Very true! No child left behind? He had all the therapy and attention a kid could get. I was a bad kid and in high school I was suspended many times. I was angry alot for no reason and they diagnosed me bipolar. I never wanted to kill anyone at all.
NC mother was prostitute that was addicted to Crack cocain and abused alcohol all through her pregnancy with NC... no prenatal care lots of Crack cocaine and malt liquor. It's well known and documented that babies exposed to drugs in utero may experience developmental consequences including impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development. Prenatal drug exposure may impact the child's behavior, language, cognition, and achievement long term...
@@christinearianna2424 I knew plenty of rebellious kids. I went through that, too. This Cruz guy here is just pure evil... A doctor can't fix Satan... And trying to pretend like good and evil doesn't exist is ridiculous... They're trying to label evil as mental illness to try to explain it away smh. Nah... He chose to be evil. He worships Satan. Disgusting...
Tbf he's a forensic psychologist so he probably spends considerable periods of time testifying before courts. He knows what's expected of him during testimony
This Doctor gave the best testimony of all the witness combined He painted a clear and detailed picture of who Nikolas is .He has a great memory and is so well spoken.I think his testimony was saved for the end for these reasons.
I take one 54mg conserta pill every day. I have used conserta about 20 years. I was diagnosed with ad/hd to late. If I was diagnosed as a child, my life would be better to day. My school years was like hell. I am now 44 y.old, and life is ok, but not good. My life Improved after medication. I had anxiety, and anger problems. I was lucky to have some friends, but I have never wanted to kill people. 🤔🙂.. Regards from Norway..
Does your ADHD make it hard to focus on reading books or watching television? Hang in there 💪. Unfortunately your teachers or parents were too lazy to observe/notice anything when you were a child. You finally were diagnosed so you have at least a clearer understanding of why you behave a certain way. You definitely have gone through a lot and dealing with your circumstances and still pushing through makes you successful. Not the Big houses and expensive cars. Love and respect to you from USA Brooklyn NY.
Short summary. You can’t fix evil. My heart breaks for the WASTE of resources on this kid, considering all those who might have benefited from those services.
In a way, it's great that he had all this help because this shows that he wasn't ignored by the system and that this behavior was something that was a part of him that matures and even with help he has a very disturbed behavior.
Ok can we stop blaming the school or the teachers? They did everything physically possible. He had all the support any child could hope for. Sounds like he should have been in a different school separate from the average student.
Of course the school and the teachers are going to play dumb. It’s their jobs on the line and there’s evidence to suggest that the school was unsupportive and hostile towards him for minor infractions or trivial issues. That one teacher abused security services on Cruz on a regular basis because of stupid crap like him showing up to school dressed as Spider-Man or for taking one of the teacher’s pencils. Do you think he did this out of the blue and for no reason? No, he did it out of anger and hatred towards Stoneman Douglas High School and their toxic community.
@@michaelricketson1365 You mess with the bull you get the horns. Expecting a victim of bullying and abuse to just accept the unfair treatment is hypocritical. Why should they be allowed to ignore the rules/law yet the victim be accosted when they break the rules/law?
Wow the amount of support he received is mind blowing! BUT instead he made the decision to snuff out the lives of innocent souls! No mercy to this evil thing..
@@codyramos3200 that’s correct! However he had an adoptive family who showed him love and much support regardless his mental health but he made a choice which ended in sad ramifications for his victims families and himself.
I was a senior in high school the day this shooting happened and I remember looking on my phone in class and seeing all the videos and the news and being literally terrified. It is so sad nothing has changed
Yes it seems like everything that could have been done except for a lot of follow-ups had been done it wasn't like there wasn't people that didn't know his behavioral patterns it was just allowed to persist until he exploded.
No excuse! I got diagnosed with bipolar with psychotic features. And multiple personality disorder. I don’t do this. I choose to get help and want to change
@@ksagstertohi6156 Better to have a mental health issue that you acknowledge and try to get help for than be a mean person, making fun of others sharing their experiences. Maybe one day you too can become more self-aware and compassionate to others.
so you are alsob y all meanings a narcissiti anti social disorder ecause if you have bipolar commorbidities with psychosis a dissociative identity you have no choice to developp narcisism and sociopathic features that doesn t mean you willkill at all but you have to be conscious of that many psy are themselves cluster b so they won t diagnose people most of the psy dont know cluster b but if you know aout psychology deeply you kow im right im a phd specialized in traumatic ad dissociative pathologies and cluster b personnality disorders that eplais yoir selective fake empathy
@@JAK0449 No, you are not lol. This is so incredibly incorrect and hard to read it would be embarrassing to anyone with remotely real credentials you claim to have.
