Agreed! There's been far too little competition in the integrated grinder semi-automatic market. This will hopefully spur some good innovation and price competition
Been waiting for you to review this machine. Did not need to wait long, thank you! Would be interested so an in-depth comparison with the Barista Touch Impress or comparable!
I care nothing about comparing it with other market leaders but what I do care is a full review of how this unit performs with all its features INCLUDING how it does espresso with extra light to extra dark roasts, the foaming at the different levels including examples of the latte art possible as well as its brewing larger coffees of extralight to extradark😊
At first I thought this was an oracle replacement but it’s more like a not-shitty automatic jack of all trades. The oracle is basically a good espresso machine that does a couple of things automatically ( I have one and I really like it ) but they are different products. It’s also like 2k cheaper so ..
Can’t wait for your full review. Good espresso drinks, less expertise needed, good coffee, and cold brew. I’m sure better could be had by a professional on expensive equipment, but seriously the law of diminishing returns applies. I have a gaggia, a Turin sd40, clever dripper, v60, scale, all the tools. I can never get the consistency I desire. Dialing in is a pain. This machine addresses all those issues and takes lots less space for $500. Are you kidding? Ordering immediately. Everyone needs to be afraid, this will dominate.
I think they should have made this with true Ninja style . It has hidden weapons like a Shuriken in a hidden compartment in case you are making a beverage and are attacked you can strike back with Ninja Force
as a really boogie coffee-snob, I am not mad at what this is bringing to market. Ninja often thinks alot about the features that go into their machines. It has alot of featured for the noob out there....and I MEAN ALOT. And to be fair, for the longest I thought Breville was a cheap expresso maker brand UNTIL ONE DAY, stay stepped their game up years ago and weren't any longer, So I will give Ninja props for making a well built machine for noobs without it being a cheap ass machine. This machine shows how other more expensive brands can add more functionality and tools to their espresso machines for the cost of $1K and more
Glad to see you'll be diving into this one. As an espresso nerd, I'm interested into this one beyond the Breville comparison - it looks like it has the potential to do well as an espresso solution and more ? The grinder appears to be the limiting factor I guess with only 25 steps and a classic 40mm conical burr. Anyways, I hope you'll push it 'beyond' its intended limits with some challenging light roasts :)
@@LifestyleLab_ compare it to the breville that is close to $500. Comparing it to a $1500 machine, to me is pointless. Does anything compare at this price point and do all the different drinks?
I am really interested in this machine and I'm really looking forward to you making a more in-depth video with your true honest opinions of how good it really is as an espresso machine
@LifestyleLab_ definitely want to know how good the grinder really is. can it grind really good espresso. And how good the frother really is. I read that there is a manual mode as well for the frother so would love to see you test that out as well
It's a great form factor for first time home users. Not sure why there aren't more integrated grinder, auto steaming options out there. Glad to see a new contender as well!
Great review of a very different machine that has some compelling features and price point. I hope you get the opportunity to review the new Oracle Jet soon also.
Can you use preground coffee instead of grinding each time, if you wanted to alternate between decaf and not have to go through the whole calibration process each time?
Preground coffee requires what's called a pressurized or "dual wall" filter basket. Because you can't control grind size, you need to rely on the basket itself to build pressure. You would need to buy an aftermarket one of these.
How can you go about making a cup of coffee that is decaf for those weird guests that like decaf. Could you just grind some other beans and put them in the portafilter even if the grind size isn't perfect or would that mess up the config?
You'd need a second grinder. Removing the hopper, clearing out the other beans, then dialing in the decaf would be FAR too much effort for a single drink
Ninja products tend to have higher end features but lower end reliability/durability. I'd say it's a case of getting what you pay for - they will be nice to have and are affordable, as long as you know that you're not buying it for life.
Reviews are about comparison to the rest of the market. The user interface on this is cluttered compared to most due to how many options they're trying to stuff in.
I agree, and also disagree with the in machine tamping. This way you can properly distribute the grounds first, and it's equally clean with the dosing funnel
I think the important thing for me to keep in mind is that this isn't aimed at me, but rather someone new to espresso. If I think about it that way, it seems kind of neat. But I would have a hard time recommending something so automated to a friend who wanted to get into espresso, unless it made earth-shattering shots every time. There's so much potential in a decent grinder and brewer.
I don't think I have seen a single negative review of this machine. I mean integrated scale, cold foam, grinder. I can't justify to even look at other machines.
I think as far as a semi automatic machine goes this looks like the new benchmark. Although it's still just a big lump of landfill that will last a few years before being dumped.
@@ThatIndyFan It's not a joke and you said the word yourself there "appliances" there is nothing "prosumer" about ANYTHING considered an appliance. Those two words should never be held together. prosumer and appliance are at the opposite ends of the spectrum. An appliance is designed to last a little longer than the warranty lasts but is also designed to fail shortly afterwards so that the consumer buys a new one. This is why many consider this approach a "disposable society" a prosumer device is built to last and with repairability in mind. So I think you need to get a better understanding of these two very different dichotomies. Because there is no jokes involved. Just very different business practices.
Better to actually get familiar with the machine and thoroughly test it rather than rush something out. Sorry we're not working as fast as you'd like Joel
@@LifestyleLab_better wait than rush! Take as much time as you need! I am personally very interested to hear your opinion about this vs the Breville/Sage Express Impress
@@LifestyleLab_ thank you for answering. We have a Spinn right now and it tends to feed you grinds when you do anything other than a small drink. Where we keep it, anything other than plumbed is a hassle. Would love to try something that is better designed for the 20oz mug, still does espresso style, but can be plumbed
Coffee will always say to grind at 25 no matter what. I sent mine back. If I set it to 8 oz it would make more. If I set it to 10 I'd get more. The espressos wouldn't give me the correct amount either. Used fresh beans. Maybe I got a dud.
Always best to check your own reality :) As mentioned, this is not a review and was very clearly disclosed, so not sure how any favouritism could be shown. Full objective review to come.
It is not good for the coffee that the grinder is incorporated into the coffee machine. Due to the released heat, the evaporation of the oils from the ground coffee and the aroma from the coffee beans accelerates.
Might (note, *might*)be an issue on a traditional boiler machine, but a thermoblock machine like this won't stay hot enough long enough. Source: I actually put a temp sensor in the hopper for my touch impress to see if their was any weight to this myth.
Piece of plastic/metal junk. Forget design. The grinder isn’t fine enough for decent medium roast beans. The group head doesn’t pre-heat and the shot comes out cool. The milk frother doesn’t even closely make micro foam but is also not hot enough. All this intelligence doesn’t work in the real world unless your competition is the nespresso pod.
