Nightwish & Tarja “Phantom of the Opera” Vocal Coach REACTS 

She still is !!!!!!!!!!!

best possible singers together😊

Thank you too!

Aha!! “Fan” being short for “fanatic”!! ❤️❤️❤️

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Oh my dear, you have no idea how correct that statement is . Sadly you will find this band is full of them

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Yes, you read me right :) I am a fanatic of the idea that our life would be richer if we knew more about music and art in general, than about weapons and conflicts, for example. I especially appreciated your approach from the perspective of classical music, applied to a cross-genre interpretation. I hope you will continue to explore this new territory.

@@gabriel.bardac Ever the gentleman.

He is the one to drop long knowledge bombs. I don't say Gabriel is correct or incorrect but lots of info.

Personally speaking, I love her!! ❤️🎶

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Me too .... her solo albums are amazing too and her collaboration with Sharon den Adel and Within Temptation was Awesome...... the song was called Paradise ( What about us).... hope you get to listen.

Think I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will disagree. Hahahahaha

@@BangkokVoiceCoach until you meet Floor Jansen from Nightwish 😉🤟🤟🤟

@@ANDZIGCREAM Each to their own 🤣

She is!

❤️

The beauty, the siren, the metal queen ♡ Tarja

Thank you. I find it fascinating. She is the real deal. I’m a big fan now.

That’s an amazing comment!! Thank you SO much. You make me want to keep going! ❤️

It’s a powerful combination. Great to see young metal fans in the audience mouthing the words to Phantom. It reminds of when high octane opera arias are combined with football.

Thank you so much!! That's made my day!!!

Right. It’s definitely a bit more of a strain in G.

In what key do Amira Willighagen sing ? She can sing for hours without healt issues. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1pDcHGFa-A.html

Glad you enjoyed it

Yes it was! 👍👍

I know !!!! Shocking. Literally immediately after this performance.

@@BangkokVoiceCoach I wasn't a fan back then, so I missed all the drama Very sad for the original fans, but they managed to continue making good music and are still filling arenas to this day.

@@dazjackson1972 As far as I'm concerned, it's similar to Metallica's development after the Black Album - they lost hundreds of thousands of fans (me being one of those), but gained millions. Same with Nightwish - when Tarja was fired, they lost a lot of fans (I _liked_ them, but wasn't really a fan), but (leaving out the time with Anette) they gained _so_ many more when Floor joined (me being one again - NW are the first band in over 35 years of loving music whom I actually consider myself a fan of)

Not quite. Hours after. Ah well, all things end badly or they would not end. Who in the middle of successful albums and ongoing tour who is neither suffering mental health or physical health troubles walks away.

Love it!!

Taa rrr ee aa if we want to be true to the Finnish rolled rs. Extend the 1st a sound as well of rolls in the throat. Practice males perfect .

@@Ozzy_2014 Listen to the expert here, not me. I just tried to write it out as I've heard it used on her IG channel. Thanks for the heads up!

I will definitely have to investigate further!!! Thanks for your advise. I was a singer in a group who was replaced - and it can be a rather odd feeling. (Irreplaceable!! Not!!) But I secretly know…!!!

Tarja better than Floor and Henk second tier singer, I´m afraid. But why check this one, antoher dutch, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1pDcHGFa-A.html

Impossible, 🤭

Such a big chcik and still so weak high notes, this is how you do it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1pDcHGFa-A.html

Can you give a link from a live perfomance so we truly can judge him, if not, he is dismissed.

@@johnojvind7641 And who are you?

@@MarielleSweden Ok, so no links, the guy then seems to be nothing more than a studio product, really impressive. For real singers we then can look elsewhere, why not beginn with this pair. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1pDcHGFa-A.html

Marcello stood up for Tarja. Yep that was a problem. What the band wanted, and the label wanted would have destroyed her voice, livelihood and mental health as well as physical health. Since she has only gotten more skilled over the last 18 years with 19 albums to her name so far and 2 more announced she was right to protect her interests. I don't even suggest malice or Ill intent an honest difference of priorities will do it. They see her as a commodity to fame and profits. But it's her life and career. Her responsibility to put herself 1st. And of course her manager and her husband's responsibility. There is such a thing as being overgiving. Of being taken advantage of because you don't like confrontation. Just thoughts to ponder.

Correct, not in the modern sense of the word but I gather the original of the word “fan” is a shortening of “fanatic.” Not relevant now though.

Yes, indeed, but the band fired HER!! Why didn’t she walk away!? I have every sympathy for her. The same crap happened to me, on a much smaller level, and I’ll tell you, band members often have little or no loyalty. There’s just a whole lot of jealousy. 🥹

@@BangkokVoiceCoach She was planning to leave the band after one more album and a tour if I remember correctly, and she informed the band members one or two years in advance. I don't know why they couldn't leave it at that or tell her right then that they don't want to work with her anymore. She needed to rest her voice and that was impossible with their work schedule. Also, they accused her of not wanting to travel with them... She was the only girl among all the men so I think it was logical she didn't want to. She needed her space and privacy. They could've handled that way better. 🤷🏻‍♀ Anyway, thanks for this reaction! I enjoyed your analysis. Keep it up! ✌🏼

