I just ordered the Peg 41...listening to other reviewers putting down this shoe is quite something. You are the only who seems to rightfully tell people that this shoe makes you work, like you have to do the work you know how an actual daily trainer is supposed to be. I loved the 39 but found the 40 a little clunky ( i know because they are technically the same shoe lol ). Cant wait to try the 41 the all green was sold out 😢
Yup… a trainer should help you train… not do the work for you. Save that extra help for the race shoes. 💯 I noticed the Volt colorway was sold out. Shame, as its fantastic!
There is a guy who have run quite a long 20 miles run in the peg 41 and saying it is not bouncy like his Crocs slide. I just wonder what happen if he had run 20 miles in his Crocs instead 😂. Shoe tubers can get view and interaction these days simply by trashing every thing Nike selling, what a joke!
I feel as most running shoe youtubers have become an hive mind and say the same things about all the shoes. They want shoes to feel different but at the same time they want shoes to be high stack, agressive rocker and so on. If something different comes out it’s casted out as old. They also seem to be unable to review shoes for the average runner, 20-30km a week, isn’t focused on marathon PBs.
Agree...and for the use case you referenced here the Pegasus 41 is an excellent option. As a ShoeTuber...I'll always cover what I'm interested in and what I like to run in, regardless if it's "of the moment" or not. In fact that was one of the reasons I started this channel, to make the content I wanted to see about shoes I found little useful information on.
I can understand why it goes that way though. People running more km are chewing through more shoes, are seeking more variety, and most of those km are an increase in slow miles that are nice on a high stack shoe. When I ran 20km a week I had 1 shoe and event if it had weaknesses I wasn't running enough for it to bother me.
I have had several iterations of the Pegasus over the years and currently enjoy my Peg 40, but it's almost time to replace them. I was looking at the Vomero 17, but you helped me decide to stay with the 41. Just waiting on more exciting colorways. Great in-depth videos!!
The Volt colorway is by far the best. The Cream colorway isn’t bad either…. The others are not very good. There will be a ton of colorways to pick from over the life of this shoe.
You missed the third category of watcher. I have never run in a Peg and while I am slightly paying attention to this version due to the wider mid foot, I am unlikely to buy it. I just enjoy the way you analyze shoes and can pull useful tidbits that can translate to shoes I do run in and also just feel like I learn more about the industry and way shoes are conceptualized.
Hahaha....well thank you. I don't see the type of content I do as "entertainment", there are other creators in our space that do that far better, so I generally expect people to be watching my stuff for a specific reason. Though I'm happy to hear this, it's not the first time....thank you. 🤙🏻
I can't wait to get a pair of SL2s, once they release here in Taiwan and put them through the paces against the Peg41.... I'll be on it as soon as I have a pair.
One more time i have to disagree with you about the P41 being wider. In my US11 the forefoot/toebox area (upper) is tighter. If I compare the insoles and put them one in top of the other the P40 one is larger by a few mm. Even measuring the toebox in the upper there is more volume in the P40. And this does not surprise me because every other year Nike upgrades the foam and make a tighter forefoot area, next year will be a more accommodating/airy upper but they will find a way to alter/change the foam composition. Think VF vs VF2 or 35 Turbo vs Turbo 2 for example or P39/P40 all these models were tighter and less airy in the first generation. I can clearly see the P41 upper being lower on my socks because the big toe area rubs and not in the 40 (in the same size).
You are relentless! As I pointed out in this video I’m confident it’s the same last now. I also pulled out my insoles from my 40s and the 41s and they are identical and completely interchangeable in my US9. The extra width comes from the wider midsole platform and the more accommodating upper. That is VERY noticeable for my foot. Also as I said in one of your other comments… the toebox taper and volume between the 40 and 41 feel the same for me…. In fact I’m getting the exact same wear spot from my big toe I. The exact same place. The only thing o can think of as to why your shoes don’t match mine is scaling to the larger sizes. Possibly Nike changed the dimensions for it in the models or something. I still can’t explain the weight discrepancies…
@@SagasuRunning First ; don’t tell me IAM relentless because I don’t soak all what you are saying or don’t go in you way. Your are too used to people who are hobby joggers like you and trust all. You make some public video on a public medias, at some point relax men soon or late you ill find someone that put you in your place. I was running and studying/measuring running shoes way before you and your channel. You are just one more influencer Nike fanboy, go find a real job. Nike sells without you anyway.
