed to be a hefty argument, after Anette was being informed, which let to the "Denver Debacle" or shall we say, "Denver Miracle", on Sept. 28th. 2012. The idea to not overtax Floor and offer her enough preparation time, until the Latin America tour leg started in late November, was bursting like a bubble: "Please learn the setlist in 48 hours" required another phone call...
@@k.l.7788 First of all this is not a scientific study. Even if interviewing Tuomas you will never be sure what men would reveal about their past, esp. if not being proud of it. But here's something to look up. Tuomas said, he was 13, when he first met Tarja. An age, when boys normally start to look different on girls. Despite of being in the same music class, he was "surprised" that Tarja's strong voice doesn't fit with the atmospheric, accoustic-style of camp-fire music, Nightwish' songs ought to be. But instead of shifting to another singer, Tuomas rather changed his composing style, to better fit with Tarja's voice. Tuomas lyrics were full of innuendos to an unnamed crush only during the Tarja era. It is very likely that he experienced that kind of unrequited love at first, before being able to write such gorgeous songs about it. Not only did it change drastically, after Tarja left Nightwish (2007 Dark Passion Play album was still written/heavily influenced by Tarja's era). Moreover you can also notice a changes in his lyrics, after Tarja met her husband in 2000 and again, after she got married in 2003. Tarja's pick couldn't have been more different to him. Instead of an introvert, shy dreamer, who was "romantic only on paper" Tarja chose an outrovert, show-off, businessman, to whom numbers seemed to be more important, than emotions. Or do you realy believe, that Tuomas wrote his musical suicide "Poet & Pendulum" because of "bad press" or rather because of a broken heart, that needs to be adjusted ? Like burying his feelings to have a new start ? Which also meant, leaving the love song themes behind and going for other topics like circus, science, nature instead ? Not to mention his farewell song to Tarja's husband: "Master Passion Greed". Oh yeah, almost forgot Tuomas' passion for classical trained singers. In 2009 Tuomas met another one, named Johanna Kourkela, whom he married in 2014 or 15? Pure coincidence or just the same pattern? And of course: Tarja noticed those innuendo's to that unknown crush of Tuomas, she needed to sing all over again, which drove her a bit crazy at some times, as she confessed in an interview.
@@MacZussie IMO if you cannot present any facts, you are only making assumptions and/or giving your opinion. Let it go and stop spreading misinformation.
@@k.l.7788 On which "facts" do you label my assumptions as misinformation ? They are basing on observations from interviews and lyrics. Probably you had never a closer look to Tuomas' lyrics, esp. the more subtle lines, he was adding on a regular base? Also science works with assumptions. Some become facts, some don't. E.g. Sars-Cov2 looks like a (man-made) bio-weapon, or Sahara dust can spread pathogens of unknown origin.
omg!!! I loved this video!! Can you do a reaction on jhope album coming out in less than 24h? I'd really love go watch you react to it , your vibe ia so lovely *Jhope has collaborated before with j Cole
Funny you say that she has good opera vocal techniques. But when opera singers are reacting to Tarja...its like someone said New York when he meant New Jersey. If you would just have said America or even Missouri, then all would be fine, but once you get close but just not exactly right...people have stuff to say about it. Like Floor Tarja floats from classical techniques into modern techniques and back. The clear distinction is that Tarja's classic is more operatic (loft/dome and vibrato from the start to the end) where Floor has a musical theater style (head voice/mix straight notes with vibrato at the end)
Tarja does have a solid, classical techinque that is perfect for what she is singing, wich is not opera. You can't start talking about conceptions that only aplies to opera when she is not singing opera, and not even trying to sound like one as, in fact, she have said often that she didn't want to sound too classical when singing metal. What people tend to do is take her singing out of context: First that she is not singing opera, and that she is not an opera singer, she studied Lied singing, not opera, wich is similar but not really the same, and she only very casually sings some classical songs and opera, she doesn't do that for a life, it's not the career she choose, so you cannot expect her to sound the same as someone who sings opera for a life. Tarja is a rock/metal singer with a classical background period. Still, she have done great classical concerts like 2018s Noche Escandinava and she sounds amazing for someone who only does that casually.
@@Marcusrafaelfet Yes indeed. There are elements of opera in her voice, but no intention to go full opera and therefor it is not the same and you cannot compare it. She could get closer to opera then most singers, but why would she? She is a Metal singer!
Yo prefiero a Tarja y no solo por gusto personal va más allá de ser una simple vocalista de la banda sino en lo que aportó para la banda gracias a Tarja Nightwish aún es una banda del Rock Metal Sinfónico ya que en sus inicios Nightwish era una banda Acústica Sinfónica Operística no hacían Rock y menos Metal pero con la oscuridad de la voz de Tarja tuvieron que cambiar de género musical así nació Nightwish como una banda del Rock Metal Sinfónico 🤘🏻
Congratulations. Sleeping sun by both Floor AND Tarja. Now try Sleeping sun cover by Andra Ariadna. Just as Wacken 13 GLS drew me to irrevocable love of Floor, Andra's Sleeping Sun brought me to Andradoration. Sound it out. You will enjoy it, possibly more than Tarja's.
i usually prefer Tarja on the older nightwish songs, but this one in particular whenever i hear it i hear Floor. I love both singers, but this song just hits harder for me when Floor sings it. She makes me feel songs.
Yo todo lo contrario la única que me lleva al clímax es la voz clásica de Tarja y al reactor también le gustó y explico perfecto que la voz de clásica de Tarja es gótica cosa divina que hacía a la perfección al fusionar su voz gótica con el Rock Metal por eso no me agrada la voz de Floor porque es muy suave para el Rock y su voz gutural no me gusta no se entiende lo que canta prefiero mil veces la voz de Tarja el Ying Yang en una sola voz la claridad y la oscuridad a la vez esa es Tarja la Reina Gótica del Rock Metal Sinfónico Operístico
in OPERA voice, you don't have ANY effort, this was design when microphones didn't exist, and you had to project yours voice, without damage to your vocal cords
Would you react to BABYMETAL? I would suggest recent performances of their songs Road of Resistance, Monochrome, and Megitsune, all from their their PIA Arena 2023 concerts. Road of Resistance: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4XYMvGJy1JI.html Monochrome: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8pvxCzhBsTM.html& Megitsune: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RorkQ79V-68.html Playlist of other recent performances: ru-vid.com/group/PL7Y918oJxXaYGAlhN3DLd5AAoye11F3o4
That's not true. She is singing in the operatic style here, and usually did in her time in Nightwish. But she can sing in more pop-rock styles, just as well as she does in her operatic style. Listen to some of her solo stuff and you'll hear that.
You are ignorant and still have to audacity to comment. At least do your research and you would know that it is easier to sing in your chest voice. Head voice often requires more precise control of the vocal mechanism, including the coordination of airflow, muscle engagement, and resonance placement, especially in higher registers. And transitioning smoothly between chest and head voice without noticeable breaks or shifts can be particularly challenging for singers, and Tarja does it effortlessly. You must be new to Nightwish and I bet all my money that you listened to Ghost Love Score first and fell in love with Floor to the point that you are disrespecting Tarja. If it wasn't for Tarja Nightwish would be an acoustic band doing covers and you would've never heard of Floor. Such an ignorant.