@@BangkokVoiceCoach she had agreed to one more album and tour. She planned to leave after that. She was already working on her 1st album a dark Christmas album. As for why she put up with them and also never publicly called them out? Patience of a saint. Far better person than I. Note those 2 songs were not.released until years later. She neither confirms nor denies whom they're about. But it's pretty self evident. Also the incident was apparently in Mexico. Keep in mind all Finnish men have to do national service. And Emppu does karate. Neither stepped up to help. Now yes it is also evident that Tuomas had feelings for his leading lady. To which her not being in love with/married to him was an issue. It is confirmed that Marcello and Tarja called Tuomas to their room for a heart to heart discussion. The 2 principles have said nothing regarding the subject. Marcello put it out in the response to the open letter. No one has confirmed or denied his claims as to the discussion. However speculation is it was a warning to back off. She is married and Tuomas was not welcome. Like I said before 3 sides. None of us were privy to the conversation. But it hardly seems divaish for a married woman not to want to be in a state of undress around her male band mates or to rather have space for her and her husband. One other point you get if others don't. How many famous musicians who abused drugs and alcohol especially blew out their voices for lack of care? Tarja has a good ritual for before and after the show to get ready, then recover from the show taking a few hours. Time she needs privacy for. Sounds reasonable enough. But as you see they were young. Ranging from 26 to 29 then. Maturity and no doubt having wives explaining it to them helped them understand better Tarja's needs. Like I said relations seem to be civil but cool. Though this did not stop Tuomas, the label, Tarja and Tapio Wilska ex NW roadie/guest vocalist and current Finnish metal God from teaming up with the road crew band (Crewwish) to put out a 2nd album during lockdown. Since they could not tour. During this show the opening track is from Once, Dark Chest of Wonders. Tarja and Tapio reunited for the album to sing duet. They did so again for Crewish, also Tuomas did the keyboards. Sent all that via email from respective studios.Crewish called their album Twice. 😁 just the kind of person Tarja is to reach out and help those in need. Tuomas' mother was the village's piano teacher. Taught Tarja as well. And yes she can play and compose as well. When Tuomas' mother passed a few years ago Tarja was 1st to reach out. She lost her own mother in 2002. There is a concert from Germany iirc shortly after, you can see she is fighting tears during the show. Empathy she has tons of. Just goes to show her character. Also I don't know the accuracy but her and Marcello are reported to be in the mid 9 figure range for networth. Sound business investments. Their primary home is in Spain. But they lived in his native Argentina and they now have a home in the British Carribean on Antigua. Her new project 10 years in the making was filmed there with Torsten Stenzel and world class guitarists Like Joe Santorini. So she really has done well for herself. She makes music for passions sake. Her.auto biography is called singing in my blood. Well her little brother Toni and daughter Naomi seem to have it in their blood too, so I believe it.

Where did you get the information? "that their bandmates abuse alcohol" were you on tour with Nightwish? Have you ever seen them drunk? We only know 2 sides, what really happened inside the band we don't know. I know the video of the attack. whether he tried to sexually abuse her we also do not know. There was no information about it. If you have such information, let me know.

​@@floorfan6602 LOL, watch the documentary End of Innocence. They practically swim in alcohol, and they admit to it in the bibliography too. No secret there really. + Marco is an ex-alcoholic.

Thanks!

@@BangkokVoiceCoach keep the good work.

Tour buses are fairly unpleasant places, but “flying in” Woolf bf regarded as very starry behaviour. I was in a band when decisions were made behind my back without my consent and it’s really horrible. I left and, fifteen years later, they are still doing the sand drudgery tours - but driving themselves!!

Well, that was bit of an Tarja sided version of what happened. 😂

Worth noting that some sources also reported there was a long period of tension between Tarja's husband/manager, Marcelo Cabuli, and Tuomas. Cabuli was the person who was encouraging her to go solo originally. From her apparent surprise at being fired the way she was, I'd guess that she didn't really want to leave. Since the two are still married, though, nothing much has been said about that.

@@k.l.7788 Is it? The problem started with Tarja not wanting to be on the bus. The rest was a mere cause and effect. And I even get it, when everybody is loud and having fun (drinking), but you are the one person that has to stay sober and keep your mouth shut, because you need to be singing on stage tomorrow. But THAT comes with her job. If she did not like it she was free to leave. But then I'd say....leave and don't be the 'GHOST LOVE'.

@@cmlemmus494 I too heard about animosity between Tuomas an Marcello, but I wasn't there (Oh, how I would have loved to be there) But in the end, Tarja was an adult who is responsible for her own decisions, no matter who was telling her what to do.

And here we go, 😂

Actually, I'm with Tarja! Promoters making us do old school audience-building across the US and Canada in a minibus is what made me leave my band. It was hard after building up something over six years but I'm glad I did. They replaced me and, guess what, twenty years later they are still building up an audience across US and Canada except even smaller venues!!

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Tarja toured in the US this year. She's amazing with smaller, more intimate venues. What she needed was shorter tours, more time and space to warm up her voice and also to become her own artist. I heard she was sick constantly on tours back then. But she's wonderful with her fans.

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Pretty much the same with Nightwish. The venues aren’t smaller, but they’re not any bigger. Lol

@@BangkokVoiceCoach The problem with the US is that it's so huge. You can tour for years and not been everywhere. It works better in Europe because it's more densely populated. The same number of viewers in less time.

@@Mischnikvideos ala "In the USA 100 years is a long time, in Europe, 100 miles is a long distance"

Because Tarja better soprano and Henk opera-musical singer not metal. This is better ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1pDcHGFa-A.html

Nope, Tarja better soprano, the reactor is an opera singer so he knows. And Henk a second tier opera singer and zero Metal, he should not try imitate something he can´t handle, better be honest to himself by staying to his original musical-opera style.

Sarah was unique. Strange but very distinctive.

@@BangkokVoiceCoach is you mean. She’s still performing.

@@Angelicwings1 I thought she retired.

@@BangkokVoiceCoach nope she’s doing sunset boulevard in Australia soon actually