His biggest problem was poor early childhood parenting. Had he received the minimum parental interaction that is expected of all parents, he would not have had most of his issues. While his early childhood intellectuall development suffered due to this, he obviously recovered from that way before this incident. His early childhood psychological development, however, remained, the eventual significance of which became hidden due to the wealth of programmatic support he received.
My friend gave me that medication when I was in college so I could focus. It made me edgy and jumpy and it made me sick. I had a close friend who also had bipolar and I had her try the medication and it worked perfectly for her. Also she didn't want to kill anyone
@@christinearianna2424 I’m not saying Concerta is the reason he did what he did. With school shooters it’s a whole host of things that lead them down that path and one of the things these school shooters have in common is they’re put on a cocktail of medications at a very young age.
@@Cgalloway2000 I understand. My daughter is 9 years old and has down syndrome and all of sudden has been acting out and I spoke to my husband and my mom and we really don't want to give her medicine. I just don't know when to give me meds and when not to. She acts out only sometimes. My friends son used to complain all the time about the meds. I remember the doctor always said if it made you jumpy and high you shouldn't take it. If you feel normal take it. I don't know if that's right or not lol
Why do you keep doing this , you want to get away with murder ? You'd only say this if you were a criminal trying to get away with crime because you're black
Around mid teens FAS 50 % become violent. It is almost definite his mothers abuse of drugs and alcohol affected him in the womb thus making him an FAS baby. They do not outgrow this.
During their interview, the doctor played dumb so as to make Him open up more. It worked beautifully. Wonder if the boy has figured out that he got beat by a full grown man?
You know how my son would get attention? By acting bad . I would say ; I Love you , but not your behavior. Love and attention go a long way. I would transition and move to the next subject. Its what you put into it is what you get out. I'll say a pray for Nick. 😞
Whole thing is f** tragedy. His biological mother pollutes his mind while in the womb, with crack & alcohol, according several eyewitness. The kid was broken when he was born. The whole thing is very upsetting. 17 dead students; because a woman couldn't stop her deadly addictions
He wasn't in the EDD the emotional Disturbed classes so he did fall through the testing through your school district... I'm sure they tested him for that also along the way it's part of any psych test to get him evaluated and put on 504 IEP different plants thus the severity and the need for the different types of plans and goals for teachers
Bad behavior problems since kindergarten and continued through all of his school years yet no one or no social services of any kind done anything about it.
@@evanna3950😂😂😂😂 I mean… really. He’s been “intervened” to hell & back. I realize a lot of people are here in the comments section more so than the video.
So this happened because he broke up? He said he wanted to ruin valentines day for everyone because he didnt have a girlfriend? He did all of this because of a break up????????
This makes more sense cause an old friend of mine their biological parents were doing heavy set drugs while they were pregnant with them and she was diagnosed with bipolar and anxiety
Nobody really KNOWS what he’s thinking, or everything he’s experienced. We can call someone evil, but really, that’s an emotional response. Many things we may never know, and doctors aren’t always correct. These are the professional opinions of doctors. I’ve seen a lot of kids like that, who were convicted of things. I’ve personally witnessed teens lie through their teeth, and paint a completely false picture of a peer to authorities, when I saw otherwise first hand. He may have been pushed over the edge. Anyways, hating a person will further nobody. We need to work on forgiveness & healing.
It's very hard to forgive and heal when you are in agony from the loss of your beautiful, innocent, loving child. He knew his actions were wrong, he knew the seriousness of carrying them out. Forgiving is easier said than done, it's just too painful. But yes hopefully in time the families will be able to forgive for their own well being, but it could take decades.
It was one thing to have the desire to do this, however he planned this out, he got a rifle, he was thinking about when the kids would get out of class, how long the police response would be, how he would bring the rifle onto his Uber without arousing suspicion, he thought about how many people he wanted to kill etc.. It's one thing to have thoughts like this, it's another to just succumb to them and act out on them. He should've not committed the shooting and went to someone about this. This is Cruz's fault full stop, he wasn't failed or anything, he failed everyone else.