As of August 2024 the 40 is exactly HALF the cost of the 41 😁👍 Did any of the difference still matter?? It's so cheap you could buy 2 for the price of one lol
My main shoe has for some time been an invincible 3, but recently I’ve gotten new love for my Peg 40 I bought last year. Do you recommend buying the Peg 41 as a next shoe? Or what Nike would you recommend for someone searching for more training diversity? Just out of curiosity on your shoe experience and knowledge. Great videos on the Peg 41 btw! Really appreciate the attention to detail and all the insights 🤙👟
When it’s time to replace the Peg40s the 41 will be a great upgrade. The Pegasus Plus and Vomero Plus (Invincible 4) will be the Nike releases to watch this year. Thank you for the kind words on the content. 🤙🏻
Great video. I'm curious as to why you don't put much mileage on your shoes? In the first impression video, I think you said you put 700km across 3 pairs of Peg 40's. Did you feel the shoes were done at that point? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I just retired my own pair of Peg 39's after 1000kms.
I’m happy with 200-250mi on trainers. As soon as a shoe feels flat or feels off in anyway, I retire it. If they are still in ok shape I’ll wear them casually or donate them (I have zero storage space) and if they are trashed they get binned. With the 40 last year… I had the pair you see in the videos with about 175mi, then a black pair that was in a few others with about 200mi and a 3rd pair I lost in a lost bag while traveling they had the rest. I am trying to push a handful so shoes this year to see how far I can run in them, but will be happy with 400-500k. We shall see.
Prior to buying a Peg 40, I tried a 41 at a Nike store. But for me it really lacks cushioning at the forefoot during toe offs. Like my toes are really touching the ground. Same impression my wife said when she tried a 41, she currently has a 40. Not sure if its because the ReactX foam compressed too much on that part or a difference in the rocker. Something I dont feel in the Peg 40.
It was there in the 40, but React foam is firmer so it was less noticeable. I do think Nike shaved off a little bit more foam off the toe. The minimal toe feel is a hallmark of Nike shoes, always has been. They all have it.
Since the Pegasus is too ... uhm, minimalistic for me (yeah yeah everyone, stop the booing) I'm hoping for a signifiicant upgrade of the Vomero. I didnt buy the Vomero 17, because what you have described happened in the Zoom Fly5 for me. I never jumped on the hate train of the Zoom Fly5 till it happened, made the shoe almost unrunable for me. So it would probably happen in the V17 aswell.
I e not seen any leaks about a V18… so not sure if we are getting one this year. There is a Vomero Plus (Invincible 4) and a Vomero Premium (50mm+ stack shoe) making the rounds right now though….
@@SagasuRunning But till they are released, years?... also, I'm crazy. but daily training in 50mm shoe is even for my liking a bit over the top. Well then, Nike wont catch me for another year, since 5years. :/
I need more time in the Peg41 to see, 50k isn't enough. I had good durability with the Peg 39/40...I have a few videos on durability of the last generation for me, from last year.
How is the forefoot volume? I don't have an overly wide forefoot, but usually have issues with lower volume forefoot (forefeet?). That makes it hard for me to go solely based on reviews since most seem to address width only. Thanks for the comparison and discussion!
As a (very) mild supinator... it's close to my heart and often can be the cause of the end of some shoes for me (Like the Vomero 17). Happy to have earned the sub...🤙🏻
It's interesting you say that the last is the same but the midsole is wider, cause for me it's always that I feel my feet kinda going over the edge of the midsol colebto the waist of the show on the medial side, specially in the pegasus.
Same last, very different midsole. I cannot see how anyone's foot would spill over the Peg41 midsole, especially in the forefoot. If your foot does then you REALLY need the wide model.
For the pairs of shoes I own and the weights I have the 41 is the lightest and the 40 was lighter than the 39 for me...many have pointed out this was not the case for them though. 🤷🏼♂️
I have a long video on there here: Big changes for the Nike Running product line in 2024 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CwsDdfZ8L0g.html
I always ran in and loved the Pegasus 34/5/6/7/8/9 but always wanted something just that bit more....I wear Invincible now, but always intrigued to see if the Peg forefoot has been made just that bit better as I need a more responsive shoe... Great video by the way.🤝
If you want more response…. That’s the Peg41. More cushion, not the Peg41. More bouncy ride, the Peg41. Plush ride, Vomero 17. Thank you for the kind words on the content. 🤙🏻
Re: Width ...assume your L&R feet are the same shape? Mine are different girth and size....makes finding a shoe a bit awkward at times. 🫤 I've spent so much time running in the Invincible 3 for all my mileage that I'm used to a very cushioned ride... I think I just need to appreciate that a more responsive shoe is going to feel firmer... I need something for my 5K efforts, intervals and sprints... My favorite Pegasus was probably the 35, although I appreciated that the 36 felt slightly lighter in weight and a bit squidgier if not a bit thinner underfoot.... Lot of reviews of the 35 said it ran warm but I actually found it nicely plush and was probably my favorite Pegasus. But I did really enjoy the 36 and after this I became disillusioned and ended up moving to an invincible eventually after a couple of poor Pegasus models. I love the depth of your analysis, it is really insightful. Thank you for being so analytical!