@@lonelylantern9135 These families will never forgive him. He even said he wanted to make the families suffer. I will never forgive him, and I only followed his case from here. I can't imagine how they feel every moment of everyday
@@mgpw4tn487 well he sure made himself suffer too, what with life in prison. His life is rubbish now. He can't even sleep in a comfortable bed, or listen to song he likes. Stuck in a ugly cell until satan comes calling for his soul.
His entire life improved when getting on them. - His IQ increased - His behavior got better - His academic performance drastically improved. It seemed like it made his life better. I’m so sick of people refusing to give necessary medications to children because of “the evil pharmacy!”
No, it is not. My son started on ADHD meds at 5 years old. It saved his life. Do not associate that (medication at young age) with Cruz obvious evilness.
@@emilydoe4139amen! The doc has highlighted his entire testimony by the improvement in Cruz’s life owing to both medication & supportive services. I don’t understand why so many people in the comments section have concluded that meds are to blame for his shooting spree. Did they even watch the video?
Shut her "defense", if that's what you want call it down. This guy blows all their excuses out the water, even when she questions him directly. I think when the defense found out about this Doctors testimony they when the "rested thier case".
He reminds me on the Jaime (James ) the three year old murdered by two ten year olds Bulger Killers from Liverpool, England..Nicholas is like Jon Venables ..Jon Venables is exactly like Him in everyway ...
Unfortunately the truth is you can try to stop evil.... as you should.... but that it isn't always productive.... and still good will always prevail even if we can't see it....
What strikes me is how he just fell apart right after his mom died. November2017, dad had passed a couple years before that. It took him 3 1/2 months to enact his plan. Mom & Dad no longer present to oversee him. Evil.
My God these mental health workers talk a lot of psychobabble. They have names for all kinds of human conditions and it's all about trying to sound like they really do something when everything in reality they say is subjective. There's no tests to prove anything, it's not like neurology it's not like measuring thyroid levels or blood sugar levels or testosterone levels or using an x-ray or an MRI. even when they see brain activity they don't know whether the brain activity is causing the behavior or the behavioral changes shows activation in certain parts of the brain.
Right - prescribed medication for adhd and this wonderful stimulant akin to meth caused the poor Young child aviation and anxiety. Awful stuff. Psych is mainly complete nonsense and how its a medical speciality is a joke
I live in the UK and have always thought we should have the death penalty here, but listening to this case I would hate to be on this jury. Everything he did points to him getting the death penalty but is that not an easy quick end for him ? Yet the families live in pain, with a constant reminder every valentines day, a day of love and happiness? Perhaps the best course of action is to make him live, make him face the families every dam year of his life, which unless its spent in solitary confinement won't last too long, like here your prisons are full and crimes like this are not forgiven by other criminals. This case has made me re-think my stance on the death penalty except perhaps crimes against children which is what this case falls under, as I said I'd hate to be on this jury. You international USA class 19year olds as children although they can drive at 16 but can't drink till they are 21 you allow guns as part of your self defence stance,.its all very complicated as this is a crime against children by a child.
From what I understand crime has exploded in Britain much of it coming from radicalized Muslims and people basically outlawed from defending themselves. My God Sir Winston Churchill as well as the marquee of Queensbury must be spinning in they're graves over the pussification today of what was once Great Britain.
His entire life improved when getting on them. - His IQ increased - His behavior got better - His academic performance drastically improved. It seemed like it made his life better. It’s changed the lives of many children in need. I’m so sick of people refusing to give necessary medications to children because of “the evil pharmacy!”
@@emilydoe4139 But look at how such people turn out? For some time they may be stabilized, but what are the long term effects? Should Nikolas's outcome be considered a case in point?
@@markemerson8399 Nikolas was a sociopath. His early medications had no bearing on his sociopathy. My life drastically improved when on meds. I have friends who had the same experience. Medicine is not the problem.
@@markemerson8399 I don’t think this is a result of taking the meds. This is a result of his mom dropping the ball and not continuing all medications and therapies as advised by Drs and school officials.
sounds like with a little discipline through ROTC, he was a good student, had a girlfriend and was doing well- but the break up may have spiraled a series of negative emotions from his severe abandonment. I wonder if this got his psychiatrist to rebalance him with SSRIs and sent him on his new journey into madness
I don't think the Army would've been great for him. He probably would've been prone to commit needless acts of violence and kill innocents. He had these recurring thoughts of violence for years.