My right foot is a little smaller than my left, in length and girth (lol!), which is odd because I’m right side dominant. It’s not as much as a half size difference but enough that fit differs where I can notice in some shoes.
I got the Vomero 17 instead. As a retailer, we got the Peg 41 a little earlier. I was trying both back 2 back, and for me the Vomero just blew this shoe out of the water. I really think the Vomero 17 remind me of the absolutely awesome Pegasus 36.
Oddd..the V17 felt nothing like the Peg36, way too much foam underfoot. Plus the whole design flaw with the lateral forefoot...didn't help them with me.
It is, definitely. However, oddly...the Peg41 feels lower to the ground. Not less cushioned or more minimal...just lower to the ground. I'm thinking that a combo of the softer and more flexible ReactX foam combined with the wider flat forefoot contact patch...those give proprioceptive feedback more directly to the foot.
Ya… I’m curious about the durability of the rubber compounds as well. I don’t think it’s the same as what Nike has been using on the Pegs in the past few years… which was just “ok” as far as durability.
4 mm difference in stack height, but only 1mm is foam, the rest is a redesigned outsole. Both are good for casual wear. I would pick the 41 because it looks better IMO.
Sorry I still don’t get the weight aspect. In the first slide, (with official measurements?), peg 40 is lighter, while your measurements make it heavier. Which is the source of the official measurements? How can they be so off? Which was the weight 1 year ago when peg 40 came out?
Both weight specs come from Running Warehouse, as I said. Nike’s actual specs on their product pages are a little heavier than that. I don’t know why the weights are so off…. Again, it’s a mystery right now.
I empathize with your confusion and I've been seeing these inconsistencies guiding the debate all over the tubsphere. I think it's because brand lovers from opposing factions often rely on official specs to ground their arguments, not only for weight, but stack height, offset, and degree of foam softness as well, and the whole thing is just crazy. For instance, we all know 10mm drops have been deemed obsolete in the RU-vid space, but then again, the beloved Puma VN2 was measured at a 10.8 mm drop (35.4/24.6) by RunRepeat, but you're not going to hear a word about it. The Asics Novablast 4 was gauged at 9mm too, although it is widely claimed to be an 8mm, by both Asics and youtubers alike. The NB Rebel forefoot height was measured at a meager 21.5mm on the forefoot (a 2.5mm difference compared to the brand's claims), and the list goes on and on.
Specs are getting more and more frustrating in running shoes as they get more cloak and dagger every year. It’s why rely on RunningWarehouse to at least be consistent across brands. It does sometimes take new models on their site a week or two to get final specs… I guess they happened here.
@@SagasuRunninga lot of third party retailers weigh the products themselves which obviously depends on what size they choose to weigh (manufacturers tend not to specify how they calculate the specs on their website).
RunningWarehouse uses US 9 across all models… which is the industry standard. I don’t ever look at other 3rd party retailers. Though Nike seems to be using US10 now as their spec size…. 🤷🏼♂️
Nope. This Peg has been the first one in a while I haven’t felt the air bag initially. It don’t need a runner two to “settle”…. It just felt good out of the box. I’ll see how long that lasts though…. I’m curious.
@@SagasuRunning thank you. i have fear that the Air can't be a reliable platform because can broke... Maybe it's just me? Can you really notice when is broken?
It can break, deflat and shift in the pocket in the midsole… all of those will cause issues. It happens. I didn’t have it happen at all in the Peg40, one of three Peg39s had an issue, both Peg38s I had had issues and I didn’t have issues with the Peg37 or Peg 36. I did have a Peg35 airbag deflat and then no issues with the Peg34…. Further back than that I don’t remember clearly. Hopefully the Peg41 is durable…. I’m going to put the shoe through its paces to find out. I’ll have more on this soon.
Excellent video and description of the new Pegasus. Not much love in the RU-vid space for the Pegasus shoes, yet out in the athletic field the shoes sure seem to do what their intended purpose is for.
There the thing. The Pegasus is universal, beyond running even. If you go someplace to buy Nikes, 95% chance they will have Pegs. I’d say here in Taiwan behind Dunks and Air Force Ones the next most popular Nike shoe for casual of “athletic” (gym, yoga, etc) are Pegs… The Pegasus is the Swiss Army knife of Nike’s running line… I also think a lot of people think they get points for slamming the Pegasus. Not sure why but I’ve seen that a few times…
Great video man! I’m starting to take running very seriously as I’m an aspiring Navy Seal. Still have a couple of years left until I actually join the military but you can never start training too early.