If schools themselves had that guy's knowledge about behavior, there might be a chance for success for some kids out there. Damn it, but this makes me think about the abortion ban. Because, an unloved or unwanted baby is going to have some issues when growing up. This kid is really fkd up for actually carrying out his plan. Maybe if kids have a stable family, food and a place to live, they will not feel as though they have to act out for live & attention. Let's get our kids some good guidance and love. Now! So this may not happen again. Our President and local governments should make this a priority in the US!
So all of this special classes, counseling had no effect? Maybe rethink the approach and do something more effective with all that time and money!! A lot of other children could have been helped!! Dr doesn't mention why he was held back? A breakup with a girlfriend, like everyone else, and he can't handle it and blames everyone and punches out to the rest of the world?
If this guy has seen hundreds of Aspergers in his lifetime, I will eat a broomstick. That statement was ridiculous. And if he would knew anything about ADHD, he would know, that neither Concerta 54 nor Strattera are proper medications. And that impulsivity is a core syndrom of ADHD.
She's beautiful and she has humanity. She's done small interviews about the trial and she is down to earth and humble 🙏 I can't believe how she never broke down and cried. I've cried listening to all the victims'families.
The fetal alcohol syndrome along with crack cocaine use by the pregnant mother what are those effects. Plus biological family psychological problems clearly he inherited a few. Being adopted and death of adopted parents that causes abandonment issues. Learning disabilities and students will act differently with different teachers even abilities of doing work can be different. He was like a crockpot of disorders. If you hear his biological family history it carried on no matter the environment, caretaker and schooling. They always get on planning and how the killer mind does things on impulse or detailed planning. If you have all those factors in one person how can you compare to others with just FAS. From the time he was a small child he had obsessed thoughts of killing and sexual deviation. Once he was older he had freedom to research his obsessions. I dont think anyone was surprised by what he did. When given the window of opportunity he ran on it to make is plan come true. Very sick individual that should have been not on his own. I dont think people realize a lonely outcast who feels he has no one on his side. Its like he has a companionship with his plan and demented friendships with deviants that he idolizes even if they never met. His mind probably constantly repeated triggers of people in his life that he felt hatred towards. His mind might have grouped them with similar individuals so by killing masses he was killing those individuals. I wonder the psychiatrist's actually unbiased analysis, because you can tell this is towards the prosecutor's side.
With as many testings/evaluations and consultants he’s had, I’m trying to figure out how anyone could feel he didn’t get enough help. I don’t know one person who’s had as much help as he had.
Exactly. I have bipolar disorder which started in my teens. I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 40 years old. I was given antidepressants when I was 24 after I lost a great deal of weight and couldn’t eat or sleep. I had two young children, and worked a full time job. I thought I was losing my mind not knowing what was wrong with me. Antidepressants would help for a period of time and then doctors felt it necessary to wean me off of the meds. Incidents such as this continued until I was diagnosed at 40. I did always seek help up until I was diagnosed. My life was a living hell up until that point. Did I murder any people, or kill my family, or kill animals, or myself for that matter. I would’ve benefitted from the help he had. Even so, I somehow sucked it up, gritted my teeth, cried countless numbers of tears, and am 70 years old now. I do still suffer even with the latest meds, an excellent psychiatrist, and mental health therapist. I don’t feel sorry for the murderer. He is a bad seed that Satan got ahold of early on and sucked any and all goodness out of his soul. I don’t think he needs to spend his life in prison. I think he should be deprived from breathing the same air as we do. I think he must be terminated now using any means necessary.
My youngest son was held back and it set him up for bullying for the rest of his academic years. He’s 28 now but it actually took years of counseling to get him back on track. And special education classes literally ruined my little brothers life. I think that children in full special education classes need their own schools. That way they have a chance to learn among others who have the same issues WITHOUT being made fun of and bullied. When those classes are in the same schools, it’s a perfect breeding ground for pack mentalities. And THAT causes a myriad of problems. I don’t think it makes murderers, but it does cause significant damage. In this case however, he knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences would be. His cruelty to animals tells you all you need to know about him.